MOVIE REVIEW: Predator: Badlands

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This week, as you've seen, as you clicked on the episode and also probably heard from our little preamble there in the intro this week, Aaron, we are talking about the latest installment in the Predator franchise.

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That's pretty good.

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That's pretty good.

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Predator there.

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Is that a meow?

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What is that?

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Is that a growl?

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What would you call that?

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It's like a growl.

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would say it's like a, mean, if they're having a good time, the predators could be purring.

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A purr, that's what I was actually thinking of.

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uh Have you ever heard the, there's a really fun video essay that I'm spacing of course now, but they basically make the comparison that Dutch in the first movie is basically the first last girl ever.

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All the different members of the squad represent sort of a prototype of a slasher film.

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And Arnold Schwarzenegger is basically just like Neve Campbell from Scream.

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He's the last girl that somehow survives the end of the movie.

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Have you ever made that connection?

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never heard that term before the last girl.

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So I mean, I, again, that might be on me because I don't really dig slasher movies that much.

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Like there's, there's a few far, like I've, didn't watch all of the, know what you did last summers.

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I didn't watch all this.

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What are you waiting for?

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uh love slashers.

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I mean, like I very vividly remember like being so excited about scream when that first came out.

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I remember like dressing up as Ghostface as a young person.

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It's one of the only early costumes that I remember actually like really wanting.

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remember.

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Like it's either plastic or sweat.

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Those are the two smells that mask.

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Exactly.

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Well, again, as we said, we'll be talking about Predator Badlands this week.

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is a huge Predator fan, obviously huge alien, huge, a huge, I'm more of a Predator fan myself.

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As I've said many a times, I feel like this is getting kind of annoying that I have to keep saying this, but I will.

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Predator is my favorite action film of all time.

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It's one of my favorite movies just in general.

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So I have a special attachment to this franchise, but not really Aaron, because I love the first one.

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And then honestly, yeah.

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Not really any of the rest.

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Like I like some of them, but not, I'm not like a ultra fan like you are.

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I don't know why this popped into my head.

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It's really not funny, but it's also slightly hilarious.

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was watching, I think I was doom scrolling the other night and there was uh somebody was dressing up.

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It was like a kid who was dressing up as the predator.

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Like he had just made a predator costume and he goes to his dad and he's like, look dad, I'm a child predator.

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And all you hear is like the dad go, no.

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So Erin, first up this week, have Brainiac has been confirmed as the villain in James Gunn's upcoming Superman, Man of Tomorrow, which is of course the sequel to this year's Superman.

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We both loved it, covered it here on the show.

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So according to the rap, Brainiac will be the main threat in the sequel Superman movie.

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After being in prison at the end of Superman, Lex Luthor, who will reportedly find himself in more gracious confinement while working with Rick Flagg senior must team up with the man of steel when an alien menace arrives.

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before we move on to, guess, who Brainiac is, I think it's important to recognize that this is our very first, I'll say live action Brainiac, even though we've gotten him, I think he was in the show Krypton on sci-fi.

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Did he show up in the Superman show that was on HBO?

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Has he shown up anywhere else besides like Krypton?

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I'm pretty sure Brainiac was in Smallville.

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You would be the expert on that.

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actually, I've, I've not seen smallville all the way through, so I don't know.

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Wow.

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Somebody save Chris's nerd card.

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ah Well, I guess I would be in question here also.

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You know what?

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While you continue to read that, I'm going to Google that and see.

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Yeah, because you know, the all knowing Google machine.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Check out the Google machine there.

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making his debut in 1958, action comics, 242 from writer, auto binder and artist Al Plastino, the hyper intelligent green skin, colon.

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I think I'm saying that correctly is known for his vast intellect and longevity.

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Brainiac originally appeared as a collector obsessed with preserving civilizations by shrinking and storing their cities in bottles.

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Uh, Brainiac is widely considered the smartest being in the DC universe, followed by Lex Luthor, Bruce Wayne's Batman, and then Michael Holtz, Mr.

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Terrific.

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So we've already met.

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all three of those other smart, well, not in this universe, I guess we haven't met the Batman yet, but Michael Holt and Lex Luthor we already have met.

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So Brainiac will be officially smarter.

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I'm assuming that's going to be sort of the turmoil in this film is that Superman is going to inherit the help of his friends and Lex Luthor.

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They're all going to put their brains together and go, Oh, just kidding.

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We're not that smart.

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We don't understand.

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We're like two steps behind this guy.

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cannot get ahead of him.

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Braniac wasn't smallville.

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He was, and he was played actually, uh, I gotta remember the actor's name, but, if you remember spike from angel and like Buffy, that's the actor who played.

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OK.

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Just one of those like 2000 sitcom that guy, know, like one of those guys that, you know, he showed up in multiple of those type of uh shows.

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among his many infamous acts over the years, capturing the Kryptonian capital and lost city of Kandor uh is among uh one of his biggest feats and something that constantly brings Kal-El back to Brainiac's door.

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So Superman Man of Tomorrow is set to release on September 9th, 2027.

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So we still have quite a bit of ways until we get this movie, but.

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Aaron, guess I'll ask you, there's no right answer here, but what is sort of your attachment to Brainiac?

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Do you have any knowledge on the character outside of the fact that he's smart and green?

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I've seen him in a lot of different things.

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Obviously the cartoons, the comics, the injustice video game.

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want to say injustice too.

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He was kind of like the pivotal like bad guy in that.

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So he's an obviously smallville as well.

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I think he's a, I'm pretty sure he was also in a super girl as well.

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I'm pretty sure he was in super goal.

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So I feel like he's, he is an underused and it sounds like he's being used a lot, but I feel like he's really an underused, underdeveloped.

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Big Bad.

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Like the quality of his character in like standalone is has not been really used to its potential in any capacity.

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I think the problem with Brainiac is a similar problem, similar but different problem as Superman.

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What do you do when you have the smartest character?

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And a very similar way is what do you have if you have the strongest character?

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And I think there are ways to get into that.

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Like uh Brain versus Braun, they actually kind of touched on that in the first movie a little bit.

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There's that part at the end of the film right before he's about to take on the clone, Ultraman as he's called in the film.

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But Brain versus Braun is sort of the central conflict between.

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Brainiac and Superman.

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And usually Superman has to inherit the help of the Justice League and other heroes to take on Brainiac because as we said a moment ago, Brainiac is usually a couple steps ahead.

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So this is exciting.

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I don't even know who I'd want to play Brainiac.

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I would imagine it's going to be someone in a, you know, a dotted suit of some sort and he'll be mostly CGI.

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But, you know, I think it would be, it would be who of James Gunn and Peter Saffron and the DC folks that, you know, the powers that be to find someone with like a sort of a smart aleck intellect, you know, someone that has like that is smug and like knows how smart they are, but it's still sort of charismatic in that way.

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no, what are you thinking?

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want Brainiac to be cold and calculated.

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I want him to be almost machine, like machine smart.

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Like I want him to maybe, I want him to embody our fears of AI because that's what he is.

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That's basically what I would say.

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I mean, obviously they didn't really understand like what AI could really be in 1958.

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They didn't really understand the detrimental impact it could have to, you know, existence in general.

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ah So I want them I want them to really have just like And again, this is why I say he's been undervalued He's been underused because you do you whenever they've used him.

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He's had a bit of ego He's had a he's had vulnerabilities.

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I want a cold calculated fucking brainiac machine that has no cares No concerns just has his mission and he's not going to stop until he can until he completes it And I want and that's the thing that it's going to be a lot like uh very much a lot like fighting Lex Luthor because you're going to have Lex Luthor who is unattached to a degree on emotional other than his rage that he has for Superman.

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So he's going to be a bigger, badder, worse version of Lex Luthor.

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And I think Lex is going to see that.

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That's what's going to bring them together.

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Is that exactly that Lex is going to see this guy and go, oh my God, he has no remorse whatsoever at any point.

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Lex, we didn't really see in the first movie, but I think he still has that human part of him that he doesn't want the earth to explode or be entrapped in a bottle.

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don't think.

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Right.

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So that's really the main difference.

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It's hard to rule if you're if you're if you're under somebody else's thumb in a fucking glass jar, right?

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And Lex Luthor wants to be in charge.

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Totally.

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Good friends of the show, Jeff Johns and Gary Frank now over at Ghost Machine.

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They were of course two huge creators over at DC for a long time.

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They have an excellent run.

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I'll call it.

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It's Action Comics 866 to 870.

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It's literally just called Superman colon Brainiac.

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You can find it in a trade.

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It's excellent.

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If you want to really learn more about the character of Brainiac, I think it's a really good read there.

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So you sort of, you spoke about sort of the dangers and the nervousness of AI and we're trending ever so, you know, actually I wouldn't say we're trending, we're literally careening towards it currently, Aaron.

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Why don't you talk about the next topic here?

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Ugh, this is fucking disgusting.

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Pardon my language.

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It's gross.

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It's absolutely gross.

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And I've already on Twitter, I will cancel my subscription.

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Marty there.

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Plus has been canceled for a bit for me.

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Yeah.

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Bob Iger says AI generated content uh is coming to Disney plus in the near future during the company's quarter four earnings call.

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Disney CEO Bob Iger revealed that Disney plus will soon incorporate AI in new and unexpected ways, including the ability for users to create their own AI generated content.

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No, no, no, no.

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uh So according to Bob Iger, Disney has been having interesting conversations with some of the AI companies describing those discussions as quite productive, whatever the fuck that means, since they don't produce anything, they just steal it.

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The studio's goal, he explained, is to explore how this technology can be used to enhance storytelling and consumer interaction while protecting Disney's massive library of franchises and characters.

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It can't.

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I don't understand how they can't understand that.

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just really quick.

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I'm sorry.

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I don't mean to cut you off, but just let's just analyze that last sentence.

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Consumer interaction franchise.

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That's what Bob Iger is thinking about.

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He does not see, he does not see the Marvel universe or star Wars or Mickey Mouse as a lovable character.

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He doesn't look at it as like a four year old could make Mickey Mouse his favorite character.

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Like that plush that that four year old has that's just a, that's a dollar sign to Bob Iger, you know, That's what that's what's wrong with.

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Gosh, we do not need to get in this topic more than we have to.

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But like that is wrong with these out of touch billionaires that just have no fucking clue what they're doing to the world with this.

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Like it's insane.

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And he says here as well to enhance storytelling, as you said, Aaron, A.I.

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does not it doesn't storytell it patterns.

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It creates patterns and it copies.

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So everything you if for anybody who uses chat, GPT or any type of A.I.

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for storytelling, it's not telling a story.

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It's stealing.

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from other people and mixing it all together in just a dead eyed fucking horrific way.

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That's all it is.

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Exactly.

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So he goes on to say the changes include a number of game like features supported by Fortnite developers, Epic Games, and a brand new focus on user participation.

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The other thing that we're really excited about that AI is going to give us the ability to do is to provide users of Disney plus with a much more engaged experience, including the ability for them to create user generated content and to consume user generated content, mostly short form from others.

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First off, this isn't YouTube.

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This isn't TikTok.

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This is supposed to be a streaming service that we pay for.

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Why am I paying for somebody else to make content and put it on Disney Plus?

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I don't want to see that shit.

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I don't want to see big fucking companies making AI generated bullshit.

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So why would I want to see other like other people?

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it's that's my problem.

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It's infected every other like algorithm and other stream of whatever information you get already.

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I mean, I was just going down headlines because I use certain uh apps and tools to look at headlines just so I know kind of what I want to click on.

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And that has an algorithm base that understands the things that I want to see.

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When I'm reading down that recently, I've started seeing like information gathered by AI underneath some of these topics.

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I'm just like, this is completely fucked.

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That's not what I want.

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So uh Disney also announced that Disney Plus added three point eight million new subscribers this past quarter, helping boost streaming profits.

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The company plans to invest one billion dollars more in content in twenty twenty six than it did in twenty twenty five.

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I don't care.

