100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:06,860Hey everyone, this is Jennifer Hale and you're listening to the number one show on the Citadel the oblivion bar podcast200:00:06,860 --> 00:00:08,860I should go300:00:08,860 --> 00:00:36,620Welcome to the oblivion bar podcast with your host Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles400:00:36,620 --> 00:00:42,860Hello everyone, welcome to episode 111 of the oblivion bar podcast the official podcast of the fantasy shop in st500:00:42,860 --> 00:00:43,580Charles, Missouri600:00:43,580 --> 00:00:49,060I am Chris Hacker and we have your co-host here and joining me this week as he does every single week my BFF700:00:49,340 --> 00:00:52,780Aaron Knowles Arby's doesn't give free lunches Chris800:00:54,420 --> 00:01:00,580What what Arby did Arby's doesn't give free lunches, all right, where does that come from it's from our topic today900:01:00,580 --> 00:01:08,420Okay, that's so that is extremely obscure and does that talk they talk about that in the show and1000:01:08,900 --> 00:01:16,860We're talking about the last of us today. And did they say that during the series? It's literally the first like it's in the scene where where1100:01:18,220 --> 00:01:22,280It's in the most beautiful scene of the entire show, you know1200:01:22,820 --> 00:01:28,980Nick Offerman's character Frank says it to Bill. Okay. All right. I don't remember that I you want to start over1300:01:28,980 --> 00:01:30,980No, that's fine. Okay1400:01:31,920 --> 00:01:33,920Well, give it a hand we're gonna keep it in oh1500:01:36,320 --> 00:01:42,180Everybody so Aaron I were talking before we started the show today and we have not done a normal episode in so long1600:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,880Chris honestly, I can't even think of the last time that we actually did a like a full-on regular episode1700:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,720What I was never afraid before you showed up1800:01:50,560 --> 00:01:54,300Okay, there's a good recovery. Good job. That is definitely the last of us1900:01:54,300 --> 00:01:59,460So like you said we are talking about the last of us the brand new hit series from HBO Max2000:02:00,420 --> 00:02:05,060Aaron pretty much binge the entire thing the last couple days. I'm very curious to hear your thoughts. So tired2100:02:07,060 --> 00:02:12,260We've had a busy couple weeks, right? Let's kind of go over things before we get into the patreon and forget the news and notes2200:02:13,060 --> 00:02:19,060So we had an official comic drop Fanta Road number one by Christian Ward the official drop on what not went really well2300:02:19,060 --> 00:02:21,780We had a lot of cool people shout out to beachside hobbies for2400:02:21,780 --> 00:02:27,060Rating us at one point. We just had like a hundred hundred random people just pop into that was insane2500:02:27,060 --> 00:02:32,340Beachside hobbies like literally brought the thunder. Yeah, it was really awesome. So shout out to beachside and2600:02:32,940 --> 00:02:37,700Shout out to Christian Ward for being here and just enjoying it and also like really given the people2700:02:37,940 --> 00:02:41,900Good information terms of like his process and and kind of how he created this cover for us2800:02:41,900 --> 00:02:43,140He's such a nice dude2900:02:43,140 --> 00:02:48,980Like I'm so jealous that you've known him for so long compared to how long I've known him. He's such a nice dude3000:02:48,980 --> 00:02:51,900So he's a sweetie. He's a sweetheart3100:02:52,420 --> 00:02:57,340He's like competing with Daniel Warren Johnson as maybe one of the nicest people in the US for us3200:02:57,340 --> 00:03:02,260Like he just he offers so much of himself to his fans and people that he knows that really love his work3300:03:02,260 --> 00:03:06,140And that's how we became friends. He and I and it's just it's been very3400:03:06,660 --> 00:03:09,140It's been a great friendship thus far and also3500:03:09,460 --> 00:03:13,060We could not have picked a better artist to do this cover for us or Fanta Road number one3600:03:13,060 --> 00:03:15,060Like it just turned out so well, who's a better friend?3700:03:15,060 --> 00:03:19,500Yeah, I mean you I you're my best friend. Okay, don't worry Christian is not coming for your best friend title3800:03:19,500 --> 00:03:24,860But if he asked me to be his best friend, I might do it. All right. No, I'm just joking3900:03:24,860 --> 00:03:28,580He's in the UK. I can't even I can't even go see I you can be pen pal across the pond4000:03:28,580 --> 00:03:33,940I will fly to the UK and I will like pick a fight with him just because like I'll stake my claim4100:03:34,460 --> 00:03:36,460That ass is mine. That's right4200:03:37,020 --> 00:03:41,940Well before we get into our review of the last of us, let's go and talk about patreon4300:03:41,940 --> 00:03:45,740Aaron patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod. That's how you can support the show4400:03:45,740 --> 00:03:52,340It's kind of speaking on the whatnot cover that we got for Phantom Road number one all patrons that one-on-one got one for free4500:03:52,340 --> 00:03:53,340So there's an incentive for you4600:03:53,340 --> 00:03:58,460If you were kind of on the fence about whether you want to support us on patreon now is the time to get in because we do4700:03:58,460 --> 00:04:01,860Send out stickers. We send out t-shirts4800:04:01,860 --> 00:04:06,980If you support us at the highest here and you get a free comic now a comic that's extremely rare and also for a comic that4900:04:06,980 --> 00:04:08,980Has gone to second print5000:04:08,980 --> 00:04:15,180Phantom Road note, there's no more first prints out. It's only second prints and we have the most exclusive version of that first print5100:04:15,180 --> 00:04:19,540but and we got a few of them and we will be selling more of them and so be on the lookout for those because5200:04:20,340 --> 00:04:27,780You know we throw up a whatnot stream. You're not gonna find a first print really anywhere. Yeah, that's exactly right5300:04:27,780 --> 00:04:31,460So along with all that for your contribution of supporting us over on patreon5400:04:31,460 --> 00:04:37,100You could get access to the grid which is Aaron eyes kind