Battle Royale VI

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Hi, this is Michael Allred, comic book creator behind titles like Madman, The Ecstatics, and Silver Surfer.

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And you are listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your host Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.

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Hello everyone and welcome to episode 193 of the Oblivion Bar podcast.

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I am Chris Hager, one of your co-hosts here and joining me is my BFF slash combatant this week, Aaron Knowles.

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Sweep the leg.

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Sweep the leg.

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to hook the wrist, walk away.

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Grab my wrist.

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My other wrist.

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You think everybody wants a frown house kick to the face when I'm wearing these bad boys?

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Go to to starlet night.

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Welcome back everybody to the Oblivion Bar podcast this week, Aaron and I, are doing our sixth installment in the Battle Royale segment.

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You may have seen from the cover art before you clicked on this episode, but just as a quick refresher, we'll do some like actual rules here in just a moment, but Battle Royales, essentially Aaron and I pick five fictional, sometimes non-fictional characters, and we have to debate on who we think would win between those two fighters.

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And there will be random scenarios and all the things again, we'll get into it in just a moment, but Aaron.

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Massive debate.

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Aaron as notoriously and famously a master debater.

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uh Best this side of the Mason-Dixon for what I understand.

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uh Mason Dicks But yeah, it's been, you know, it's funny, Aaron, when was the last time we had a Battle Royale?

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Was it like episode 90, somewhere in that range?

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I'm gonna let you look that up as I talk about it.

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But yeah, every time it's like our favorite bit here on the podcast that we, every time we do one of these, which we love doing this, this is one of our favorite segments on the show.

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Roy's like, we need to not wait so long to do another Battle Royale.

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And it just keeps getting like a longer timeframe each time.

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150 was number five.

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Okay, so not too bad.

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Only 40 episodes.

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Yeah, that's not we've got a lot of things since then, you know, talk to Robert Kirkman, David Dossmash and Lea Kilpatrick.

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Brian Kayvon, a couple of things.

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There's been a cancer in there.

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A couple of moves of retirement.

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A lot of things.

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lot of things have happened since then, but.

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of uh colonoscopies.

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I've had at least three.

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I don't know how many you've had, but I've had three.

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you know, everyone go get checked out.

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That's all we're saying.

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That's what.

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Your butthole's checked.

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Everybody's got one.

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We're big believers here at the Abloving Bar.

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Go get your butthole checked, okay?

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Get those colons cleansed.

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Every episode we say it every episode.

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Aaron, before we get into the Battle Royale, will you please let the people know if they for some reason like the first, you know, six minutes of this episode, or well, we've only been on talking for like three minutes.

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It's just a cool way to support the show because you know what?

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Yeah, it's a nice community that we've built over there.

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lot of folks have, know, Aaron, we don't get a lot of turnover on the Patreon.

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A lot of people who join it in some capacity end up sticking around.

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And we're looking at Brad Bell.

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We're looking at you.

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Appreciate everybody who comes over, whether again, it be free or ten dollars anywhere in between there, it comes to five and ten dollar tiers.

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So anything.

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In between there, we appreciate it.

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We appreciate people just listening to the show.

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But as Aaron said, we go ahead.

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What were you gonna say?

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We can say they can also give it a shot with the seven day free trial.

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just go to patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod, or you can check out the link in the show notes.

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But remember nothing beats that four letter F word free.

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oh I was thinking of another four letter F word, uh speaking of being a four letter F word the last couple of weeks.

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Fast.

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Flee.

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Fact.

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Chicago Chicago shit Aaron, the last couple of weeks, I've been moving.

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you haven't?

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haven't.

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I couldn't tell from, know, the amount of posts that you've been posting.

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Yeah, yeah, it's a it's been an endeavor.

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People who have been following the show for a bit know that I have many of books, many of posters, many of things.

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I would say just I am nothing if not a collector of things.

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And I have lots of it.

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So it's been an endeavor moved in with my partner, Olivia, who is a bright, shining light in my life.

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And it has been uh very fun, albeit sometimes stressful.

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uh It has been an endeavor and it's been.

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We're finally turning down, I'll say like it's finally happening, which is cool.

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So are you?

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You turning down for what?

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What, know, just a little side track.

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Do you have any nicknames for Olivia?

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Do call it like Olive?

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ah No, I don't think we have any nicknames quite yet.

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We've been bouncing.

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We've been floating a couple, you know, we've got like Sex Panther.

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There's Boo Boo Titty Fuck there.

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was kitty fuck.

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you're going to quote the god damn it, Chris.

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Sorry.

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I just switched it up.

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Copyright.

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know copyright.

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Wow yeah.

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Well, no, nothing yet.

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Why do you have any suggestions?

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Like I just, that feels, get on that.

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Get on that.

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Get on that.

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You need some nicknames, All right.

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Well, let's we'll I'm a ruminate.

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I'm to I'm going to take that advice.

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I'm to sit on it.

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OK, I'm to think about it.

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But before we get into the.

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Sit face sitter.

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There it is.

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We found it.

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We got a face sitter from now on.

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God no The one who sits, I don't know.

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Anyway, Aaron, let's stop deviating.

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Let's get into our battle.

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You gotta call her the Maudib.

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Yeah, yeah, what are gonna do?

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Save the dunes?

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All right, everybody, let's get into our battle royale.

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Alrighty, here we are, Battle Royale number six, Aaron.

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This is our sixth Battle Royale.

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These are always so much fun.

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Again, it's fun for us to discuss these things because we love a lot of these characters.

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We like just having a nice chat.

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I will say, selfishly, these episodes are a little bit easier to edit.

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They're a little bit more easy to just release and let people have fun with them.

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You're just happy because you fucking win more.

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I'm also leading this series thus far three to two.

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So it's up to you guys.

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Do you want to continue this streak?

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And I think you should do this obviously, but like, do you want me to continue to be the king of this segment or do you want Aaron to tie the series up three to three?

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It's totally up to you, which is sort of the fun part about this is that we will debate and decide who wins these battles individually.

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But then the week that this episode comes out, go follow us over on social media at oblivion bar pod.

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we will be posting these individual matchups and we'll be asking you, the listener and the follower, hopefully on social media, again, at Oblivion Bar Pod, who won these and your vote ultimately is what we decide.

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That's how we decide who wins these things.

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So Aaron, I want you to quickly go over our Battle Royale rules and for everyone that if you've missed one through five, we will have it in the show notes of this episode in case you want to go back and listen to those other five installments.

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But Aaron, yeah, lay out the land, tell the folks at home how We generally do this.

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Welcome to the Battle Royale.

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Here are your rules.

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The fight will take place in an arena that has indestructible walls with no cover or shields for either participant.

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The battlefield will be exactly 200 feet long and 85 feet wide, the same size as your standard professional hockey rink.

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Each fighter will only have whatever is on them based on their general inventory.

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For example, if you pick Peter Parker's Spider-Man, he would more than likely have his web shooters and his web gliders.

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They must fight to the death.

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They cannot send for reinforcements unless the battle scenario allows it.

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And there can be no ties.

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Each battle scenario will have one specific spin to the match.

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For example, the battle takes place in the dark, has a large body of water in it, or the arena has no oxygen at all.

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That's right.

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And we have quite a few different scenarios in place that we're going to be spinning our magical color wheel.

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Twenty three different scenarios that we've gathered both from previous episodes.

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So, you know, your zero gravities, your Pokemon style, Aaron, where you and I are in the stadium actually conducting these these battles like a Pokemon trainer.

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We've even done a mech type of uh fight, which will crash.

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I they'll crash to the top of that rank.

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That's generally the rule, right?

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Like they have to just keep that battle within that arena and they have to fight to the death.

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Those are like basically the two rules.

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you know, being that Aaron and are the conductor of these battles in some way or another, we have broken these rules quite a bit.

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There have been ties, but, you know, we try not to do that.

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We try to stick to the guidelines of these particular fights.

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So, Aaron, how did you set up your team?

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Did you do you just have like a set list one through five of folks that you want to see in these fights?

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or how are you going about this?

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Are you going to pick it based on?

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We're going to do the same thing we always do.

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We randomize our fighters.

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Okay, that's fair.

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All right, that's good.

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I like that.

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That's a good idea.

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Do you want to quickly just speed run through some of our previous battles?

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Yeah.

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Well, I'll tell you what you do one through three and I'll do four and five and then we'll get into our battle round number six.

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All right.

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So Battle Royale number one, I'll let you know right from the beginning.

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Chris won that one.

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Round one was was Ash Pikachu versus Master Chief.

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Round two was Silver Surfer versus Kirby.

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Round three was Kevin McAlister from Home Alone versus Clayface.

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Round four Swamp Thing versus Steve Rogers.

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Round five Tonberry versus the Doom Slayer.

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Fuck yeah.

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And then we were actually doing a couple of them.

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The first ones were six rounds and then the so that round six of that one was Predator versus Robocop.

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Battle Royale number two.

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was round one, Sean versus cable, no weapons round two, miles Morales versus Mario round three was Dr.

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Who versus King shark round four was Voldemort versus Dracula round five was Mando versus Joker round six was Chris, Chris Redfield versus squirrel girl.

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Uh, and then we had battle.

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I just want to say you and in battle round number two round one was Sean from Sean of the dead.

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So that was Simon Pegg's Simon Pegg's character.

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Yes Yes.

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I should have clarified that my bad.

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Yeah.

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Round or battle round number three was round one, Vincent Valentine versus the green ranger round two, the comedian versus Bowser round three was future trunks versus Sephiroth round four night wing versus night wing Dick Grayson versus a xenomorph and round five was Beatrix kiddo from the bra or excuse me from kill bill.

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She was the bride versus optimist prime.

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One of the more lopsided uh scenarios we've ever had.

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I will say that of all of these scenarios you just listed out, the one that has still haunted me to this day that I lost was the future trunks versus Seth Roth, which I get, you Seth Roth is the, do they call them?

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Like the winged angel or something like that.

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uh But future trunks, I mean, come on, he's got the freaking the same blade.

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And I don't know.

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Anyway, I just, that was also Aaron's first win was battle right on number three.

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So Going into Battle Royale number four, we have a Weeping Angel versus Pikachu.

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We have Raphael from the TMNT versus Tony Stark.

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I think in that one there was no gadgets, no weapons.

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So it was just Tony Stark.

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It wasn't him in his suit or anything.

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uh Round number three, had Blanca from Street Fighter versus Samus Aran.

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We had in round four, had Weapon X, Laura Kenny versus Slimer from the Ghostbusters franchise.

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And then round five, we had Darth Vader versus a Gundam Wing.

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So I won about around number four and then going into our most going into most recent battle right on number five.

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Aaron, you won this one.

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It was the mighty Thor, Jane Foster versus the mask.

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somebody stop me.

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We have the.

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But you said freeze.

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We have the Punisher versus Hellboy.

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We have Aaron Knowles making his first appearance in the Battle Royale versus Hal Jordan's Green Lantern.

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We have peacemaker versus peacemaker.

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That was one we both picked peacemaker, which is funny because he's now shown up in Mortal Kombat and he's got, you know, multiple suits.

00:15:27.394 --> 00:15:28.144
did that first.

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Everybody is always.

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And then the last round, round five was a gun Targaryen and versus Godzilla, which sounds like a good fight.

00:15:37.111 --> 00:15:44.980
And it was because I ended up bringing in Beleri and the Black Dread in that fight, even though Godzilla, think Godzilla handedly won that battle.

00:15:44.980 --> 00:15:51.543
It was still cool to see the largest dragon in Game of Thrones versus Mrs.

00:15:51.543 --> 00:15:52.533
Godzilla, right?

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We're out.

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We're confirming that Godzilla is a girl, correct?

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You prepared to confirm that here on.

00:15:58.712 --> 00:15:59.356
not.

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I'm not.

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am not at liberty to.

00:16:02.618 --> 00:16:03.958
Not deny.

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All right, Aaron.

00:16:04.808 --> 00:16:06.909
Well, what do you say we just go ahead and get into?

00:16:06.909 --> 00:16:10.341
Well, actually, is there anything you want to reflect on on those previous battles or anything?

00:16:10.341 --> 00:16:10.798
No.

00:16:10.798 --> 00:16:14.567
I to to this ass whooping that you're about to get.

00:16:15.149 --> 00:16:16.080
We've got to open a can.

00:16:16.080 --> 00:16:18.991
I should have brought a can to open right now for a can of whoop ass.

00:16:20.312 --> 00:16:25.394
All right, Aaron, let's go ahead and get into let me get my music ready.

00:16:25.716 --> 00:16:27.136
Battle number one, Aaron.

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Let's go ahead and spin our wheel for our scenario.

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oh Come on, ditty time.

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We have...

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Normal battle.

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Yep, normal battle.

00:16:41.739 --> 00:16:42.789
So is a normal battle.

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Nothing crazy.

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And Aaron, do you want to tell your first fight or do want me to go first?

00:16:47.244 --> 00:16:50.057
I'm about to spin my, cause I put mine in a wheel also.

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Let's see.

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My first fighter is Spawn.

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made you.

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Fine, I need a scarecrow.

00:17:13.789 --> 00:17:16.369
You're be my personal message board.

00:17:16.670 --> 00:17:21.289
I want everyone to see what happens when they come here uninvited.

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Oh good choice good choice all right and my first fighter is Nemesis from Resident Evil 3 So William Birkin versus and I don't know why I'm spacing spawns actual name in the comics, but uh Al Simmons.

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Simmons.

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Yeah, Al Simmons, of course, famously created by Tom McFarlane over Image Comics.

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He was the very first character in the image universe when they when those five creators or five or six creators branched off to make Image Comics.

