An ocean of holy water couldn't help you now! 👹 ✝️ This year for our 6th Annual Halloween Special, we are discussing the 1994 schlocky cult-classic Night of the Demons 2! We also briefly talk about Tron: Ares and Peacemaker Season 2 since we weren't able to cover either more in-depth. "Serving as a sequel to the 1988 cult classic Night of the Demons, Night of the Demons 2 takes place six years after the original massacre at Hull House. Angela’s younger sister, Mouse, now attends a strict Cath...
An ocean of holy water couldn't help you now! 👹 ✝️
This year for our 6th Annual Halloween Special, we are discussing the 1994 schlocky cult-classic Night of the Demons 2! We also briefly talk about Tron: Ares and Peacemaker Season 2 since we weren't able to cover either more in-depth.
"Serving as a sequel to the 1988 cult classic Night of the Demons, Night of the Demons 2 takes place six years after the original massacre at Hull House. Angela’s younger sister, Mouse, now attends a strict Catholic boarding school, still traumatized by Angela’s mysterious disappearance.
When a group of rebellious students trick Mouse into joining them for a Halloween party at Hull House, they unwittingly awaken Angela’s demonic spirit. As Angela begins killing and possessing the group, a courageous nun, Sister Gloria, leads the remaining students in a battle of faith versus evil to send Angela back to Hell once and for all."
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Hey, it's David Weiner, writer, director, producer of the In Search of Darkness trilogy and the upcoming In Search of Darkness 90s and In Search of Tomorrow, and a guy who's constantly on eBay trying to reclaim his childhood one toy at a time.
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And you are listening to the Oblivion Bar.
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you Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your host, Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.
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Hello kitties, welcome to episode 218 of the Oblivion Bar podcast.
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I'm the OG lead organizer of Zoey Trilling's fan club Chris Hacker and joining me is the sluttiest 30 foot demon snake, my co-host and BFF Aaron Knowles.
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What a young buck you are.
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How's about a little head, tiger?
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uh That was a great Angela voice, I was a little curious on how you'd be able to pull that out just randomly, like uh as you saw in the transcript, but that was great.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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I pride myself on my Angela voice.
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It's always fun to practice, especially at night.
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You are definitely the more eccentric.
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Yeah, you're more, better improv.
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I guess it's probably the best way to, yeah, I'm definitely not that.
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Carly calls me a noise machine, like a noise box, a noise maker.
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Like how do you make so many different sounds?
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I'm like, and that's the thing is like, do you ever, I should ask Olivia this, have you ever just like heard a sound or heard a voice and then just immediately tried to like imitate it?
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Like a vocal stem, like it gets stuck in your head.
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I'm sure I have, but it's not something I often do.
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I do it way too much.
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do it to her.
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Like I do it all the fucking time.
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Now I realize that that might be, there might be something wrong with me.
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We need to reflect on this.
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We need to get a specialist on the phone.
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But I will say before we get to that internal look, Aaron, we need to talk about something that I've been extremely excited to eventually chat about here on the podcast.
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Now, everybody, as you've clicked on this episode, you know that we are talking about Night of the Demons 2.
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This is one of my favorite schlocky horror films, B-rated horror films of all time.
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This is, course, Aaron, our sixth annual Halloween special.
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I bring it up at least every year, at least once to be like, Aaron, I sort of just test the waters and see how you feel about it.
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you you don't ever outright say no, but we always.
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I tell you no.
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How could I tell you no?
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can never.
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We've always gone to something else, which is totally fine.
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But I think this is a great year talk about this movie that I think does not get enough credit.
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I think that it is something, or I think it's an entry in a sequel to a franchise that not many people know or care about.
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But I think there's some hidden genius in there.
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And it's one that I will unironically say is a lot better than I remember it even being.
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Like I've always thought of it as sort of this stupid schlocky horror film that I, for some reason, have glommed onto because of nostalgia and...
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the VHS cover being cigarette burned into my brain, but rewatching it with fresh eyes in 2025 as a 34 year old.
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I legitimately enjoyed this for a host of new reasons.
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It's because there's a need for it and I and I could tell you this like from personal experience This is my first time watching it.
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So thank you for the introduction to this gem ah But there's also this I I actually found myself today today We're recording this October 29th and I'll tell you what I feel and I said this out loud earlier I said I have not watched enough Halloween or whatever type type movies and we're two days to Halloween not that I need an excuse to but right tis the season And it's the season's almost fucking over.
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uh like you, there's the fun ones, like, know, like Nightmare Before Christmas and, you know, Paranormal, Halloween Town, like those ones.
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And then you have ones like this where right in the middle and then you have your, you know, your, what's a scary one that's.
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Midsummer like.
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Yeah.
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Some of these fucking crazy ones, you know, and it's like, there's a need for.
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the like right down the middle and then the funny, but however, there's also a different need, Chris.
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I have, I have my own personal needs and that is to do a flash discussion on two things, Tron Aries, because we haven't talked about it on the show on the actual feed at all.
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And then also peacemaker season two.
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So I need you to give me just a few moments.
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Yeah, sure.
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And I'm glad you're bringing this up because I totally agree.
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We obviously pride ourselves in being some of the biggest Tron fans in existence, perhaps.
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Like, I'm not sure.
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Every time we talk to people about our sort of combined, but also our individual love of the Tron franchise, people are always like, yeah, I mean, I get it.
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Daft Punk made a great soundtrack.
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Like we get the digital jazz of it all.
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Sure.
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Okay.
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Whatever.
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But like we love it.
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I mean, our Patreon exclusive show, which we'll talk about here in a moment, is called The Grid.
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Our whole aesthetic is built on bio digital jazz.
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So I agree.
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Let's talk about it.
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We obviously, we were at New York Comic Con.
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We had a ton of interviews.
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Too busy.
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Yeah.
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And we wanted to get to Halloween.
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As you said, it, not only did it kind of sneak up on us, we were busy October, but I agree.
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So first let's talk about Tron Aries, which is currently bombing, which is not a surprise.
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Every single Tron has bombed in some way or another.
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But yeah, I kind of felt like this was going to happen, you know, almost from the jump for a couple of reasons.
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A.
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Jared Leto?
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I mean, need I say more honestly?
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I agree he's a weird choice, but I think we've both talked about this and we both like him in this role.
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That's sort of the juxtaposition of what we're saying here is that like, yeah, totally.
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On the surface, remember we first talked about Tron Aries, which I want to say was in the first 10 episodes of this podcast back in April of 2020, where it was announced that Jared Leto was going to be headlining this film.
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wasn't going to be Garrett Hedlund.
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wasn't, I don't even think Jeff Bridges was attached to the film at that time.
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I think Joseph Krasinski had come out and said that Jared Leto was attached to it.
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And we immediately rolled our eyes because this was around the time of the DCU or DCEU, guess, Joker.
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of it all, right?
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Suicide Squad and all that.
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Not to mention Jared Leto was just kind of a creep in general.
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So, but I agree watching this film and we actually saw the film together in New York at the Lincoln Square AMC in New York City and Manhattan.
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And we saw it on one of the largest IMAX screens in the world with our good friend Nick Donizio from the FN Nerds.
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Amazing.
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It was one of the coolest movie going experiences.
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Definitely of recent memory, but I wouldn't even dare to say of all time.
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And I feel like that's a large statement to make.
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especially about Tron Aries, a film that again has not been doing well at the box office.
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But there's nothing like everybody.
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I think if you take anything from this quick chat about Tron, if you're on the East Coast and there's a big, loud, impressive movie to be seen on an IMAX, go to Lincoln Square.
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Right, Aaron?
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It's like a truly a definitive experience.
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is just when you look at it and that was the most magical thing of that evening was actually seeing Chris kind of in awe of this massive screen because to be honest, every time I see it as well, I mean, I live here.
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So every time I see it, I'm actually impressed with the size of it myself.
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um So, mean, just it's, that's a huge pitch.
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um So it's definitely worth the trip to come up and see, you know, it really anything on that screen, if they make it for it, for IMAX.
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like they did Tron Aries, then that is the screen to see it on.
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Totally.
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Again, very quickly here, music is great.
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Obviously Nine Inch Nails, the whole team there absolutely just, Trent Reznor has been killing it just in general when it comes to soundtracks.
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He also did the criminally overlooked and criminally unawarded Challenger soundtrack that did not get awarded.
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It wasn't even nominated for best score last year.
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So anyway, point being is that it's not Daft Punk, it's not Tron Legacy.
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That's a high bar.
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Aaron, we've talked about how that's like one of our favorite soundtracks, if not.
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our favorite soundtrack of all time.
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It's like for me, it's like Boogie Nights and Tron Legacy are the two, my two favorite soundtracks ever.
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And again, seeing in that environment was incredible.
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Here's the thing, we talked about it right after as we left the theater with Nick, I had a really good time with it and I sort of compared it to it being sort of just like a fun roller coaster.
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I went in with the lowest of expectations.
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Everybody that I had heard talk about it in non-spoiler ways said the movie was horrific and that it was a CGI Disney throw up mess.
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And I was like, no, as soon as we left the theater, and I think I decided this, pretty early on before even like the halfway mark.
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was like, I'm having a good time with this movie and I don't even, I'm not gonna fight the urge to like just let myself enjoy it.
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It's one of those movies where you completely, I did the same thing.