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I have a theory that those subscribers that they've gained, I would venture, and I feel like this might be sort of a, I'm totally, this is shot in the dark, but I would imagine more than half, if not slightly below half of those 3.8 million subscribers are people who canceled during the Jimmy Kimmel shit that was happening.

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And then re either like silently or just came back after that whole debacle was sort of fixed.

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I'm going tell you where they came from.

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Where they came from fucking app like like these people who sign up customers who sign up for like Verizon.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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T-Mobile who get a bundle.

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These aren't paying like people who want to come in there.

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These are people who are who are literally like force fed a subscription subscription because it comes with their phone plan.

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So you can't this is not a voluntary number.

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I'd also like to know how many they lost compared to how many they've gained over twenty twenty five.

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So I hope they put those those statistics out because uh I call bullshit.

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I mean, obviously the movie we're talking about today is sort of under the umbrella of Disney and we can have that discussion when we get to Badlands.

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But I will just say that like from my viewpoint, it feels like what's really keeping Disney afloat and just sort of keeping them towards the top is not Disney Plus.

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It's their parks.

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ah I don't know.

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I was I think I told you, Aaron, on the grid last week that is actually this past week that I was in Savannah and then we went down to Orlando for Universal.

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And there was a part of me that kind of wanted to go to Disney.

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Like just there's like a small inkling that was like, let me just look at the tickets.

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Let me just see what it would cost and take for us to get over there for like just maybe like six hours.

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Right.

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When I tell you that it was like $200 plus for a half day pass to go to Disney and that there are some families out there that for one reason or another are willing to shell that kind of money out for their kids.

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I think it's mostly kids, right?

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It's not, there are probably some Disney adults and those are weird Disney adults.

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Yeah.

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I I'm weird ass Disney adults.

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get it.

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But like it's mostly a dad who's worked too hard just trying to make it up to his kids or as you know, a mom who wants to take pictures so that she can put them on social media and show her show her friends and family that she's a good mom.

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It's those people, right?

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Paying way too much to do a thing that's not worth it.

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So the parks and it's been it's record profits every quarter for for Disney World and Disneyland out in California.

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So I think that's what's keeping them afloat.

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And at some point, there's going to be a breaking point with those two entities.

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Like at some point, people are going to stop doing this shit.

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We'll see what that is.

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think that I've ever paid full price for a Disney or like any park pass because I mean in the mills or we have the the tickets and tours office on base so you can usually get a pretty good bundle but those those tickets come with like some fairly large blackout dates but however I will never pay full price I will I'm not gonna be a parent so it's a parent I'm not a parent so I'll never have to pay for anybody else besides you know you know Carly to go to fucking any any like that but I know.

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I do want to ride the Tron ride.

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That's the only thing.

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the Aaron.

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That's the thing is that like I even had the same feeling when we went to Universal for Harry Potter world.

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Obviously JK Rowling, a complete monster.

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She was who we thought she was everybody.

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When she came out and said all that horrible shit back in the day on Twitter, I was like, wow, that's fucked up.

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That's terrible.

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And then, and then she did sort of a PR spin.

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She's like, Oh no, no, no, I'm just a feminist.

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I think people took it out of context.

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And then Aaron, I don't know if you've noticed, I'm not on Twitter anymore, but my understanding is that for like the last seven years since then, She has just been constantly pushing this anti-trans rhetoric constantly on social media.

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has become a cesspool for So moving on.

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this episode has been horrifically negative, everybody.

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We apologize, but let's get into some more Disney slop.

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Alien Earth has been renewed for season two as Noah Hawley expands the deal with FX and Disney.

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So we covered the first season of Alien Earth here on the show a couple of weeks ago and seemed to be a big hit.

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know, Aaron and I had very particular opinions about that show.

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And we thought if I remember correctly, Aaron, it was a pretty mixed bag.

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You liked it, think.

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I was sort of iffy on some things, but I know you liked it more than I did.

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I had an overall positive experience with it.

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still kind of, think I might go back actually and watch it again.

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I want to say this is really our first episodic intro into that kind of, the Ripley verse, or Ripley verse, me.

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Ripley verse also, yeah.

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really for me, it's like, I don't know, I'm still kind of up in the, to be honest, and it's odd to think about it right now, because I haven't really given it much thought since we watched it and reviewed it.

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I'm still kind of up in the air about it, I might go back and rewatch it just to see how I feel, especially after having watched Predator badly.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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So here's what uh Noah Hawley and folks say.

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So of course, as we said, season two of Alien Earth has been renewed.

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And with that, the announcement comes with the biggest reveal is that Noah Hawley got a huge payday.

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He basically signed a massive nine figure deal to not only sort of show run season two of Alien Earth over on FX, which will no longer be on Hulu.

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I don't know if people have heard, speaking of Disney Plus is that Disney Plus is about to absorb Hulu and then there will be no more, everything on Hulu will be just beyond on Disney Plus.

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uh It says here that FX chairman John Lengraaff praised Holly's continued partnership saying, has been our great privilege to work with Noah for more than a decade on some FX, some of FX's best and biggest shows.

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And we are thrilled to extend our partnership well into the future.

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So the Walt Disney company announced that the first episode of Alien Earth garnered a 9.2 million view count worldwide within its first six days of streaming, making it the ninth most streamed original series of all time, cumulatively, according to Nielsen's media research.

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Aaron, I'm guessing here just based on context that you are excited for this and want more of this.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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I'll be excited, especially with kind of the route that we're going right now.

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Like I am very excited, very excited for for mom.

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Yeah, I guess it's spoiler.

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know why you're stopping because this could be an interesting conversation to talk about what has 20th century done to Alien and Predator since Disney bought the properties, right?

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I think that's something we can talk about here in a moment, but I agree with you.

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And I think I even said during our Alien Earth review that while I didn't have the best time with Alien Earth, I think there were a lot of bad decisions with that series.

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I want more of that.

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Like it was was excellently shot.

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It looked great.

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Sounded great.

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I feel like it had all the hallmarks of things that I wanted from an Alien series.

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I just didn't particularly love the story and how very centric it was and how we basically just got to look at it more once or twice.

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Synth-centric you say.

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We're about to get more synth centric here in just a moment.

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Alrighty, here we go.

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Let's talk about Predator Badlands.

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Aaron, initial thoughts on the latest entry and the third entry of Dan Trachtenberg in the Predator 20th Century universe.

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Awesome.

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Anything else you want to add to that or just restart there?

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Very awesome.

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It was that a very in there.

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Yeah.

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I mean, this is interesting.

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We were talking and I mentioned that I had just seen Predator Badlands today before.

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I wanted to hear your thoughts because when I went to go see it, I saw it at AMC 17 here in Indianapolis, Salt and Dolby.

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So it sounded great.

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And I remember as I'm watching it, we're about 20 minutes in, it's around the time where we meet Thea.

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I go, This is the most different Predator movie I've ever seen.

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This is so not Dutch and the Boys out in the jungle.

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You know what mean?

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This is not even like Shane Black, Olivia Mund and that crew fighting up giant Predator and the regular Predator from the first movie.

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This is a wildly different buddy cop version of the Predator franchise, right?

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And I'm curious, was wondering, because I think one of the interesting things about Predator as a franchise, and I think this movie, best articulates this is that it's an extremely flexible franchise.

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I think sometimes Predator gets lumped into the horror sort of both.

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alien and predator do.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yeah.

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it's like Alien 1, I guess you could maybe consider to be a horror film, maybe even Romulus a little bit too.

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But in my mind, those movies are science fiction movies.

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Predator on the other hand, the first movie I think is again, as I said, the best action film of all time.

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The second movie is sort of a self parody.

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It's kind of a schlocky sort of reflection of the Predator franchise.

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Like it's not, it's so not the first Predator, that second movie.

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So we had, we had a long line of films that came out about the predator to timeline.

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And that was like a Robo cop.

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Yeah.

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There's there are comedy bits to it, but it's, it's almost satirical.

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It's almost society satirical, like science fiction comedy.

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You know, like yeah, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Total recall judge dread.

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Like all those where we take society.

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We give it that post-apocalyptic, you know, it's dystopian kind of uh like wash to it, like filter, but then we add in a little bit of comedy to it.

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And that's what you had.

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I mean, you even had that with the first Predator, which was still an amazing action film, but absolutely with Predator 2.

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Yeah, totally.

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uh And I totally agree with you.

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Demolition Man, another example of this sort of like dystopian, just sort of like turned up to whatever your setting is, turn it up to 11.

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So then we move on.

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So we get into 2000s.

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We've got Alien vs Predator and Alien vs Predator Requiem.

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OK.

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And I think this is where, to my mind, the franchise sort of distorted both both franchises.

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I think even before that with Alien, the Alien franchise, I think you get into like Resurrection and Alien 3 as both.

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wild misses for the franchise.

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While we can enjoy those movies today, think it sort of got away from I think what makes Alien so great.

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Absolutely.

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I think Alien sort of latched onto Predator and said, come over here, come over here to the crazy world.

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And that's what they did with Alien vs.

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Predator and Alien vs.

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Predator Requiem.

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They tried to take a radical swing to make this series, both franchise, uh relevant.

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And that's what they tried to do, because Resurrection was a complete fucking flop.

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It was a piece of shit.

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I'm pretty sure it's considered retconned, be not even a part of the canon of the Ridley universe.

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And so, yeah, they tried that.

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They're like, fuck, we're failing.

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They really hadn't had a Predator in a while.

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So they're like, let's do alien versus predator because it makes just total fucking sense.

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Right guys?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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You know, and then they did, you know, aliens versus predator too, because number the first one got semi interested and made money and then alien versus printer too was an absolute dog shit.

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Made no fucking sense.

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Um, and so like, yeah, it's like at that point, that's really the last time we had a real like in depth look other than was it predators?

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Well, here we go.

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going into 20, so 10 years later after Requiem, we get The Predator, which is I think a movie that I discounted for a long time and has since returned to.

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And I think it's much better than I remember it being.

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That one deserves more love.

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I think that one was misunderstood because of what like Requiem and Alien vs.

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Prey, like what those two films did to the franchise or to both franchises.

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I think that it made so much sense.

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was, that one was probably one of the closest movies to a Predator novel that I've ever watched.

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Like it made so much, it brought so much lore.

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to big screen that that would, you know, cause again, like, and I'll say this alien versus predator, which was the one where they go into the, the Aztec temple in the ice that stole from, from, from novels.

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And then the predator stole from novels as well.

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like, but, did it much better.

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You're going to see a trend everybody as we talk about Predator Badlands and sort of this overall franchise.

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SD Perry is going to become very, very familiar to you because a lot of this franchise and specifically even I would even say Predator Badlands, we'll talk about it here in a moment, has been taken from the Extended Universe that was over at Dark Horse and then in some of the novels and so on.

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So before we do though, Predators, all time low.

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think having Shane Black direct a Predator movie makes so much sense on paper and it just...

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It just didn't work like for multiple reasons, mostly giant CGI predator and boring family stuff and a military crew that is not even like a lick of interesting compared to the first movie.

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So they tried they tried things, but it just didn't work.

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And none of it.

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Let's try and do what we did with the first Predator movie, but with veterans.

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Okay, hear me out.

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Instead of Arnst Schwarzenegger, Boyd Holbrook.

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ah How about, how about instead of one predator that predators, he's prey.

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You know, you know the predator, right?

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You know, the first one, right?

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Yeah.

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We're to put him up.

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He's going to come back.

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He's back.

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Everybody's back.

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He's going to go up against a giant CGI one.

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But he's yeah.

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Well, he's back though.

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Somehow.

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Yeah.

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um Hey, that's OK.

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Let's do that.

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But Predator Suit.

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I think that's, that's something.

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Yep.

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Yep.

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So we wait another 10 years, everybody.

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And then we get prey a very like, Aaron, I don't, if you could, can you take yourself back three years ago to when prey came out?

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We covered it here on the show as one of our first, well, not one of our first, but as one of our earlier reviews here on the show.

00:31:36.650 --> 00:31:39.109
And we were bloat, we were both blown away by it.

00:31:39.109 --> 00:31:44.170
And I remember at the time being like, how was this never on my radar?