00:18:13.521 --> 00:18:18.516
Aaron, talk a little bit about Spawn and why you decided to pick him for this battle.

00:18:18.516 --> 00:18:24.288
Well, I'll tell you why I chose Spawn because he just fucking badass, know.

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Kids love chains.

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KLC, buddy.

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Yeah.

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Well, I mean, obviously, we if you've seen the movie or you've seen the show on HBO, you've read the comics, you kind of know the background.

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Al Simmons was a professional hitman assassin, whatever you want to call him.

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Merck, you know, and he was betrayed by his boss.

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And basically kind of sold to the devil to become a general in the hell's war on, you know, earth and the angels.

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And so, you know, he's brought back after several years to the world.

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The world is in disarray and he's given this, you know, suit that's basically like a living kind of almost entity in and of itself.

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Think, think, bad, was it Dr.

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Strange's cape, but like all over his body kind of.

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A certain, you know, spawns body is pretty dense.

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So he's got, he's, weighs over 450 pounds.

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It's almost completely comprised of necroplasm.

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This gives him superhuman strength, speed, durability.

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So he kind of has like a little bit of uh some internal organs, but they're not really functioning because he is pretty much dead.

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So cause he is a hell spawn, but he knows like all types of like almost every type of uh martial arts fighting style.

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clarify that this is the comic version or is this the live action Michael J White version?

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Personally, I don't discern, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with comic version.

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He's got vast magical powers as well.

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Each time, each time Spawn uses energy though, he does drain a little bit of time that he has left in his body.

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was that was kind of my first sort of instinct when you said spawn is that famously spawn has that ticker, you know, where his powers eventually drain.

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So it's to be really important for nemesis.

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I think this is more of a durability match up for nemesis than anything.

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I mean, I think we'll get into nemesis in just a moment.

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I just want to talk a little bit more about spawn.

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Just more is like a fan is that like if you are alive and loving comics in the 90s, you couldn't turn your head without running into a spawn poster or comic.

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or T-shirt.

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mean, Tom McFarland, he obviously had his mitts on all of that.

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You know, it's it's kind of crazy to think how much one character or one creator could really popularize an entire medium.

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You had Rob Liefeld and Tom McFarland doing gene commercials for Levi's in the 90s.

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That's how big they were on late night television.

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Yeah.

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You know, it's crazy to think that they had this much power.

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And again, I think Spahn is the poster child for the speculator speculator boom of the 90s.

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Yeah, he's so iconic as being kind of the, I'm just going to say he's considered like a link between when comics were becoming more popular, when you have like cartoon shows ah and bringing them to the mainstream because of his dark, dark nature of, know, again, like a lot of people don't go back and look at like Ninja Turtles and how they started off with some very dark themes and messages.

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And now, you know, like, fast forward to like, you know, mid nineties and you got spawn and his books and it's very, it's very, uh, corrupt cops.

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It's very, you know, streets are overrun with drugs and murder and violence.

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And the only person who's out there is not, not your, your sensible Batman type.

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It's, it's a hell spawn who's out there like killing people.

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Right, exactly.

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OK, let's move on to my participant, which is Nemesis.

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Nemesis T-type from the Resident Evil 3, 1999 Resident Evil 3.

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Aaron, when I tell you the video game.

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Yeah, we're going to talk about it.

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not movie nemesis.

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Got it.

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Right.

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Not the one that's getting karate chopped and kicked in the face by Milya Jovovich and not the guy who got, I guess he got like a scratch from a liquor in the first movie.

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I can't remember exactly how, how that worked out, but he gets pulled away at the end of the movie whenever she eventually gets trapped in there's underground.

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But point being is that in this version of the, you know, of Nemesis, Aaron, when I tell you that this character had such a vice grip on my love of the Resident Evil series.

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I very vividly remember playing Resident Evil 2 and then eventually actually Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 very much are like copacetic in my brain when I think about Resident Evil.

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Like in my headcanon, those games came out at the same exact time because I was playing them at the same exact time.

00:22:47.070 --> 00:22:50.953
So uh Nemesis, of course, there's that, what does he say?

00:22:50.953 --> 00:22:52.534
Stars.

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know, the beginning, you click Resident Evil, you press start and you have Nemesis stars.

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And you just hear him.

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And I think it's so crazy.

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I now.

00:23:01.741 --> 00:23:02.501
I haven't played the remake.

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Have you played the Resident Evil 3 remake from 2020?

00:23:05.781 --> 00:23:06.942
OK, I haven't either.

00:23:06.942 --> 00:23:08.382
I've heard it's decent.

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It's definitely I've heard it's not as good as two and it's not as good as four, but it's like fine, which if you look at like sort of the larger picture of Resident Evil in that time frame, I think one is like sort of revered, even though it's slightly flawed to.

00:23:22.761 --> 00:23:28.622
I think most people really love three is maybe usually the people like it, but don't love it.

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And then Resident Evil 4 is usually a lot of people's favorite.

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And I think that sort of stayed true with the remakes as well.

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But in terms of Nemesis as a character, I think one thing they did really cool with the remake is they had him just sort of walk around the map at all.

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Like he'll just show up and beating your ass in this new game.

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Whereas like in the older games, he would also follow you.

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But it's like it was contained to an area.

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And I think what's really important about Nemesis, I mean.

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If you've played Resident Evil, you kind of understand what his deal is.

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He has sort of a T 1000 Terminator two type of indestructible giant guy that you hit a couple of times, but in reality, he's never really going to die.

00:24:09.445 --> 00:24:11.425
Like he's not, he's not dying.

00:24:11.425 --> 00:24:12.546
You know what mean?

00:24:12.746 --> 00:24:15.306
So, uh, Aaron, what do you know about Nemesis?

00:24:15.306 --> 00:24:17.905
Just like overall stars.

00:24:19.263 --> 00:24:24.046
I just know that he's kind of like this big lumbering, imposing character.

00:24:24.046 --> 00:24:29.048
You know, he's just like carrying around a giant rocket launcher all the time.

00:24:29.048 --> 00:24:41.405
And I know that he has like a, like a limiter on like in him some, I don't know if it's like a biological or if it's like a technological like limiter, because if they, if that gets removed or damaged, he'll start to mutate out of control.

00:24:41.405 --> 00:24:43.856
Yeah.

00:24:44.817 --> 00:24:45.678
Yeah.

00:24:45.980 --> 00:24:46.922
So this is interesting.

00:24:46.922 --> 00:24:57.308
We basically have a walking, I guess, saying one word talking mutate versus a literal spawn pun intended of hell.

00:24:57.669 --> 00:24:59.240
Aaron, what is Spawn's first move here?

00:24:59.240 --> 00:25:01.042
When he sees Nemesis, they pop into the arena together.

00:25:01.042 --> 00:25:02.163
That's a lot of preamble, by the way.

00:25:02.163 --> 00:25:04.365
We won't won't preamble every battle like that.

00:25:04.365 --> 00:25:05.876
At least I don't think so.

00:25:05.876 --> 00:25:08.268
What is Spawn's first move when he sees Nemesis?

00:25:09.134 --> 00:25:15.834
I think it's kind of to, know, obviously Al Simmons is a trained like military mind.

00:25:15.834 --> 00:25:16.773
He's quick thinking.

00:25:16.773 --> 00:25:22.773
Plus, you know, the fact that he has the hell spawn, his intelligence is heightened.

00:25:22.773 --> 00:25:24.153
All of his, you know, what do you call it?

00:25:24.153 --> 00:25:26.634
Like his reflexes, everything is heightened.

00:25:26.634 --> 00:25:35.153
And so I feel like he's going to kind of be immediately kind of go into like defensive mode and start like assessing his enemy.

00:25:35.153 --> 00:25:38.383
So he's going to start figuring out like, okay, Who is this guy?

00:25:38.383 --> 00:25:41.521
He probably has like some guns, you know, like on him.

00:25:41.521 --> 00:25:54.349
Uh, so he's probably like shoot, you know, probably like move around a little bit, start shooting at him cause he knows he's the enemy and he's going to start like, again, assessing this guy, accessing this, this assessing this wall of, of, of a monster for weakness.

00:25:54.349 --> 00:25:55.430
Mm Yeah.

00:25:55.430 --> 00:25:57.430
And then, like you said, of course, it's interesting.

00:25:57.430 --> 00:26:02.029
They both have this like power limiter in a sense, right?

00:26:02.029 --> 00:26:08.390
Like literally in Nemesis is in his arena, but also spawn with his time frame.

00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:10.690
So, yeah, this is interesting.

00:26:10.690 --> 00:26:20.289
I think what ends up happening is that spawn notices what Nemesis is immediately because he's familiar with the the unorthodox sort of demon like character.

00:26:20.289 --> 00:26:22.150
He knows that quite well, I think.

00:26:22.150 --> 00:26:27.163
And Nemesis is a blind He's a blind, just straightforward attack kind of guy.

00:26:27.163 --> 00:26:31.463
So obviously it's really, it's a battle of wits versus a battle of durability.

00:26:31.463 --> 00:26:36.884
You know, if Spawn could get in there quickly and kill him, can kill Nemesis, it's a quick fight.

00:26:36.925 --> 00:26:49.148
But I think if somehow, and I think Nemesis, this is something that I think is uh quite good for Nemesis is that he, again, if we're speaking like in terms of the video game logic, every time you hit him, he just sort of falls, right?

00:26:49.148 --> 00:26:50.628
And he gets right back up.

00:26:50.628 --> 00:26:53.526
Yeah, you can shoot him with a rocket launcher in that game and he doesn't die.

00:26:53.526 --> 00:26:58.166
I he's pretty durable overall, but he can be killed at the end.

00:26:58.166 --> 00:26:59.857
He also has like a I don't know.

00:26:59.857 --> 00:27:03.128
Did you ever play like the oh shoot?

00:27:03.128 --> 00:27:12.090
think it was Resident Evil had like some like side stories or they were like secret secret levels to it or extra hard version or something like that.

00:27:12.090 --> 00:27:15.071
They had a tyrant is what his name was.

00:27:15.771 --> 00:27:20.153
I think that was supposed to be like what Nemesis eventually was going to become right.

00:27:20.153 --> 00:27:21.771
And it's the same thing with him.

00:27:21.771 --> 00:27:22.692
That's a weird sidebar.

00:27:22.692 --> 00:27:27.871
I don't really have anything to build off with that, but I just thought it was interesting that both of those characters are pretty durable.

00:27:27.871 --> 00:27:28.962
So what's your impulse here, Aaron?

00:27:28.962 --> 00:27:30.213
What do you think?

00:27:30.255 --> 00:27:33.650
Does Spawn have it in him with his chains and his fire?

00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:35.362
He has like fire powers, doesn't he?

00:27:35.362 --> 00:27:45.346
Yeah, so he can do so that is that is one thing that I do know that nemesis t-type is weak to is explosions.

00:27:45.346 --> 00:27:52.409
And so I know that the health spawn does have the ability to create fire, create explosions.

00:27:52.409 --> 00:27:54.470
He also has his cape.

00:27:54.470 --> 00:28:02.093
So his cape is again, almost just like the doctor strange is, I guess, cape or whatever you call it.

00:28:02.093 --> 00:28:02.952
Cloak levitation.

00:28:02.952 --> 00:28:04.534
So it is it has.

00:28:04.534 --> 00:28:06.655
it does at times have a mind of its own.

00:28:06.655 --> 00:28:09.798
So it's able to camouflage spawn.

00:28:09.798 --> 00:28:13.742
It's able to engage or like encapsulate enemies.

00:28:13.742 --> 00:28:14.944
It's able to protect him.

00:28:14.944 --> 00:28:16.546
It's able to help him fly.

00:28:16.546 --> 00:28:18.696
You know, I honestly think that you're right.

00:28:18.696 --> 00:28:23.490
This is this is a pretty open and close type of case here.

00:28:23.651 --> 00:28:27.133
Unfortunately, Nemesis is only one of his only weaknesses is fire.

00:28:27.133 --> 00:28:33.917
And it just so happens that spawn one of his main one of his main like attacks is fire related because he comes from hell.

00:28:33.917 --> 00:28:36.059
So in my opinion, this is over.

00:28:36.059 --> 00:28:38.480
think spawn comes in pretty quick.

00:28:38.480 --> 00:28:45.986
He sort of nooses him up with his chains and therefore Nemesis has nothing left to do.

00:28:45.986 --> 00:28:52.932
I mean, I think maybe he's able to break out of one set and maybe get a rocket launcher shot off or maybe do a couple of punches here and there, do a kick.

00:28:52.932 --> 00:28:59.978
But outside of that, uh think Spawn has this pretty much wrapped up as long as he's able to take care of this quickly.

00:29:00.301 --> 00:29:09.960
I think um I'm going to agree with you and the only thing that I can think of is yes, I believe that the spawn, you know, like this, it's like, it's like a symbiotes.

00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:10.891
So it's almost like venom.

00:29:10.891 --> 00:29:15.153
ah But I will say this, that there, does have a weakness as well to explosion.

00:29:15.153 --> 00:29:29.945
So the only thing I would say is like, if there is a possibility of the nemesis getting off a rocket shot in time, which I, that's the only thing I don't think is he's, I don't think he's quick enough to beat bonds speed.

00:29:30.188 --> 00:29:31.523
Yeah, I agree.

00:29:31.523 --> 00:29:32.267
Okay.

00:29:32.267 --> 00:29:35.616
So round one goes to spawn.

00:29:35.837 --> 00:29:38.413
So Yes.

00:29:38.413 --> 00:29:38.993
All right.

00:29:38.993 --> 00:29:39.773
Fucking go.

00:29:39.773 --> 00:29:40.173
All right.

00:29:40.173 --> 00:29:40.574
All right.