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I shirked all preexisting notions before I went into that theater.
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And I'm like, I am here to experience this.
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And for me, there were, like, there are some things that are clearly like problematic and like plot holes and like, you know, whatever they call them, just things that I'm like, that's a choice, you know?
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But like overall, I had a great time, loved the music.
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not once while watching this film that I think that this movie looked like shit.
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This looks great.
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Not a second, not a second.
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That's hard to find in any movie these days.
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It's hard to see any movie and go at CGI just doesn't look just or that, you know, just saying it doesn't look bad, but like you don't watch movies these days in theater and say that's amazing CGI like you did with Tron areas.
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especially with like Disney recently.
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they are known for making the worst looking $200 million movies in Hollywood.
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know?
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So okay, Greta Lee's great.
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Evan Peters is great.
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I want more of Evan Peters and Greta Lee down the line.
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uh Gillian Anderson was rarely used and when she was used, it was badly, I think.
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That's one of my biggest pitfalls of this film.
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Hasan Minhaj is okay.
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Jodie Turner Smith is great.
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Pointless character.
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Yeah, yeah.
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um Jodie Turner Smith as Aries or not Aries Athena is great.
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I like her I would love to see her come back even though she is spoilers killed at the end but anyway and again as you said so I think sort of the final stamp of Tron Aries is that we're not gonna get another one of these at least not in this current format, right?
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I wish we could go more in-depth about it but I will say that I want more of this in some capacity whether it's like a Disney Plus series or a low-budget sequel to this where we bring in Sam and you bring Cora in as well and you get them all to get the band together with Aries and do a thing.
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You know, whatever, I don't care.
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Like I like this universe.
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I want more of it.
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mean, they're clearly left, there was like a mid credit scene and clearly room for more, which I mean, I think anybody that saw it and enjoyed it will want that.
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that saw it and even didn't enjoy it like totally will want more, I feel like.
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But again, I agree with whatever sense it's gonna be.
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I hope to see more of this because again, it was not, I don't think this movie deserved to buy.
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And we talked about this.
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think people who love Tron or like are sort of like interested in nerd culture and love that aesthetic of like the grid and red light, blue light, all that crap, you're gonna like this.
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I think if you have no interest, which I think a lot of modern audiences, especially in today's climate, they don't care.
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know, that's just, and Disney does not have the best, they've been losing credibility over the last couple of years with the MCU and Star Wars.
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And I think original content, this is what they do is a lot of times when Disney is failing in some capacity with their major surefire hits, they'll bring out a Tron movie and then that'll fail.
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And then people will go, wait, hold on.
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I thought Disney was making bad movies.
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What happened?
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So anyway, let's end the Tron talk.
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I'm glad we at least got it here on the show.
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Aaron, what are you going to give Tron out of five David Wieners?
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Same.
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Yeah.
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3.5 feels really solid to me.
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I think it's a really good at bat.
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It's not better than legacy.
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I think legacy is probably a four for me.
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And then I'm looking at it.
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with like different, I'm looking at it through the eye of time, the first Tron.
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Like I think if I had been there, my mind may have been blown by that movie.
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Cause if you know anything about the process of how they made the first Tron, you maybe could appreciate it in a whole nother light.
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the movie outside of the special effects and the way they created it is pretty dull in my opinion.
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But legacy I think is still the benchmark for this franchise.
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100.
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Yeah.
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All right, and let's get into the Peacebender season two really quickly here.
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This obviously came out through HBO back in August.
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It ended on October 9th when we were at New York Comic Con.
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There were, I want to say it was eight episodes, which I thought was kind of crazy.
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For some reason, I thought it was 10.
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But we reviewed Peacemaker Season 1 a couple of years ago here on the show and we both absolutely loved it.
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Absolutely.
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I think we both gave it 4.5s.
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was, at that time, I don't think either one of us had given out a five and I think it was the closest we had ever gotten to giving out a five, both of us.
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And I was excited that we got this new season of Peacemaker in a world where like that version of the DCU that James Gunn initially created, or at least set this world in with the Suicide Squad, or guess Suicide Squad, not the, is it the Suicide Squad or Suicide Squad?
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Which one is which?
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think it is.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So it's that world, but like even that's not really, that's like one of the biggest hangups in this whole second season is like what's canon and they, they pretty much highlight that immediately, right?
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Yeah, I think James Gunn came in and said if it was before anything before, I think it was anything before Superman or creature Commandos or something wasn't supposed to be Canon.
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But anything mentioned in season two of Peacemaker is Canon.
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like in Peacemaker, like the first episode, I mean, they even bring up, they even bring up like Starro, like what happens.
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the Suicide Squad is canon.
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it's supposed, I believe so from what I understood from what he said and from the way I'm taking it.
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it was mentioned in Suicide Squad Season 2.
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Before season two.
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peacemaker season two.
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Um, and then it was, or it is considered cannon now.
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And so that would consider, that would make the suicide squad cannon.
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So means Harley Quinn is still around and Rat Catcher and King Shark and all those folks.
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Anyway, initial thoughts on Peacemaker Season 2, really enjoyed it.
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I mean, I was disappointed, I'll be honest, like overall.
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Really enjoyed it to disappoint it, really.
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I really enjoy, well, okay, I said overall because watching it, I enjoyed it.
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This, it sucks having to wait for stuff weekly, but uh watching it as I watched each episode, I was really excited.
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I really enjoyed it.
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And I'll say like at the end of it though, I was slightly disappointed with it.
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So Olivia and I watched this weekly.
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We, I think loved it all the way up to the final episode.
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I think that's kind of where I started to, it just, it didn't end in a way that I found really interesting or satisfying even.
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Exactly.
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The whole, I love these characters.
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I love this group of folks that are on the show, this entire team.
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Obviously Peacemaker is one of the best parts of the DCU thus far.
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Abadayo's, she's great.
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You know, of course, Freddie Stromo as vigilante is great.
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Jennifer Holland uh as Amelia Harcourt is great.
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uh Economist Rick Flagg Sr.
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was a good inclusion in the season.
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Obviously, you get the return of Augie Smith, aka Blue Dragon in this series.
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uh Anyway, point being is that like, yeah, there's a lots of love.
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It's definitely not as good as the first season, but I think that's again kind of a high benchmark.
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I think the real question, though, Aaron, is do you like the opening better than the first season?
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No, I loved the music and the dance scene from the first season.
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I enjoyed the intro to season two, but for a completely different reason.
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And it's because in the season two entry, I can actually tell this time that they were kind of like telling the story of the actual show in the dance routine and interpret.
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Yeah, basically it was a contemporary, think is actually the name of been been side watching some dance with dancing with the stars.
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And that's our weekly segment of Aaron's current obsession.
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It's contemporary dance.
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It's not an obsession.
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I just think it's nice.
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Let's really love it.
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And I'm doing it in practicing taking classes twice a week.
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No, again, like just the fact this time that I could see that it was telling a story and I enjoyed it.
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And it was kind of like, that's like credits this time or the intro this time told a sad story, which this season was a very sad story.
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So I liked it for that, but I didn't enjoy it as much as I enjoyed the first seasons just because it was simply ridiculous and unseen.
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Yeah, it definitely, again, it sort of came out of nowhere.
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And I guess from a banger standpoint, like as a pure, just like get your juices flowing rock song.
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And of course, and I'm speaking on, do you want to taste it by wigwam?
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That's the first season.
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Wigwam.
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What did I say?
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Wigwam?
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Wigwam?
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Tomato tomato.
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And then Oh Lord by Foxy Shazam.
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Now I call this the anime effect, Aaron, and you'll appreciate this.
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And I think listeners will too.
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When Olivia and I were watching episode one of season two.
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Can I guess?
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Yeah, please.
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Yeah.
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The guess is that you thought it was a woman singing.
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That's a good guess, but no, no, it's more of like a personal feeling of when I first saw it, I was like, I don't like this.
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I like the first season.
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I mean, where's where's my friggin wigwam?
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I need I need a do you want to do you really want to taste it?
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And then like episode three, I'm like, huh, I'm kind of softening to this.
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I kind of this little bit.
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And then by like episode seven, I'm like singing along and doing the dances every time.
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Igli does his little shimmy like 20 seconds in.
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I'm like giggling and almost crying because I love Igli so much.
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So like, I guess the point my question is for like Again, just as a song, which one do you like better?
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like, do you want to taste it or do you like, Lord, better?
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Ooh, I think as a song I like, lord.
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I do too, think.
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Yeah.
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I think I like the season one opening better, as an act, but like the song is not like the, I guess the opening for season two is not, it's not far behind, but the song is better.
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Can we just agree that both seasons of Peacemaker have outstanding soundtrack?
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Yeah.
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It's a hair metal, just like man-child, like wet dream.
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That's name of the soundtrack.
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It's just...
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a boner in your whitey tighties.
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That's right.
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Driving down the highway at 95 in a 1987.
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based on your mind on fucking cocaine.
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That's right.
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Drinking a Bud Heavy.
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So anyway, the point being is that like these two themes are amazing.
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And again, as I said, we can sort of end it here because I don't have as much to say about Peacemaker Season 2 as I did Tron Ares.
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I don't feel as bad about sort of just glazing over this one, but I enjoyed it.
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I really liked it.
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I want more of this universe.