00:31:44.170 --> 00:31:54.067
And I think it's because it went straight to Hulu and it was during COVID and all those things, but like, That was a total return to form and it sort of started the now Trachtenberg universe that living in currently.

00:31:54.067 --> 00:31:55.939
It was, I mean, I'm going to call it art.

00:31:55.939 --> 00:31:58.049
It deserves a revisit and I'm going to revisit it.

00:31:58.049 --> 00:32:00.721
That was pure art.

00:32:00.721 --> 00:32:02.702
It was so well done.

00:32:02.702 --> 00:32:09.708
And Trachtenberg has his finger, as we say, of many things, he has his finger on the pulse of like the predator.

00:32:09.708 --> 00:32:19.852
And again, like I think having watched some of his interviews, having listened to what he's felt and thought and figured out about these shared universes.

00:32:19.852 --> 00:32:24.896
I think he has a lot of good ideas going in him and I'm excited to see what he does.

00:32:24.942 --> 00:32:26.102
Yeah, totally.

00:32:26.102 --> 00:32:34.682
And then we covered it here on the show a couple of months ago, Predator, Killer of Killers, a movie again that I was sort of just, remember seeing a trailer for it and going, okay, that's interesting.

00:32:34.682 --> 00:32:37.461
Not really considering it until the day it came out.

00:32:37.461 --> 00:32:40.279
And then we watched it and we were both like, okay, we need to talk about this.

00:32:40.279 --> 00:32:42.932
getting shit for how I felt about that one.

00:32:43.362 --> 00:32:59.133
Well, the thing is is that we and we said this here on the show I think if you go back and listen to our predator killer of killers episode We come across way more critical than we actually felt I think if you listen to that chat and the sort of our overall views of it at the end We're like, why are we so critical this movie?

00:32:59.133 --> 00:32:59.762
We both liked it.

00:32:59.762 --> 00:33:00.789
Like what's going on here?

00:33:00.789 --> 00:33:03.809
Yeah, so it's OK to be critical and like something.

00:33:03.809 --> 00:33:04.201
Totally.

00:33:04.201 --> 00:33:06.195
Yeah, I totally agree.

00:33:06.195 --> 00:33:10.134
again, talking about Badlands here, Aaron, let me know, how did you see the movie?

00:33:10.134 --> 00:33:13.712
Again, you saw it there in New York, but I'm curious, what was your theater like?

00:33:13.712 --> 00:33:18.973
m So I went to a basic piece of shit like small like part of Bay Ridge theater.

00:33:18.973 --> 00:33:23.732
I mean almost to the point where it felt like it was like somebody's theater and like the back of their house.

00:33:23.758 --> 00:33:26.253
Some billionaire just like created a theater and put it in his house.

00:33:26.253 --> 00:33:32.102
some, some, some a hundred thousand error had like a large room that he put a screen up in and a couple of recliners.

00:33:33.713 --> 00:33:37.574
And I haven't really even, I don't think I've even said how I felt about this movie.

00:33:37.634 --> 00:33:39.153
I had a good time with it.

00:33:39.153 --> 00:33:44.433
I basically, my entire, my entire viewing was just me going, I need Aaron to tell me what he thinks about this.

00:33:44.433 --> 00:33:56.153
Because the thing is, when I was watching this movie, I remember having fun with it, but I also remember being sort of precious to the Predator franchise.

00:33:56.213 --> 00:33:58.473
While I was watching, was like, hold on, wait a second.

00:33:58.473 --> 00:33:59.074
Why is L.

00:33:59.074 --> 00:34:00.685
Fanning being so cute and bubbly?

00:34:00.685 --> 00:34:02.586
This is not a, this is a predator movie.

00:34:02.586 --> 00:34:09.545
They're supposed to be growling and, and skulls attached to spines and, and, like weapon montages.

00:34:09.545 --> 00:34:10.505
That's supposed to be predator.

00:34:10.505 --> 00:34:12.226
What's, what's going on here?

00:34:12.286 --> 00:34:17.826
But I think what I think the reason why I got on board with this movie, I'll say the fact that it looks great.

00:34:17.826 --> 00:34:21.326
And we'll talk about the budget here in a moment, but movie looks incredible.

00:34:21.326 --> 00:34:22.025
Sounds great.

00:34:22.025 --> 00:34:23.865
Again, I saw it in a Dolby theater, so that really helped.

00:34:23.865 --> 00:34:33.867
But my sort of encompassing thought on this movie and part of the reason why I had such a good time with it is that It was airtight, first of all, the story was airtight, but also it was simple.

00:34:33.867 --> 00:34:47.318
And I don't mean that as a slight, I think it was just sort of fun to go along the ride and you just sort of, I don't know how you felt Aaron and you're more than welcome to elaborate on this, but I just sort of got on board with Deck and his sort of journey immediately, like from the opening scene.

00:34:47.318 --> 00:34:50.630
And I think they do a good job of showcasing that and why we do that.

00:34:50.699 --> 00:34:59.054
So I knew that I was locked in within the first five minutes because I found myself leaning forward in my seat.

00:34:59.054 --> 00:35:07.309
And I don't think I left that position for about like half the movie till I realized like how I was kind of like, cause I felt the same way.

00:35:07.309 --> 00:35:20.876
I felt I feel protective of this franchise because of how much I know about it and how much I love it and how much I've cared for like the movies and then, you know, like disliked some of the choices that have been made.

00:35:20.876 --> 00:35:31.565
But I found myself with this particular film completely, like even in a theater where I was, which wasn't a great quality theater, I found myself immersed.

00:35:31.565 --> 00:35:34.657
And that was because they did such a great job.

00:35:34.657 --> 00:35:44.076
Tractorberg did such a great job of world building, character building, and connecting you with Dec.

00:35:44.076 --> 00:35:45.197
And not just Dec.

00:35:45.197 --> 00:35:46.987
And to be honest, like...

00:35:47.521 --> 00:35:52.344
I found myself not only connecting with him as a character, but like his emotions.

00:35:52.686 --> 00:36:02.722
And we found depth to a movie monster, quote unquote movie monster that we had not seen ever before.

00:36:02.722 --> 00:36:08.108
Yeah, this is the first time a predator or Yautja has ever been the main antagonist of its own film.

00:36:08.108 --> 00:36:15.010
Every other time we're following some human or something else, like even in Killer of Killers, we're following three other folks, you know?

00:36:15.010 --> 00:36:34.880
Yeah, and so for me, like, again, when I caught myself as immersed as I was, uh as holding my breath at times, as like excited, as like intense, and like just like, you know, like making those faces and those eyes, like, holy shit, like, you know, like some of those moments, I'm just like, this is cool.

00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:44.786
Like, I thought, and again, it was completely out of left field, and I don't ever, like, there's so few times where a movie really surprises me.

00:36:44.786 --> 00:36:51.141
And I found myself, I surprised myself in how much I actually had a good time with him.

00:36:51.373 --> 00:36:54.476
I think one of the things that's most impressive about this, there's two things.

00:36:54.476 --> 00:37:03.764
It's one's about a story and one's about the look is that for me in the story, I think it highlights this really interesting thought that like for a long time as young people, we sort of have this idea.

00:37:03.764 --> 00:37:08.088
create this goalpost in our, in our mind of something we really want.

00:37:08.088 --> 00:37:12.512
And if we don't get that thing, it crushes us and like nothing else matters.

00:37:12.512 --> 00:37:19.981
And I think that sort of showcases like remember Aaron, when you're in high school and like nothing is more important than just like the girl that you like liking you back.

00:37:19.981 --> 00:37:22.833
Like something very trivial like that, where that's like your world.

00:37:22.833 --> 00:37:25.846
And if she doesn't even like acknowledge you, it fucking crushes you.

00:37:25.846 --> 00:37:26.626
Right?

00:37:26.626 --> 00:37:35.130
And like as a young person for Dex specifically, him earning his cloak and getting his father's acceptance is all, that's his only goal.

00:37:35.130 --> 00:37:39.472
He has literally no other, he has his blinders on to everything else in the world.

00:37:39.472 --> 00:37:52.233
And I think what this movie does really well, and we'll get more in depth with it as we go on, is that you find out as you live life, as you get out there into the world, that some unexpected things become very important to you as you experience life.

00:37:52.233 --> 00:37:59.530
Things happen to you, you learn more about the world and then like your ideals change, know, your priorities change.

00:37:59.530 --> 00:38:00.378
So that's one thing.

00:38:00.378 --> 00:38:02.990
And then the other thing was, looks incredible.

00:38:02.990 --> 00:38:07.083
I think the practical look of a Yautja is so important to me.

00:38:07.083 --> 00:38:12.987
As I said, Aaron, that's one of the things I was really precious about was I knew that Dec was going to be somewhat, if not mostly CGI.

00:38:12.987 --> 00:38:16.846
When I tell everyone that if for some reason you're listening to this and you have not watched the movie.

00:38:16.846 --> 00:38:18.106
He looks incredible.

00:38:18.106 --> 00:38:23.126
actually every Yautja, every being, there are some rubbery CGI here and there.

00:38:23.126 --> 00:38:34.579
Like when, when Deck and his brother are fighting at the beginning of the movie, that looks kind of rubbery, looks a little Marvel universe, looks a little Black Panther in the, um, my screen wasn't that high tech because I didn't notice any of that.

00:38:34.983 --> 00:38:38.746
It just looked a little rubbery to me, but overall, like it still is a great looking movie.

00:38:38.746 --> 00:38:40.769
So I just want to highlight those two things.

00:38:40.769 --> 00:38:58.485
And I think the interesting thing to speak on that is this once again, this is really one of the first times where we see a feature length feature length film where the predator does not have his traditional armor on 90 to 95 % of the movie.

00:38:58.485 --> 00:39:06.737
Generally it's the predator goes through the battle at some point towards the end in the final scene or towards the finals in the final scene, final battle.

00:39:06.737 --> 00:39:10.822
He gets his mass damage or he's got to remove it for some reason.

00:39:10.822 --> 00:39:16.552
You see that you see that that that traditional scene where it's like the mask just falls into the water.

00:39:16.552 --> 00:39:17.768
It's like or in the mud.

00:39:17.768 --> 00:39:18.617
Yeah.

00:39:19.119 --> 00:39:20.300
Yeah.

00:39:21.221 --> 00:39:22.762
And so we didn't see that.

00:39:22.762 --> 00:39:28.788
We saw a predator with a complete lack of an arsenal with and we'll get it again.

00:39:28.788 --> 00:39:30.387
I don't want spoilers too much.

00:39:30.387 --> 00:39:37.728
Well, since we haven't gotten into the summary or anything like that, but we just see a predator who is really solo.

00:39:37.728 --> 00:39:44.329
solo and hands-on and I think again that was something that was very cool, very cool to see.

00:39:44.333 --> 00:39:45.653
And he's a short king.

00:39:45.653 --> 00:39:49.074
That's first short king and short king in the predator universe.

00:39:49.074 --> 00:39:51.393
Shout out to the short kings out there.

00:39:52.452 --> 00:39:52.893
All right.

00:39:52.893 --> 00:39:55.150
Well, speaking of that summary, Aaron, why don't you talk about the summary here?

00:39:55.150 --> 00:40:01.994
Alright, so set in the future on a remote planet called Genna, a young and unproven Yautja is left for dead by his clan.

00:40:01.994 --> 00:40:10.827
Deck the Yautja runt finds an unlikely ally in the Weyland-Yutani synthetic, Thea, and the two embark on a dangerous journey in search of the ultimate hunt.

00:40:11.326 --> 00:40:12.827
And Aaron, you mentioned it there a moment ago.

00:40:12.827 --> 00:40:16.329
The film opens up with an entry from the Yautja Codex.

00:40:16.329 --> 00:40:22.913
Now remind me if I'm maybe off base here, but I think they've only been doing these Yautja Codexes in the Trachtenberg films.

00:40:22.913 --> 00:40:23.552
Is that correct?

00:40:23.552 --> 00:40:23.902
Correct.