of oblivion bar after don't you know5500:04:37,100 --> 00:04:39,140Eyes kind of oblivion bar after dark5600:04:39,140 --> 00:04:41,560We like to talk about things that we wouldn't generally talk about here on the show5700:04:41,560 --> 00:04:46,040They're there box we can like call it a hoot and a half over here in Indiana who nanny moved here5800:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,380It's a it's a real hoot nanny. It's a cornucopia of hoots if you will. It's a veritable5900:04:51,180 --> 00:04:53,180plethora of6000:04:53,460 --> 00:04:55,460hoots and hollers6100:04:56,260 --> 00:04:59,460So yeah, that's probably the best way to describe the grid6200:04:59,860 --> 00:05:04,360So you talk to us grid you talked about episode transcripts? No, not yet6300:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,320You know, you get episode transcripts things that were you know6400:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,940The way that Aaron I stay on track here on the oblivion bar6500:05:10,980 --> 00:05:13,780We those are our transcripts that we create for each episode6600:05:13,780 --> 00:05:18,180You will have access to that you basically will be able to follow along on the show with us, right?6700:05:18,180 --> 00:05:21,060Mm-hmm. You also get a special shout out which Aaron will do here in just a bit6800:05:21,620 --> 00:05:26,300For every single oblivion bar episode. So once again patreon.com forward slash a billion bar pod6900:05:26,300 --> 00:05:29,280Please check it out. If you want to support the show, that's a great way to do it7000:05:29,280 --> 00:05:34,220So without further ado Aaron, we haven't done in a while. Let's go ahead and get into our news and notes7100:05:44,060 --> 00:05:48,160All righty our news and notes are sponsored by whatnot you we just we were just talking about them7200:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,580But whether you are looking to buy or sell comics Funko pops trading cards or even shoes7300:05:52,580 --> 00:05:59,020What not has you covered you can download what not any iOS or Android device and please use the referral link in our show7400:05:59,020 --> 00:06:01,300Notes to get $15 upon sign up7500:06:01,300 --> 00:06:03,660So that's free money for you7600:06:03,660 --> 00:06:07,380If you go into our show notes right now and click that link and sign up for whatnot7700:06:07,460 --> 00:06:11,900Also, you're already gonna go and bookmark our show for that Phantom Row number one7800:06:11,900 --> 00:06:18,120So why not go ahead and get $15 for free right Aaron? Yeah, and that basically pays for your comic right there7900:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,320So yeah what not buy sell and go live. Yeah, that's right8000:06:21,320 --> 00:06:26,340So a little bit of sad news kind of starters off here John wick and the wire star Lance Reddick8100:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,720Passes away at 60 years old8200:06:29,160 --> 00:06:34,720So very tragic. It was it really honestly swept the entire internet the day that it happened8300:06:34,720 --> 00:06:36,720It was it was very out of nowhere8400:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,780Officials still actually don't even know what the cause is of the death8500:06:40,120 --> 00:06:47,160But according to TMZ the actor's body was found at his home the morning of March 18th and law enforcement believes that he may8600:06:47,160 --> 00:06:53,960Have died from natural causes so redic has been probably one of the most prolific character actors in Hollywood over the last8700:06:53,960 --> 00:07:00,320You know decade or so appearing in high-profile films and TV shows including the wire Bosch fringe8800:07:00,720 --> 00:07:02,720lost Oz8900:07:02,720 --> 00:07:07,920And probably his most memorable performance as Sharon over on the John wick franchise9000:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,240Which Aaron we were talking about this before the for the recording here9100:07:11,240 --> 00:07:17,360John wick for comes out next week this guy passes away a week before a big big movie for him this year9200:07:17,560 --> 00:07:20,440It's extremely sad. So what are your thoughts Aaron?9300:07:20,440 --> 00:07:26,560We're what is your relationship with mr. Reddick and what's the first, you know performance that you think of when you think of this actor?9400:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,560So I would say for me it was fringe9500:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,560He was just like a one of them9600:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,820I think he was in almost every single episode of fringe except for like two or three9700:07:36,820 --> 00:07:42,740And a great actor in that lost. I love lost obviously great in the John wick series9800:07:43,060 --> 00:07:49,660Yeah, and I would say out of anybody that I've seen in a lot of these series like like when you he9900:07:49,660 --> 00:07:54,420He has a he is iconic like you you know him you see his face. You're like, oh there he is10000:07:54,620 --> 00:07:57,220You know, and so Lance reddick also10100:07:58,260 --> 00:07:59,340destiny10200:07:59,340 --> 00:08:05,700You know, he was such a prominent character like he was one of the commanders of the Guardians in10300:08:05,700 --> 00:08:07,700Destiny and I10400:08:08,460 --> 00:08:10,980Didn't participate but I do know that there was a huge10500:08:11,540 --> 00:08:18,500Like memorial like event that occurred in the game that the the game developers like like put together10600:08:18,940 --> 00:08:22,380Like not sloppily, but just did it real quick and got together in memoriam10700:08:23,100 --> 00:08:28,220So he was a he was apparently playing the day before he passed. So his character was still in the world10800:08:28,260 --> 00:08:32,540yes, and people were like basically like you said kind of created like a10900:08:32,540 --> 00:08:34,940Memorial around his character and that's just really awesome11000:08:34,940 --> 00:08:38,380You know, that's a that's a great way to immortalize him the thing that's really interesting for me11100:08:38,380 --> 00:08:40,700It's like I actually saw like I read an article about it11200:08:40,700 --> 00:08:47,500It was