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I love these characters, but it's not as good as Season 1.
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And we're not going to get another season two of peacemaker because they are now, forget the name of the three.
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We're not going to get season three.
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Excuse me.
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Because what, what are they now?
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What's the name of their, their, their uh investigative company?
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No, One of the, yeah, because they started a team and that's going to be like the new direction for them.
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Checkmate.
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Checkmate.
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That's what it is.
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That's going to be like the new direction for whatever show or whatever they're involved in going into the future.
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That's going to be part of the DCU.
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with James Gunn.
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We do get a pretty wild cliffhanger though for the season, which of course is, and spoilers, guess for everybody who hasn't seen Peace Packer season two, skip ahead 15 seconds.
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Chris is basically kidnapped by Rick Flagg Sr.
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and the Argus team and is basically left on this planet called salvation.
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You start hearing some noises and we don't know anything about this planet outside of the fact that it has like a similar atmosphere as Earth.
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Which is interesting because the doors, don't know if those are just necessarily different earths that have, because again, you can't say that every single earth is gonna have humans.
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You can't say that every single earth is gonna have the same development.
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So we don't know if that candy, the little candy creatures are in earth or an alien world.
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Are these all just doors that are connected to whatever system this thing has that that little alien?
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There'll another planet in our world.
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Yeah, our universe.
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Yeah So we don't know if it's an earth.
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We don't know if it's not an earth, where he is.
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So there's a lot of speculation.
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ah Some people are saying that there's another planet that is just like, where he gets like, people get crazy powers or some shit.
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Like there's a whole lot of people, like go to Reddit people, just go to fucking Reddit and read that shit.
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It's good, trust me, a lot of ideas.
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Well, I trust James Gunn, Peter Saffron, this entire team.
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So, and apparently they're going to be showing, this is not really Peacemaker related, but apparently they're showing the teaser trailer for Superman Man of Tomorrow.
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Somehow they have a teaser trailer for the second Superman movie already, and they're showing it on December 1st to folks within Warner Brothers.
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It's literally just going to be like a flash of the credit.
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Yeah, it's just gonna be like, it's gonna be the John Williams score.
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It's gonna be David Corn sweat just like shining Lex Luthor's head just doing that.
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Alright, everybody.
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Aaron, out of five David Weyers, when do you have Peace Maker season two?
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I'm going to give it a three point five actually.
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Yeah, I'm gonna match you on that one as well.
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It's a solid 3.5.
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I think like...
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Yeah, we're really just like, kind of a little close on the like-mindedness here, but yeah, I think it was really enjoyable in the same way.
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I think that Tron Aries and Peacemaker Season 2 are two very different 3.5s.
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Yeah, it's like Tron Aries was projected to be a two and a half, maybe a two, and it overperformed.
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And it surprised me to the point where like I could recommend this really healthily.
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I'm at the same point, I got to the same point with Peacemaker Season Two.
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It's that I expected a 4.5, but it just didn't quite hit that mark, especially with the finale and sort of the overall arc of the story.
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So it backtracked little bit, but still very enjoyable and recommendable.
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That make sense?
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Absolutely.
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100 % agree.
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All right, that'll do it for our quick.
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Sorry.
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We did 25 minutes of that everybody but we just had to talk about Tron and peacemaker because I'm talking here we're contractually obligated to talk about nerd things here.
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So let's stop the nerd talk.
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Aaron, let's get into some sexy slutty demons.
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Everybody.
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uh I'm ready to hear Aaron's talk or Aaron's thoughts on this.
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But before we get there, before we get into now to the demons to in our sixth annual Halloween special, we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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All righty, let's talk about Night of the Demons 2.
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Before, actually, I'm sorry, I'm already getting way ahead of myself.
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Tell the folks at I'm very excited.
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I'm very excited.
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Because here's the thing.
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Something we'll talk about while talking about this movie is that there's no info on this movie, everybody.
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Go right now after this episode releases, go to YouTube, go to Google, type in, go to Letterboxd, whatever, you want, IMDB, just type in Night of the Demons 2 and see what comes up.
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It's going to be a couple trailers.
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little to no trivia and a Wikipedia page and that's basically it.
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We will be one of the top searches for this movie after we release this movie.
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Because I'm excited to talk about it because no one else cares.
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No one else cares about this movie except for me and possibly you.
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Before we get to this movie though, Aaron, tell the folks, again, sixth annual Halloween special, tell them what we've covered in the past here on the Ability...
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My face hurts.
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you guys could like, I don't know if nobody knows the pure joy of seeing like your best friend, just excited.
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Like I'm, I'm.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I do it all the time.
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Yeah.
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So our previous Halloween specials, which we'll have links to all of these in our show notes.
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So go check those out.
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But 2020, I was not there for that was a you, Chris.
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was our first Halloween special with special cohost Max Van Dongen, who joined Chris to discuss.
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their favorite unsung horror flicks.
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Funny thing about that episode everybody is A, it was like episode six.
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So very early on in the show's history, but also one of the, go and listen to it.
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It's still on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, YouTube.
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One of the movies that I recommend in that, actually, I think two of the movies that I recommend in that conversation are two of the movies that we've covered in this segment, which are Tales from the Crypt, Demon Knight.
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You're not worth the flesh you're printed on! Shit! You fucking ho-duck-po-duck-well-then-there motherfuckers! All you have to do is give me the goddamn keys! and Night of the Demons Yes, Shirley.
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Sister Gloria, is Felicia a mortalson or a venialson?
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Lashio I don't think I'm familiar with that term.
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Could you please explain to the class exactly what that means?
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What's the matter, Ms.
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Fennedy?
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Cat got your tongue?
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We're just making it through Chris's entire favorite show.
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ghosts is next year everybody.
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In 2021, we discuss Frank Hennenlotter's 1982 low-budget schlocky horror basket case.
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I feel like this was my choice.
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It was.
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Yeah.
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This was your first choice with the segment.
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And I'm happy that we watched it because that movie is just an absolute fever dream.
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It's yeah.
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It's pretty wild.
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Speaking of like this, think basket case walked so that night of the demons too could run right.
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Like, yeah, without basket case this there's no night of the demons.
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I don't think you're welcome.
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You're welcome.
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Thank you, Frank Hinton.
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In 2022, kiddies.
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I think that was pretty good.
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In 2022, we covered the first film from the Tales from the Crypt franchise.
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The, you know, earlier mentioned the aforementioned 1995 Demon Knight.
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So it was in 2023, Cunda Estrada Montase Cunda in 2023, we discovered that we discovered we covered Fida Alvarez's 2013 reimagining of the, I was going to say the evil Deb, it's not, it's just evil Deb.
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Yeah, you can't confuse the folks at home.
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The Evil Dead is the first one.
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You The Evil Dead, The Evil Dead.
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I know, sorry, you dropped the the for two.
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It's The Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness.
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ah I think it's actually Evil Dead from 2013.
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And uh then it's Evil Dead Rise, which we talked about here on the show and so on.
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So I'm still really, really...
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We actually just got like a small teaser of the next one, which I'm spacing the name of right now, but...
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ah It looks interesting and more Evil Dead the better, honestly.
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and then 2024.
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I'm coming to get you, Barbara.
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So last year we talked about Edgar Wright's first entry in the Corneille trilogy, Shaun of the Dead, which by the way, I just introduced Carly to Hot Fuzz.
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Nice.
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Now you have to watch The World's End.
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At some point I want to get Olivia into Hot Fuzz and The World's End because the Cornetto Trilogy, I think you'd even show her a couple episodes of Space.
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That's not really technically in the Cornetto Trilogy, but I think it's adjacent.
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Yeah, no, all three of those movies are great.
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And I think Shaun of the Dead is, I think we even talked about during that episode that Shaun of the Dead is my favorite, but think Hot Fuzz is your favorite.
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Is that correct?
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say so.
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Have you ever fired two guns whilst diving through the air?
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For the greater good.
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Well, let's talk about this.
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Again, this movie that I've been very excited to talk about, of the, Night of the Demons 2.
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Now, Aaron, how did you watch this movie?
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Because as I talked about a minute ago, and we'll talk about it more in depth here in a moment, this movie was sort of lost in time for a bit.
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And the reason why I, and I guess it's a little personal history on me, the reason why I have such an affinity for this movie and the reason why I still remember it to this day is, I remember very vividly going over to my mom's friend's house as a young person, as a young kid, and seeing his like wall of VHSs.
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And he had all these horror VHSs like Leprechaun and House and Halloween and like all these different VHSs.
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You've seen, if you're from the nineties, you know this wall.
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Like everybody had one of the, or some of these people had walls like this.
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And one of them was Night of the Demons 2.
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He didn't have Night of the Demons 3 or 1.
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He had 2 for some reason.
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overjoyed to see that there's a three by the way.
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And here's the thing, everybody, I'll just tell you right off the top so we don't have to talk about it.
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One is OK.
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Three is sucks.
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It just it's terrible.
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All right.
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It's not good.
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So don't watch those ones.
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Two is the beginning and end of your Neither Demons journey.
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So anyway, this wall of VHS is it's there.
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It's cigarette burning my brain this cover.
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And it just stayed with me over these years and eventually.
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Totally.
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This is this movie as we talk about it is so damning in like my preferences in a lot of things.
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And we'll get into what those things are.