00:40:23.902 --> 00:40:24.333
Okay.

00:40:24.333 --> 00:40:25.713
Just want to make sure on that one.

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This is a strict code of honor held by every clan of the warrior race.

00:40:29.635 --> 00:40:33.358
While this new entry confirms that the Yautja are friend and prey to none.

00:40:33.358 --> 00:40:39.101
The animated anthology movie that we talked about a couple months ago, Killer of Killers was the first, it was the first predator.

00:40:39.101 --> 00:40:51.851
uh Project to open with the codex entry of its own So maybe they didn't do it for prey, but they definitely did for killer killers I remember us talking about it on the show and in killer of killers They said go forth among the stars and seek only the strongest prey.

00:40:51.851 --> 00:41:14.402
They shall be your trophy become the killer of killers So I like that I like that sort of soft entry into the universe and sort of uh it gives you like a Encompassing view of what the movie might be about so a skull of an I think this was showcased in the trailer so I think people were kind of excited to see what this actually was but a skull of an alien from Independence Day, which canonically is known as the Harvesters.

00:41:14.402 --> 00:41:17.141
I've seen the Yautja Trophy room on the ship there.

00:41:17.141 --> 00:41:22.322
Some also believe that the skull could actually be an alien from War of Worlds from 2005.

00:41:22.322 --> 00:41:27.942
It has the same shape as the skulls of the aliens that are more similar to the skull shown in Predator Badlands.

00:41:28.402 --> 00:41:33.961
Ironically enough, War of Worlds was also co-starring Dakota Fanning, the older sister of Elle Fanning.

00:41:33.961 --> 00:41:36.902
So that would be an interesting tie-in to that whole thing.

00:41:37.262 --> 00:41:40.184
then, and Aaron, I was telling this before we actually, got into the recording.

00:41:40.184 --> 00:41:45.407
actually read the tie-in comic they put out this last week for Predator Badlands.

00:41:45.407 --> 00:41:47.257
It's just called Predator Badlands number one.

00:41:47.257 --> 00:41:49.708
It's actually scripted by Dan Trachtenberg.

00:41:49.708 --> 00:41:55.240
it was, I think this was a scene or a couple of scenes that he wanted for the movie, didn't have space for.

00:41:55.240 --> 00:41:59.663
So he actually handed it off to Ethan Sacks and it was illustrated by Elvin Chen.

00:41:59.663 --> 00:42:03.565
And uh they basically made it into a one issue one shot.

00:42:03.565 --> 00:42:04.684
And I read it before.

00:42:04.684 --> 00:42:06.786
Do you want to know what the one shot is?

00:42:06.860 --> 00:42:07.280
I mean, sure.

00:42:07.280 --> 00:42:07.471
Yeah.

00:42:07.471 --> 00:42:08.681
I mean, I picked it up also.

00:42:08.681 --> 00:42:10.054
I just haven't gotten a chance to read it yet.

00:42:10.054 --> 00:42:13.407
So, but yeah, I'd love to hear kind of the summary.

00:42:13.666 --> 00:42:19.871
Yeah, it's basically, Deck and Quay are pretty much uh on a mission, more training, I guess is what you would say.

00:42:19.871 --> 00:42:26.286
And uh their father, who I'm spacing the name of right now, is looking for some kind of like interface for a ship.

00:42:26.286 --> 00:42:28.478
needs a new interface for one of his ships.

00:42:28.478 --> 00:42:30.800
So Deck and his brother go off to do that.

00:42:30.800 --> 00:42:42.972
And when they go to this ship, this abandoned ship on their planet in Genoa, uh they get on there and there's an interface, but it's also being protected by, it's like a giant defense system that manufactures itself into a Yautja.

00:42:42.972 --> 00:42:48.599
So basically he fights like a giant Yautja and like there's these like random aliens in cryostasis.

00:42:48.599 --> 00:42:51.172
That's sort of where the issue ends.

00:42:51.172 --> 00:42:56.137
I think it might've been possibly a setup for something, but that's all I know.

00:42:56.137 --> 00:42:57.601
So it was interesting.

00:42:57.601 --> 00:42:59.230
Just a quick correction.

00:42:59.230 --> 00:43:03.496
they're the the original scene like they're they're on Yautja Prime.

00:43:05.217 --> 00:43:08.568
Gena is the planet is the the the what do they call it?

00:43:08.568 --> 00:43:09.869
Planet the help?

00:43:10.494 --> 00:43:11.275
Planet of death.

00:43:11.275 --> 00:43:13.291
Yeah, so Yeah.

00:43:13.652 --> 00:43:20.329
Aaron, talk a little bit about the director here as we've already spoke his name a couple of times, Dan Tractorbird, but talk a little bit about his career thus far.

00:43:20.329 --> 00:43:20.581
Yeah.

00:43:20.581 --> 00:43:27.842
mean, so the things that we really want to highlight are obviously 10 Cloverfield Lane from 2016, which I don't know.

00:43:27.842 --> 00:43:28.561
Have we talked about that?

00:43:28.561 --> 00:43:29.661
Did you enjoy that?

00:43:29.661 --> 00:43:30.989
Did you watch that one?

00:43:30.989 --> 00:43:32.800
That's the second one, correct?

00:43:32.865 --> 00:43:34.030
Or is it the third one?

00:43:34.030 --> 00:43:39.110
I want to say the fuck I don't remember you had the Cloverfield paradox.

00:43:39.110 --> 00:43:40.695
think it was It's a second one.

00:43:40.695 --> 00:43:42.481
Yeah, this is the one with John Goodman.

00:43:42.481 --> 00:43:42.882
Yes.

00:43:42.882 --> 00:43:43.364
And yes.

00:43:43.364 --> 00:43:44.887
Yeah, it is good.

00:43:45.038 --> 00:43:47.077
I really liked that one.

00:43:47.197 --> 00:43:53.838
I mean, I did like the paradox as well, but you also have prey from, so 10 Cloverfield lanes, excuse me, was from 2016.

00:43:53.958 --> 00:43:57.117
Then you have six years later, you have prey 2022.

00:43:57.117 --> 00:44:00.257
And then you have predator killer of killers for 2025.

00:44:00.257 --> 00:44:09.197
And then now obviously predator badlands, badlands completing, well, not completing, but you know, kind of finalizing a trilogy at least for Dan himself.

00:44:09.197 --> 00:44:20.757
And tractor bro has said that he was inspired by terminator to judgment day, which If I could just say kudos for taking inspiration from Judgment Day and T-800's heel flip from villain to protagonist.

00:44:20.998 --> 00:44:23.378
He sought input from its director who is James Cameron.

00:44:23.378 --> 00:44:30.538
If you don't know though, initially skeptical and I want to say Terminator 2 is an Oscar award winning film by the way though.

00:44:30.538 --> 00:44:36.204
Initially skeptical Cameron saw an early cut and told him that he had quote unquote pulled it off.

00:44:36.204 --> 00:44:37.094
Yeah.

00:44:37.094 --> 00:44:39.054
Here's a question before we move on.

00:44:39.054 --> 00:44:53.568
Between Dan Trachtenberg and Fetty Alvarez over there, and I guess Noah Hawley too with Alien Earth and Fetty of course being the director of Alien Romulus, with these three sort of at the helm, I think everybody keeps anticipating that we're eventually going to get another Alien versus Predator.

00:44:53.568 --> 00:44:54.880
Like I think that's where we're leading.

00:44:54.880 --> 00:45:02.731
I think they're just, they're not pulling out the toys from the toy chest quite yet, you know, to smash them into each other as we did when we were kids.

00:45:02.731 --> 00:45:04.516
But like, I think that's where we're headed.

00:45:04.516 --> 00:45:12.514
And I guess let me ask you of the three, Fede Alvarez, Dan Trachtenberg, Noah Hawley, who would you like to see direct that eventual Alien vs Predator film?

00:45:12.514 --> 00:45:14.574
Honestly, I'd stick with Trachtenberg.

00:45:14.574 --> 00:45:30.346
I uh I say that because if there is any shared universe that I have complete excitement for still, it would definitely be like the Ridley verse.

00:45:30.646 --> 00:45:47.818
And I say that because, I mean, it's been around for decades, decades longer than the MCU, decades longer than the DCU, decades longer than many shared universes, because we know for a fact And it is is proven that Ridley Scott's universes are all connected.

00:45:47.818 --> 00:45:50.559
So you got Blade Runner, Alien.

00:45:50.559 --> 00:45:56.583
uh Hell, I don't even know if you know this, but fucking uh Die Hard is considered part of that as well.

00:45:56.583 --> 00:46:05.630
So there's it's I mean, I know it sounds silly, but like it has, I would say, more consistently been awesome than it has been negative.

00:46:05.630 --> 00:46:10.043
You know, so I'll say like, yeah, absolutely put Trachtenberg Trachtenberg in charge of it.

00:46:10.043 --> 00:46:11.623
And I'm happy to see it.

00:46:11.639 --> 00:46:12.130
Totally.

00:46:12.130 --> 00:46:22.614
think Trakhterberg is the easy answer there because again, as I said, Noah Hawley and sort of his view of Alien Earth, I understand why people like it, but it wasn't necessarily my speed.

00:46:22.614 --> 00:46:25.014
And then Fetty Alvarez, I think we're both fans of Fetty Alvarez.

00:46:25.014 --> 00:46:27.315
Of course he did Evil Dead and then he did Alien Romulus.

00:46:27.315 --> 00:46:35.440
But I think the through line of both Evil Dead and Alien Romulus is that Fetty was very, very persistent on calling back shit.

00:46:35.440 --> 00:46:35.934
You know what mean?

00:46:35.934 --> 00:46:41.505
Like he's very, very lenient on fan anticipation and...

00:46:41.505 --> 00:46:42.487
fan service.

00:46:42.487 --> 00:46:47.869
And I guess I say that respectfully because fan service can be used as a weapon or as a tool.

00:46:47.869 --> 00:46:53.393
And I think he often uses it as a tool, but sometimes he can get in there and overkill just a little bit.

00:46:53.393 --> 00:46:58.297
And I'm thinking of the Android in Romulus where he says, away from her, you bitch.

00:46:58.297 --> 00:47:00.188
Like, how would he know to say that?

00:47:00.331 --> 00:47:04.913
thinking more of the fucking final alien that looked like the aliens resurrection baby.

00:47:07.277 --> 00:47:10.829
It's like an engineer and like a basketball player all mixed into one.

00:47:10.829 --> 00:47:11.280
Exactly.

00:47:11.280 --> 00:47:12.500
was so fucking weird.

00:47:12.500 --> 00:47:13.251
I'll say this though.

00:47:13.251 --> 00:47:26.293
um I did watch a recent interview with Dan Trachtenberg and uh the discussion was about the where Badlands falls into the timeline of the Ridley verse.

00:47:26.293 --> 00:47:30.425
And he has said that it comes after resurrection.

00:47:30.425 --> 00:47:37.918
So it is, it is the furthest in the future of any alien predator franchise.

00:47:37.918 --> 00:47:39.487
And he said that he did that.

00:47:39.596 --> 00:47:54.338
very specifically because he did not want to step on anybody else's toes and what they're doing, especially Fetty Alvarez's toes, because he wanted to make sure that these guys, everybody had room to do their own thing in this shared universe, which I really respected.

00:47:54.338 --> 00:47:55.188
Totally, yeah.

00:47:55.188 --> 00:48:00.541
I think uh Dan Trachtberg and co have been on the absolute junket for this movie.

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Elle Fanning, everybody's been doing their thing.

00:48:03.083 --> 00:48:05.615
And Dan has repeatedly said that this is a single entry.

00:48:05.615 --> 00:48:14.362
Like while there are winks and nods at like Prey, like we even see Nauru on one of the ships as like one of the warriors to look out for.

00:48:14.362 --> 00:48:18.614
Like I don't remember exactly what the context was, but she was like a hologram on the ship at the end of the movie.

00:48:18.614 --> 00:48:23.820
So like there are obviously Waylon Yutani, of course, a giant sort of Easter egg, I guess you want to call it that.