talking about how there was an award show that he was apparently invited to but decided not to go to and he11300:08:47,980 --> 00:08:51,580Tweeted a picture of himself and his his dogs11400:08:51,980 --> 00:08:56,780You know, he's like sitting there in his bathrobe with his dogs like on his lap and it's just like I11500:08:57,340 --> 00:09:01,900I wonder if he knew yeah something, you know again natural causes is very common11600:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,780Natural causes is very vague. I'm sure we'll learn more as time goes on11700:09:04,780 --> 00:09:08,460But I think the best way that we can kind of go about this is just remember11800:09:08,620 --> 00:09:12,620You know the type of actor that he was a type of man. He was genuine genuine man11900:09:12,620 --> 00:09:14,260I mean you never heard anything bad about him12000:09:14,260 --> 00:09:18,900You just I mean you listen to all look at all the posts and and what everyone's saying about him in Hollywood12100:09:18,900 --> 00:09:22,260he was apparently was just the nicest guy ever so it really is unfortunate and12200:09:23,260 --> 00:09:29,280Hopefully John Wickford does really well and this raises this raises some awareness for how amazing he was as an actor12300:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,500So Aaron, why don't you go and take us into our next bit of news a little bit of a lighter piece of news here12400:09:33,500 --> 00:09:37,260So Stephen youn talks about joining Marvel's Thunderbolts12500:09:37,780 --> 00:09:45,660Pretty excited about this the walking dance alum. Steven Nguyen is set to make his big debut in the MCU in the Thunderbolts film12600:09:45,860 --> 00:09:47,860His casting was first announced12700:09:48,060 --> 00:09:54,300And described as being not only significant to the film, but also could play a role going forward in future films of the MCU12800:09:54,300 --> 00:10:00,820You and talked about joining the film to Empire and he said I don't know if it was explicitly on my bucket list12900:10:00,820 --> 00:10:04,180It was more of the story getting to work with Jake Shrier again13000:10:04,580 --> 00:10:11,020Who directed beef and what what his intentions were the intentions of the particular character that they wanted me to play were very clear13100:10:11,020 --> 00:10:13,020And that's what drew me to this film13200:10:13,940 --> 00:10:17,260Nguyen joins an ensemble of a cast and Chris13300:10:17,260 --> 00:10:23,940I mean you're already many people already know about the Thunderbolts you got Sebastian Stan is Bucky Barnes David Harbor is Red Guardian13400:10:23,940 --> 00:10:29,060Which I'm extremely excited about Julie Lewis Dreyfus as contestant Valentina Allegra de Fontaine13500:10:29,580 --> 00:10:34,380Otherwise, otherwise, no, I'm pretty sure she's Madame Hydra. Madame Hydra is what we're kind of thinking13600:10:34,380 --> 00:10:39,740Yeah, it hasn't been as explicitly said but the purple and the black and the very like sneakiness13700:10:40,100 --> 00:10:44,180Very much alludes for her to be some part of some faction of Hydra13800:10:44,180 --> 00:10:49,260Yes, Wyatt Russell is John Walker aka US agent or the old guy from up13900:10:49,260 --> 00:10:56,540Hannah John came in as ghost which good to see her back. Yeah, that's the that's she's the phasing one from yeah from14000:10:56,540 --> 00:10:59,420From Ant-Man and the Wasp which I'm pretty excited about14100:11:00,060 --> 00:11:05,060Olga Curry Lenko as taskmaster, which I'm excited to see her back14200:11:05,060 --> 00:11:12,380I'm excited to see taskmaster back because taskmaster and Olga as the actress or I guess as the as the as the character14300:11:12,380 --> 00:11:17,580Not the actress but Olga gets like she gets come comes back. She I feel like her character14400:11:17,580 --> 00:11:24,060Was cheated like taskmaster very sure handed is so such a prominent character in in Marvel14500:11:24,860 --> 00:11:25,740Oh14600:11:25,740 --> 00:11:28,860The the the the capabilities of Olga is gonna be amazing14700:11:28,860 --> 00:11:34,780I hope they really well really well and also we don't actually even know that it's Olga playing taskmaster this time around remember14800:11:34,780 --> 00:11:38,940This character was kind of a plate like they basically just placed a body in14900:11:39,500 --> 00:11:46,060And they kind of like transformed the mind to do. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yes master does and of course is taking place in present-day15000:11:46,060 --> 00:11:49,100Whereas the Black Widow movie took place in early 90s. So15100:11:49,740 --> 00:11:54,940Could be someone else. I mean it's very possible that it could be cura lingo again, but could be someone else completely15200:11:54,940 --> 00:11:59,820Which I know a lot of people were kind of you know, the incels were upset about the the gender swap15300:11:59,820 --> 00:12:03,420It doesn't really matter taskmaster is awesome regardless of what gender you are15400:12:03,420 --> 00:12:09,180But I'd love to see her come back and get a redemption for sure from what happened in Black Widow and last but not least15500:12:09,900 --> 00:12:13,420We're gonna just say Chris's favorite character my muse15600:12:13,420 --> 00:12:15,420Florence Pugh is15700:12:15,740 --> 00:12:22,700Yelling at baloney. Yeah, Yelena below. Yelena. The one the one thing I'm sad about but also15800:12:23,980 --> 00:12:29,820Excited for is the recasting of General Thaddeus Thunderbolt Ross from yeah15900:12:29,820 --> 00:12:31,820John Hurt to Harrison Ford16000:12:32,460 --> 00:12:37,340So I'm pretty excited about that Ford will also be in Captain America New World Order16100:12:37,900 --> 00:12:41,100And the Thunderbolts is set to premiere on July 26, 202316200:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,100and Chris and I had a16300:12:43,580 --> 00:12:48,620Minor discussion with a few disagreements prior to the show. We should have just saved it for the show16400:12:48,620 --> 00:12:51,980Yeah, we should I told you I say everything content. Um, who do you think is gonna?16500:12:52,540 --> 00:12:56,380who do you think Stephen yin yuen is going to be playing in Thunderbolts and16600:12:57,820 --> 00:12:59,740I feel bad because like, you know16700:12:59,740 --> 00:13:05,260One of the one of the the characters that I am excited to see would like to see especially, you know16800:13:05,260 --> 00:13:11,420It's Amadeus Cho and and which I said was not possible. It's not possible but but16900:13:12,060 --> 00:13:15,500Chris is not in charge of the MCU. I17000:13:16,140 --> 00:13:20,700Okay spoiler alert. I am not saying there's a chance. So you're saying there's a chance17100:13:20,700 --> 00:13:26,700Yeah, yeah, I hope it's Amadeus Cho because I don't think we have enough hulks Chris thinks we have too many hulks17200:13:26,700 --> 00:13:32,460We have too many hulks to name all the hulks and we've got we've got Bruce Banner, right Bruce Banner Jennifer Walters17300:13:32,460 --> 00:13:37,100You got um, damn it. You got abomination. I forget what his you know17400:13:37,740 --> 00:13:43,020And then you have then you're gonna have Harrison Ford's, uh, you know, Thaddeus Ross. He's gonna be Red Hulk17500:13:43,900 --> 00:13:48,060And then who knows I mean, obviously that's the other thing. I have scar from the end of she hawk17600:13:48,060 --> 00:13:52,940Yeah, this could absolutely lead into a world war hulk situation. Sure. Yeah17700:13:53,660 --> 00:13:55,660Bring on the shell baby17800:13:56,620 --> 00:13:59,180Okay, so I will say that17900:13:59,180 --> 00:14:06,460I think the the the sexy answer right now is century everybody wants century in the marvel universe18000:14:06,940 --> 00:14:10,940Century if you're not familiar is basically this character who is put through a similar18100:14:11,500 --> 00:14:14,220Program as the weapon X but it goes extremely wrong18200:14:14,780 --> 00:14:20,780Um, it's he was experimented on around the same time that man thing was so they've they've basically veered off so hard18300:14:20,940 --> 00:14:25,900From what weapon X was originally to where they're now just like let's just see what fucked up thing we can do18400:14:25,900 --> 00:14:29,340To these people and what hap let's just see what happens, right?18500:14:29,740 --> 00:14:33,100They fucked around and they found out because century is essentially18600:14:33,740 --> 00:14:37,100Just superman in the marvel universe, but with two18700:14:37,660 --> 00:14:42,860Very different personalities and in most comic runs like jeff lemire's you actually don't know18800:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,940If the void which is this other version within the century's brain18900:14:47,820 --> 00:14:53,100Is an actual entity you don't know if he's actually crazy or if that is an actual like darker19000:14:53,100 --> 00:14:57,900Being inside of him a lot of creators will play with that and I think that would be a really compelling19100:14:58,220 --> 00:15:01,100character to bring into the MCU not only with the thunderbolts because19200:15:01,660 --> 00:15:06,140There was a run by bryan michael bendis called the dark avengers where19300:15:06,700 --> 00:15:10,140A bunch of villains it was right after the events of the original civil war19400:15:10,460 --> 00:15:16,540Where all the heroes were kind of scattered or dead or just like on the run because of the superhero registration act19500:15:17,100 --> 00:15:20,060That norman osborne actually recreated the avengers19600:15:20,060 --> 00:15:23,020with villains, so it looked like heroes19700:15:23,020 --> 00:15:28,780It looked like iron man. It looked like captain marvel. It looked like spider-man, but in reality it was the scorpion it was19800:15:29,420 --> 00:15:33,580Norman osborne in the iron man suit that's actually where iron patriot comes from if you remember from iron man 219900:15:33,580 --> 00:15:40,060And also you had century on the team as well who is a good dude, you know, the the character of century is a good dude20000:15:40,860 --> 00:15:45,820Robbie rayes is his name. Excuse me. Robbie rayes. That's um, that's ghostwriter. Yeah, robbie reynolds20100:15:45,820 --> 00:15:50,540You love your little ration marvel. We all know this uh, robbie reynolds is a good dude, but20200:15:51,100 --> 00:15:53,580Anytime that the void takes over it's dunzo20300:15:53,580 --> 00:15:58,940He is just on a rampage and I think that would be really fun for steven to come in and play that character. Okay, that's20400:15:59,740 --> 00:16:01,980That's an insurance insurance nightmare20500:16:03,100 --> 00:16:06,940And actually that's kind of like the big plot line in that dark avengers storyline is20600:16:07,260 --> 00:16:13,100Every time these villains because like bullseye is hawkeye and you've got you've got what's called the dark avengers20700:16:13,100 --> 00:16:18,540Well, you know, the name of the character is darken. I think that's what you're talking about. Okay, so20800:16:20,060 --> 00:16:25,420You know, the bullseye is hawkeye and you've got you've got wolverine's son who i'm forgetting his name right now20900:16:25,420 --> 00:16:30,780But he plays he's walking dakin. Yeah, it could be yeah, I think it is dakin or however you say his name21000:16:31,180 --> 00:16:35,020But anytime they go somewhere they just complete they just make complete mayhem21100:16:35,340 --> 00:16:40,300I want some kind of like scoring system that every time I come up with a comic name21200:16:40,300 --> 00:16:44,700I want to be like oh my gosh, I have a comic name I have a comic name21300:16:45,260 --> 00:16:49,740I have a comic name. I have a comic name. I have a comic name. I have a comic name21400:16:50,140 --> 00:16:52,140I've got this thing right here21500:16:52,860 --> 00:16:57,820And that's from now from now on whenever aaron does something when he does something surprisingly like21600:16:58,300 --> 00:17:02,300Really awesome. I can't think of we're gonna hear this21700:17:03,580 --> 00:17:05,580I'll include that in posts. So21800:17:05,580 --> 00:17:08,040comic book properties out right now, which is invincible. Right.21900:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,520Incivile. I cannot wait. When do we get? Sorry. That's a topic for22000:17:11,520 --> 00:17:13,880now. We don't even know. Honestly, they've released a teaser, but22100:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,680they were saying sometime this year. Honestly, I am tired of22200:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,920waiting