00:29:40.574 --> 00:29:41.433
All right.

00:29:41.953 --> 00:29:43.074
You've been there before, Aaron.

00:29:43.074 --> 00:29:45.493
I don't act like don't act like you haven't won before.

00:29:45.493 --> 00:29:46.773
I'm just kidding.

00:29:46.933 --> 00:29:47.493
All right.

00:29:47.493 --> 00:29:49.634
Let's go into our second battle here.

00:29:49.634 --> 00:29:56.314
We got the wheel spinning and we have calls for two reinforcements.

00:29:56.314 --> 00:29:57.453
All right.

00:29:57.453 --> 00:30:00.854
So, Aaron, I'll go and give my first fighter here.

00:30:00.854 --> 00:30:01.554
We're spinning.

00:30:01.554 --> 00:30:02.594
We're spinning.

00:30:02.913 --> 00:30:10.030
And my first combat or sorry, my second combatant here in battle on number six is Bader Ray Bill from Marvel.

00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.517
nearly toppled Crown City prepare yourselves for...

00:30:25.942 --> 00:30:27.699
Aaron, who is your second fighter?

00:30:28.219 --> 00:31:02.757
Judge Dredd uh All right, Judge Jed from the 2000 AD universe.

00:31:02.757 --> 00:31:03.307
Yes.

00:31:03.307 --> 00:31:13.182
OK, so let me talk a little bit about Beta Ray Bill here, because I think amongst the comic readers, you know, the ones that know no kind of people, they've been clamoring for a beta ray bill.

00:31:13.182 --> 00:31:16.884
Now, of course, Daniel Warren Johnson had a pretty great run a couple of years ago.

00:31:16.884 --> 00:31:20.246
want to say it was in twenty twenty one is when Beta Ray Bill came out.

00:31:20.246 --> 00:31:21.576
So clearly we're fans.

00:31:21.576 --> 00:31:27.693
We've we've obviously talked to Daniel Warren Johnson about this series, but he was, you know, Beta Ray Bill was created in 1983.

00:31:27.693 --> 00:31:33.614
His first appearance was in Mighty Thor 3 37, of course, written and drawn by Walt Simonson.

00:31:33.614 --> 00:31:37.453
Basically what happens, Aaron, have you ever read Mighty Thor 3 37?

00:31:38.314 --> 00:31:39.653
It's an iconic book, man.

00:31:39.653 --> 00:32:01.342
It's one of those books that you like if someone's trying to get into Marvel Comics or just get into comics in general, I think this would be a great representation of what's cool about the Marvel universe is because what Walt Simonson does so well is he just throws this random horse looking character and just has this character grab Mjolnir from Odin's son.

00:32:01.342 --> 00:32:11.557
And you're like, how in the world is this, you know, this hammer, as many people know, Mjolnir is only be is only able to be picked up by like Odin, Odin's son.

00:32:11.557 --> 00:32:12.374
I don't remember.

00:32:12.374 --> 00:32:16.063
I don't have like the complete Thor history locked away in my membrane.

00:32:16.063 --> 00:32:20.846
But I think I'm pretty sure it's like one or three characters, one to three characters that could pick up Mjolnir.

00:32:20.846 --> 00:32:24.790
All of sudden, this random character just out of nowhere comes and picks it up and they have this fight.

00:32:24.790 --> 00:32:26.912
It's obviously a misunderstanding.

00:32:27.018 --> 00:32:30.821
But what you eventually find out is that, you know, Bayre Bill is a Corbinite.

00:32:30.821 --> 00:32:35.655
He was basically genetically modified in order to be like their champion, the Corbinites.

00:32:35.655 --> 00:32:40.950
Because if you look at Bayre Bill and you look at the rest of the Corbinites, they look wildly different.

00:32:40.950 --> 00:32:42.882
Like, Corbinites have like no nose.

00:32:42.882 --> 00:32:50.412
They're like kind of round and they've got little beady eyes and they just look like normal aliens almost a little bit brown, like brown aliens.

00:32:50.412 --> 00:32:52.587
Yeah, they look like, yeah, they look weird.

00:32:52.587 --> 00:32:54.778
Yeah, but obviously, better a bill looks like a horse.

00:32:54.778 --> 00:32:55.608
He's like a horse man.

00:32:55.608 --> 00:32:59.039
He's got he's you know, he's got like his Thor get up.

00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:01.000
He looks very much Thor esque.

00:33:01.200 --> 00:33:08.582
And he also carries, you know, after that issue, he eventually gets Stormbreaker, which in the movies we've seen Stormbreaker, but that's not the same Stormbreaker that.

00:33:10.123 --> 00:33:16.013
Yeah, well, I would say that Alan the alien is like Beta Ray Bill, but yes, like they're.

00:33:16.013 --> 00:33:18.105
That archetype is very yes, you're so right.

00:33:18.105 --> 00:33:19.805
They're very similar in that way.

00:33:19.805 --> 00:33:22.155
So uh again, I think for like.

00:33:22.155 --> 00:33:28.878
Simplicity purposes, let's just say Bayre Bill, basically Thor, but with a whore face, whore face, horse face.

00:33:29.201 --> 00:33:31.324
A horse face.

00:33:31.766 --> 00:33:34.130
So Aaron, talk a little bit about Judge Dredd.

00:33:34.443 --> 00:33:36.064
go back and I was doing some research.

00:33:36.064 --> 00:33:43.936
So I got lost on my, you know, during my research because unfortunately judge Dredd does not have any superpowers.

00:33:46.738 --> 00:33:49.258
he has the law on his side.

00:33:49.258 --> 00:33:51.159
That is about it.

00:33:51.259 --> 00:34:09.068
So judge Dredd is a street judge from a not so distant, but probably kind of distant, but also not so distant future where the world has kind of I don't think they're real, at least not that I know that they discussed it, but like there's no like apocalyptic event.

00:34:09.068 --> 00:34:14.693
It's just, this is what society has de-evolved into fighting over resources, fighting over space.

00:34:14.693 --> 00:34:22.900
Everybody lives in these mega cities because you know, everything else around the mega cities are now just endless deserts that are, you know, wastelands.

00:34:22.900 --> 00:34:25.391
So they literally live in what's called the scorched earth.

00:34:25.391 --> 00:34:28.403
So it could be the sun, it could be the environment, it could be whatever.

00:34:28.403 --> 00:34:31.190
um But Judge Red is a...

00:34:31.190 --> 00:34:37.856
He has a law enforcement agent of this new type of society where there's too many people in prisons.

00:34:37.856 --> 00:34:39.327
There's too many people on the planet.

00:34:39.327 --> 00:34:40.818
There's too many people fucking around.

00:34:40.818 --> 00:34:49.226
So the only answer is to make one person who's out there judge during executioner and you get judges like judge Dredd who judge Joseph Dredd is the number one.

00:34:49.226 --> 00:34:51.047
He is the best of all time.

00:34:51.327 --> 00:34:58.824
I would have to go more into the depth of his story because there's stories where he is a genetically engineered.

00:34:59.139 --> 00:35:02.052
There's one where he is, he's like a clone.

00:35:02.052 --> 00:35:05.778
There's ones where he is, he's a robot and there's not just Judge Dredd.

00:35:05.778 --> 00:35:11.257
There's obviously many other, but you have like Judge Death, some of his opponents, you know, you got some crazy.

00:35:11.257 --> 00:35:20.050
And I think what like just to sort of build on that, I think like Judge Dredd, what they were trying to do over at 2000 AD, you know, of course this, was a judge.

00:35:20.050 --> 00:35:22.681
I was created by John Wagner and Carlos X Cara.

00:35:22.681 --> 00:35:40.726
I I'm probably saying his name incorrectly, but what they were trying to do is that this sort of militarization of the law at that time, you know, this was around 19 in the late 1970s, early eighties where It was Reagan's America and nationalism was becoming much more of a thing, not only in America, but everywhere.

00:35:40.726 --> 00:35:45.570
Of course, 2008D takes place over across the pond over in the UK.

00:35:45.570 --> 00:35:49.873
that sort of like the culture was becoming more prevalent everywhere in the world.

00:35:49.873 --> 00:35:59.239
And I think what Judge Dredd initially was, was this sort of satire on that idea of like nationalism and a militarization of our police.

00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:03.681
And what was initially created as like a pastiche of that idea.

00:36:03.775 --> 00:36:08.668
slowly morphed into this through bad can do good kind of idea.

00:36:08.668 --> 00:36:11.431
You know, if that makes sense, at least I hope.

00:36:11.431 --> 00:36:15.173
And I'm not like the again, the end I'll be all when it comes to Judge Dredd.

00:36:15.173 --> 00:36:16.614
I'm a fan of the character.

00:36:16.614 --> 00:36:20.918
But from what I understand, he is sort of a bad guy that does good things.

00:36:20.918 --> 00:36:24.298
You know, is that is that kind of what your view is on the character as well?

00:36:25.380 --> 00:36:27.121
Or maybe a good guy that does bad things.

00:36:27.121 --> 00:36:28.012
Yeah.

00:36:28.617 --> 00:36:29.378
Okay.

00:36:29.378 --> 00:36:32.621
So this is all about perspective.

00:36:32.621 --> 00:36:48.934
Again, like his character was created to be a representation, like just like you said, of, you know, a militaristic government where you have to, you really have to kind of bend your, your thought process to fit into the perspective of people living in that society.

00:36:48.934 --> 00:36:58.166
You know, that was a necessary evil that the government felt was the best course of action because things were going to hell on the streets.

00:36:58.166 --> 00:36:59.166
So what do you do?

00:36:59.166 --> 00:37:00.958
You don't make decisions that people are going to like.

00:37:00.958 --> 00:37:03.572
You don't just let people go and do with it then they're going to kill each other.

00:37:03.572 --> 00:37:12.320
At least if you have somebody who represents the law, like again, judge, jury, executioner, then you have like somebody who's out there who is the person to blame.

00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:19.108
But you have this, you have this like pivotal like epitome of the law, like judge dread who never shows his face.

00:37:19.108 --> 00:37:21.867
He is the faceless hand of the law.

00:37:21.867 --> 00:37:23.159
Yeah, absolutely.

00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:25.751
You were talking earlier about like, why is this earth?

00:37:25.751 --> 00:37:27.853
Why is mega city one the way it is?

00:37:27.853 --> 00:37:37.875
And from my understanding, if I remember this correctly, and everyone, you're listening to this right now, I could be totally misquoting here, but I think this world takes a lot of responsibility.

00:37:37.875 --> 00:37:42.637
A lot of responsibility of the humans in this world were, sort of left to like AI and robots.

00:37:42.637 --> 00:37:45.800
And that's why eventually people were left without jobs.

00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:55.237
Uh, you know, we're again, as Aaron sort of jokingly said earlier, we're inching ever so closer to this idea of like cheap labor going to robots.

00:37:55.237 --> 00:38:01.050
Therefore the humans of the world kind of have to lie, cheat and steal in order to get what they want.

00:38:01.050 --> 00:38:04.661
And then of course you have your militarization of the law.

00:38:04.661 --> 00:38:10.211
So, okay, in this scenario, again, a lot of preamble, but in this scenario we have two reinforcements.

00:38:10.293 --> 00:38:11.802
I already know who my two reinforcements are.

00:38:11.802 --> 00:38:13.954
Aaron, who are your, do you know who your two reinforcements are?

00:38:13.954 --> 00:38:22.251
um Spoilers, my two reinforcements are two previous combatants in our previous games.

00:38:24.311 --> 00:38:26.896
I'm going to go with yes, he does know.

00:38:26.896 --> 00:38:28.545
you asking what, who they are?

00:38:28.545 --> 00:38:31.449
Yes, I'm asking who are you going to nominate as his two reinforcements?

00:38:31.449 --> 00:38:33.291
Judge Judge two reinforcements.

00:38:33.353 --> 00:38:37.228
Is it Carl Urban and Sylvester Stallone just as themselves?

00:38:37.422 --> 00:38:44.952
I was just going to say it's going to be uh Heela, uh Hella, is that Hella and Sertr from the MCU.

00:38:44.952 --> 00:38:49.307
uh Just who does car replay on the boys?

00:38:49.307 --> 00:38:50.884
Whoever he is, you just have him.

00:38:50.884 --> 00:38:51.818
Billy Butcher.

00:38:51.818 --> 00:38:52.751
Butcher.

00:38:52.996 --> 00:38:55.905
Billy Butch- right.

00:38:56.346 --> 00:38:56.525
Okay.

00:38:56.525 --> 00:39:00.106
Mine is just going to be silver surfer and Odinson.

00:39:01.226 --> 00:39:07.025
So, cause you know, again, they are his, I would say those are two of his closest friends in this universe.

00:39:07.025 --> 00:39:17.826
know, Mayday Bill is a little bit of a loner as is those two other characters, but when they have, when they're up against it, it seems like those three are kind of in like each other's corner, right?

00:39:17.826 --> 00:39:20.865
Like, there's, they're often teaming up.

00:39:21.126 --> 00:39:23.222
So, Is there anything you want to say about?

00:39:23.222 --> 00:39:25.021
mean, again, I talked about Stormbreaker.

00:39:25.021 --> 00:39:28.242
It's basically just think Mjolnir, but a giant hammer, a gold hammer.

00:39:28.242 --> 00:39:28.621
Right.

00:39:28.621 --> 00:39:31.333
You want to talk about lawgiver at all for Judge Dredd?

00:39:31.501 --> 00:39:34.922
I mean, his lawgiver, there's not really much to say about it.

00:39:35.824 --> 00:39:39.815
Gun that has the gun with many settings.