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Definitely not snake demon ladies, but we'll get into it.
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Aaron, I asked you the question, I haven't let you answer it.
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How did you see the movie?
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I watched it uh just in my office on my screen right in front of me, streamed it.
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Nice.
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Amazon, I'm assuming or something of that.
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Okay.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
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It is available.
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think like, is it like 720?
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What's the quality on that one on the streaming?
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Yeah, it's not great from what I understand, but I actually, we'll talk again, we'll talk about here in a moment, but Shout Factory put out a box set of the Blu-rays and I think you can actually even watch the first one.
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You can get the 4K of the first movie, but Shout Factory, shout out to Shout Factory.
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They are often putting older sort of forgotten film, not just horror films, Scream Factory is sort of their subsection of their new distribution line where they put out Blu-rays with extra content.
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They put one out for the Night of the Demons trilogy.
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That's what I have here.
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So I rewatched it in 1080p, watched a bunch of commentaries.
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They have like the dailies, which is, shows you like the behind the scenes, the raw footage.
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And then what I thought was really cool about the box set was they had what was called like the raw, raw film where you can watch the VHS that before they remastered it.
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So you can like, it's like watching the VHS again, just, you know, obviously in Blu-ray form.
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let's not forget.
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Yeah, let's not forget to remind the listeners that they can also see some, clips and some information about this in a good friend of the show, David Weiner's, uh, in search of darkness.
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You can see some, some clips, uh, interviews, et cetera, on night of the demons too.
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Yeah, it's actually in the insert of darkness 93 94.
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I think he's doing two parts 93 94 95 through 99.
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And we had him on the show to talk about it, David.
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He's obviously our rating system and he's a horror obsessed, obsessive.
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I actually, I reached out to him to see if he wanted to comment on insert of darkness.
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And he was just so busy with insert of darkness 95 through 99 that he couldn't get to us.
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But he said, next time he comes on the show, he'll talk about nine of the demons and sort of his affinity for it leading up to the preparation of this film and discussing this film.
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went back and I rewatched that segment there and in search of Dark Dust 93 94.
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And it's really interesting to hear Angela in the film.
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The actress's name is Amelia Kincaid to hear her talk about sort of the making of and how she's like sort of the central pillar of this franchise.
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She's the only one that appears in all three of these Night of the Demon movies.
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And she truly is like the main character, even though she's used very sparingly in her Angela form in the first movie, Aaron.
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And I guess this might lead us into maybe my next question for you is she is sort of the catalyst of this demonic, know, demonic setting and like going to whole house.
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She tricks her friends in the first movie to go and have a Halloween party at this house, having already summoned this demon to possess her and then the rest of the folks in this house at this party, these high school folks.
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And I will say in a very like, I say this in a very broad way, everybody, so please don't hear what I'm not saying.
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This movie is trying really hard to be Evil Dead.
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If you, if you watch the first one, And I think you can even see it in the second one a little bit, but especially in the first one, if you watch that first one, it's really channeling its inner Sam Raimi to a point where like, if they had like maybe 20 or $30,000 more and a Bruce Campbell on set, they could have remade Evil Dead with the same story.
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Honestly, my question watching this was like, what age range is this aimed at?
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Definitely not the age that I watch it at, which is like six.
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It's probably for like your young adult.
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This was the, know, and Aaron, as you know this, like the nineties was like the era of the teenage horror.
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You're not supposed to be watching this, but you're definitely going to watch this movie.
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Yeah, like, I'm gonna sneak into this rated R PG-13 movie as a kid.
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You know, my friends are gonna let me in and or we're gonna rent it from Blockbuster because I couldn't watch it in theater and we're gonna all my friends are gonna come over.
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We're gonna watch a scary movie and get scared.
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You know, like that for me and that's where like to me it felt like this was aimed at almost a like early teenager like 12, 13, 14 because there's like there's like a super soaker in it.
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You know, and they make it seem so badass.
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Like I got a uh oozy here.
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You know, it's like the fucking super soaker, dude.
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Holy squirkin.
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Yeah, there's, but there's so much sex and like just groping and, and like more than your average, like, here's a movie where kids are going to watch it.
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Let's put some like sexy type, like a couple of, you know, boobs like, okay, I'll compare it to something like, okay.
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Camp crystal lake or Friday the 13th or something like, you know, nightmare on Elm street where there was like the gratuitous nip slip or, you know, wet t-shirt running.
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Cause they just climbed out of the lake.
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Yeah.
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This is just like, give them everything they want.
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Totally, yeah.
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It's definitely, think one of the superpowers of this movie, it's fully aware of what it's capable of and what is interesting about it.
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the first one is definitely not as horned up, but it is kind of horned up.
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Like it's like a little horned up.
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There's a character in the movie in the first one called Suzanne, who's the friend of Angela who gets possessed at one point.
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Funny enough, the lipstick that is seen in this movie is actually Suzanne's.
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she in the movie, in the first movie, when she becomes possessed, she hides that lipstick.
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she like pushes it through her, she pushes it through her areola and like hides it in there.
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It's like, apparently it's one of the most iconic sort of B horror scenes ever.
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Obviously we see that come up again in this movie and that's sort of the significance of it.
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But let me ask you another question here, Aaron.
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What are your overall thoughts on this movie?
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Because from my understanding, and you haven't really said anything about it, which I'm happy about, because I want to talk about it during this episode, but it sounds like this movie may have escaped you as a young person and you're seeing it and you're like seeing this franchise for the first time.
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I've never seen this movie before.
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I've never watched it.
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I mean, I've heard of it since you've talked about it, but I've never, I don't, it doesn't ring a bell.
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So this is really, really my first experience with it.
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And my first experience to give you a, guess a description is just like, this movie is just, I can't even, I don't even know how to describe it.
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It's like, like it just keeps going.
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Like it just keeps going and it keeps pushing the line.
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keeps like doing like, okay, what else can we do?
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What?
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How much money we have left in the budget?
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All right.
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Let's what else can we do?
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What else can we do?
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Like it just keeps going.
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No, this is Hall House.
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I'm sorry.
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You tricked me.
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No, Shirley didn't tell Sorry, babe.
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The reds was booked.
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No.
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No, take me home.
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I can't go here.
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Somebody shut her up.
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Take me home! I can't go! Shut the fuck up! Shut up! I can't go! I can't go! Maybe we should discuss this.
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Nobody knew that it was here.
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They're overruling! I think that's something that is worth saying since you mentioned it there.
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I mean, the budget was nothing.
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It was $1.4 million.
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It's essentially, you know, we talked to Chris Stuckman last week about Shelby Oaks.
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He had 1.4.
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He had a group of backers to do to that.
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Crowdsourced it.
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Yeah.
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Crowdsourced it.
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Thank you.
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Yeah.
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Crowdsourced like basically that exact budget.
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Now, obviously 1.4 million probably goes a lot further in 1994 than it does in 2025.
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But point being is that like that that's nothing.
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You can't, you can barely make a movie with that even back then.
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So I think it's really impressive what they were able to do just with that amount of budget.
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And obviously this didn't go to theaters.
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We'll talk about it here in a moment, but like this, went straight to video, but it has gained like a pretty respectable cult following.
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So I think before we go any further, Aaron, go and give a summary just in case people are listening to this and have never watched it.
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And I would not be surprised if most people have not watched this movie.
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This is my endorsement.
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I guess, as I've already, I've already talked about only to give us initial thoughts, but like this movie is particularly special to me, but for no particularly special reason outside of the fact that I remember watching as a young person.
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Like I can recognize that it's bad, you know.
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One question before I read the summary.
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Melissa or Mouse in this film, does she come in at all in the original?
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That's supposed to be Angela's sister or something?
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Yeah.
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It's basically just sort of breezed over in this film that yeah, that's Angela's sister.
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And I guess the way the story is told in the movie is that while Malice was living at home, her parents received a letter that was signed and like it was written in like blood and it was signed by Angela with like her accurate signature.
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And then like her parents just like they killed themselves.
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And then she was left to the home to St.
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I think it's St.
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Mary's is the name of the Catholic school.
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which is a school for like troubled youths, know, like people who get kids get in trouble.
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And she's like, seems like a pretty normal person, like a normal kid, a normal nerdy girl.
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So it kind of, it's kind of weird that she was brought there, but yeah, it's not really discussed and it's kind of just, you're just supposed to like accept that that's Angela's sister.
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about as much as we accept a complete like ninja nun.
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uh like one of the only attachments.
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Like there's little winks and nods, like the face in the toilet.
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That's a character from the first movie.
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And they don't tell you that.
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They don't tell you that in the movie.
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You just, had to have seen the first one to kind of know.
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The lipstick, that's another one.
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Like there are certain nods to the first movie.
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The dancing, like Angela's dancing throughout the movie.
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She has this really bad, the best part about the first movie is this badass dance scene that she has.
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This like demonic dance scene that Amelia Kincaid has in that first movie.
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And she also has a...
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one in this movie kind of on top of a table with some punch, and she has another one in the third movie.
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So like she's a dancer, clearly.
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uh But that first movie, it's pretty awesome.
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Again, callbacks to the first movie that you maybe you had to have seen to know what was going on.
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contractually obligated to put a dance scene for her into each movie.
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That's right.
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So the summary is serving as a sequel to the 1988 cult classic Night of the Demons.