00:48:23.820 --> 00:48:28.152
So there's that, but yeah, I do like that it's sort of just off on its own doing its own thing.

00:48:28.152 --> 00:48:39.221
So Aaron, I include this next part for you because this kind of feels like if I know you, like I think I know you, are uh very particular, like you have a very particular niche of an interest.

00:48:39.221 --> 00:48:45.846
And when I think of this, it's like Klingon language, or I guess sort of the phonology of language.

00:48:45.846 --> 00:48:51.570
We finally have an alphabet for the Yautja and sort of their speech.

00:48:51.617 --> 00:48:52.358
Yeah.

00:48:52.358 --> 00:48:59.920
drawing influence from the franchise's expanded universe, Badlands is intended to be a self-contained entry in the series.

00:48:59.920 --> 00:49:07.717
That said a consistent written and verbal language for the predators was, was finally developed for the film by linguist, Britton Watkins.

00:49:07.717 --> 00:49:19.365
Uh, he also helped expand the Klingon language with Star Trek and was, he was a major part in developing the Navi language, or the language of the people, uh, for James Cameron's Avatar films.

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Sorry.

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I know I'm a nerd.

00:49:20.992 --> 00:49:26.954
So if you guys check out our show notes, our transcripts, if you have access to those being a Patreon member, check them out.

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We have the entire uh alphabet in there, but the film actually adds the term Yautja and Yautja Prime to the Predators film.

00:49:34.242 --> 00:49:45.615
Excuse me, to the Predator film series to refer to the Predator species and their home world, because I think up until now, nobody's really referred to them as Yautja like directly, except for maybe some of the books.

00:49:45.615 --> 00:49:45.925
Yeah.

00:49:45.925 --> 00:49:48.456
So they were first introduced in the franchise's expanded universe.

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First thing in 94.

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novel, Aliens vs Predator Prey, oh authored by Estee Perry and Steve Perry, which itself was a spin-off of the Randy Stradley, Phil Norwood and Carl Story Aliens vs Predator comic book series published by Dark Horse Comics.

00:50:06.677 --> 00:50:07.297
Yeah.

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As we said earlier, it's so incredibly apparent that Dan Tractorbury was a fan of those Dark Horse books from the 90s.

00:50:13.219 --> 00:50:14.539
You know what mean?

00:50:14.539 --> 00:50:20.552
Like everything that he's introduced into this universe since taking it over has almost directly tied into those S.D.

00:50:20.552 --> 00:50:22.442
Perry and Steve Perry books.

00:50:22.442 --> 00:50:23.333
For the better, right?

00:50:23.333 --> 00:50:25.293
mean, Aaron, I know you're a big fan of those books.

00:50:25.293 --> 00:50:26.342
I've read one or two of them.

00:50:26.342 --> 00:50:27.594
I actually when I think of S.D.

00:50:27.594 --> 00:50:29.934
Perry, I think of the Resident Evil books from the 2000s.

00:50:29.934 --> 00:50:40.679
That's actually where my and I guess because I'm from a uh younger generation, but like I think we all have an SD Perry film and or video game uh adaptation that we love.

00:50:40.679 --> 00:50:42.512
You know, that's right.

00:50:42.512 --> 00:50:42.989
There you go.

00:50:42.989 --> 00:50:53.081
mean, if you go to like a book, like a Barnes and Noble or even like a half price books, everybody just go next time you're in an area that has that just go into like the film adaptation section or science fiction section.

00:50:53.081 --> 00:50:59.101
There are droves of SD Perry books where this dude just added lore to different franchises.

00:50:59.101 --> 00:51:01.344
Like one of the most creative people in human history ever.

00:51:01.344 --> 00:51:13.894
ah But they said when designing the finale, the phonology of the Yeltsin language, Watkins actually took into account, they say the aliens, but I just want to say the predators speak physiology, excuse me, because they don't have lips.

00:51:13.894 --> 00:51:17.947
And I love this quote because it reminds me of something that was said in the movie, but they don't have lips.

00:51:17.947 --> 00:51:24.822
So they can't make ma or bar or Fah sounds, but they don't have to, they don't have the lips to do that.

00:51:24.864 --> 00:51:37.157
So to supplement not having F and V and the and we have consonant clusters like JL and which is like C.

00:51:37.659 --> 00:51:41.202
That we don't have in English, but they can be made lower in the throat.

00:51:41.202 --> 00:51:49.309
And so that what I say that I'm referring to, there's a line by, by uh a fan or fending, whatever Dakota fanning or whatever the fuck her name is.

00:51:49.309 --> 00:51:52.170
uh Ellie fanning or whatever.

00:51:52.992 --> 00:51:53.853
L fanning.

00:51:53.853 --> 00:51:55.181
There's so many fannings now.

00:51:55.181 --> 00:52:00.001
Um, so Thea says, uh, like which, which jaw or which teeth do the chewing?

00:52:00.001 --> 00:52:01.981
Is it the mandibles or the inside?

00:52:01.981 --> 00:52:06.601
And I don't know that just cracked me up when that, when that question came out during the film.

00:52:06.601 --> 00:52:15.561
But anyways, these constant clusters compromise multiple letter, excuse me, comprise multiple letters when written out in the Roman alphabet, but are one letter in the Yautja alphabet.

00:52:15.561 --> 00:52:21.402
Uh, the word for the Yautja word for pray, for example, starts with the letter H R R.

00:52:21.485 --> 00:52:25.253
That's like, I can't, can't my tongue, but yeah.

00:52:25.865 --> 00:52:30.489
Their alphabet is optimized for visual efficiency for their sound system, Watkin says.

00:52:30.489 --> 00:52:37.603
Unlike language like French and Spanish, Yautja has no grammatical gender, so nouns aren't assigned gender categories.

00:52:37.603 --> 00:52:40.724
There is, however, a pronoun gender distinction for he and she.

00:52:40.724 --> 00:52:44.898
We're getting this like some deep shit here, much like English.

00:52:44.898 --> 00:52:51.561
Similarly, all Yautja use chish for I and me, regardless of gender.

00:52:52.121 --> 00:52:57.264
one of the reasons Yautja has no grammatical gender is because that was most practical.

00:52:57.264 --> 00:52:58.065
So they're hunters.

00:52:58.065 --> 00:52:59.422
They're a practical species.

00:52:59.422 --> 00:53:00.784
It makes sense.

00:53:00.815 --> 00:53:06.168
there was not a lot of time to create Yautja and adding gender like that is going to add complexity to the language.

00:53:06.168 --> 00:53:06.628
I see.

00:53:06.628 --> 00:53:09.579
get what they're doing, but at the same time, I think it makes total sense.

00:53:09.579 --> 00:53:18.713
Watkins says, uh, he's explaining that this complexity would have made it more difficult to quickly turn around any adjustment to the script that needed to be made over the course of filming.

00:53:18.713 --> 00:53:21.653
But the way that I look at it is this is just.

00:53:21.769 --> 00:53:24.411
Again, they are a predatory species.

00:53:24.411 --> 00:53:29.253
The single most thought is the strengthening of the clan.

00:53:29.253 --> 00:53:36.807
So that makes sense that there is no gender uh in their language because it's only about the clan.

00:53:36.960 --> 00:53:37.920
no importance to it.

00:53:37.920 --> 00:53:39.922
Like there's no, they don't even think of it.

00:53:39.922 --> 00:53:40.202
Right.

00:53:40.202 --> 00:53:53.978
And what I found really interesting, I don't know if we have it in this year, but the Yautja language, there's a lot of importance on the way that your face, there's an importance to how it makes your face look when you say the word or when you start to pronounce things.

00:53:53.978 --> 00:54:00.663
So like you can tell how a Yautja is feeling by how they say particular words in their language.

00:54:00.663 --> 00:54:04.164
I just found that really interesting because again, they've got like crab faces.

00:54:04.164 --> 00:54:08.186
So they've got the little tentacles and they're like, saying words, you know.

00:54:09.065 --> 00:54:10.626
So I just found it really interesting.

00:54:10.626 --> 00:54:11.565
I thought you might like it too.

00:54:11.565 --> 00:54:18.146
And it's, one of those things that like, we obviously saw the little signs on the, on the armband in the first Predator movie.

00:54:18.146 --> 00:54:23.766
And we, we've seen them throughout time in these, in these movies, but they were just sort of hieroglyphics glyphics for a long time.

00:54:23.766 --> 00:54:29.606
And we finally have like a legitimate language to them, which is super nerdy and kind of cool.

00:54:29.606 --> 00:54:30.206
So.

00:54:30.206 --> 00:54:30.666
Exactly.

00:54:30.666 --> 00:54:34.166
The composers of this movie are Sarah Shackman and Benjamin Wallfish.

00:54:34.166 --> 00:54:36.440
These are the same two that worked on Prey.

00:54:36.440 --> 00:54:38.300
for uh with Dan Trachtenberg.

00:54:38.300 --> 00:54:40.081
So great soundtrack sounds great.

00:54:40.081 --> 00:54:48.302
There's sort of like a, there's like a lot of that in this movie, you know, it sounds like a, sounds kind of like a Hans Zimmer dune movie.

00:54:48.302 --> 00:54:50.250
Yeah, it's like Norwegian throat music.

00:54:50.250 --> 00:54:54.492
m exactly.

00:54:54.492 --> 00:54:57.574
uh Budget was one hundred and five million dollars.

00:54:57.574 --> 00:55:03.768
And as we look at the box office here, as of today, November 14th, Badlands has grossed fifty one point six million dollars.

00:55:03.768 --> 00:55:04.659
almost.

00:55:05.519 --> 00:55:06.039
There we are.

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Yeah.

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And thirty nine point three million in other territories for a worldwide total of ninety point eight million.

00:55:11.784 --> 00:55:14.905
It was the number one movie of this opening weekend.

00:55:14.905 --> 00:55:15.615
So again.

00:55:15.615 --> 00:55:22.068
at nearly $40 million domestically, it has already beat the record for the most profitable predator movie opening weekend of all time.

00:55:22.068 --> 00:55:26.891
It actually beat the alien versus predator record, which was $38 million back in 2004.

00:55:26.891 --> 00:55:27.391
Yeah.

00:55:27.391 --> 00:55:29.032
So clearly doing well.

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Right.

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And for a movie that costs a hundred million dollars and it's already at 90 million, we're getting another one of these guys, like no doubt about it.

00:55:35.844 --> 00:55:41.657
I, regardless of how we felt about it, we would have gotten some version of another predator movie from Tractorberg.

00:55:41.657 --> 00:55:49.603
And speaking of He says while doing press for Killer of Killers a couple months ago, Trachtenberg stated that he had four initial Predator films in mind.

00:55:49.603 --> 00:55:56.666
He had Prey, course, Killer of Killers, Badlands, and there's a unannounced fourth movie that he intends to direct and then kind of up in the air from there.

00:55:56.666 --> 00:56:06.862
But I would imagine as long as Trachtenberg wants to keep making these movies, Disney and FX and 20th century, everybody that's involved with this will more than likely let him do it.

00:56:10.797 --> 00:56:21.969
uh All that money they're saving using AI they can finally pay Tractorberg to keep making these movies Aaron talk about the cast here All right, so you got Elle Fanning as Thea and Tessa.

00:56:21.969 --> 00:56:24.213
If you hear me how excited I am, Elle Fanning.

00:56:24.213 --> 00:56:25.355
We can't just breeze past that.

00:56:25.355 --> 00:56:26.456
What do you mean by that?

00:56:26.456 --> 00:56:27.396
I just.

00:56:28.753 --> 00:56:29.809
You don't like the fannings.

00:56:29.809 --> 00:56:33.054
You don't like Dakota.

00:56:33.054 --> 00:56:35.217
No, I feel like they ruin everything.

00:56:36.132 --> 00:56:38.920
I don't even know where that feeling could come from.

00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:39.942
Like what?

00:56:40.710 --> 00:56:48.423
She has the most annoying cry slash voice like most of the Yeah, I mean still.

00:56:48.423 --> 00:56:52.880
Especially War of the Worlds.