00:39:39.815 --> 00:39:47.829
OK, so he's got it's got the general purpose armor piercing rubber ricochet incendiary grenade heat seeker.

00:39:48.081 --> 00:39:51.099
I mean, depends again, like we're talking comic version here.

00:39:51.099 --> 00:39:54.010
So you're not getting like double whammy.

00:39:56.733 --> 00:39:58.652
I said hot shot.

00:40:00.547 --> 00:40:01.460
Well, let's see what else.

00:40:01.460 --> 00:40:03.150
ah you have anything else in his arsenal?

00:40:03.150 --> 00:40:06.568
again, I think for these purposes, Silver Server comes in with Justice Board.

00:40:06.568 --> 00:40:09.358
ah You know, Odin's son has just Mjolnir.

00:40:09.358 --> 00:40:14.458
Oh, it's bored in the cause and the power cosmic fucking a yes.

00:40:14.458 --> 00:40:30.914
mean, so Judge Dredd, mostly his stuff is lawgiver a scatter gun arbitrator, which is a pump action shotgun with several types of ammo and shot shells, shotgun shells, standard slugs, armor piercing, ricochet slugs, incendiary slugs that are, you know, pyrochemicals.

00:40:30.914 --> 00:40:36.018
High explosive, heat seager, a Widowmaker 2000, which is an automatic shotgun.

00:40:36.018 --> 00:40:41.581
He's got a stub gun, which is a two-handed laser rifle that can shoot through any material, by the way.

00:40:41.581 --> 00:40:48.184
A day stick, a boot knife, stun grenades, and of course his law master, which is his motorcycle.

00:40:48.184 --> 00:40:49.054
Sure.

00:40:49.054 --> 00:40:54.650
um Any, any particular weapons that you're to co-combatants?

00:40:54.650 --> 00:40:59.945
Did you really want to just pick two Carl Urban characters or was there somebody else in the Judge Dredd universe that you wanted to pick with him?

00:41:00.246 --> 00:41:03.579
If I'm going to bring anybody from the, it's going to be like one of those war robots.

00:41:03.579 --> 00:41:04.501
Yep.

00:41:04.603 --> 00:41:06.389
And probably judge death.

00:41:06.389 --> 00:41:07.652
Okay, all right.

00:41:07.652 --> 00:41:11.036
What's Judge, what do you, how much do know about Judge, Judge Death?

00:41:11.036 --> 00:41:15.391
I've seen many pictures by of him, but I don't really know anything about the character.

00:41:15.768 --> 00:41:17.800
So he's actually just like an alien.

00:41:17.800 --> 00:41:18.460
Okay.

00:41:18.460 --> 00:41:20.722
But he's the founder of the Dark Judges.

00:41:20.722 --> 00:41:28.418
he's like, Nega Dread, you know, like he's like the arch enemy to Judge Dread and Judge Anderson, is his his psychic partner.

00:41:28.418 --> 00:41:29.849
I think we're kind of spinning our wheels here.

00:41:29.849 --> 00:41:35.155
Is there anything that Judge Dredd and co can do against the power cause team team power cosmic?

00:41:35.155 --> 00:41:37.809
No, this is this is I'm yeah.

00:41:37.809 --> 00:41:38.882
No, I'm done.

00:41:38.882 --> 00:41:40.844
I'm dead.

00:41:40.844 --> 00:41:42.358
Judge Dredd is fucking dead.

00:41:42.358 --> 00:41:42.688
Yeah.

00:41:42.688 --> 00:41:43.097
OK.

00:41:43.097 --> 00:41:47.130
Is there any is there anything that Team Dread can do in this scenario?

00:41:47.130 --> 00:41:48.780
Like, do they even get a shot off?

00:41:48.780 --> 00:41:54.202
I mean, I know like you can make an argument like Thor versus those three could kill all three of those guys.

00:41:54.742 --> 00:41:56.563
Which feels kind of annoyingly overpowered.

00:41:56.563 --> 00:42:00.565
But that's honestly I just believe that like that's who Baderay Bill would call.

00:42:00.565 --> 00:42:02.867
You know, he's got his he's got his ship.

00:42:02.867 --> 00:42:04.597
That's like an AI sort of ship.

00:42:04.597 --> 00:42:06.469
But yeah, I think that makes sense.

00:42:06.469 --> 00:42:08.048
I think that's that's how we're going to do it.

00:42:08.048 --> 00:42:08.570
OK, cool.

00:42:08.570 --> 00:42:10.010
So I get round two.

00:42:10.146 --> 00:42:12.978
Shout out to Bayre Bill, Odinson and Noren Rad.

00:42:12.978 --> 00:42:14.447
Thanks for helping out here.

00:42:14.447 --> 00:42:16.489
Aaron, are you ready to go to round three?

00:42:17.130 --> 00:42:18.570
Round number three.

00:42:18.570 --> 00:42:20.322
Let's pick our scenario here.

00:42:20.322 --> 00:42:22.632
Aaron, we got tell the listeners.

00:42:22.632 --> 00:42:25.193
Oh, is it diddy time?

00:42:25.494 --> 00:42:28.346
Yeah! It's diddy time.

00:42:28.346 --> 00:42:30.773
Tell the people what diddy time is.

00:42:30.773 --> 00:42:33.972
uh my God.

00:42:33.972 --> 00:42:41.418
So Diddy time is it's, it's a frictionless, it is a frictionless arena.

00:42:41.418 --> 00:42:47.945
So basically just imagine like stepping onto kind of like ice skating, there is no stopping.

00:42:47.945 --> 00:42:48.775
Yeah.

00:42:48.775 --> 00:42:51.208
You can run into a wall, but there's no slowing down.

00:42:51.208 --> 00:42:54.429
So you're going to maintain like, you're probably going to speed up actually.

00:42:54.429 --> 00:42:56.309
So like, be careful if you're going to hit a wall.

00:42:56.309 --> 00:42:59.619
Look at, think of like the Looney Tunes slipping noise.

00:43:00.023 --> 00:43:01.869
Exactly that.

00:43:01.869 --> 00:43:02.079
Yeah.

00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:03.853
Just think that all the time.

00:43:03.853 --> 00:43:04.253
All right.

00:43:04.253 --> 00:43:06.914
I'm spinning my I'm spinning my fighter right now.

00:43:06.914 --> 00:43:08.153
Got it.

00:43:08.153 --> 00:43:08.673
All right.

00:43:08.673 --> 00:43:11.833
It is Magneto.

00:43:14.733 --> 00:43:25.333
champion enough error Ooh, from the X-Men part of the Marvel Universe.

00:43:25.333 --> 00:43:26.114
Okay, got it.

00:43:26.114 --> 00:43:26.634
All right.

00:43:26.634 --> 00:43:28.514
Mine is...

00:43:28.514 --> 00:43:31.134
Oh my gosh, Aaron, you're going to love this.

00:43:31.134 --> 00:43:36.333
Actually, I may have just accidentally stumbled upon one of Aaron's deepest, darkest fantasies.

00:43:36.333 --> 00:43:41.693
My combatant is Big Barda, one of the new gods from DC Comics.

00:43:43.740 --> 00:43:45.043
Well, well.

00:43:45.043 --> 00:43:46.945
The gang's all here.

00:43:51.398 --> 00:43:53.460
You should never have come back, Barda.

00:43:53.460 --> 00:43:56.815
Although personally, I look forward to watching you die.

00:43:56.815 --> 00:44:02.510
I'd tell you to go to hell, Guillotine, but given the situation, that'd be redundant.

00:44:02.510 --> 00:44:03.998
So Aaron, do you want to talk?

00:44:03.998 --> 00:44:05.253
Should I just leave that there?

00:44:05.253 --> 00:44:07.411
Or do you want to discuss why I said that?

00:44:08.246 --> 00:44:09.128
I mean, it's easy.

00:44:09.128 --> 00:44:11.759
Barda, Muscle Mommy.

00:44:11.759 --> 00:44:13.391
She is the...

00:44:15.153 --> 00:44:18.567
Go ahead and give me some powers of Big Barda.

00:44:18.567 --> 00:44:23.101
Because I'd love to hear you tell me about my fantasy woman.

00:44:23.159 --> 00:44:27.532
Big Barda essentially is just like a giant, powerful woman.

00:44:27.532 --> 00:44:33.215
Her power set is really just limited to her giant sort of mace that she carries along with her.

00:44:33.215 --> 00:44:34.226
She is a god.

00:44:34.226 --> 00:44:35.036
She is a new god.

00:44:35.036 --> 00:44:36.336
So she has that.

00:44:36.356 --> 00:44:42.159
I don't know if she flies, but she does have the power to like teleport via a boom tube.

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.601
So she's obviously married to Scott Free, Mr.

00:44:44.601 --> 00:44:46.601
Miracle in the DC universe.

00:44:46.702 --> 00:44:47.963
She first appeared in Mr.

00:44:47.963 --> 00:44:53.291
Miracle number four back in 1971, of course, created by the king, King Kirby.

00:44:53.291 --> 00:44:57.525
She is generally the leader or one of the leaders of the female furies.

00:44:57.525 --> 00:45:04.351
More recently, she has been appearing in the Birds of Prey comic written by Kelly Thompson, art by Leo Romero.

00:45:04.351 --> 00:45:07.012
She is a master hand of hand in combat.

00:45:07.012 --> 00:45:11.847
She is a superhuman strength, durability, reflexes, agility, stamina and speed.

00:45:11.847 --> 00:45:12.858
And she's immortal.

00:45:12.858 --> 00:45:16.260
But for these purposes, of course, she is able to be killed.

00:45:16.260 --> 00:45:22.164
Just think big, strong woman with a giant mace who talks in sort of short superlatives.

00:45:23.273 --> 00:45:24.594
Aaron, how about you?

00:45:24.887 --> 00:45:29.931
So Magneto, his birth name is actually a lot of people think Eric Lencher, but it's not.

00:45:29.931 --> 00:45:31.023
is Max.

00:45:31.023 --> 00:45:31.943
Max.

00:45:31.943 --> 00:45:32.393
Max.

00:45:32.393 --> 00:45:32.795
Max.

00:45:32.795 --> 00:45:33.936
Max Eisenhart.

00:45:33.936 --> 00:45:34.286
Okay.

00:45:34.286 --> 00:45:34.827
I got it.

00:45:34.827 --> 00:45:35.766
Yeah.

00:45:35.766 --> 00:45:38.409
But yeah, Magnus is uh one of his aliases.

00:45:38.409 --> 00:45:45.795
uh He's, he's obviously appearing in American Marvel comics created by Stanley and like you said, King Kirby.

00:45:45.795 --> 00:45:48.688
ah Kirby creations.

00:45:48.688 --> 00:45:49.699
Yeah.

00:45:49.699 --> 00:45:51.070
He first appeared in X-Men.

00:45:51.070 --> 00:45:55.967
Number one, which actually The cover date is September 1963.

00:45:55.967 --> 00:45:56.728
Wow.

00:45:56.728 --> 00:46:01.217
So ah again, probably one of the most powerful mutants.

00:46:01.322 --> 00:46:02.527
Is he Omega?

00:46:02.527 --> 00:46:06.561
I can't remember exactly if he's Omega, but I'm almost positive he isn't a mega mutant.

00:46:06.561 --> 00:46:15.128
I would say like one of the coolest things that they've done recently is actually kind of like explore the lengths to what his powers could accomplish.

00:46:15.128 --> 00:46:20.492
And that's like literally turning off because he can affect magnetic frequencies and spectrums.

00:46:20.492 --> 00:46:22.313
He can literally turn off the planet.

00:46:22.313 --> 00:46:23.054
Yeah.

00:46:23.054 --> 00:46:23.884
And it's insane.

00:46:23.884 --> 00:46:26.425
Like his level of just power.

00:46:26.425 --> 00:46:30.798
So uh able to manipulate magnetic fields to achieve a wide range of effects.

00:46:30.798 --> 00:46:31.239
Yes.

00:46:31.239 --> 00:46:34.574
And he is classified as an a mega level mutant.

00:46:34.574 --> 00:46:40.240
The application of his powers is magnetism, manipulation of both ferrous and indirectly non-ferrous metals.

00:46:40.240 --> 00:46:48.329
So pretty much any superhero that relies on any weapon that is made of any kind of metal, yeah, think he'll fuck them up.

00:46:48.646 --> 00:46:57.530
So I think for, you know, simplest terms, Bartas Mase is at least out here or I guess it's more of a rod.

00:46:57.530 --> 00:47:09.577
But regardless, I would imagine it's made of some type of metal, whether it be a new god, fourth world type of metal or just whatever, you know, like even Thanos is giant blades are made of Uru metal.

00:47:09.577 --> 00:47:12.199
like you can sell Uru metal.

00:47:12.818 --> 00:47:16.681
But I think again, for these purposes, we'll just say that her rod is made of metal.

00:47:16.681 --> 00:47:18.927
But uh So that's pretty much gone.

00:47:18.927 --> 00:47:25.172
again, I think being in a concrete stone arena, right?

00:47:25.172 --> 00:47:27.309
Do you think Magneto has his levitation abilities?

00:47:27.309 --> 00:47:33.740
Cause I think he uses the gravitational pull of the metal within earth to levitate.

00:47:33.740 --> 00:47:35.382
Does he have that ability you think?

00:47:35.382 --> 00:47:42.378
Well, everything has like a magnetic, everything has like energy and has like a magnetic like, yes.

00:47:42.378 --> 00:47:44.731
mean, I don't think that he needs it.

00:47:44.731 --> 00:47:46.202
I don't think that he needs to fly in this.

00:47:46.202 --> 00:47:46.733
Could he?

00:47:46.733 --> 00:47:47.804
I believe he could.