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Night of the Demons 2 takes place six years after the original massacre at Hull House.
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Angela's younger sister, Mouse, now attends a strict Catholic boarding school still traumatized by Angela's mysterious disappearance.
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When a group of rebellious students tricks Mouse into joining them for a Halloween party at Hull House, They unwittingly awaken Angela's demonic spirit as Angela begins killing and possessing the group.
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A courageous nun, Sister Gloria leads the remaining students in a battle of faith versus evil to send Angela back to hell once and for all.
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Now this film was released on May 13th, 1994 on uh a budget again of $1.3 million.
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This was released direct to video, as I said earlier, and while it was initially received with mixed reviews, it was almost, it almost instantly became a home rental cult classic for horror fanatics.
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Leading into the millennium again, and this is sort of leads back to what I was talking about earlier, Aaron, is that as we drifted away from VHS, this film and sort of the larger, now to the demons franchise and a lot of these like sort of be.
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schlocky horror films and other not just horror, like I think very specifically about horror and how like those movies generally have a low budget so they can be made very quickly and cheaply.
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They all sort of fell into obscurity when we moved on to DVDs and Blu-rays because a lot of those movies weren't converted over into those newer formats because a lot of the publishing houses, the studios that made those films didn't continue on like Republic Pictures that made this film no longer existed once.
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Like it's owned by Paramount, but the actual studio that made the film no longer existed because it was absolved by Paramount, know, all those smaller, smaller publishing houses.
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Probably the film and the backups and everything like that all end up in some storage room somewhere covered in dust.
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Yep.
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And again, as I said earlier, I know I keep calling back to it, but this remained true until 2013 when physical media distribution company Shout Factory released a remastered collector box set of all three Night of the Demon films with extra commentaries behind the scenes and never before seen content.
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that's what I know.
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Hashtag not a sponsor to Shout Factory, although keep doing God's work because, you know, I would not have been able to see this film.
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I mean, I would have to probably rent it like Aaron, but I'm, I'm happy to own this set.
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You know, it's a, it's a fun sort of, talking piece in my physical media collection because as I've mentioned many times already, this is not a franchise that many people go to for A, they don't know about it and B, they don't care about it because for the most part it's not very good.
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And even the entry that I like, can recognize is not that great in a lot of ways.
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Well, and know, speaking on that Aaron, I think it'd be kind of silly of us to talk about different story beats, like go through this movie in a very like in-depth way.
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So I thought it'd be fun for me to just sort of give you a list of things that happen.
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And you just sort of tell me when you want to stop.
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Can you give me like an Angela growl if you want me to stop?
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There it is.
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Yeah, that's perfect.
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There it is.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So first five minutes of this movie, we get a reintroduction of Angela.
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She kills a couple of Bible thumpers in the cold open.
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The co-ed titty scenes almost immediately.
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get that.
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Okay.
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Again, gratuitous, like unnecessary gratuitous tits.
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there's no, it makes, and then the other thing is you got a room full of dudes just hanging out in their whitey tighties, like blinds wide open, standing there with binoculars, like so dumb.
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uh Just a homoerotic group of frat guys just real doing a bunch of grab ass, you know, listen binoculars And then the weird, dirty guy who's reading demonic stuff at a fucking Christian school.
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You know that old chestnut, right?
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Party moves to Hole House for no particular reason other than to trick Mouse into going and torturing her for being related to Angela.
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So that is of course done by Zoe Trilling's character Shirley.
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She basically tricked everyone, but specifically Mouse into going to this Hole House to torture her because she's a real jerk.
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Someone says, and Aaron, you mentioned this earlier, this place smells like Godzilla's butthole when they walk into Hole House.
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Yeah, just, all I want to say on that is that anytime you can throw Godzilla or Godzilla's butt hole into a movie, I'm for it.
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that's a plus one in our in the Godzilla butthole category Five that's right a demonic head appears in a bowl and a toilet bowl while Christine Taylor tries to use it As we talked about earlier Z boy gets possessed and then fucked by a demonic Angela There is so much like awkward sexual tension and sexual scenes in this.
00:45:32.480 --> 00:45:42.373
Like there's a lot of like random like lesbian kissing and you know, a guy getting tongued and then fucked by a ghost with nasty teeth.
00:45:42.373 --> 00:45:44.226
ah then what was it?
00:45:44.226 --> 00:45:46.847
The other one is the lipstick.
00:45:46.882 --> 00:45:47.961
we'll get to it.
00:45:47.961 --> 00:45:50.302
Stand fast on that one.
00:45:52.184 --> 00:45:52.934
It's up next year.
00:45:52.934 --> 00:46:00.081
So Shirley tries to use a Lena Quigley's Suzanne's again from the first movie, her lipstick and it penetrates her.
00:46:00.081 --> 00:46:01.726
I think that's the nicest way to put it.
00:46:01.726 --> 00:46:08.268
And this is again, calling back to the Evil Dead of it all because we get a very similar thing with those tree branches in the first movie.
00:46:08.268 --> 00:46:19.126
And then also they in the Evil Dead 2013 version, we get almost a much more similar version to this where it's like a sort of a tentacly hentai type of...
00:46:19.126 --> 00:46:20.197
Go ahead.
00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:27.253
That was the things like in at least in at least in that one, it was not like enjoyed by the victim.
00:46:27.253 --> 00:46:35.018
Like this was uncomfortable because it goes from like a very like our word scene to like, yeah, yeah.
00:46:35.018 --> 00:46:39.740
And so, and then, and then then she like starts enjoying it, I think.
00:46:39.740 --> 00:46:42.242
And then, and then there's like the kissing.
00:46:42.242 --> 00:46:45.023
It's just, it's just a weird moment.
00:46:46.143 --> 00:46:47.914
I don't know where to go from there.
00:46:47.914 --> 00:46:51.445
I'm just like, uh, And then, yeah.
00:46:51.445 --> 00:46:53.708
I need a cold shower after watching this movie.
00:46:53.708 --> 00:47:02.876
Well, speaking of horned up, you have Zoe trilling showing off some of her own moves there at the dance after she'd been after she's been possessed and her boobs also burn off Rick's hand.
00:47:03.717 --> 00:47:05.418
The boobs or the effect?
00:47:05.432 --> 00:47:08.358
The both like the practical effects.
00:47:08.681 --> 00:47:11.275
But yes, I mean, yes, both.
00:47:11.318 --> 00:47:16.001
I think it's we're saying now, and this is the only time that I'm bringing up my own sort of youth into this.
00:47:16.001 --> 00:47:21.806
Zoe Trilling owns a very special place in my heart as like, again, someone who saw this movie way too young.
00:47:21.806 --> 00:47:26.829
She represented this like really mean, perfect woman.
00:47:27.311 --> 00:47:31.273
Like this like demonic, like for a long time, everybody.
00:47:31.273 --> 00:47:36.418
And I can't believe I'm admitting this, but I feel like if I'm going to, it's going to be right here on live on the show while talking about the movie.
00:47:36.418 --> 00:47:40.909
Zoe Trilling to me was like even watching it as a 34 year old with like getting fresh eyes.
00:47:40.909 --> 00:47:44.150
She is just like, she is so fucking hot in this movie.
00:47:44.150 --> 00:47:45.349
don't know what it is.
00:47:45.349 --> 00:47:50.869
I think like Zoe trilling an RIP to her, by the way, this is a weird time to bring it up, but she has since passed.
00:47:51.070 --> 00:47:56.429
she had kind of like, this is like this and Leprechauns three were really her two big breaks in Hollywood.
00:47:56.429 --> 00:48:01.869
And she left her mark with me, especially with this entry in Neither, Evens 2 as Shirley.
00:48:02.099 --> 00:48:03.431
slippery fingers.
00:48:03.512 --> 00:48:04.614
Name's Kurt.
00:48:04.614 --> 00:48:05.695
Ladies call me King Snake.
00:48:05.695 --> 00:48:07.157
Oh really?
00:48:07.342 --> 00:48:08.724
I heard they call you inch.
00:48:11.128 --> 00:48:11.965
Yeah.
00:48:14.061 --> 00:48:15.507
Can I at get the ball back?
00:48:15.673 --> 00:48:16.554
Stop.
00:48:32.215 --> 00:48:34.211
Maybe we should throw ice water on them.
00:48:34.211 --> 00:48:40.380
oh That says a lot.
00:48:42.384 --> 00:48:43.746
No, no, I don't judge.
00:48:43.746 --> 00:48:45.826
We don't yuck anybody's yums around here.
00:48:45.826 --> 00:48:47.327
We don't we listen and we don't judge.
00:48:47.327 --> 00:48:48.188
listen.
00:48:48.650 --> 00:48:53.034
We get a really awesome suiting up scene a bitch and suiting up scene by Sister Gloria.
00:48:54.177 --> 00:48:55.079
Did you like that?
00:48:55.079 --> 00:48:57.387
That was, I mean, that was.
00:48:57.387 --> 00:49:01.387
like the scene from Batman Returns where they're like turn the butt scene.
00:49:01.387 --> 00:49:02.150
Yeah, exactly.
00:49:02.150 --> 00:49:02.641
Exactly.
00:49:02.641 --> 00:49:02.989
Thank you.
00:49:02.989 --> 00:49:03.884
It was just comedic.