00:56:52.880 --> 00:56:54.793
I've hated her since War of the Worlds.

00:56:54.882 --> 00:56:57.393
The kid that Tom Cruise's kid is fucking annoying too.

00:56:57.393 --> 00:56:58.653
He's the Dragon Ball Z guy.

00:56:58.653 --> 00:57:00.746
Or Dragon Ball Z evolution, whatever.

00:57:00.746 --> 00:57:01.585
He was in shameless.

00:57:01.585 --> 00:57:03.387
I forget his name now, but yeah, he was annoying too.

00:57:03.387 --> 00:57:04.307
Just stay home.

00:57:04.307 --> 00:57:07.235
Why are you out bruising the city while aliens are around?

00:57:07.235 --> 00:57:07.583
You know what mean?

00:57:07.583 --> 00:57:08.202
Exactly.

00:57:08.202 --> 00:57:09.581
Stop being a dumbass.

00:57:09.581 --> 00:57:14.021
Also, saw somewhere, Aaron, would never partake in this type of tomfoolery.

00:57:14.021 --> 00:57:24.702
I'm not a barbarian, but if you've seen Elle Fanning in real life, she's a beautiful person, beautiful woman, and she has got a particular, curvaceous body type, we'll say.

00:57:24.702 --> 00:57:30.402
And there was somebody that said that there was a reason why they cut her off at the hip in this movie.

00:57:30.402 --> 00:57:38.510
cut, basically didn't show off any of lower body, because there is a scene in this movie where her evil twin sister, is it Thea?

00:57:38.510 --> 00:57:39.690
Is that her name?

00:57:40.630 --> 00:57:49.750
There's a scene where Tessa is in the laboratory while Thea is being sort of rebooted while they're trying to figure out what's going on with the Yaocha on the table.

00:57:49.750 --> 00:57:54.710
She walks out of the room and we get a oblivious look at her rear end.

00:57:54.710 --> 00:58:02.750
And I feel like I've been seeing that particular scene, all of our social media, just neck beards freaking the fuck out because they loved it.

00:58:02.949 --> 00:58:05.250
Is your algorithm the same as mine?

00:58:05.293 --> 00:58:05.916
Absolutely not.

00:58:05.916 --> 00:58:09.623
oh need to clear my cache or something.

00:58:09.623 --> 00:58:10.838
I keep getting this bullshit.

00:58:10.838 --> 00:58:11.440
I don't want to see it.

00:58:11.440 --> 00:58:17.398
I'm not just just click a bunch of likes on like Christian, you know, Christian music videos, Christian.

00:58:19.521 --> 00:58:20.322
So yeah.

00:58:20.322 --> 00:58:26.208
L fanning is Thea and Tessa Demetrius Schuster, Koloa Matangi as deck.

00:58:26.208 --> 00:58:27.168
Yeah.

00:58:28.514 --> 00:58:29.592
I'm gonna call them alphabet.

00:58:29.592 --> 00:58:33.996
uh Reuben De Jong as Najor apex predator.

00:58:34.753 --> 00:58:35.989
Okay.

00:58:35.989 --> 00:58:37.250
it might just be Jor.

00:58:37.570 --> 00:58:43.349
Everybody is N-J-O-R-R.

00:58:46.295 --> 00:59:04.094
Mike Homic as Quay, uh Rohino Narayan as Bud, a creature of the planet Gena, uh Allison Wright as the voice of Mother, and Ross Duffer as the voice of the onboard computer for Quay's ship.

00:59:04.237 --> 00:59:08.510
Before we move on, Matt and Ross Duffer, does that name, does name sound familiar?

00:59:08.780 --> 00:59:09.672
Yeah.

00:59:10.114 --> 00:59:11.932
The Duffer Brothers from Stranger Things.

00:59:11.932 --> 00:59:13.309
The people who created Stranger Things.

00:59:13.309 --> 00:59:14.047
Oh.

00:59:14.047 --> 00:59:14.903
Interesting.

00:59:14.903 --> 00:59:16.637
Interesting to have them voice a ship.

00:59:16.637 --> 00:59:17.710
That's odd.

00:59:17.710 --> 00:59:25.170
Apparently they're all friends and I think at one point Trachtenberg was going to direct the first two episodes of this upcoming season of Stranger Things.

00:59:25.170 --> 00:59:29.126
But of course Badlands got in the middle of all that and that's why he wasn't able to do it.

00:59:29.126 --> 00:59:29.925
Interesting.

00:59:29.925 --> 00:59:30.827
Okay.

00:59:30.827 --> 00:59:38.893
So it's confirmed in the film that uh Thea and Tessa are part of Wayland's bioweapon division that actually says that title on there.

00:59:38.954 --> 00:59:44.639
The same division that made capturing and experimenting Xenomorphs its top priority.

00:59:45.221 --> 00:59:46.141
there's a connection there.

00:59:46.141 --> 00:59:55.949
I mean, we'll talk about a little bit more about the connection between uh Alien and Predator in a little bit, but Demetrius Schuster, Koloa Matangi plays not only...

00:59:55.949 --> 01:00:03.809
deck, is also is confirmed to be the body double as his character's father, Najor, who serves as one of the two major antagonists of this film.

01:00:03.809 --> 01:00:10.530
When deactivated, the back of the eyes are shown with the classic Whalen-Yutani logo imprinted on them.

01:00:10.530 --> 01:00:18.769
The same was featured in on Andy's eyes, a predominant synth who first appeared in 2024's Alien Romulus.

01:00:19.277 --> 01:00:20.606
Get away from me, you bitch.

01:00:21.769 --> 01:00:31.692
XX0552 is the species designation given to the dangerous beast known as the callus, which is the trophy that uh DEC is going after.

01:00:31.692 --> 01:00:36.487
And that designation is given by Whaley-Newtani Corporation.

01:00:36.487 --> 01:00:41.192
As such, it's not unlike the designation of the classic xenomorph, which is XX121.

01:00:43.003 --> 01:00:45.164
I want go back really quickly before you go on to the next one.

01:00:45.164 --> 01:01:02.891
I loved the reveal that bud was actually the baby of a callus and then as we see we'll talk about here in a moment in the post credits we see a grown-up version of bud or at least a growing up version of bud and he is slowly turning into what we saw basically this thing that Deccan and co were going after this entire movie.

01:01:02.891 --> 01:01:11.005
So it's been that really interesting And then last are a little bit of uh a note that we'll talk about here is two words power loader.

01:01:11.083 --> 01:01:11.384
Yeah.

01:01:11.384 --> 01:01:12.396
What did you think of that?

01:01:12.396 --> 01:01:15.614
I mean, I don't know if you saw it was in the trailer, which is so annoying.

01:01:15.614 --> 01:01:17.034
I wish they would have saved that.

01:01:17.034 --> 01:01:17.532
Oh, good.

01:01:17.532 --> 01:01:20.123
I'm glad because I saw it in the trailer and it was annoying.

01:01:20.125 --> 01:01:21.255
But I was curious.

01:01:21.255 --> 01:01:28.423
What were your thoughts when, whenever uh Tessa shows up in a first, not only does she have a power loader, but she also has a plasma can on her shoulder.

01:01:28.449 --> 01:02:00.141
Yeah, that like honestly like it just got more and more like the fight just got more and more badass again, that's what an incredible movie does is it just it just ascends and the battles ascend and that's exactly what happened and I didn't anticipate like any of that shit and I like I Anticipated at some point, you know deck getting his his shoulder can or getting some kind of predator predator armor some kind of something and he doesn't he's just like fuck it We ride at sunset.

01:02:00.141 --> 01:02:01.760
He gets little spit monster.

01:02:01.760 --> 01:02:03.157
He gets a little mistake.

01:02:03.157 --> 01:02:11.996
How bad a was it like he went full like he went full native and I just thought that that was the coolest thing because that truly shows.

01:02:12.137 --> 01:02:31.842
Here's the thing like I know that there was a lot of a lot of you know kind of not sure about how he was going to be be a predator in this in this role because he didn't have any of his gear he didn't have his ship and he's a short king all this stuff and to me I think they took the best route possible.

01:02:31.842 --> 01:02:36.766
that they could have chosen to make him a predator, a full bone-plinter.

01:02:36.766 --> 01:02:37.617
And that was him.

01:02:37.617 --> 01:02:40.831
okay, we'll just say that he went Arnold.

01:02:40.831 --> 01:02:41.911
He went full Dutch.

01:02:41.911 --> 01:02:48.327
oh He went full fucking Dutch and it was amazing.

01:02:48.344 --> 01:03:01.561
Yeah, I will say, we talked about this during our Killer of Killers review, that one of my biggest gripes with the Predator franchise is that they keep giving insignificant characters the opportunity to beat a Yautja in a battle.

01:03:01.561 --> 01:03:02.552
And that's, I hate that.

01:03:02.552 --> 01:03:03.722
It's one of those things.

01:03:03.722 --> 01:03:06.704
I have the same complaint about Galactus in the comics.

01:03:06.704 --> 01:03:13.347
Writers will use Galactus and a Yautja as sort of a punching bag in order to show how strong a character is.

01:03:13.347 --> 01:03:16.525
And I'm like, if we keep killing, if we keep like...

01:03:16.525 --> 01:03:27.065
using these characters as like a way of like a power gauge for other characters, then we've lost the plot on how incredibly proficient a Yautja is as a predator.

01:03:27.065 --> 01:03:31.846
I mean, know of course like Arnold takes one down in the first movie and like a predator is killed in every movie.

01:03:31.846 --> 01:03:32.744
I get that.

01:03:32.744 --> 01:03:39.445
But like Killer of Killers was a good example of this where we've got people who should not be able to go toe to toe with a predator and do.

01:03:39.445 --> 01:03:44.065
And I think what this movie does really well is that it, Deck is the antagonist.

01:03:44.065 --> 01:03:45.269
So we can root for him.

01:03:45.269 --> 01:03:46.931
and he's able to win.

01:03:47.215 --> 01:03:52.478
Usually the predator is the antagonist, so we have to sort of root against them in some way or another.

01:03:52.478 --> 01:04:19.637
Again, I mean even in movies where the Predator does win specifically aliens versus predator the first one in that it's overshadowed by humans being better than they should be You know like that should have been a movie where the predator is the only one who fucking walks away And he wasn't and so like even when the predator is the winner They're still not the best in the room and that's where they failed with aliens versus predator.

01:04:19.637 --> 01:04:22.340
That's where they failed with aliens versus predator Requiem.

01:04:22.340 --> 01:04:27.025
That's even where they failed in fucking uh the predator.

01:04:27.025 --> 01:04:27.326
Yeah.

01:04:27.326 --> 01:04:33.030
You know, And you know, as a, a yautja, when you lose, you get impregnated.

01:04:33.047 --> 01:04:33.702
You know?

01:04:33.702 --> 01:04:35.228
So stupid.

01:04:36.574 --> 01:04:38.034
Let's talk about the post credit scenes.

01:04:38.034 --> 01:04:38.773
Unless Aaron, do you want to talk?

01:04:38.773 --> 01:04:41.173
Is there anything else you want to talk about for like the actual film?

01:04:41.693 --> 01:04:42.293
What did you say?

01:04:42.293 --> 01:04:45.693
I know you said you didn't like, you don't like the fannings, but what did you think of Elle Fanning in this movie?

01:04:45.693 --> 01:04:48.313
Cause I actually found her quite charming and liked her a lot in this movie.

01:04:48.525 --> 01:05:04.186
that I actually was really surprised about was I found myself at one point again, I related to, and that's why again, I found myself enjoying the movie even more was because I related to Dex just being annoyed as fuck by her incessant talking.

01:05:04.186 --> 01:05:17.485
And so I think that they nailed it on the head with again, making Dex a relatable character with, know, again, he's angry, he's young, is is a runt, a pup.

01:05:18.222 --> 01:05:21.193
um I don't think he's arrogant.

01:05:21.193 --> 01:05:26.067
think he's just he's he's got a chip on his shoulder because he's got something to prove.