as well, but I'm willing to wait for that show. Like it22300:17:20,920 --> 00:17:25,320needs to be perfect. My heart will go on. All right, let's go22400:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,280into our last bit of news here, Aaron, which is Ben Affleck22500:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,640says that the Justice League was the worst experience and it's22600:17:30,640 --> 00:17:35,040why he did not direct the Batman. So as many know, Affleck22700:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,240was developing a standalone Batman movie for around two22800:17:37,240 --> 00:17:40,240years and that he was actually going to direct. And then all22900:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,720of a sudden he dropped out of the project. Not long after23000:17:43,720 --> 00:17:45,580dropping out, Affleck explained that one of the reasons he23100:17:45,580 --> 00:17:49,420stepped away from the Batman is from, excuse me, not the Batman.23200:17:49,420 --> 00:17:52,440He was directing a Batman film and he didn't want to overlap23300:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,840with the Batman, which is of course with Matt Reeves and23400:17:54,840 --> 00:17:59,640Robert Pattinson. So, but now in present day, 2023 in a recent23500:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,180interview with THR, he gets brutally candid about why he23600:18:03,180 --> 00:18:06,380dropped out of the Batman. And another reason was the Justice23700:18:06,380 --> 00:18:09,940League was the worst experience of his movie making career. He23800:18:09,940 --> 00:18:12,540said here in a quote, you can teach a seminar of all the23900:18:12,540 --> 00:18:15,940reasons why this is how not to do it, ranging from production24000:18:15,940 --> 00:18:19,440to bad decisions to horrible personnel tragedy, just ending24100:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,980with the most monstrous taste in my mouth. Affleck continued,24200:18:22,980 --> 00:18:25,680but I was going to direct a Batman and Justice League made24300:18:25,680 --> 00:18:27,840me go, I'm out. I'm never, I never want to do this again.24400:18:27,840 --> 00:18:30,880I'm not suited. That was the worst experience I've ever seen24500:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,780in the business, which is full of some shit experiences. It24600:18:33,780 --> 00:18:37,580broke my heart. There was, there was an idea of someone,24700:18:37,580 --> 00:18:40,880Joss Whedon coming in, like I'll rescue you and we'll do it in24800:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,58060 days of shooting and I'll write a whole thing around what24900:18:44,580 --> 00:18:48,080you have. I've got the secrets and it wasn't secrets. That was25000:18:48,080 --> 00:18:53,280hard. So yeah, Ben Affleck coming out, no holds barred,25100:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,780pretty much saying, fuck you DC. And you can't blame him.25200:18:55,780 --> 00:19:00,080Honestly, you know, Aaron, as someone who was like the, the25300:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,780show hater for Zack Snyder and anything that has to do with25400:19:02,780 --> 00:19:06,680Zack Snyder's DC universe. I really liked that flick and I25500:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,080would have loved to have seen him in other hands because the25600:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,280only two versions, the only two times we got to see bat flick25700:19:11,280 --> 00:19:15,980on film was Batman V Superman, Dom justice, which is today a25800:19:15,980 --> 00:19:19,580fucking travesty and justice league and the Zack Snyder25900:19:19,580 --> 00:19:21,980justice league ultimate. We'll see him for five minutes in the26000:19:21,980 --> 00:19:25,180flash. We do see him for five minutes in the flash. Yes, we26100:19:25,180 --> 00:19:28,580do. And that, and actually it says here that in those five26200:19:28,580 --> 00:19:30,980minutes of the flash, Ben Affleck says he finally figured26300:19:30,980 --> 00:19:34,280out how to play the character and I nailed it. And after that26400:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,280we shouldn't expect to see Affleck and any other DC project26500:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,680going forward. The flash actually hits theaters on June26600:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,38016th, 2023. So don't get the26700:19:42,980 --> 00:19:44,480Well, I remember it was already delayed. It was supposed to26800:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,380come out in November of last year and it got delayed again.26900:19:46,780 --> 00:19:48,480It'll get delayed again. Yeah, we're going to, we'll be27000:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,580watching in December of 2023 for sure. So, uh, Aaron, just27100:19:52,980 --> 00:19:56,480obviously this is not good. This is not a good look for the27200:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,180DCEU or what, what it was. And we kind of already saw the27300:19:59,180 --> 00:20:01,480writing on the wall a long time ago, but what are your thoughts?27400:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,780What is your, actually, what is your attachment to Batfleck?27500:20:03,780 --> 00:20:06,180Did you have a good time with him when he was in the universe?27600:20:06,180 --> 00:20:08,880I really enjoyed him. Okay.27700:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,280Bat, Bat, okay. I keep wanting to call him Batfleck.27800:20:13,280 --> 00:20:13,880Mental gymnastics.27900:20:14,380 --> 00:20:18,480Ben Affleck is not somebody that you can like look at and28000:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,480be like, could he be Batman? Like he's28100:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,980I mean, for a minute he was, for a second he was.28200:20:23,980 --> 00:20:26,380I'm saying like, like if you, if it was, if you were in the28300:20:26,380 --> 00:20:28,980DCU and you looked at him and said, is he Bruce Wayne?28400:20:28,980 --> 00:20:32,680Like that's Bruce Wayne. Is he Batman? No, like he was28500:20:32,780 --> 00:20:34,780fucking ripped