00:47:47.804 --> 00:47:48.233
Okay.

00:47:48.233 --> 00:47:51.137
Because it's not necessarily like the metal that allows him to float.

00:47:51.137 --> 00:47:56.702
It's his ability to uh manipulate the magnetic forces that are around him.

00:47:56.842 --> 00:48:05.972
imagine anything that's like, yeah, anything that's, that's on earth or like has a gravity because gravity is created by magnetism.

00:48:05.972 --> 00:48:09.327
or centripetal force, is too much.

00:48:09.327 --> 00:48:10.568
Yeah.

00:48:10.568 --> 00:48:12.846
MC equals MC square science.

00:48:12.846 --> 00:48:19.226
Square over the over the over the two you carry you you divided by two, right?

00:48:19.246 --> 00:48:23.485
You carry and then divide and carry dividing care.

00:48:24.525 --> 00:48:25.246
Got it.

00:48:25.246 --> 00:48:26.346
OK, we found it.

00:48:26.346 --> 00:48:27.146
One part.

00:48:37.146 --> 00:48:50.693
Okay, is my very simple reaction to this is that if Magneto gets even with it, if he gets within a foot of Big Barda, she is going to like Hulk smash his head.

00:48:50.693 --> 00:48:54.335
She is like one of the strongest, if not the strongest new God.

00:48:54.335 --> 00:48:54.875
is again.

00:48:54.875 --> 00:48:56.106
You already said it muscle mommy.

00:48:56.106 --> 00:49:00.472
She is like the the the the female Furies are the.

00:49:00.472 --> 00:49:02.552
Think of like the Dora Milaje for Black Panther.

00:49:02.552 --> 00:49:06.023
They are like the force of combat in that universe.

00:49:06.023 --> 00:49:07.164
And she's a god.

00:49:07.164 --> 00:49:16.668
So I think that here's the only thing and I hate to debate for you, Aaron, but like I have read stories where like Magneto can manipulate the iron in people's blood.

00:49:16.668 --> 00:49:17.918
Have you seen this before?

00:49:17.918 --> 00:49:22.311
Where you can like and like do things to their organs.

00:49:22.351 --> 00:49:25.132
And here's that I'm going to say that to say this.

00:49:25.132 --> 00:49:28.623
I don't think that Big Bart is system works like that.

00:49:28.623 --> 00:49:29.677
She is a new god.

00:49:29.677 --> 00:49:36.184
She doesn't have like the same human anatomy as even though she has, I guess, had kids with Scott before.

00:49:36.184 --> 00:49:36.625
I don't know.

00:49:36.625 --> 00:49:38.556
It's it's it's comic book logic, people.

00:49:38.556 --> 00:49:39.248
I don't know.

00:49:39.248 --> 00:49:41.469
What are your what's your read here on this fight?

00:49:41.588 --> 00:49:42.889
Is she naked?

00:49:43.681 --> 00:49:45.614
Let's establish the real important things here.

00:49:45.614 --> 00:49:48.065
Firstly, how naked is she?

00:49:48.065 --> 00:49:50.307
No, she's clothed in her normal armor.

00:49:50.307 --> 00:49:53.385
ah I don't know.

00:49:53.385 --> 00:49:54.552
Let me look that up.

00:49:54.552 --> 00:49:56.773
I don't think it's metal, though.

00:49:56.920 --> 00:49:58.851
Cause that would be my question.

00:49:58.851 --> 00:50:05.914
Like the thing is as soon as she is, I feel like Magneto, I just want to call him Eric.

00:50:06.045 --> 00:50:16.721
as soon as Eric sees her coming towards him and like ready to attack, think that he's going to, he's self preservation is going to kick in immediately.

00:50:16.920 --> 00:50:23.485
And he is just going to, you know, as much as he doesn't want to, cause he, mean, he doesn't really want to kill the mutants.

00:50:23.485 --> 00:50:25.306
He wants to create the brotherhood.

00:50:25.306 --> 00:50:26.965
However, She's not a mutant though.

00:50:26.965 --> 00:50:28.266
She's a god.

00:50:29.146 --> 00:50:30.144
How is she going to kill?

00:50:30.144 --> 00:50:31.206
How is he going to kill her though?

00:50:31.206 --> 00:50:32.641
That's what I'm curious about.

00:50:32.641 --> 00:50:41.054
The guy can literally like change the like use his powers to like adjust and like change the magnetic force of the earth.

00:50:41.054 --> 00:50:45.889
Do you think that that's that's not going to have some kind of effect like he could do that to just her armor.

00:50:45.889 --> 00:50:47.818
He could literally just make it crusher.

00:50:47.818 --> 00:50:52.117
I mean, that's possible if her if her armor was made of metal, but I don't know that it is.

00:50:52.117 --> 00:51:01.034
I don't think we can like in good conscience say that her armor being that she is from apocalypse, that that that her armor is made of metal.

00:51:01.135 --> 00:51:03.202
Wait, what is the arena in this one?

00:51:03.202 --> 00:51:04.574
This is just the concrete normal.

00:51:04.574 --> 00:51:06.235
uh No, this is a diddy.

00:51:06.235 --> 00:51:07.690
This is the diddy party.

00:51:07.737 --> 00:51:08.519
Right, right.

00:51:08.519 --> 00:51:11.585
So she's slippery slide in.

00:51:11.585 --> 00:51:15.673
Do the cartoon noise again.

00:51:15.673 --> 00:51:16.335
she can't run.

00:51:16.335 --> 00:51:19.762
uh But neither can what is he doing?

00:51:20.117 --> 00:51:21.858
I he's probably just standing there.

00:51:22.541 --> 00:51:25.463
he can't, so, okay, next question.

00:51:25.483 --> 00:51:28.827
Is the arena on a planet?

00:51:28.827 --> 00:51:30.369
Or is it just floating in space?

00:51:30.369 --> 00:51:35.539
we got, what I think we're we're being too big brain about this because that doesn't matter.

00:51:35.539 --> 00:51:37.860
We can't go outside of the arena anyway.

00:51:38.673 --> 00:51:40.344
But nothing outside of that arena matters.

00:51:40.344 --> 00:51:42.686
It's just what's in that concrete slab.

00:51:42.867 --> 00:51:44.369
Is there any metal and concrete?

00:51:44.369 --> 00:51:46.000
I guess there's usually like rods and.

00:51:46.000 --> 00:51:46.414
rebar.

00:51:46.414 --> 00:51:48.012
Yeah, there's rebar.

00:51:48.077 --> 00:51:49.922
Well, I guess he could maybe use that.

00:51:49.922 --> 00:51:55.688
My only thing is that there is, he has his suit on, which is made of metal.

00:51:56.108 --> 00:51:59.411
So he can use his powers to move himself.

00:51:59.492 --> 00:52:00.639
She cannot.

00:52:00.639 --> 00:52:20.550
Okay, let me give you a little explainer here of the o'pock to Lipton bio armor is linked to at a cellular level and can be triggered by mental uh commands and forms around the user's entire body when called upon increasing the user strength and durability, as well as emit a concentrated beams of energy capable of inflicting agonizing pain.

00:52:20.550 --> 00:52:27.925
Its outer shell is a rock like appearance and can protect its wear from a wide array of hazards, including underwater environments, fire.

00:52:27.925 --> 00:52:31.288
and durability as the durability withstand multiple punches from Superman.

00:52:31.288 --> 00:52:39.554
And it also says here that Big Barda has gone toe to toe with Wonder Woman in many instances and has never been bested by her, making her an immediate match for Diana.

00:52:39.554 --> 00:52:46.639
Big Barda is a master combatant in swords, swordsmanship, raw brawling and in conjunction with her raw strength and grit.

00:52:46.699 --> 00:52:53.384
She also has a weapon called the Mega Rod, which enables her to fly, generate energy, teleport and manipulate gravity.

00:52:53.764 --> 00:52:54.244
I don't know.

00:52:54.244 --> 00:52:56.409
I I think that.

00:52:56.409 --> 00:52:58.251
I like big bar to here, honestly.

00:52:58.251 --> 00:53:04.652
I think that in a normal world with things around them, Magneto has a shot because then he can mess around with, with metal.

00:53:04.652 --> 00:53:11.014
But I think that since we're in a, and again, I I'm willing to give you like a little bit of grace and say like the rebars in the concrete walls.

00:53:11.014 --> 00:53:13.735
But I think even then all he is is playing with metal.

00:53:13.735 --> 00:53:21.557
She doesn't, I don't think she has any, I don't think she's able to be truly damaged by standard steel from, from earth.

00:53:21.634 --> 00:53:22.563
Here's my only thing.

00:53:22.563 --> 00:53:22.853
Okay.

00:53:22.853 --> 00:53:33.137
And this is why it matters that if there is any like type of like, again, where this where this battle, where this arena is happening and I really wish we could get clarity.

00:53:33.137 --> 00:53:35.697
If we can't get clarity, that's fine.

00:53:35.697 --> 00:53:36.277
Yeah.

00:53:36.277 --> 00:53:44.820
Um, because I would argue that he could use the magnetic like field to just literally like crusher.

00:53:45.081 --> 00:53:51.016
But however, because I don't know the answer to that and there's a lot of what would you call it?

00:53:51.016 --> 00:53:53.601
Evidence that she could overpower him.

00:53:53.762 --> 00:53:55.342
I'll succeed.

00:53:55.342 --> 00:53:56.242
Okay, fair enough.

00:53:56.242 --> 00:53:58.306
I think that's a good battle.

00:53:58.306 --> 00:54:04.052
Again, I think in almost any other scenario, like say, let's say no weapons, no gadgets.

00:54:04.094 --> 00:54:07.079
You know, this is a ditty party and Big Barda is not going to give up on it.

00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:11.021
You know that when it comes to a ditty party, Barda is down to clown.

00:54:11.096 --> 00:54:20.063
Well, you just said that, you know, even if she doesn't have her power, her rod, her suit can, can create like energy, like energy blasts.

00:54:20.063 --> 00:54:20.362
Right.

00:54:20.362 --> 00:54:26.217
So she could use that potentially to maneuver herself around the field.

00:54:26.219 --> 00:54:27.030
Yeah.

00:54:27.150 --> 00:54:27.440
Yeah.

00:54:27.440 --> 00:54:29.373
I think I feel good about giving part of this one.

00:54:29.373 --> 00:54:33.766
Um, cause again, I Magneto in many other scenarios, he is generally going to kick ass.

00:54:33.766 --> 00:54:34.677
It's not even going to be close.

00:54:34.677 --> 00:54:41.250
He's the type of character that can like pretty much fuck up anybody, but big Barta in this scenario, she is a, she's a new God.

00:54:41.250 --> 00:54:41.795
You know what mean?

00:54:41.795 --> 00:54:43.496
She is like the female fury.

00:54:43.496 --> 00:54:44.318
So yeah.

00:54:44.318 --> 00:54:44.608
Okay.

00:54:44.608 --> 00:54:50.431
Big Barta here for round three, a big two in a row here, Aaron, you getting nervous two to one going into round four.

00:54:50.431 --> 00:54:51.259
I am very nervous.

00:54:51.259 --> 00:54:51.713
All right.

00:54:51.713 --> 00:54:52.851
I'm a little bit upset.

00:54:52.851 --> 00:54:53.291
Here we go.

00:54:53.291 --> 00:54:54.652
Let's get into round four here.

00:54:54.652 --> 00:54:56.422
All right.

00:54:56.422 --> 00:54:59.045
Let's spin our wheel, spin in the wheel, spin in the wheel.

00:54:59.045 --> 00:55:00.947
Big money, big money, big money.

00:55:02.889 --> 00:55:10.925
Our next scenario is, oh, 20,000 archers fire one arrow every two minutes.

00:55:10.925 --> 00:55:14.688
So think seen in 300 where there's just multiple.

00:55:14.688 --> 00:55:16.699
There's like a sea of arrows in the sky.

00:55:16.699 --> 00:55:20.922
But that happens every two minutes and every arrows on fire.

00:55:21.177 --> 00:55:29.847
Okay, so now the arena this concrete slab just has little holes atop the entire thing and there's just arrows coming in at all times.

00:55:29.847 --> 00:55:33.101
Okay.

00:55:33.101 --> 00:55:34.021
On your end.

00:55:34.021 --> 00:55:34.722
I got mine.

00:55:34.722 --> 00:55:37.920
uh The Incredible Hulk.

00:56:02.722 --> 00:56:03.284
Okay.

00:56:03.284 --> 00:56:03.965
All right.

00:56:03.965 --> 00:56:04.947
Mine.

00:56:04.947 --> 00:56:06.159
Gosh, this is gonna be a quick battle.

00:56:06.159 --> 00:56:06.731
Everybody.

00:56:06.731 --> 00:56:09.896
Mine is Ash Williams from the Evil Dead franchise.

00:56:10.541 --> 00:56:31.081
All right, you primitive screwheads listen up See this This is my boomstick It's a 12 gauge double-belled Remington s Mart's top of the line You can find this in the sporting goods department That's right.

00:56:31.081 --> 00:56:36.581
This sweet baby was made in Grand Rapids, Retails for about $109.95.

00:56:36.581 --> 00:56:42.030
It's got a walnut stock cobalt blue steel and a hair trigger.

00:56:42.311 --> 00:56:43.414
That's right.

00:56:43.414 --> 00:56:45.074
Shop smart.

00:56:45.456 --> 00:56:47.507
Shop S-mart.

00:56:47.762 --> 00:56:51.543
OK, so we shop smart, we shop as smart at all times.

00:56:51.543 --> 00:57:03.219
But Ashley Williams is going to stand no chance in this in this scenario uh from top to bottom, really, because I think one round of fire archers is a done deal for old Ashley.