00:49:03.884 --> 00:49:07.692
Like she's pulling like meter sticks uh out of her drawer.
00:49:07.692 --> 00:49:08.744
Like what?
00:49:08.744 --> 00:49:12.481
Yeah, exactly.
00:49:12.670 --> 00:49:15.873
Angela sneaks in handy on Kurt in the van.
00:49:15.873 --> 00:49:17.887
This scene was actually improvised on set that day.
00:49:17.887 --> 00:49:27.807
So that's a scene where Kurt and uh Christine Taylor's character, Terry, are making out in the van and you see Angela's hand sort of come up from the bottom in the crotch.
00:49:27.807 --> 00:49:30.018
Zip like very, very dexterous.
00:49:30.018 --> 00:49:31.778
Yes, yes, very much so.
00:49:32.059 --> 00:49:32.900
Let's see here.
00:49:32.900 --> 00:49:41.407
We get to see Zoe Trilling and Christine Taylor briefly make out and Chris's road to manhood was officially.
00:49:41.407 --> 00:49:46.630
We see Father Bob continues to believe that this whole thing is a prank and wants to go back to reading Catcher in the Rye.
00:49:46.990 --> 00:49:50.893
Johnny finds a demonic Kurt outside dribbling his own head like a basketball.
00:49:51.875 --> 00:49:55.277
We have holy water balloons slash squirt guns are OP in this universe.
00:49:55.277 --> 00:50:03.657
uh This is very, loss boys, lost boys, very, um, monster squad.
00:50:03.657 --> 00:50:10.260
Speaking of those OP squirt guns and balloons, BB hits Z-Boy in the dick with the.
00:50:10.461 --> 00:50:11.840
Yeah.
00:50:11.840 --> 00:50:20.646
Angela decapitates Sister Glory, but apparently she's made or maybe possibly turtle because she was then able to retract her head into into her robe or something.
00:50:22.628 --> 00:50:29.172
After being defeated by the OP squirt gun, police work gun, Angela returns in the form of a weird snake monster, which is a great effect.
00:50:29.172 --> 00:50:33.782
I mean, say what you want about like how silly that idea is.
00:50:33.782 --> 00:50:50.036
I think it's a great practical and like to see and hear the crew in the behind the scenes content on the Blu-ray talk about how they were able to create that with like basically floss and a seesaw and some great practical work from the uh design team.
00:50:50.036 --> 00:50:51.708
Bravo, like it's awesome.
00:50:51.713 --> 00:50:53.525
Yeah, it looks incredible.
00:50:53.974 --> 00:50:55.766
It's the best effect in the entire franchise.
00:50:55.766 --> 00:51:04.766
Like every other evil dead copy throughout this universe doesn't come close to that snake monster in the finale of this movie.
00:51:05.067 --> 00:51:08.449
Angela is eventually defeated by a cross shaped beam of light.
00:51:08.449 --> 00:51:15.500
And then all is well at the end of the film except Suzanne's lipstick is found on the side of the road by another girl and it's probably going to be penetrating her pretty soon.
00:51:15.500 --> 00:51:22.284
And then you get where the rest of the budget was spent on some kind of computer graphic snake thing.
00:51:22.284 --> 00:51:24.114
Yeah, it's very similar.
00:51:24.114 --> 00:51:25.425
again, I don't recommend this everybody.
00:51:25.425 --> 00:51:35.661
But if you watch the third now, the demons, the intro is this same, very like PS one terrible, terrible computer generated intro.
00:51:35.661 --> 00:51:38.943
It looks like eight bit, you know, that cartoon from back in the nineties.
00:51:38.943 --> 00:51:41.934
It like that kind of reboot reboot.
00:51:41.934 --> 00:51:42.184
Yes.
00:51:42.184 --> 00:51:42.474
All right.
00:51:42.474 --> 00:51:42.864
Reboot.
00:51:42.864 --> 00:51:43.373
Yes.
00:51:43.373 --> 00:51:44.547
It's like reboot.
00:51:44.547 --> 00:51:45.231
how dare you.
00:51:45.231 --> 00:51:46.436
I love that show.
00:51:47.056 --> 00:51:48.670
Do not besmirch Reboot.
00:51:48.670 --> 00:51:49.791
How dare you?
00:51:50.353 --> 00:51:52.333
I still love that show.
00:51:52.333 --> 00:51:55.057
Did I miss anything that you may be caught during the film?
00:51:55.061 --> 00:51:56.711
No, I don't think you missed anything.
00:51:56.711 --> 00:52:02.244
was just, again, it's a weird fever dream of a horror story that just keeps going.
00:52:02.244 --> 00:52:04.844
Doesn't make a whole lot of fucking sense.
00:52:04.844 --> 00:52:11.306
Sadly, the kid who you thought, like the kid you thought was gonna be like the hero of the whole thing was like dies.
00:52:11.306 --> 00:52:16.467
And it's just a lot of like, like what the fuck is happening here?
00:52:16.467 --> 00:52:19.268
But it was enjoyable to watch.
00:52:19.268 --> 00:52:21.806
I found myself enjoying it.
00:52:21.806 --> 00:52:23.989
mean, the story is like truly it's like third.
00:52:23.989 --> 00:52:24.880
It's not even secondary.
00:52:24.880 --> 00:52:26.722
Like it's titties and kills.
00:52:26.722 --> 00:52:29.246
That's like really that's first and second most important.
00:52:29.246 --> 00:52:30.114
Yeah.
00:52:30.114 --> 00:52:47.275
Also the fact that these kids choose who lives and dies by just pure like, you could pour holy water down their throat apparently and cure them, but we're just gonna fucking water balloon and shoot super soak people's dicks off.
00:52:47.275 --> 00:52:50.590
Yeah, yeah, they weren't really worried about saving anybody but Christine Taylor.
00:52:50.590 --> 00:52:51.710
Exactly.
00:52:52.353 --> 00:52:53.753
They want to bring her back for another one.
00:52:53.753 --> 00:52:55.536
I guarantee that's why that happened.
00:52:55.536 --> 00:52:57.277
Aaron, talk about the director here.
00:52:57.304 --> 00:53:01.956
So you got Brian Trenchard Smith is the director from this gem.
00:53:01.956 --> 00:53:06.518
Trenchard Smith primarily directed, made for television and direct to video films, shocker.
00:53:06.518 --> 00:53:12.202
Several of his films have garnered cult followings and have been subject to critical reevaluation.
00:53:12.202 --> 00:53:17.065
He has even been cited as one of Quentin Tarantino's favorite directors, which I think is a high accolade.
00:53:17.065 --> 00:53:20.025
uh I said, totally.
00:53:20.146 --> 00:53:24.721
I could, I could see how again for a long time and I, Aaron, I know you remember this quite well.
00:53:24.721 --> 00:53:29.375
Is that like these type of movies were just sort of thrown to the side and we're like, this sucks.
00:53:29.375 --> 00:53:31.896
Like what, who thought this was a good idea?
00:53:31.896 --> 00:53:37.322
And then now we look at it with new eyes and a new, like after a couple of decades and we're like, Oh, I see.
00:53:37.322 --> 00:53:42.945
This was never supposed to be this like great looking thought provoking.
00:53:43.061 --> 00:53:44.494
Citizen Kane type of movie.
00:53:44.494 --> 00:53:45.987
This was supposed to be fun and hot.
00:53:45.987 --> 00:53:51.797
That's all they wanted to do was have a good time on set and make a couple bucks and see some titties.
00:53:51.797 --> 00:53:53.838
I think that's really the goal of this film.
00:53:53.838 --> 00:53:57.018
So Chris, I'm going to go down his notable works.
00:53:57.018 --> 00:53:57.478
Okay.
00:53:57.478 --> 00:53:59.318
And then you tell me if you've seen it or not.
00:53:59.318 --> 00:53:59.797
Okay.
00:53:59.797 --> 00:54:00.197
Okay.
00:54:00.197 --> 00:54:03.157
So the Siege of Firebase Gloria from 1989.
00:54:03.717 --> 00:54:04.338
Okay.
00:54:04.338 --> 00:54:12.206
Night of the Demons 2, Leprechaun 3, I have seen Leprechaun 4 in space, 96.
00:54:12.206 --> 00:54:18.626
I feel like I've seen it in passing on SyFy, I don't have the Blu-ray.
00:54:19.297 --> 00:54:21.429
sat down to watch it in totality.
00:54:21.429 --> 00:54:24.447
If not on my letterbox logged list, okay.
00:54:25.144 --> 00:54:27.925
Happy face murders from 1999.
00:54:28.085 --> 00:54:28.806
Okay.
00:54:28.806 --> 00:54:31.226
Britannic 2000.
00:54:31.226 --> 00:54:37.126
Megiddo the Omega code to Yikes Aztec Rex 2007.
00:54:38.186 --> 00:54:38.365
I don't know.
00:54:38.365 --> 00:54:41.045
It feels like the Aztecs brought back a Tyrannosaurus Rex.
00:54:41.045 --> 00:54:42.722
I'm curious what that's about.
00:54:42.722 --> 00:54:44.233
It's exactly what you're saying.
00:54:44.233 --> 00:54:45.264
Yeah, it's exactly that.
00:54:45.264 --> 00:54:47.498
Like it's literally just that.