in that movie.28600:20:34,780 --> 00:20:39,280That crossfit, you know, he was ripped and like, how do you28700:20:39,280 --> 00:20:43,180not look at Bruce Wayne being the monstrous like figure28800:20:43,180 --> 00:20:45,780that he was in that movie and not go that's fucking Bruce.28900:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,680That's Batman. Like, yeah, he's wide. He's built like a29000:20:49,680 --> 00:20:51,480fucking like a Mack truck shit.29100:20:51,480 --> 00:20:55,680Brick house. Yeah, like he so so for me, I would say that29200:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,480was the only thing that wasn't like believable for me.29300:20:58,480 --> 00:21:00,280I think he did a phenomenal job.29400:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,780He was kind of an asshole.29500:21:01,780 --> 00:21:04,880He was brooding. He was very much like I would say if he29600:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,780took after any other Batman, it would have been the the29700:21:08,780 --> 00:21:11,880the you know, Batman the animated series, Kevin Conroy's29800:21:13,080 --> 00:21:14,880maybe the one towards the end.29900:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,980Yeah, the Batman like kind of leading into Batman Beyond.30000:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,180Yeah, I would say like that was that was where he maybe30100:21:21,180 --> 00:21:24,080took a lot of his because he was just kind of dark and30200:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,180brooding and less of a silly billionaire.30300:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,380And and so I but I liked it.30400:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,580I really liked it and maybe a little too brooding at times,30500:21:34,580 --> 00:21:36,480but that's we always say that about Batman.30600:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,280We always see he's so that's also Snyder as well.30700:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,580Yeah, the Batman he wanted.30800:21:40,580 --> 00:21:43,480I mean, look, look at Robert Pattinson.30900:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,180That dude was brooding. That dude was.31000:21:45,180 --> 00:21:48,180Yeah, that guy was I'm brute.31100:21:48,180 --> 00:21:52,980He was he was one eye shadow mark away from being like31200:21:52,980 --> 00:21:57,280complete emo. Yeah, no, you know exactly like yeah,31300:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,780they should have my chemical romance playing in the Batcave31400:21:59,780 --> 00:22:01,68024 7 in the Batman.31500:22:02,580 --> 00:22:04,380But again, I enjoyed both of those.31600:22:04,380 --> 00:22:05,780I enjoyed both versions.31700:22:05,780 --> 00:22:08,880I really did and I'm excited to see him and what his five31800:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,380minutes of amazing Batman.31900:22:11,380 --> 00:22:12,980What do you figured out you could play really excited about32000:22:12,980 --> 00:22:13,680these five minutes?32100:22:13,680 --> 00:22:13,980Yeah.32200:22:15,780 --> 00:22:17,180Yeah, like I said, Affleck's awesome.32300:22:17,180 --> 00:22:18,980It really sucks that he got the short on the stick with this.32400:22:18,980 --> 00:22:20,880I know he really really wanted to play this character.32500:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,680He's like been a longtime superhero fan.32600:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,680He he was like campaigning for Batman for a long time and32700:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,880when he finally got it, it just so happened that he was under32800:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,680the thumb of Zack Snyder, which is really unfortunate.32900:22:32,680 --> 00:22:33,580It's the same with Henry Cavill.33000:22:33,580 --> 00:22:35,480It's the same thing with Gal Gadot who apparently we're33100:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,780going to see here soon and Shazam for some reason.33200:22:37,980 --> 00:22:40,080So let's let's give it to Nicolas Cage.33300:22:40,080 --> 00:22:40,980He wanted it right.33400:22:40,980 --> 00:22:42,080Yeah, we'll just go to Nick Cage.33500:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,480Well, Nick Cage want to be Superman, but you know, whatever33600:22:44,480 --> 00:22:46,980any either way he needs to be Superman in the DC Universe33700:22:46,980 --> 00:22:49,480and then Batman Noir or not Batman Noir Spider-Man Noir33800:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,280Spider-Man the Marvel Universe.33900:22:51,380 --> 00:22:53,680I like to light matches and let them burn down to the34000:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,980bottoms and feel the pain when they burn my finger.34100:22:56,280 --> 00:22:57,180So I can feel something.34200:22:58,980 --> 00:22:59,380All righty.34300:22:59,380 --> 00:23:00,680Well, that'll do it for our news and notes this week.34400:23:00,680 --> 00:23:01,080Aaron.34500:23:01,380 --> 00:23:03,480Thank you to what not once again for sponsoring our news34600:23:03,480 --> 00:23:03,980and notes.34700:23:03,980 --> 00:23:06,780Make sure you use that link in our show notes to get $1534800:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,680off or not actually not even off.34900:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,980You just get $15 to use in the what not app.35000:23:10,980 --> 00:23:12,080It's free money people.35100:23:12,280 --> 00:23:12,680Jesus.35200:23:12,680 --> 00:23:13,080That's right.35300:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,880Why do we have to keep telling you just go get your free money35400:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,280free money click the gun already.35500:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,480Let's go ahead and get into our review of The Last of Us.35600:23:22,480 --> 00:23:24,380But before we get there, Aaron, let's go and take a quick35700:23:24,380 --> 00:23:26,080break and we will be right back.35800:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,080What up folks Joe here and I want to take a quick second35900:23:29,180 --> 00:23:31,880to tell you about my podcast the Kyber culture.36000:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,780We are a weekly fandom pod that talks everything in movies36100:23:35,980 --> 00:23:40,280television video games science fiction and fantasy novels36200:23:40,280 --> 00:23:44,280and of course Star Wars our shows available wherever you36300:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,680get your podcasts and you can check us out on social at36400:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,680Kyber culture.36500:23:48,680 --> 00:23:53,580That's KYB ER and the word culture hope to see you there36600:23:53,680 --> 00:23:54,880and may the force be with you.36700:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,680Hey everyone Aaron Knowles here co-host of the Oblivion36800:24:00,680 --> 00:24:01,780Bar podcast.36900:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,880Have you ever wondered how you can support those who have37000:24:03,880 --> 00:24:07,380served or serve our country currently if you have listen37100:24:07,380 --> 00:24:10,180up shred the stress is a nonprofit that I started which37200:24:10,180 --> 00:24:12,880is dedicated to supporting the mental emotional and physical37300:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,980health of our military communities using one wheels electric37400:24:15,980 --> 00:24:17,980scooters and other personal electric vehicles.37500:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,180You can support several ways following us on social media37600:24:21,380 --> 00:24:24,580at shred the stress on all platforms donating to PayPal37700:24:24,580 --> 00:24:28,680dot me forward slash shred the stress or even choosing shred37800:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,680the stress as your Amazon smile 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00:25:28,180Somewhere out West.39600:25:28,980 --> 00:25:30,080They're looking on a cure.39700:25:31,280 --> 00:25:33,080I think what really impressed them was the fact that I didn't39800:25:33,080 --> 00:25:34,180turn into a monster.39900:25:34,180 --> 00:25:36,680She so much as torches.40000:25:45,380 --> 00:25:46,280Taking you with me.40100:25:47,380 --> 00:25:48,580Do what I say when I say.40200:25:51,380 --> 00:25:53,780Got any advice on the best way West?40300:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,680Yeah, go East.40400:25:59,680 --> 00:26:00,880You come this far.40500:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,580Then you know what's out there.40600:26:06,580 --> 00:26:07,780You're not going to scare us.40700:26:08,580 --> 00:26:09,580Scared him?40800:26:17,180 --> 00:26:19,780You have a greater purpose than any of us could have ever imagined.40900:26:19,780 --> 00:26:27,080Be careful who you put your faith in.41000:26:32,880 --> 00:26:33,880It might not be her father.41100:26:34,480 --> 00:26:35,280She was someone's.41200:26:35,280 --> 00:26:45,280Trust me.41300:26:57,380 --> 00:26:58,380Alrighty, Aaron here.41400:26:58,380 --> 00:27:02,080We are talking about HBO Max's brand new series, The Last of41500:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,180Us spoilers ahead.41600:27:03,180 --> 00:27:07,280If you have not seen The Last of Us yet, which was Aaron 72 hours41700:27:07,280 --> 00:27:11,680ago, make sure you stop here and you go watch the series before41800:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,680you listen to this review because we are going to go spoilers41900:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,180AF.42000:27:14,580 --> 00:27:17,680So as we do, Aaron, every time we review anything here on the42100:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,880show, initial thoughts on The Last of Us.42200:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,280So actually we should probably before we get into our initial42300:27:22,280 --> 00:27:26,480thoughts, we should probably go ahead and say that Aaron, have42400:27:26,480 --> 00:27:27,680you played the video game before?42500:27:27,680 --> 00:27:33,280I've played about 10 to 15 minutes into the game.42600:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,280Mind you, this game came out in 2013 everybody and I will also42700:27:37,280 --> 00:27:39,180admit that I have only played the first one.42800:27:39,180 --> 00:27:41,780I haven't played any of the DLC and I have not played part two.42900:27:41,780 --> 00:27:45,980Aaron is funny because actually I think The Last of Us, the43000:27:45,980 --> 00:27:49,580first installment was kind of the end of my video game playing43100:27:49,580 --> 00:27:53,680like hardcore gaming, you know, going going into yeah, going43200:27:53,680 --> 00:27:57,580into the end of the PS3 that the life of the PS3 is43300:27:57,580 --> 00:28:00,280kind of where I hopped off, you know, I was very much in the43400:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,480video gaming whether it be online play or I would just whatever43500:28:03,480 --> 00:28:04,380the latest game was.43600:28:04,380 --> 00:28:05,180I was picking it up.43700:28:05,180 --> 00:28:06,580I was very much in the video games.43800:28:06,580 --> 00:28:10,580I guys and I think I just popped off with The Last of Us because43900:28:10,580 --> 00:28:11,380popped off it.44000:28:11,780 --> 00:28:12,480I popped off.44100:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,680Yeah, I popped off and I hopped off because it was I popped44200:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,780locked and dropped it out of there because The Last of Us is44300:28:20,780 --> 00:28:23,680just one of the greatest video games of all time.44400:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,380I think like you ask anyone and we'll talk about it here in44500:28:26,380 --> 00:28:29,080just a bit with their accolades and the critical acclaim awards.44600:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,980So many awards like it's kind of insane how many awards it44700:28:32,980 --> 00:28:35,780won some of them that they won before the game even came out.44800:28:36,080 --> 00:28:39,080But once I played that game, I was kind of out, you know, I44900:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,180eventually