00:57:03.219 --> 00:57:04.617
And what are your thoughts?

00:57:04.617 --> 00:57:07.940
Well, ashy slashy is, uh, yeah, he's going to go down pretty crazy.

00:57:07.940 --> 00:57:09.681
Kind of a, it's kind of a bumbling fool.

00:57:09.681 --> 00:57:10.722
Yeah.

00:57:10.722 --> 00:57:12.141
He's kind of idiot of a dummy.

00:57:12.141 --> 00:57:16.724
Uh, he's very much a, a victim of his own circumstance.

00:57:16.724 --> 00:57:17.364
Yeah.

00:57:17.364 --> 00:57:22.889
And therefore he is not like, wouldn't even call him much of a fighter.

00:57:22.889 --> 00:57:23.208
Right.

00:57:23.208 --> 00:57:24.559
Like he is resourceful.

00:57:24.559 --> 00:57:25.829
I'll give him that.

00:57:26.110 --> 00:57:33.014
he has gotten some very lucky wins, but nothing that I would say is really like him.

00:57:33.474 --> 00:57:34.777
And also it's prep time.

00:57:34.777 --> 00:57:36.911
you ever look at the movies, it's always a lot of prep.

00:57:36.911 --> 00:57:38.364
He is Macaulay Culkin.

00:57:38.364 --> 00:57:39.244
Yeah.

00:57:43.010 --> 00:57:43.990
Hailed to king, baby.

00:57:43.990 --> 00:57:48.222
um And you know, I love, I love Bruce Campbell.

00:57:48.222 --> 00:57:49.634
I love the evil dad.

00:57:49.634 --> 00:57:52.094
love army of darkness, all that stuff.

00:57:52.114 --> 00:58:03.179
yeah, the Hulk before an arrow gets, you know, let before somebody, anybody loses an arrow, the Hulk is just going to walk, walk over to him and like punch him right in this fucking face.

00:58:04.661 --> 00:58:05.961
Yeah, exactly.

00:58:07.110 --> 00:58:10.809
You would just do the thing that he does the Loki and the Avengers and it's done.

00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:35.956
Yeah I am a god you dull creature, and I will not be bullied by Yeah, unfortunately, I think Ash, you know, obviously he's going to have his boomstick.

00:58:35.956 --> 00:58:37.327
He's going to have his chainsaw arm.

00:58:37.327 --> 00:58:41.952
uh He might even have the the Necronaut, Nomicon.

00:58:42.815 --> 00:58:43.815
He doesn't use it.

00:58:43.815 --> 00:58:45.297
Yeah, it doesn't help him.

00:58:45.297 --> 00:58:48.920
Could he turn Bruce into a uh deadite?

00:58:49.059 --> 00:58:51.280
Even if he did it, it's still the Hulk.

00:58:51.280 --> 00:58:54.061
It's still the Hulk and it's still gonna fuck him up.

00:58:54.126 --> 00:58:55.286
Fair enough, fair enough.

00:58:55.286 --> 00:58:55.847
All right.

00:58:55.847 --> 00:58:56.387
Yeah.

00:58:56.387 --> 00:59:02.211
Unfortunately, Aaron, we have like one of these a battle where like it's it's insurmountable.

00:59:02.211 --> 00:59:02.521
Yeah.

00:59:02.521 --> 00:59:15.561
There's no way that one of our combatants, again, speaking of like that Raphael versus Tony Stark with no gadgets battle and like, you know, Beatrix Kiddo versus Optimus Prime in a water.

00:59:16.806 --> 00:59:18.074
So, okay.

00:59:18.074 --> 00:59:20.014
I will see it here too.

00:59:20.014 --> 00:59:22.974
Punisher versus Hellboy was another one.

00:59:23.092 --> 00:59:25.304
So is there anything we can say about the Hulk really?

00:59:25.304 --> 00:59:29.135
mean, I think most people know who the J giant is, right?

00:59:29.135 --> 00:59:35.146
He's probably a top five most popular superhero in the world.

00:59:35.146 --> 00:59:37.909
easily like universally recognized.

00:59:37.909 --> 00:59:42.713
Uh, the Hulk, you know, created by, by Stanley and other Stanley Jack Kirby.

00:59:42.713 --> 00:59:44.295
We're in a Kirby kick today.

00:59:44.295 --> 00:59:45.916
Stanley, Stanley Kirby kick.

00:59:45.916 --> 00:59:55.067
Uh, first debuted an issue, uh, the first issue of the incredible Hulk may 1960, may 1962, excuse me.

00:59:55.067 --> 01:00:08.422
In his comic book appearances, he has dissociates Dissociative identity disorder a DID which is what they used to call split personalities So because they're just basically calling the Incredible Hulk his green sign a split personality.

01:00:08.422 --> 01:00:13.501
Yeah, I call more than that But um, you know Bruce Banner actually people think Bruce Banner is his name.

01:00:13.501 --> 01:00:20.681
It's not it's a Robert Bruce Banner He went by Bruce Banner because he was trying to hide his identity.

01:00:20.681 --> 01:00:23.722
Oh And he's as as dr.

01:00:23.722 --> 01:00:24.081
Bruce Banner.

01:00:24.081 --> 01:00:36.545
He's physically weak socially withdrawn and emotionally reserved You know, they changed his name in the TV show from Bruce, because I guess some people thought the name Bruce was kind of they thought it was too homosexual sounding.

01:00:36.545 --> 01:00:39.487
So they changed it to David for the TV show back in.

01:00:40.230 --> 01:00:43.715
So and then David Banner, the rapper, came in and they're like, you know what?

01:00:43.715 --> 01:00:45.297
We're going to just go back to Bruce.

01:00:45.297 --> 01:00:46.230
No, that's not why.

01:00:46.230 --> 01:00:51.853
And then and then Eric Bana, Eric Bana, right, played him in a film that sucked.

01:00:51.853 --> 01:00:53.958
Who's your favorite live action Hulk?

01:00:55.043 --> 01:00:56.405
Is it Mark Ruffalo?

01:00:56.449 --> 01:00:58.393
I really like Ed Norton.

01:00:58.909 --> 01:01:01.016
I really liked Ed Norton.

01:01:02.041 --> 01:01:05.536
That's a hard, that's a battle royale we need.

01:01:05.581 --> 01:01:07.902
I think it's, I think it's pretty handily Mark Ruffalo.

01:01:07.902 --> 01:01:10.501
think that he is so great as that character.

01:01:11.981 --> 01:01:19.181
It's, it's got, it's something to do with like the rights with universal because universal owns the movie rights and that's And they keep holding it over Marvel's head.

01:01:19.181 --> 01:01:22.981
Like, Hey, if you can make your Hulk movie, but we want 40 % of the profits.

01:01:22.981 --> 01:01:24.121
And they're like, we're not doing that.

01:01:24.121 --> 01:01:25.021
We'll throw them in a Thor movie.

01:01:25.021 --> 01:01:25.782
What are you talking about?

01:01:25.782 --> 01:01:26.181
Yeah.

01:01:26.181 --> 01:01:31.342
You know, so a little bit of background on Ashley Williams, AKA Ash.

01:01:31.342 --> 01:01:35.202
He first premiered and Sam Raimi's evil dead in 1981.

01:01:35.202 --> 01:01:39.525
Olivia and I actually just watched that for the while she watched it for the first time a couple of nights ago.

01:01:39.525 --> 01:01:41.706
She thought it was the silliest thing ever, which it is.

01:01:41.706 --> 01:01:45.641
ah He also showed up in Evil Dead 2.

01:01:46.751 --> 01:01:48.083
A little bit, a little bit.

01:01:48.083 --> 01:01:48.592
Yeah.

01:01:48.592 --> 01:01:49.472
Yeah.

01:01:49.773 --> 01:01:52.106
Not not like a ton, because obviously I like to be in the movie.

01:01:52.106 --> 01:01:59.851
But like I try to explain some things like when you show someone Evil Dead for the first time, there has to be like a little bit of prerequisite.

01:02:01.422 --> 01:02:08.445
You gotta prep them for a little bit of what's about to Yeah, the silliness like yeah, you have are you gonna watch army of darkness with her?

01:02:08.472 --> 01:02:12.833
She said directly after the first one that she was like, I don't need to see any more of these.

01:02:12.833 --> 01:02:14.942
I'm like, hold on, hold on.

01:02:14.942 --> 01:02:15.353
Hold on.

01:02:15.353 --> 01:02:16.403
There's it gets better.

01:02:16.403 --> 01:02:17.134
I promise you like.

01:02:17.134 --> 01:02:23.121
Yeah, I think is like a perfect movie and it's just a better version of.

01:02:23.425 --> 01:02:24.266
Like.

01:02:24.606 --> 01:02:27.396
And then Army of Darkness, of course, is my favorite one of the entire franchise.

01:02:27.396 --> 01:02:34.244
We've obviously covered Evil Dead 2013, which is, you know, an Evil Dead movie that doesn't even have Ash Williams in the movie.

01:02:34.244 --> 01:02:37.750
So and then obviously there's Ash versus the Evil Dead.

01:02:38.170 --> 01:02:47.175
All the things so and actually in 2013 Ash Williams was voted by Empire magazine as the greatest horror movie character of all time Which is interesting.

01:02:47.175 --> 01:02:49.177
So and didn't burst Campbell.

01:02:49.177 --> 01:02:51.478
He wrote a book not back in the day.

01:02:51.730 --> 01:02:56.266
I Mean, yeah, he's got he's got lots, but I know you met didn't you meet him at some point?

01:02:56.266 --> 01:03:08.150
I've never met him not that I remember but my parents so they got one of my books of his autographed So it's if chins could kill the story of a B movie actor That sounds like a Bruce Campbell book.

01:03:08.150 --> 01:03:08.489
Yeah.

01:03:08.489 --> 01:03:09.231
All right.

01:03:09.231 --> 01:03:10.889
All right.

01:03:11.233 --> 01:03:15.695
Well, round four goes to Aaron and the Hulk.

01:03:15.695 --> 01:03:17.135
Let's get into our final round.

01:03:17.135 --> 01:03:19.157
We're currently two to two crazy.

01:03:19.157 --> 01:03:20.556
Two to two here.

01:03:20.597 --> 01:03:21.902
We're getting crazy.

01:03:21.902 --> 01:03:28.280
They don't fucking matter though because like I've won some of these and then the fucking fans I'm not fans listeners Turner Turner around on me.

01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:28.980
Well, you know what?

01:03:28.980 --> 01:03:29.931
It's happened to both of us.

01:03:29.931 --> 01:03:31.251
We've you know, you've won.

01:03:31.251 --> 01:03:32.692
You won the most recent one.

01:03:32.692 --> 01:03:34.541
So true.

01:03:34.541 --> 01:03:35.250
That's all right.

01:03:35.250 --> 01:03:36.952
All Let's get into our final scenario here.

01:03:36.952 --> 01:03:39.994
Final scenario of Battle Royale number six.

01:03:40.014 --> 01:03:44.494
We have is it call for three reinforcements?

01:03:44.494 --> 01:03:45.474
Oh, fuck.

01:03:45.474 --> 01:03:46.230
here we go.

01:03:46.230 --> 01:03:47.096
Oh, wow.

01:03:47.096 --> 01:03:50.536
OK, three reinforcements for this one.

01:03:50.536 --> 01:03:53.023
OK, she's I only have one fighter left.

01:03:53.023 --> 01:03:53.887
I already know what mine is.

01:03:53.887 --> 01:03:55.653
Do you know your I know mine is okay.

01:03:55.653 --> 01:03:56.347
Who's yours?

01:03:56.347 --> 01:04:01.003
You're I said mine first last I know this time mine is Sora from Kingdom Hearts.

01:04:03.619 --> 01:04:27.442
you Here and I, there's a new land.

01:04:27.442 --> 01:04:28.333
Am I doing the right?

01:04:28.333 --> 01:04:29.715
that right?

01:04:29.715 --> 01:04:32.418
The theme song from Kingdom Hearts.

01:04:32.438 --> 01:04:39.793
If you walk away, don't hear me say please, lady, don't go.

01:04:39.793 --> 01:04:42.163
Ripple and clean is the way.

01:04:42.163 --> 01:04:44.896
Banger of the 21st or the 20th century, right?

01:04:44.896 --> 01:04:46.632
That is the song.

01:04:46.733 --> 01:04:48.856
Please mute us.

01:04:50.360 --> 01:04:54.865
Just play the real, or at least a clip of it so we don't sound like complete asshats here.

01:04:54.865 --> 01:04:59.333
um So mine is Aang, the last avatar.

01:05:28.407 --> 01:05:31.570
He's the last, I don't know much about.

01:05:31.822 --> 01:05:37.293
So he's the last airbender, the Avatar, the last airbender.

01:05:37.293 --> 01:05:39.304
Airbenders can do like all of it, right?

01:05:39.500 --> 01:05:47.135
No, so they can bend like they can obviously like manipulate like wind but the avatars are able to control all elements.

01:05:47.536 --> 01:05:52.539
So basically the fucking, you know, the fucking planet tears.

01:05:53.061 --> 01:05:55.643
Wind, water, uh fire.

01:05:56.463 --> 01:06:05.891
And so since he, since we're going to do three reinforcements, I'm going to have him bring out uh Cora, who is the next avatar.

01:06:05.891 --> 01:06:10.902
um And then You tell your reinforcements if you know them.

01:06:10.902 --> 01:06:11.331
pretty easy.

01:06:11.331 --> 01:06:13.623
It's going to be Donald Duck, Goofy and Mickey Mouse.

01:06:13.844 --> 01:06:15.695
they're all there.