01:05:26.067 --> 01:05:29.009
But now he's also driven by revenge.

01:05:29.009 --> 01:05:37.443
And so his character growth in this, along with, you know, the growth of, you know, uh Thea is incredible.

01:05:37.443 --> 01:05:44.447
And again, I just think that they turned this into almost I don't want to call it like a Goonies film.

01:05:44.807 --> 01:05:47.068
but they turned it into like a rag.

01:05:47.068 --> 01:05:57.342
You called it earlier, buddy cop film where they, the, the, the team up is what makes the movie so good and it makes the bat.

01:05:57.342 --> 01:06:11.005
I'm just gonna say that, that entire scene where deck is attacking the whale and you tiny ship before it takes off with the callous is one of the coolest scenes I could have, I could have asked for.

01:06:11.005 --> 01:06:16.391
Like he is just raw dog and this entire fucking group of synths.

01:06:16.391 --> 01:06:26.576
And I think the thing that I wanted to talk about that we didn't talk about here was why there were so many synths and why there were not any humans on this planet.

01:06:26.576 --> 01:06:34.039
And that's what I think is honestly great about this film is because that's exactly what humans should be doing when they do have synths.

01:06:34.039 --> 01:06:40.521
They should be sending in, but I'm just gonna ask this, why the fuck do synths need ponchos?

01:06:41.043 --> 01:06:49.967
I think that Elle Fanning talked about this on the red carpet that her version of Ascent is a, they're becoming more human-like as they're experiencing emotion.

01:06:49.967 --> 01:06:55.306
That's something that I think was sort of hinted at, but not specifically highlighted in the film.

01:06:55.306 --> 01:06:55.735
Yeah.

01:06:55.735 --> 01:06:58.166
Well, they said like we're more sensitive than others.

01:06:58.226 --> 01:07:00.307
And that was the other thing is like there's certain things in here.

01:07:00.307 --> 01:07:02.619
Like there's at one point one of the male drone.

01:07:02.619 --> 01:07:06.400
I'm just going to call him a drone worker drone is like killed.

01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:09.711
Like he's he's got that acid spit on him by that creature.

01:07:09.711 --> 01:07:12.842
And it's just and he's like screaming as he dies, you know.

01:07:12.842 --> 01:07:14.853
So like that was the one thing that caught me off guard.

01:07:14.853 --> 01:07:18.335
But again, like I loved the I loved the violence.

01:07:18.335 --> 01:07:23.777
I loved the fact that and again, speaking on the fact that there are so many since.

01:07:24.018 --> 01:07:25.518
So in an interview.

01:07:25.601 --> 01:07:34.447
Dan Trachtenberg actually says that originally it was not Wailing Utani who was going to be the antagonistic corporation.

01:07:34.447 --> 01:07:45.456
The reason that it became Wailing Utani and became such a connection to the alien universe was because he needed a reason to have all of these synths, non-humans, like no humans in the movie.

01:07:45.456 --> 01:07:50.298
How are you going to have no humans in the movie, but a bunch of robots that are killed by this predator?

01:07:50.298 --> 01:07:51.679
And he's like, I got him.

01:07:51.679 --> 01:08:00.469
He said there was no other choice but to bring in uh, Waylon Yutani as this pivotal role of a corporation doing this job on this, on this planet.

01:08:00.469 --> 01:08:02.152
And I was like, okay, cool.

01:08:02.152 --> 01:08:08.940
So I love the fact that he created without wanting to really this huge connection.

01:08:08.940 --> 01:08:10.862
And I, and I, and I thought it was great.

01:08:10.862 --> 01:08:14.681
It's the first solo Predator movie to be PG-13.

01:08:14.681 --> 01:08:19.402
Obviously Alien Wars, the first one was PG-13, but this is the first solo Predator movie to be PG-13.

01:08:19.402 --> 01:08:21.242
So for that, I'm assuming for that reason.

01:08:21.242 --> 01:08:27.221
Bud in this movie, Bud, he basically does like the Wachuchu from Ace Ventura.

01:08:27.381 --> 01:08:28.481
I like you.

01:08:28.481 --> 01:08:29.782
I like you.

01:08:30.921 --> 01:08:32.546
I like you a lot.

01:08:33.269 --> 01:08:33.710
Yeah.

01:08:33.710 --> 01:08:37.336
So that's like, when I saw that I could not help but think of Ace Ventura.

01:08:37.771 --> 01:08:39.283
Let me ask you this though.

01:08:39.404 --> 01:08:51.945
When deck showed back up to confront his father, did you not at all, at least a little bit somehow think that he was, that deck was going to have this like healing ability?

01:08:52.470 --> 01:08:53.675
I didn't have that in my brain.

01:08:53.675 --> 01:08:57.506
No, but were you anticipating some kind of xenomorph upgrade or something?

01:08:57.506 --> 01:09:31.105
Well, I was just thinking that maybe because when he spit on him and brought him maybe like it got into his jeans and maybe Or the callus and that's why he was gonna be maybe able to heal and that's what it was gonna give him the upper edge So that was that was my that was the only thing I was I wanted to ask you for sure because I kind of was like I was like I'm hoping I'm hoping like I thought he was gonna the father was gonna do the same thing He's gonna like slice his arm off like he did to his brother and it would just like grow back that would've been and we all be like No, he, mean, let's, let's just go onto the post-credits scene.

01:09:31.105 --> 01:09:36.429
This be the last thing we talked about is that obviously deck returns back home to a Yautja prime.

01:09:36.429 --> 01:09:38.059
He basically confronts his father.

01:09:38.059 --> 01:09:38.668
They go at it.

01:09:38.668 --> 01:09:40.305
It's a great fight between the two.

01:09:40.305 --> 01:09:42.189
Uh, his father throws everything at him.

01:09:42.189 --> 01:09:46.270
Even he uses his cloak to go invisible and deck has that answer for him.

01:09:46.270 --> 01:09:50.002
He turns his ship on to blow up the dust and sees right through it.

01:09:50.002 --> 01:09:52.193
Uh, he has his dad on the ropes.

01:09:52.193 --> 01:09:55.264
His dad offers him an ultimatum ultimatum and basically accepts him.

01:09:55.264 --> 01:09:56.137
Finally.

01:09:56.137 --> 01:09:58.451
And deck is like, see you never cuts his head off.

01:09:58.451 --> 01:09:59.220
We're good to go.

01:09:59.220 --> 01:10:04.506
So it takes his cloak, takes a sword, takes his art, takes his, um, his plasma cannon.

01:10:04.506 --> 01:10:06.819
And he's officially a Yautja, like officially officially.

01:10:06.819 --> 01:10:09.152
That's something he says throughout the movie is like, not yet.

01:10:09.152 --> 01:10:10.422
They keep, they keep calling him a Yautja.

01:10:10.422 --> 01:10:11.604
He's like, not yet.

01:10:11.983 --> 01:10:19.010
And then on the ridge above where the clans like huts are, you start seeing swords being busted out.

01:10:19.010 --> 01:10:19.350
Yeah.

01:10:19.350 --> 01:10:19.970
Yep.

01:10:19.970 --> 01:10:25.063
And then right as the scene is about to end, we've got, uh, L fanning's, Thea character show up.

01:10:25.063 --> 01:10:31.997
of course, as I said, an older, much larger bud shows up and she is almost about half the size as her mom was in this movie.

01:10:31.997 --> 01:10:34.163
There's also been some speculation that there's a ship.

01:10:34.163 --> 01:10:37.609
Obviously there's a ship that shows up in this post credit scene and Dex says it's his mother.

01:10:37.609 --> 01:10:47.926
Uh, some have speculated that this is the same exact ship that we see in killer of killers that is carrying Ursa Kenji and John J Torres, as well as Dutch and Nauru that are in cryo stasis.

01:10:47.926 --> 01:10:48.587
So.

01:10:48.587 --> 01:10:54.358
It would be really interesting and a nice tie in if we got this fourth movie that brought all of this together.

01:10:54.358 --> 01:10:55.884
Is that something you want Aaron?

01:10:56.206 --> 01:10:57.786
I find it interesting.

01:10:57.966 --> 01:11:11.025
There's two things here that I'm like my mind that this this scene kind of caused me to two different paths that I went down after they saw this scene because the first one is he's like, oh, it's my mother.

01:11:11.225 --> 01:11:17.006
So I'm just going to tell you this background wise for for the Yautja for predator lore.

01:11:17.286 --> 01:11:21.865
There are two different versions of the lore in some versions.

01:11:21.865 --> 01:11:24.466
Female predators are actually larger.

01:11:24.738 --> 01:11:26.557
than the male predators.

01:11:26.859 --> 01:11:37.841
And so if anything, there could be some concern that she is the bigger, badder, meaner one and is going to come like, you know, get revenge and kick some ass.

01:11:37.841 --> 01:11:40.703
uh Not for her son.

01:11:41.603 --> 01:11:42.662
Gross.

01:11:42.743 --> 01:11:56.969
The other thing is the other, the other side of it, of that same discussion is that the female predators are smaller, more agile, still have like, you know, female, like, you know, have breasts, have breastplates, armor, all that stuff, but they're just faster.

01:11:56.969 --> 01:11:57.949
They're more agile.

01:11:57.949 --> 01:12:05.782
Um, so we don't, we don't know much about female predators in a, in a cinematic, uh, sense.

01:12:06.034 --> 01:12:09.826
Lions like the female lions go out and do the hunting Exactly.

01:12:09.826 --> 01:12:10.386
Exactly.

01:12:10.386 --> 01:12:14.845
And so for me, like that's where I, I'm like, I'm like curious where this is going to go.

01:12:14.845 --> 01:12:23.025
And then the other side of that is we don't even know if she is coming to like to, to fight him or gain vengeance.

01:12:23.025 --> 01:12:30.326
She could be like, well you have to stay because you're the new, I don't know, clan leader or you should be the new clan leader or something like that.

01:12:30.326 --> 01:12:32.145
She could be like proud of him.

01:12:32.145 --> 01:12:33.586
So we don't know if it's a negative thing.

01:12:33.586 --> 01:12:34.845
We don't know if it's a positive thing.

01:12:34.845 --> 01:12:38.025
We don't know if, you know, who's on the ship, who's not on the ship.

01:12:38.025 --> 01:12:40.485
So It does look very similar.

01:12:40.726 --> 01:12:44.177
We shall see what happens, but yeah, I would love to see it saying all that.

01:12:44.177 --> 01:12:49.130
I would love to see a movie where it brings all of them together.

01:12:49.130 --> 01:12:57.023
I don't know if I want to see that animated like we saw on killer of killers, or if we see it like a bit of both, it would be interesting.

01:12:57.023 --> 01:12:59.685
So I'm just going to keep my mind hopeful.

01:12:59.685 --> 01:13:11.501
I assume what's going to happen is there's going to be a completely different storyline that is going to bring everything together and there's going to be some Big ass battle maybe even going to the aliens home world.

01:13:12.021 --> 01:13:12.481
Interesting.

01:13:12.481 --> 01:13:12.903
Yeah.

01:13:12.903 --> 01:13:15.123
I I think anything can be good.

01:13:15.123 --> 01:13:25.619
And if this is done correctly, it could be fun, but for them to force the other, you know, again, Ursa Kenji, John Dutch, even like is Arnold Schwarzenegger to come back in his seventies?

01:13:25.619 --> 01:13:26.670
I don't know.

01:13:26.770 --> 01:13:29.641
And of course, Nauru, if it's done correctly, yeah, I want that.

01:13:29.641 --> 01:13:31.342
But, you know, again, not forcing it.

01:13:31.342 --> 01:13:34.604
And I, and I trust Dan Shackenberg and co to do the right thing.

01:13:34.604 --> 01:13:37.877
So, all right, Aaron, so we've talked about Badlands to death here.

01:13:37.877 --> 01:13:39.347
Final thoughts on the film.

01:13:39.565 --> 01:13:41.609
ah I mean, I'm just wow.

01:13:41.609 --> 01:13:44.853
Like I am so happy with how this turned out.