00:54:47.498 --> 00:54:53.755
place in 1521 off the coast of Mexico, a group of Aztecs worship and make sacrifices to a pair of Tyrannosaurus Rexes.
00:54:53.936 --> 00:54:55.358
Until one is reborn.
00:54:56.789 --> 00:55:03.143
Called it drive hard 2014 I have not, but this has John Cusack in it and Thomas Jane.
00:55:03.143 --> 00:55:04.704
So that's interesting.
00:55:04.704 --> 00:55:05.355
Okay.
00:55:05.355 --> 00:55:18.829
then, yeah, so Christie Harris, Bibi, Zoe Trilling, Shirley, and Merle Kennedy, Mouse, they would go on to make uncredited cameo appearances in Brian Trenter Smith's next straight to video horror sequel, Leprechaun 3 in 1995.
00:55:18.829 --> 00:55:22.018
Quickly, Aaron, which entry of Leprechaun is your favorite?
00:55:22.018 --> 00:55:25.442
Probably, uh, let the, you know, leprechaun in the hood.
00:55:25.442 --> 00:55:26.324
Leprechaun of the Hood.
00:55:26.324 --> 00:55:28.646
What's the, does he go to Vegas at one point?
00:55:29.130 --> 00:55:30.693
That's the one I like, I think.
00:55:30.693 --> 00:55:31.954
Is that number two?
00:55:32.922 --> 00:55:34.322
I don't know.
00:55:34.322 --> 00:55:35.121
I don't know.
00:55:35.121 --> 00:55:35.753
Warwick Davis.
00:55:35.753 --> 00:55:37.123
Shout out to Warwick Davis.
00:55:37.634 --> 00:55:39.213
Warwick Davis, the Willow.
00:55:39.213 --> 00:55:39.708
That's right.
00:55:39.708 --> 00:55:40.690
Fucking everything.
00:55:40.690 --> 00:55:42.202
Like that guy's the man.
00:55:42.242 --> 00:55:43.496
Well, since we're talking about...
00:55:43.496 --> 00:55:47.000
em Not me, not Omini.
00:55:47.041 --> 00:55:48.182
You.
00:55:49.501 --> 00:55:50.902
Aaron, talk about the cast here.
00:55:50.902 --> 00:55:54.574
Because again, I think this is maybe one of most interesting parts about this movie.
00:55:54.574 --> 00:56:18.670
All right, so you got Amelia Kincaid as Angela Franklin, Christie Harris as Bibi, Zoe Trilling as Shirley Finnerty, Jennifer Rhodes as Sister Gloria, Christine Taylor as Terry, Merle Kennedy as Melissa Mouse Franklin, Darren Hiemz as Z-Boy, Robert Jane as Perry, Rod McCrary as Father Bob, Johnny Moran as Johnny Shocker, Rick Peters as Rick, wow, they went hard on these, Lad Yorks as Kurt.
00:56:18.670 --> 00:56:19.811
Why don't they just name him Lad?
00:56:19.811 --> 00:56:20.382
Lad York?
00:56:20.382 --> 00:56:21.101
Just keep him Lad.
00:56:21.101 --> 00:56:25.067
All right, Aaron, this is going to be real.
00:56:25.067 --> 00:56:30.121
Well, before we get into the weird, before we get weird, um particular character that you.
00:56:30.121 --> 00:56:34.677
OK, who is the hottest girl and who's the one guy you've you found the least insufferable?
00:56:34.677 --> 00:56:38.813
I'm probably going to say the bad girl who's Zoe Trilling?
00:56:39.393 --> 00:56:41.077
Are you talking about Angela?
00:56:41.077 --> 00:56:43.760
No, no, no, ah Zoe Trilling.
00:56:44.922 --> 00:56:48.076
I almost want to say Johnny, because he was like in it the least.
00:56:48.076 --> 00:56:49.730
Yeah, that's, yeah.
00:56:49.730 --> 00:56:53.056
He's always like, father Bob, let me do my demonic things.
00:56:53.056 --> 00:56:53.838
Yeah, yeah.
00:56:53.838 --> 00:56:56.168
I just want to, I just want to summon a demon.
00:56:56.168 --> 00:57:03.012
I did it! I did it, Father! I did it! I summoned a demon! That's the inflection that I have there is exactly how he talks.
00:57:03.012 --> 00:57:06.184
He's like, but father Bob, that's how he talks the entire movie.
00:57:06.184 --> 00:57:08.746
And he clearly has the hots for mouse at one point.
00:57:08.746 --> 00:57:16.170
He's kind of the reason this happened because had he not had that demonic book, uh Zoe Trilling's Shirley character would not have stolen it.
00:57:16.170 --> 00:57:23.494
I'm not absolving her of any agency here, but like she is a dick and like he was, you fuck around, you find out.
00:57:23.494 --> 00:57:25.666
Like he was, he's the catalyst of this whole movie.
00:57:25.666 --> 00:57:29.228
So yeah, Zoe Trilling, course, as I said, is like sort of a...
00:57:29.228 --> 00:57:34.329
She's a, she's on the Mount Rushmore of Chris's hot girls, whatever that means.
00:57:34.329 --> 00:57:37.103
That means nothing to everybody, but like that's just, it's a fact.
00:57:37.103 --> 00:57:42.427
um She's like up there with like Topanga, like Danielle Fischl and Jennifer Lawrence.
00:57:43.148 --> 00:57:44.307
Yeah, that's what I've heard.
00:57:44.307 --> 00:57:46.710
Olivia, my actual, the actual love of my life.
00:57:46.710 --> 00:57:48.440
She has told me that.
00:57:48.440 --> 00:57:50.092
then let's get weird, Aaron.
00:57:50.092 --> 00:57:51.295
You ready to get really weirded out?
00:57:51.295 --> 00:57:52.456
Cause I'm sure you don't read this.
00:57:52.456 --> 00:57:55.596
And I don't think the listeners know this, but I found this out during the commentary.
00:57:55.596 --> 00:57:59.115
So Christie Harris, who plays BB, sort of the central character in this film.
00:57:59.115 --> 00:58:02.527
She accepted the role of BB when she was only 16 years old.
00:58:02.527 --> 00:58:03.467
Yikes.
00:58:03.586 --> 00:58:07.668
She had uh just turned 17 during the filming of this film.
00:58:07.768 --> 00:58:15.690
That means that the scene that we see in this film where she has sex at the whole house with, I want to say, it Rick or Kurt?
00:58:16.451 --> 00:58:18.371
They don't, but we do see some boobs.
00:58:18.371 --> 00:58:18.990
do see.
00:58:18.990 --> 00:58:19.351
True.
00:58:19.351 --> 00:58:23.333
That's just really odd that they would do that and that like everyone on set thought that was a good idea.
00:58:23.333 --> 00:58:31.940
And to be fair, hearing Christie Harris talk about it in like behind the scenes stuff, she was totally on board and she eventually did a ton of other topless scenes throughout her career.
00:58:31.940 --> 00:58:35.222
But like at 16, no one said no.
00:58:35.222 --> 00:58:42.349
Like no one thought, no one thought to be like, come on guys, like let's all be the adult in the room and not make her do this.
00:58:42.509 --> 00:58:46.251
You know, and just speaking on that, we'll get, there's more titty facts, Aaron.
00:58:46.251 --> 00:58:50.054
Kristen Taylor is obviously by far the most famous person in this film.
00:58:50.054 --> 00:58:54.168
She had already been making spot appearances on television, like on Saved by the Bell.
00:58:54.168 --> 00:58:56.581
And she was in the Nickelodeon show, Hey Dude.
00:58:56.581 --> 00:58:58.626
This was only her third film though.
00:58:58.626 --> 00:59:00.706
This is her first sort of, I guess, co-starring.
00:59:00.706 --> 00:59:02.987
She was mostly a background character in other films.
00:59:02.987 --> 00:59:05.280
She would, of course, go on to become Marsha Brady.
00:59:05.280 --> 00:59:06.170
Marsha.
00:59:06.690 --> 00:59:10.692
The next year in the Brady Bunch movie and then the Very Brady sequel.
00:59:10.753 --> 00:59:17.795
And then the year after that, in the same year of the Very uh Brady sequel or whatever it's called, she would co-star in The Craft as well.
00:59:17.876 --> 00:59:23.900
One of our fun loving jocks, Rick sarcastically refers to her in the film as Marsha.
00:59:23.900 --> 00:59:26.550
This is before she's even cast as Marsha Brady.
00:59:26.550 --> 00:59:28.012
So that's not really interesting.
00:59:28.012 --> 00:59:37.320
And then during the casting process of this film, Christine Taylor was initially cast because she's attractive and she was offered, she refused to show her boobs.
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:38.550
Like she was not gonna do it.
00:59:38.550 --> 00:59:41.112
Everybody shows her boobs in this movie except for her and Mouse.
00:59:41.112 --> 00:59:44.755
uh And she was asked to do that and she refused.
00:59:44.755 --> 00:59:50.061
They even offered her double her salary to have like a 10 second topless scene.
00:59:50.061 --> 00:59:52.242
She still refused, still got the part.
00:59:52.242 --> 00:59:55.985
But I just found that really interesting that she was the only one that sort of stood her ground and refused to do it.
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And then last fun fact here we have is that Amelia Kincaid, who of course plays Angela and sort of the central character of this franchise.