01:06:15.695 --> 01:06:23.351
First of all, they all have their most powerful key blade and they're also all wearing the Nightmare Before Christmas costumes.

01:06:24.172 --> 01:06:26.393
So that's how we're going about this here.

01:06:26.393 --> 01:06:32.648
And also Mickey's wearing his his black cloak as well for something because I think he looks cool in it.

01:06:33.038 --> 01:06:33.597
Okay.

01:06:33.597 --> 01:06:36.418
I was going to bring Cora, Amon.

01:06:36.418 --> 01:06:37.050
No, not Amon.

01:06:37.050 --> 01:06:37.599
What is his name?

01:06:37.599 --> 01:06:38.440
What is the fucking...

01:06:38.440 --> 01:06:48.905
Amon's the bad guy from the movie, but I was going to bring the emperor from the first, from Avatar, who is like the supremely powerful, like fire bender.

01:06:48.905 --> 01:06:50.827
then Tarlock.

01:06:50.827 --> 01:06:53.057
So Tarlock, who's a blood bender.

01:06:53.057 --> 01:06:55.739
He's a water bender who can bend blood.

01:06:55.739 --> 01:06:57.485
Like it's completely fucked up.

01:06:57.485 --> 01:06:58.286
All right.

01:06:58.286 --> 01:06:59.686
right.

01:06:59.686 --> 01:07:12.106
And you obviously have a strong attachment to the Kingdom Hearts franchise, but just for the layman of folks who don't really know what Kingdom Hearts is, it was a video game series that initially came out in 2002 for the PlayStation 2.

01:07:12.226 --> 01:07:16.025
know, Sora and co have showed up in many different things.

01:07:16.025 --> 01:07:25.085
But I think the most simplest way of putting this is like take Disney and take Final Fantasy and take your most like.

01:07:25.193 --> 01:07:29.246
emotional anime manga that you know and smash those three together.

01:07:29.246 --> 01:07:31.880
And that's what Kingdom Hearts is.

01:07:31.880 --> 01:07:42.427
It's just a convoluted, beautiful fucking story that is about a little boy who wants to save his friends and Disney characters and Final Fantasy characters are there.

01:07:42.483 --> 01:07:44.313
It's so weird.

01:07:44.934 --> 01:07:47.094
It's like they're not really themselves.

01:07:47.094 --> 01:07:53.317
They're in like a simulation that's part of another simulation, but they're also like different parts of their personalities.

01:07:53.317 --> 01:07:55.036
So and then like they're different.

01:07:55.036 --> 01:08:01.309
Their names are like anagrams and like mess up like Xehanort and like like all these things.

01:08:01.309 --> 01:08:03.239
It's like Disney is Yen Sid.

01:08:03.239 --> 01:08:05.760
And it's like it's this whole I don't fucking get it.

01:08:05.760 --> 01:08:12.034
I need like somebody send me a full breakdown of everything that Kingdom Hearts is so I can understand what the fuck is going on.

01:08:12.034 --> 01:08:20.297
because it was so simple and clean in the first game.

01:08:20.297 --> 01:08:23.559
And now it's like completely like, like they're coming out with a new one.

01:08:23.559 --> 01:08:37.144
And in this new one, people are explaining that he has like, it's more human form, which you could see in like Kingdom Hearts two, think it was, or Kingdom Hearts three, when they had like Roxas who is Sora X.

01:08:37.225 --> 01:08:45.286
And then it's like, They look human, they look more human and you got Sora who looks like a character, but then in the real world he looks like a normal person.

01:08:45.286 --> 01:08:49.293
But when he goes back into the system, which is like digital, it's so weird.

01:08:49.293 --> 01:08:51.453
my favorite segment on the show here.

01:08:51.453 --> 01:08:55.525
It's Aaron trying to explain the Kingdom Hearts universe, but not knowing it.

01:08:55.637 --> 01:08:56.208
Exactly.

01:08:56.208 --> 01:09:00.532
Well, Ang is an, is an avatar.

01:09:00.532 --> 01:09:03.215
Uh, he's from, he's an air nomad.

01:09:03.215 --> 01:09:14.097
He was born in 12 BG, which I'm not really sure what that is, but, basically the, the world knows that the, the avatars, like they basically go from one, what would you call it?

01:09:14.097 --> 01:09:15.676
Like power set to the next.

01:09:15.676 --> 01:09:17.256
So, and it's like a cycle.

01:09:17.256 --> 01:09:22.721
And because the fire nation knew that the next avatar was going to be the wind.

01:09:22.721 --> 01:09:34.514
like an airbender or an air nomad, they basically went on this fucking full genocidal mission to kill every fucking avatar or airbender, excuse me, because he was supposed to fight in this war and like save everybody.

01:09:34.514 --> 01:09:45.905
He got scared and he went to like the Antarctic to run away and somehow sealed himself into this casing, encasing of ice and wasn't seen for, for like, I think like a hundred years or something.

01:09:46.315 --> 01:09:50.409
Well, I guess the important question here is, well, there's two important questions.

01:09:50.409 --> 01:09:56.247
Number one, do you know who voiced Sora in the video games and the English voice actor?

01:09:56.247 --> 01:09:57.449
I guess I should say.

01:09:57.912 --> 01:09:58.523
what is his name?

01:09:58.523 --> 01:10:00.015
He's a he's the child actor, isn't he?

01:10:00.015 --> 01:10:00.315
Yeah.

01:10:00.315 --> 01:10:01.527
Yeah.

01:10:01.588 --> 01:10:02.864
Haley Osmond or something.

01:10:02.864 --> 01:10:03.164
Osman.

01:10:03.164 --> 01:10:03.435
Yep.

01:10:03.435 --> 01:10:04.087
Yeah.

01:10:04.087 --> 01:10:04.997
Nice.

01:10:06.122 --> 01:10:06.362
right.

01:10:06.362 --> 01:10:12.671
And the second important question is how do the avatar folks stack up against the keyblade folks?

01:10:12.671 --> 01:10:17.444
Okay, so we got to look at this uh first off from the Kingdom Hearts set.

01:10:17.626 --> 01:10:25.070
You've already given them their specific costumes and you've given them their most powerful keyblades and weapons.

01:10:25.070 --> 01:10:28.543
So you have Sora who has his, what is it?

01:10:28.543 --> 01:10:30.675
It's the Kingdom blade, right?

01:10:30.855 --> 01:10:31.626
Is that what it's called?

01:10:31.626 --> 01:10:32.439
The ultimate?

01:10:32.439 --> 01:10:33.752
Or is it the ultimate key?

01:10:33.752 --> 01:10:38.296
I think it's like, it's the one that has the star, if I remember correctly, but you keep talking and I'll look it up.

01:10:38.296 --> 01:10:41.228
So you have Sora with his keyblade.

01:10:41.228 --> 01:10:43.208
Sora can wield magic.

01:10:43.208 --> 01:10:45.860
He's obviously a very good fighter.

01:10:45.860 --> 01:10:47.931
It's the same?

01:10:47.931 --> 01:10:48.181
Yeah.

01:10:48.181 --> 01:10:48.692
Boom.

01:10:48.692 --> 01:10:49.653
Fuck it.

01:10:49.653 --> 01:10:51.212
I know fucking everything.

01:10:51.212 --> 01:10:52.144
He knows his kingdom, Aaron.

01:10:52.144 --> 01:10:53.277
That's what I always tell people about you.

01:10:53.277 --> 01:10:54.639
I'm like, he knows Kingdom Hearts.

01:10:54.639 --> 01:10:56.532
Yeah, pretty great, honestly.

01:10:56.532 --> 01:10:59.485
He is not good-looking, he knows Kingdom Hearts.

01:10:59.550 --> 01:11:02.471
is small but damn it does he know Kingdom Hearts.

01:11:02.471 --> 01:11:04.423
he know Sora's weapons.

01:11:04.484 --> 01:11:11.632
And then you have Goofy who um he is a defense.

01:11:11.632 --> 01:11:12.764
He's a tank basically.

01:11:12.764 --> 01:11:14.997
So he's like defense against the dark arts.

01:11:14.997 --> 01:11:18.189
And then you got Donald almost a Daffy.

01:11:18.189 --> 01:11:18.881
got Donald.

01:11:18.881 --> 01:11:25.972
oh Bye! Yeah, I don't know how to say words.

01:11:25.972 --> 01:11:28.141
could just do it.

01:11:28.746 --> 01:11:29.286
I don't know.

01:11:29.286 --> 01:11:32.929
um You got, so he's a, he's a magic wielder.

01:11:32.929 --> 01:11:38.932
So he's primarily, you know, obviously like you can do like healing, you can do dark, you can do all that stuff.

01:11:38.952 --> 01:11:42.595
And then also Sora has the ability to summon so he can do summons.

01:11:42.595 --> 01:11:51.484
uh Really, I think it's, it's kind of his sorry his Ultima blade kind of looks like that summon from Final Fantasy 10.

01:11:51.484 --> 01:11:54.770
The one that has like he has like the chains on him.

01:11:54.770 --> 01:11:56.173
Do you know who I'm talking about?

01:11:56.173 --> 01:11:57.613
I see the Ultima blade.

01:11:57.613 --> 01:11:58.533
looks like it's kind of yellow.

01:11:58.533 --> 01:12:00.573
It looks almost like it's got a wing.

01:12:01.394 --> 01:12:02.113
Oh, Anima.

01:12:02.113 --> 01:12:02.333
Yeah.

01:12:02.333 --> 01:12:03.154
I can see that.

01:12:03.154 --> 01:12:04.073
Yeah, I can see that.

01:12:04.073 --> 01:12:04.474
Yeah.

01:12:04.474 --> 01:12:07.793
But also it looks like a giant Venus flytrap like.

01:12:08.237 --> 01:12:15.695
And also I should say just, feel like it's important that we say this Aaron specifically that the second most powerful key blade is called oblivion.

01:12:17.298 --> 01:12:22.703
good marketing by us many, years ago before we knew each other.

01:12:23.806 --> 01:12:25.408
We can back them to that for sure.

01:12:25.408 --> 01:12:27.724
uh here's my thing.

01:12:27.724 --> 01:12:32.170
At the end of the day, Donald and Goofy are fucking useless.

01:12:32.170 --> 01:12:38.298
ah You're probably your best two fighters because you said Mickey and Sora.

01:12:38.298 --> 01:12:43.662
So your best two fighters and this is this is this this Kingdom Hearts like number one Mickey and Sora?

01:12:43.662 --> 01:12:49.688
Uh, yeah, I mean if we're going to limit it, I would just say first three, first three Kingdom Hearts games.

01:12:49.688 --> 01:12:50.300
Three Kingdom Hearts.

01:12:50.300 --> 01:12:50.551
Okay.

01:12:50.551 --> 01:12:52.123
So pretty OP.

01:12:52.287 --> 01:12:55.376
So these guys are pretty fucking strong.

01:12:55.376 --> 01:13:00.087
ah Yeah.

01:13:00.087 --> 01:13:00.439
Yeah.

01:13:00.439 --> 01:13:00.899
Yeah.

01:13:00.899 --> 01:13:07.565
Well, that was my thing is cause I was going to give him like, I want it to be like, you know, end of the end of the season or the end of the show.

01:13:07.565 --> 01:13:10.338
I want him to have access to all the fires.

01:13:10.338 --> 01:13:13.533
Uh, I want him to be able to rely on.

01:13:13.533 --> 01:13:20.619
Cause again, we're also talking the other, uh, guys from, know, from the show, from chorus show.

01:13:20.619 --> 01:13:22.801
Plus you have her as an avatar as well.

01:13:23.405 --> 01:13:26.126
To be honest, I hate that I'm doing this.

01:13:26.126 --> 01:13:30.485
I'm going to give you full reign to pick this because I know nothing about Avatar.

01:13:30.485 --> 01:13:31.365
I fight.

01:13:31.365 --> 01:13:33.166
I cannot fight it either one way or the other.

01:13:33.166 --> 01:13:36.786
I am only knowledgeable about Kingdom Hearts in this scenario.

01:13:36.786 --> 01:13:45.305
And I feel like when a little kid and his friends can beat Seth Roth in a fight that puts them in a pretty decent shot with against anybody.

01:13:45.305 --> 01:13:50.905
I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm going to push all my responsibility onto you and you tell me who you think will win.

01:13:50.905 --> 01:13:52.985
And I trust you enough to give a fair answer.

01:13:52.985 --> 01:13:54.908
Oh man, this is fucked up.

01:13:54.908 --> 01:14:02.676
You're, you're really, you're, you're real fucking asshole.

01:14:02.676 --> 01:14:04.698
Um, okay.

01:14:05.199 --> 01:14:05.802
Let's see.

01:14:05.802 --> 01:14:07.110
I gotta think about this.

01:14:07.110 --> 01:14:09.094
What do the Avatar folks do first?

01:14:09.094 --> 01:14:13.461
They walk in, they see Mickey, Donald, Goofy, and Sora.

01:14:13.461 --> 01:14:14.466
They all do their stances.

01:14:14.466 --> 01:14:15.145
That's pretty much it.

01:14:15.145 --> 01:14:18.177
It's like a lot of like I'm really feeling like Ginyu Force here.

01:14:18.177 --> 01:14:25.729
Like they got to do their fucking like cool stance before, you know, but also here's the advantage that both of us have.

01:14:25.871 --> 01:14:28.792
They're all cartoon or video game characters.

01:14:28.792 --> 01:14:34.314
So therefore they have, we don't really understand the full extent of their ability to take a hit.

01:14:34.314 --> 01:14:44.637
They're, you know, and so I would say Aang and Korra, I'm not going to call them gods, but they're pretty fucking OP as well.