01:13:44.853 --> 01:13:47.104
I didn't, didn't, I don't know what I expected.

01:13:47.104 --> 01:13:51.591
I think I might've expected a little bit, a lot less, a lot less for sure.

01:13:51.591 --> 01:13:56.154
And I am very, very pleasantly surprised with what we got.

01:13:56.354 --> 01:13:58.034
Yeah, I think I'm in a similar boat.

01:13:58.034 --> 01:13:59.833
I wasn't sure what I was expecting.

01:13:59.833 --> 01:14:03.177
I think I was always excited because the trailer was pretty good.

01:14:03.177 --> 01:14:12.903
I guess my only reservation was that they were showing me a lot of alien stuff and it kind of felt like maybe they were supplementing for something by showing a lot of Whalen-Yutani and synthetics and so on.

01:14:12.903 --> 01:14:17.305
And again, as I saw, as I said earlier, I think it's maybe the final trailer that shows off the power loader.

01:14:17.305 --> 01:14:20.737
So that really made me nervous, but overall I had a great time with it.

01:14:20.737 --> 01:14:26.926
And as I said earlier, it was just sort of a fun ride and it's kind of funny, Aaron, it's when I think of this, this year.

01:14:26.926 --> 01:14:28.386
We've gotten a Tron movie.

01:14:28.386 --> 01:14:29.786
We've gotten a Predator movie.

01:14:29.786 --> 01:14:31.645
We've got an alien series.

01:14:31.645 --> 01:14:34.365
We've got a running man movie coming out tomorrow.

01:14:34.365 --> 01:14:34.746
Yeah.

01:14:34.746 --> 01:14:35.265
Or today.

01:14:35.265 --> 01:14:35.685
I'm sorry.

01:14:35.685 --> 01:14:36.046
I apologize.

01:14:36.046 --> 01:14:37.826
We're recording this on November 14th.

01:14:37.826 --> 01:14:39.525
What other cool things that we've gotten this year?

01:14:39.525 --> 01:14:41.506
We got a Superman movie this year.

01:14:42.326 --> 01:14:43.445
Fantastic Four, of course.

01:14:43.445 --> 01:14:43.725
Yeah.

01:14:43.725 --> 01:14:47.546
I mean, this has been a great year for for being a nerd, you know.

01:14:48.426 --> 01:14:49.286
Totally.

01:14:49.405 --> 01:14:50.105
Yeah.

01:14:50.105 --> 01:14:51.706
OK, so last thing.

01:14:51.706 --> 01:14:53.365
Second to last thing, I guess, is rating this thing.

01:14:53.365 --> 01:14:55.782
So out of five David Winer's, Aaron, what are you going to give this thing?

01:14:56.014 --> 01:14:57.291
I'm going to give it a four.

01:14:57.729 --> 01:14:58.940
Okay.

01:14:58.940 --> 01:15:03.413
was telling Olivia, as I left the theater, when I was coming home, I was like, this is really tough.

01:15:03.413 --> 01:15:07.796
Like it's either a really strong 3.5 or it's a really weak four.

01:15:08.015 --> 01:15:10.898
And I think I'm to give it a four as well.

01:15:10.898 --> 01:15:13.939
I think it's a, it's a really, it's a four on the dot.

01:15:13.939 --> 01:15:14.970
You know, it's not a weak four.

01:15:14.970 --> 01:15:17.270
It's like, it's like a, just a four, right?

01:15:17.270 --> 01:15:18.002
Yeah.

01:15:18.207 --> 01:15:20.238
up the middle for a four for me.

01:15:20.259 --> 01:15:22.739
Like it's not, it's not, this isn't great cinema.

01:15:22.739 --> 01:15:27.440
It's not like, it's not dune, you know, it's not.

01:15:28.822 --> 01:15:29.152
Yeah.

01:15:29.152 --> 01:15:29.292
Yeah.

01:15:29.292 --> 01:15:29.643
Yeah.

01:15:29.643 --> 01:15:38.685
But it's definitely a, a fun entertaining and, and, know, pardon the, the, if this is over, like overselling it, it's a great movie.

01:15:38.993 --> 01:15:39.274
Yeah.

01:15:39.274 --> 01:15:54.088
And if you're, if you like this franchise, if you, like you're like me or Aaron who loved that first movie and maybe you have a, maybe one or two other entries you like in this franchise, as I said in the beginning, it is, I think it's superpowers that it is so different from everything else in this universe.

01:15:54.088 --> 01:15:54.524
it does.

01:15:54.524 --> 01:15:55.873
Go ahead.

01:15:55.873 --> 01:15:59.351
That was just that's a gamble that could have gone either way and they nailed it.

01:15:59.351 --> 01:16:00.130
Luckily.

01:16:00.130 --> 01:16:18.060
Yeah, as I said earlier, when I was watching, I was like, this is a really interesting gamble that I need to know Aaron's thoughts on because I could have very easily, even if you thought the movie was well made, I could have very easily seeing you revolt against this movie because of how different it was to what we're used to in the Predator franchise.

01:16:18.060 --> 01:16:19.680
I am so glad that you liked it.

01:16:19.680 --> 01:16:20.890
was terrified, honestly.

01:16:20.890 --> 01:16:27.051
I was terrified because you are so good at hiding your, you know, how you're feeling about this movie.

01:16:27.233 --> 01:16:31.764
And I kept wanting to ask you, I kept wanting, like we, we, we had the, we did the grid yesterday.

01:16:31.764 --> 01:16:37.774
I'm like, or a day before yesterday, I wanted to know what you thought, but I, at the same time, I didn't want to ruin it before.

01:16:37.774 --> 01:16:43.237
So like, I'm glad I waited and I, this means a lot to me that you you give it the same rating as me.

01:16:43.237 --> 01:16:47.597
Um, because I was honestly scared that you're like, that movie sucked, you know?

01:16:47.694 --> 01:16:50.694
I mean, as we said, right down the middle floor, think it's extreme.

01:16:50.694 --> 01:16:52.833
If you're a fan of this franchise, you're going to love this movie.

01:16:52.833 --> 01:16:54.073
That's, I think that's the best way to put it.

01:16:54.073 --> 01:16:58.373
So I think the last thing Aaron, I want to do very quickly is don't think about this too hard.

01:16:58.373 --> 01:17:02.854
I just want to rank this movie in sort of the encompassing predator franchise.

01:17:02.854 --> 01:17:12.634
That includes predator predator to alien versus predator, alien versus predator, requiem, the predator predators, prey, predator killer of killers, and of course predator badlands.

01:17:12.634 --> 01:17:15.434
So I can go first if you're not ready, Aaron, or do you want to go first?

01:17:15.434 --> 01:17:16.792
Which was your knock this thing out.

01:17:16.792 --> 01:17:17.301
got it.

01:17:17.301 --> 01:17:17.676
my hair.

01:17:17.676 --> 01:17:19.175
Start from the bottom to the top.

01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:19.930
bottom.

01:17:19.930 --> 01:17:20.671
That's hard.

01:17:20.671 --> 01:17:21.341
Okay.

01:17:21.341 --> 01:17:22.021
Bottom to the top.

01:17:22.021 --> 01:17:22.311
Okay.

01:17:22.311 --> 01:17:25.894
So I'm to go with, um, aliens versus predator.

01:17:25.894 --> 01:17:26.864
Requiem is the bottom.

01:17:26.864 --> 01:17:27.475
Okay.

01:17:27.475 --> 01:17:29.777
Next up is aliens versus predator.

01:17:29.837 --> 01:17:32.717
Next up is killer of killers.

01:17:33.479 --> 01:17:34.020
Yeah.

01:17:34.020 --> 01:17:38.613
And then next after that is, I want to say it's the predator.

01:17:38.613 --> 01:17:41.984
That's the one with, uh, that we talked about with.

01:17:43.046 --> 01:17:44.006
Yeah.

01:17:45.282 --> 01:17:46.354
from 2016.

01:17:46.354 --> 01:17:46.605
Okay.

01:17:46.605 --> 01:17:49.930
So then it's predators and then we go the predator.

01:17:49.975 --> 01:17:50.176
Yep.

01:17:50.176 --> 01:17:51.012
And then we go.

01:17:51.012 --> 01:17:54.855
That's when they're on the planet and they're like, Yeah, that's that.

01:17:54.855 --> 01:17:56.318
Yeah, the predator.

01:17:56.318 --> 01:18:03.890
And then I would say prey badlands predator to predator one.

01:18:04.109 --> 01:18:04.630
Okay.

01:18:04.630 --> 01:18:05.529
All right.

01:18:05.529 --> 01:18:06.900
Not very different from mine.

01:18:06.900 --> 01:18:18.654
I would say it probably for me goes Requiem, Predators, Alien versus Predator, Predator 2 is a lot lower on my list.

01:18:19.114 --> 01:18:20.194
Yeah.

01:18:20.194 --> 01:18:28.487
The Predator, Killer of Killers, Prey, Badlands, No, sorry.

01:18:28.487 --> 01:18:31.198
Badlands, then Prey, and then Predator.

01:18:31.362 --> 01:18:31.663
Yeah.

01:18:31.663 --> 01:18:34.927
So yeah, very similar except for, except for where predator two was on that list.

01:18:34.927 --> 01:18:35.208
Wow.

01:18:35.208 --> 01:18:35.789
Shock.

01:18:35.789 --> 01:18:36.470
I don't love it.

01:18:36.470 --> 01:18:37.252
don't love it.

01:18:37.252 --> 01:18:46.827
I've tried rewatching it semi recently and I just did not, to be fair, didn't really, I don't think I gave it the shot that I needed to, but part of that was because I just wasn't really feeling it from the beginning.

01:18:48.990 --> 01:18:51.094
Yeah, I guess it's just the Glover effect.

01:18:51.875 --> 01:18:58.095
You racist son of uh That'll do it for our review of uh Predator Badlands.

01:18:58.095 --> 01:18:59.686
Again, highly recommend it as you've heard.

01:18:59.686 --> 01:19:02.279
Aaron, next week on the show, we've been putting it off long enough.

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We've holding on to this conversation for like basically a month now, but we're bringing on Kelly Sudakonic, writer of FML.

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Of course, she's done much more than that, but we brought her on to talk about FML, her and Daveive Lopez's excellent Dark Horse punk rock series.

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It's amazing.

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As I've said, Aaron, before, we had a panel at New York Comic Con just about a month ago, and I mentioned FML is like a comic for me.

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You know, absolutely love that series and absolutely love Kelly Sue and I've told you many a times and I know we it's funny.

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This is a weird tie in, but on the grid this last week, we're talking about the new galaxy trailer for Super Mario and Rosalina is being played by Brie Larson.

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And I know you kind of have like a little bit of a sour feeling towards Brie Larson.

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I think some of that has to do with Captain Marvel, which I, guess I kind of understand, but I think I have maybe the opposite effect and sort of the opposite view of Brie Larson and Captain Marvel.

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Because A, I love Captain Marvel as a character in the comics.

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And it's mostly because of Kelly Sudeconik and her very long run from the early 2010s.

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I picked up the books that you mentioned, so I'm gonna read those.

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And honestly, I have nothing against Brie Larson.

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It's honestly just like the Captain Marvel movie itself and the way that, like, to me, it just felt like a half-assed effort MCU film.

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That's the only reason.

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It's nothing with Brie Larson.

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Okay, gotcha.

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But anyway, next week again, as we said on the show will be Kelly Sudakonic.

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So join us for that.

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Aaron, take us out of here.

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We are officially done with episode 220.

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Yeah.

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And that was the last thing.

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Or we'll have a yaucha with a spitting little snake guy.

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wasn't that so sad when that thing died?

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Yeah, he sacrificed himself for the Yautja.

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Man, he was like, my treat master.

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I don't know.

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I love that.

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I love the fact that he like befriended this that we didn't talk about that at all, but that armor, the whole setup was so bad ass.

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I'm gonna go see it again.

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Fuck it.

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I'm.

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Hi, everybody.

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Thank you so much for joining us this week on the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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We will see you next week for episode two.

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Twenty.