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She has an uncredited role in 1989's, Patrick Swayze classic Roadhouse, one of my favorite movies of all time.
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She plays a sexy background dancer at the double deuce.
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So, all right, Aaron, again, there's not really much else to talk about.
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You know, we talked about sort of the experience of it all, you know, the fun facts.
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Again, we're going to have, this episode is going to have the most info about this movie.
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on the internet, like undeniably.
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So I guess, how do you want to round out this conversation about Night of the Demons 2 and sort of our Halloween special?
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Like, is there anything else left to say about the second entry of a franchise, of a B horror franchise?
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Are you happy that we chose this this year for our Halloween special?
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I'm not upset.
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I'm not mad.
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Like I'm okay with it.
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I don't really know how to approach that.
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uh You said something really interesting earlier where you said that like you needed this.
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I'd love for you to sort of expand on that.
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Why did you need Nine of the Demons 2 at this exact moment?
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think it's because I realized that like, again, I had not been watching a lot of like horror films and I had not been, and I, I needed, I needed like a good, silly, stupid horror film.
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Cause I was at that time, it was like, I'll tell you this, cause the other night, maybe my, was it last night?
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Last night watched together James Franco and I forget her name all the time.
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I did not like it.
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I watched it too.
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I did not enjoy it whatsoever.
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It's neon.
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So neon usually puts out at the very least, they thought interesting movies and that movie had some cool ideas, but didn't love the, especially the ending.
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didn't love the.
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Didn't like the ending at all.
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enjoyed the movie itself.
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Did not like the ending.
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Again, I'm a person who needs like a good resolution when it comes to what's going on in the plot.
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And I did not get that that, that weirdness at the end, the assumption that's left up to the audience or, or, know, whomever, like it was just kind of like, but I wasn't in the mood for something lighthearted, but I needed something that was a little bit scary, like with like some of the fun, probably Evil Dead-esque.
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like this, I needed this.
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This was a good medium for continuing that Halloween feeling at a moment where I was like, didn't really need either other end of the scary spectrum.
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Yeah, I think I'll end our conversation on this I think I've made my feelings on this movie pretty apparent and I hadn't seen the first and third one until For preparation for this conversation and I'm again.
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I won't recommend people to go watch that first and third one There's actually a remake Aaron from 2009 as well that is from I understand way worse than even those other entries so And it doesn't it doesn't have any of the cast from this like it's a totally complete reboot with the girl from American pie.
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So my point, I think, I guess my final thought on this movie is that this type of movie, as silly and sort of slutty as it is, there's value, I think here.
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Like there is something to be taken from this genre, the sort of comedy horror.
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I think it's really easy and sort of, I think a bit lazy to look at movies like this and go, wow, that's stupid.
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This has no value whatsoever.
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I just, I very much disagree with that sort of notion.
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And I pushed back on it only because I was that person for a very long time.
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And I thought that like these movies were just trashy B movies that can just be lost in the ether of time.
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like, hearing the people that made this movie, think I got, I already was starting to grow an appreciation for these types of movies, the like sort of schlock, large in part to this show.
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And like our shared sort of experiences with these types of movies.
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But I think it really hit home when listening to the folks that made this movie talk about it.
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Like you hear anybody talk about this movie, the people who were involved.
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and they have nothing but great experiences.
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Like it was fun for them to make this movie.
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That's a lot rarer than we sometimes imagine in Hollywood.
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Like a lot of people go and make movies for paycheck or for exposure or to further their career in some other way.
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It's very rare that you get to make a movie that you're really excited about and that you have fun doing.
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And I think, again, at the very least, I know that that happened.
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And if I can find some enjoyment in this and still like still find enjoyment in it in my mid thirties and 2025.
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then I'm really happy to have always had like a nice sort of rose colored glasses on while looking like while viewing this movie.
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Because again, as I said, I sort of had this idealized version of this movie in my head and to re approach it again and watch it and sort of look at it even with like a little bit of an analytical eye and like do some research.
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It was a really fun experience.
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I'll just, that's kind of my long-winded way of saying that.
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Yeah, I love that.
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I think that's a great way to put it.
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I think it's a great way to look at just that that era of films and that style of filming, that style of story writing.
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So I really actually appreciate that perspective.
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Yeah, and at the end of day, Halloween's supposed to be fun, right?
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Like, it's not all supposed to be hereditary.
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Like, I love hereditary and midsummer and Rosemary's Baby and these like very self-serious, thought-provoking horror films.
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But like, when I think of horror, when I think of Halloween and like movies, you talked about how like you haven't watched as many horror films as you had liked leading up to Halloween.
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We're releasing this the day of Halloween, as we do every year.
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Olivia and I made a very distinct effort to watch a ton of horror films.
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And I think the majority of our films that we chose were sort of like...
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comedy horror or like at least ones that have like a bit of levity to them and aren't so self-serious because those like very deeply serious horror films can like drain on you mentally and in the current world that we live in right now in 2025, we do not need more of that, you know?
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It's the levity I think is what I think we need.
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So at least that's what I think.
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Yeah.
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I'm so glad you could join us on this very special occasion.
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we really can't stay.
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We've just come from Melissa.
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We're taking her home with us.
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Melissa?
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you mean Miles?
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Well, I'm afraid you're mistaken about that.
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You see, Miles is home, and so are you.
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Or hadn't you figured that out yet?
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This place is not a home.
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It is.
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That's why I let you make it all the way up here.
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To the inner sanctum.
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The very threshold of infinity.
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Let us know everyone who you're who's the hottest girl in this movie.
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Do you guys watch the movie and then tell us or guy or yeah.
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Hey, if you got a hot guy, if you like Lad, AKA Kurt in the film, or you like Father, Father Bob, or even if you like uh Johnny and his weird demonic obsessions, let us know.
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We love to hear it.
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So I think that'll do it for our Halloween special this year.
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They'll do it for now.
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The demons too.
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We can put that one to bed.
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Angela can finally rest easy in her weird catacomb.
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uh What was that crematorium?
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thing that's in her basement.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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Well, that'll do it.
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Like I said, uh, next week, Aaron will be talking to speaking of iconic, someone that we greatly respect and love.
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Kelly Sue DeConnick joins the show, Aaron next week to talk about her and Davey Lopez's excellent dark horse punk rock series.
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FML.
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That's right.
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We talked to Kelly a couple of weeks ago.
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Issue seven comes out here.
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I think in a couple of weeks, maybe the week of that I released this episode, possibly the week after if everybody, if you're not reading FML, My gosh, like I mentioned this, Aaron, during our New York Comic Con panel.
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FML is, I think, like the comic for me.
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It's like, it's my 2025 comic.
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I've read other great comics, but if you were to ask me like, what's a comic that I've just, felt was sort of made for my particular very specific, even niche-y preferences in comics, inside jokes, panel layouts, all the things.
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Kelly Sue and Daveve absolutely kill it with FML.
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So I just cannot recommend people enough to go check out their Dark Horse series, FML.
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Yeah, they've got a definite hotline to like how to how to write and portray emotions and to reach emotions.
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I definitely enjoyed reading it as well and I'm excited for the next issue.
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They tap into this idea of what it's like to be sort of a millennial that's going into parenting and what like how we still very vividly remember what it's like to be a youth, be one of the teeny boppers.
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But like that's no longer us, you know, but also at the same time, what it's like to be a young person in today's world and how tough that, how it has its own hurdles.
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I think the interesting, interesting thing about it though is, and I'm sure you're probably starting to see this and starting to realize this is there were things that were popular, like our parents, when we were kids, they were like, those are popular.
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used to wear those when I was a kid, like bell bottoms and them big chucks and things like this.
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And then, you know, when we're a kid, we're like, no, shut up.
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Like it's, it's cool.
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this is just right.
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Now we look at these young kids and they're wearing the same stuff from the nineties.
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They're wearing.
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know, punk rock clothing.
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They want to be punks.
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They want to wear chucks like, you know, studded belts are back.
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You know, those were huge when I was in high school.
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And it's like what Kelly Sue is writing is that perspective of us hitting that age where it's like, holy shit, it's our turn.
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Yeah.
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And like fashion and like sort of culture is cyclical.
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It will circle back at some point.
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Like we will, we will hit a problem.
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We'll get past it and then we'll re-approach that problem in another way down the road, both individually and just like as a people, as a, as a species.
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Um, we're currently seeing that with fascism.
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So hopefully we get past that eventually.
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But, uh, anyway, Kelly talks about Kelly and Dave, did you talk about that quite a bit during the.
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during that series and even in our conversation, we get pretty political at one point and we even talk about a bunch about the military.
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So make sure you guys tune in for that episode 219, but I think that'll do it for our sixth annual Halloween special, Kitties.
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And we have done it, Aaron.
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So I'm gonna hand it off to you.
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Take us out of here.
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All right.
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Thanks for being here, Chris.
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had a good time talking.
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One of your favorite movies of all time.
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Finally got it out of your goddamn system.
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call it sex machine.
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Halloween special.
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Make sure you guys stay safe out there for Halloween.
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Have a nice spooky day.
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Get lots of candy.
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Watch a scary movie.
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From dusk till dawn is a Halloween episode?
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Hey, next year?
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All right, everybody, thank you so much for joining us.
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It's like Doctor Who.
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Bye, everybody, we'll see you next year.
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Bye-bye.