01:14:44.637 --> 01:15:02.345
Like they're able to, they're not able to like summon fucking Mufasa or Simba to attack, but or Ursula, but I will say this, like, feel like the amount of stuff that they've gone through, the fights, the scale that they've, they have fought against.

01:15:02.765 --> 01:15:03.506
Ooh, man.

01:15:03.506 --> 01:15:17.873
But also you have Sora who's fought against like literally in one battle, thousands of, of heartless, but we're also talking about heartless, not necessarily being agile, smart, really powerful enemies.

01:15:18.034 --> 01:15:29.604
but, but you also have to look at the, powers or the, fights that Sora and his team have beat, which are they beat gods, they beat what's his name?

01:15:29.604 --> 01:15:30.587
Um, Hades.

01:15:30.587 --> 01:15:34.720
They beat, I mean, they've even fought against cloud and Sephiroth.

01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:37.663
So, man, this is a hard fucking battle.

01:15:37.663 --> 01:15:39.916
A former combatant of yours too.

01:15:39.916 --> 01:15:42.518
You again, as you picked Seth Roth at one point.

01:15:42.518 --> 01:15:43.588
Yeah.

01:15:43.588 --> 01:15:46.942
Again, I have no real and good conscious.

01:15:46.942 --> 01:15:51.324
I could not pick a pick a winner here because I don't know Avatar as well as you do.

01:15:51.324 --> 01:15:52.506
I hear.

01:15:52.506 --> 01:15:57.149
Can I, while you think about it, can I, can I just briefly say, don't judge me, anybody listening.

01:15:57.149 --> 01:16:01.953
I've tried to watch the last airbender, the animated series, the Nickelodeon version a couple of times.

01:16:02.375 --> 01:16:03.496
It's not that it's bad.

01:16:03.496 --> 01:16:06.702
just cannot put myself into it for whatever reason.

01:16:06.702 --> 01:16:22.488
I will say this, there is a lot of silliness because it's almost like a kid show a majority of the time, but if you can manage to get to the later seasons when it gets into him really understanding what his purpose is.

01:16:22.488 --> 01:16:30.742
Legend of Korra is definitely an older, like conceptually an older, more mature audience for that because they knew their audience.

01:16:30.742 --> 01:16:36.137
Like lot of these kids had grown up seeing Aang and they knew they grew into wanting to see more avatars.

01:16:36.137 --> 01:16:39.730
had core, you know, and I believe they're actually doing, they're doing more.

01:16:39.730 --> 01:16:41.582
They're supposed to be adding more to it.

01:16:41.582 --> 01:16:48.286
I will say this, like, again, when you get to the point where like, like Aang actually knows like he's going to like, like he's going to fucking war.

01:16:48.546 --> 01:16:49.898
is a bad ass show.

01:16:49.898 --> 01:16:54.931
there is like the, of these fight scenes in the background story becomes so emotionally charged.

01:16:54.931 --> 01:16:56.523
It's, it's amazing.

01:16:56.523 --> 01:17:00.636
Even Zuko who's, who's voiced by Dante Bosco, who's one of my favorite people on the planet.

01:17:00.636 --> 01:17:04.622
ah Zuko's character is phenomenal.

01:17:04.622 --> 01:17:06.404
His character development.

01:17:06.404 --> 01:17:07.963
I know I'm going into a way too much here.

01:17:07.963 --> 01:17:09.965
Um, okay.

01:17:10.046 --> 01:17:10.725
I'm going to be honest.

01:17:10.725 --> 01:17:13.328
I think I'm to give it to Sora and Mickey.

01:17:13.328 --> 01:17:13.868
Okay.

01:17:13.868 --> 01:17:18.051
I just feel like, I feel like the, sheer team heart.

01:17:18.051 --> 01:17:18.270
Yeah.

01:17:18.270 --> 01:17:23.768
Team team, team KH because simple and clean because here's the thing.

01:17:23.768 --> 01:17:30.217
Like I, I do know does, does Mickey mouse bleed?

01:17:31.484 --> 01:17:34.015
I don't know actually You bleed?

01:17:34.237 --> 01:17:34.939
You bleed?

01:17:34.939 --> 01:17:52.814
You will! You will! You will you son of Buster Hall! I'm gonna fuck you up I'm gonna fuck you gonna shove this keyblade so far up your a- Hahaha You're Angus.

01:17:55.113 --> 01:17:57.094
I'm going to unlock your brain.

01:17:57.894 --> 01:18:01.094
So I would say, so sorry for that folks.

01:18:01.613 --> 01:18:08.753
Because yeah, that's the other thing is like idea of strategy would be like the, the, the, the benders would go in there.

01:18:08.753 --> 01:18:16.033
The most powerful thing is like to start like basically torturing them or bending them because they have blood and we don't know if they have blood or not.

01:18:16.033 --> 01:18:17.554
We don't know if they can die.

01:18:19.394 --> 01:18:20.078
Yeah.

01:18:20.078 --> 01:18:22.597
So definitely not Mickey because Mickey is not going be killed.

01:18:22.597 --> 01:18:24.177
Mickey Mickey is unkillable.

01:18:24.177 --> 01:18:25.917
Try it motherfucker.

01:18:25.957 --> 01:18:28.158
ain't got no blood.

01:18:28.158 --> 01:18:28.917
You think I could die?

01:18:28.917 --> 01:18:31.097
I'll fucking kill you off.

01:18:32.137 --> 01:18:32.797
God.

01:18:34.057 --> 01:18:40.238
We're going to fucking get canceled or somebody somebody's going to be like, oh, God, I'm not listening to that show.

01:18:41.238 --> 01:18:44.177
Mickey Mouse voices for 20 minutes straight.

01:18:45.037 --> 01:18:52.707
yeah, I'm going to give it to because again, I just I know that Eng, he dies.

01:18:52.707 --> 01:18:54.078
I'm not saying that's not a spoiler.

01:18:54.078 --> 01:18:57.850
He literally gets old and dies.

01:18:58.211 --> 01:19:00.152
That's more of a spoiler than saying he dies.

01:19:00.152 --> 01:19:00.572
Yeah.

01:19:00.572 --> 01:19:07.996
So I feel like, think honestly, like again, we don't know the depths of Sora and his team, you know, team hearts.

01:19:07.996 --> 01:19:10.697
um You know, their, their durability.

01:19:10.697 --> 01:19:13.828
So I really got to give it to them because that's an unknown factor right there.

01:19:13.828 --> 01:19:19.261
And I know that, that there, I do know the durability of the Avatar team.

01:19:19.261 --> 01:19:19.822
Sure.

01:19:19.822 --> 01:19:20.841
Okay.

01:19:21.862 --> 01:19:28.042
I appreciate you being impartial and you know, I think that that will conclude Battle Royale number six.

01:19:28.042 --> 01:19:31.845
So Aaron, why don't you go through our matchups and the winners one last time before we close out here.

01:19:31.895 --> 01:19:32.256
All right.

01:19:32.256 --> 01:19:37.371
Unfortunately, I fucking lost again, but hopefully not yet.

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Hopefully the listeners will come back and fucking help me out.

01:19:40.953 --> 01:19:44.456
round one was Nemesis versus Spawn in a normal battle.

01:19:44.456 --> 01:19:49.279
I won that round two is Beta Ray Bill versus Judge Red with two reinforcements.

01:19:49.279 --> 01:19:52.622
Chris won that big Barda versus Magneto.

01:19:52.622 --> 01:19:54.003
Did it party?

01:19:54.704 --> 01:19:56.345
Chris won that one.

01:19:56.345 --> 01:19:59.828
Ash Williams from the Evil Dead versus the Incredible Hulk.

01:19:59.828 --> 01:20:01.289
I won that one.

01:20:01.453 --> 01:20:17.613
Hulk smashed that ass and he broke that boomstick in half and then Sora Kingdom Hearts versus Ang, the last airbender, the, know, team, team hearts versus team airbender team, simple and clean versus team, uh, captain planet.

01:20:17.613 --> 01:20:19.453
Uh, and so yeah, Chris won that one.

01:20:19.453 --> 01:20:25.762
So yeah, we got three to two, unfortunately in the immediate matchup.

01:20:25.762 --> 01:20:38.515
I did not win, but hopefully the, hopefully the listeners will come to my rescue and help me out and tell me, tell Chris, tell the listeners that team airbender could kick that team hearts ass.

01:20:38.515 --> 01:20:40.087
Go Aaron Hall.

01:20:41.229 --> 01:20:43.230
Go over and haul or I'll kick your ass.

01:20:43.230 --> 01:20:46.644
All right, everybody.

01:20:46.644 --> 01:20:50.537
Thank you for listening and joining us for our battery on number six.

01:20:50.537 --> 01:20:52.378
Yeah, that was a fun one.

01:20:52.378 --> 01:20:55.551
Again, hopefully we don't wait too long to do it again, but we might.

01:20:55.551 --> 01:20:55.981
Who knows?

01:20:55.981 --> 01:21:00.095
It might be another hundred episodes next time we do it, but ah that'll do it.

01:21:00.095 --> 01:21:01.779
only 43 from the last one.

01:21:01.779 --> 01:21:07.577
uh definitely got to be like one of our more recent, you know, timeframes.

01:21:07.783 --> 01:21:10.094
The less the other window is much less, think.

01:21:10.094 --> 01:21:11.076
Right, right.

01:21:11.076 --> 01:21:14.662
Aaron, any any final thoughts on Battle Royale before we close out of here?

01:21:14.670 --> 01:21:18.350
Oh man, it's always fun to get creative and debate and discuss.

01:21:18.350 --> 01:21:30.850
And I think that one thing that's really cool is I think that one thing I really like that you do also that you bring to the Battle Royale as well is your expertise and wanting to identify these characters and their origins like story wise.

01:21:30.850 --> 01:21:41.970
So I'm going to become I'm going to get a little bit better at doing that when we do our Battle Royales going into the future because I really like that aspect because there's a bit of education that comes to it when we're having like some fun.

01:21:41.970 --> 01:21:52.762
Mm Yeah, I always love whenever I listen to these kind of episodes and the people that are doing these conversations have a little bit of knowledge, not saying that I do or but, you know, we at least make that attempt.

01:21:52.762 --> 01:21:54.153
And I think that that's really important.

01:21:54.153 --> 01:21:56.743
So uh that will do it for episode one.

01:21:56.743 --> 01:21:57.314
Ninety three.

01:21:57.314 --> 01:21:57.804
I'll do it.

01:21:57.804 --> 01:21:58.654
That will do a pig.

01:21:58.654 --> 01:22:02.576
That will do next week on the show for episode one.

01:22:02.576 --> 01:22:03.695
Ninety.

01:22:03.949 --> 01:22:04.426
Did I say one?

01:22:04.426 --> 01:22:05.166
Ninety three earlier.

01:22:05.166 --> 01:22:06.537
Damn it, everybody.

01:22:06.537 --> 01:22:07.537
I apologize.

01:22:07.537 --> 01:22:08.587
This was actually episode one.

01:22:08.587 --> 01:22:10.837
Ninety four, which doesn't really matter, honestly, like.

01:22:10.837 --> 01:22:11.762
No one keeps track of this.

01:22:11.762 --> 01:22:12.672
Just fix it in post.

01:22:12.672 --> 01:22:13.832
I'm going say 194 and.

01:22:15.213 --> 01:22:22.113
194 So this is one ninety four about around number six is one ninety four one ninety five.

01:22:22.113 --> 01:22:24.707
Aaron, we're going to be celebrating me again.

01:22:24.707 --> 01:22:31.358
You know, speaking of like one of the greatest single issues of all time, we're doing a comic spotlight on giant size X-Men number one.

01:22:31.362 --> 01:22:33.721
Giant size X-Men, Right.

01:22:33.721 --> 01:22:50.962
This is essentially that, obviously the X-Men existed before Giant Size X-Men in 1975, but you know, they became the team that we now know with Wolverine and Colossus and Storm and you know, Cyclops and other players going forward.

01:22:51.021 --> 01:22:53.421
That was kind of the team that we eventually got going forward.

01:22:53.421 --> 01:22:56.601
And it's the 50th anniversary is this year.

01:22:56.601 --> 01:23:07.774
So we thought it'd be fun to go back, look at that, that first issue again, because Aaron, as I've said, and we'll talk about it when we talk about the comic spotlight is that kind of a pretty insignificant story.

01:23:07.894 --> 01:23:12.113
The significance of the story is really about how they got the team together.

01:23:12.634 --> 01:23:15.774
So again, we'll spend an entire episode talking about giant size X-Men.

01:23:15.774 --> 01:23:16.654
I think it'll be really fun.

01:23:16.654 --> 01:23:30.274
And it's a fun way to celebrate, you know, Dave Cockrum and Len Wen and Chris Claremont in a way, because, you know, he eventually took over that team and took the X-Men train forward for the next 30 years.

01:23:30.605 --> 01:23:37.173
ah Yeah, we'll talk about that next week for episode 195 and Aaron were five episodes from episode 200, which is crazy to think about.

01:23:37.173 --> 01:23:40.015
So yeah, that'll do it for episode 194.

01:23:40.015 --> 01:24:14.126
Aaron, take and a five star rating and or review on Apple podcasts and Spotify helps the show a ton.

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You can do it right from the app.

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it right now.

01:24:17.386 --> 01:24:18.246
Do it right now.

01:24:18.246 --> 01:24:28.206
Just, know, why, why do you know, if not now, when it's not who, if not you, who I'm not going to do.

01:24:28.206 --> 01:24:29.086
I was going to, I'm going to fall.

01:24:29.086 --> 01:24:30.466
was going to fall into that trap.

01:24:30.466 --> 01:24:35.246
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