bought a PS4 but it was very much just like way45000:28:42,180 --> 00:28:44,480after the fact after the PS4 already been around for a while45100:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,480and I was just done with it.45200:28:45,780 --> 00:28:48,180So all that being said, Aaron, what are your thoughts here45300:28:48,180 --> 00:28:48,980on this new series?45400:28:48,980 --> 00:28:50,580Could you kind of win in a little bit cold, right?45500:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,080You could say I went in cold, but I also went in like a like45600:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,980a bad out of hell just to get it done coming in hot.45700:28:58,380 --> 00:29:04,480So if like it like I okay, I feel it was good.45800:29:04,880 --> 00:29:06,680I feel like there's a butt coming though.45900:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,680Is there a butt coming at the end of this sentence?46000:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,480I it was I swear to God, if you say something bad about this46100:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,080series, I'm going to come to this camera and smack you.46200:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480I just I okay, it was really good.46300:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,180The first half was amazing.46400:29:20,180 --> 00:29:22,880The first half of the season was amazing and the second half46500:29:22,880 --> 00:29:25,880kind of just like fizzled a little bit for me.46600:29:26,380 --> 00:29:28,480I don't think they really knew exactly where to end this.46700:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,180Yeah, because there is a very definitive thing that happens46800:29:32,180 --> 00:29:35,280at the end of the first game that they could not include46900:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,480in the first season of the show mostly because a certain47000:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,280character had to be around longer.47100:29:40,580 --> 00:29:41,280I'll just say that.47200:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,180Yeah, I won't say I already know what it is.47300:29:43,580 --> 00:29:44,180You know what it is.47400:29:44,180 --> 00:29:45,980Yeah, should we spoil what happens in the game?47500:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,980I mean, we did we do a spoilers Ahoy spoilers Ahoy.47600:29:48,980 --> 00:29:49,380Okay.47700:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,280I don't know though because I don't want to spoil season47800:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,780two though for people.47900:29:53,280 --> 00:29:54,080That's the thing.48000:29:54,080 --> 00:29:55,680I want to make sure that people have a good experience.48100:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,480We don't even know how they're going to do season two.48200:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,780I know, but I'm almost positive that they're going to do48300:29:59,780 --> 00:30:02,080whatever this is at the at some point in season two.48400:30:02,580 --> 00:30:03,380Well, hold off.48500:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,080I'll tell you what we'll talk about at the very end.48600:30:05,080 --> 00:30:06,680Just remind me to go back to it because I don't want to48700:30:06,680 --> 00:30:07,380say forget.48800:30:07,480 --> 00:30:08,280Yeah, we will.48900:30:08,780 --> 00:30:10,380We're going to fucking forget.49000:30:10,780 --> 00:30:13,080But my initial thoughts is that it's incredible.49100:30:13,080 --> 00:30:16,980This is like a true Marvel and today's you know, the landscape49200:30:16,980 --> 00:30:18,480of amazing television.49300:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,580We are in the golden age of television right now.49400:30:20,580 --> 00:30:22,980And this is this is the moniker at the top.49500:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,780This is like peak television.49600:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,780This is it's not perfect.49700:30:26,780 --> 00:30:28,480Don't I don't think I'm about to give it a five out of five49800:30:28,480 --> 00:30:32,080David a whiners, but it is near perfect in a lot of aspects.49900:30:32,380 --> 00:30:35,480We're going to get into some of what you know, someone who50000:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,580is a fan of the property and a fan of these, you know, these50100:30:37,580 --> 00:30:40,580actors Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey shout out Game of Thrones50200:30:40,580 --> 00:30:44,980alum, but I will say that from a technical standpoint, that50300:30:44,980 --> 00:30:47,780is really what pushes it over the edge for me watching this50400:30:47,780 --> 00:30:51,180show. There's nothing that looks as good as this show on50500:30:51,180 --> 00:30:52,080television right now.50600:30:52,180 --> 00:30:54,780Let me ask you this though as as the person who's played the50700:30:54,780 --> 00:30:55,480video game.50800:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,280Do you think that that contributed to you liking it more50900:30:59,280 --> 00:31:03,380than I did maybe a little I think I would be I would be51000:31:03,380 --> 00:31:05,580hyper bowl if I was if I would be a little hyper bowl if I51100:31:05,580 --> 00:31:09,480said that this me my love for the property probably enhances51200:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,080my watching experience that being said though, I think some51300:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,380of the very distinct differences they changed from the video51400:31:15,380 --> 00:31:18,280game to the series also made it really good.51500:31:18,680 --> 00:31:21,480Again, there are certain things that happen, you know, during51600:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,080that show or excuse me things that happen during the video51700:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,280game that don't happen in this series and I just I everything51800:31:28,280 --> 00:31:28,580about it.51900:31:28,580 --> 00:31:31,680I loved I don't know the acting is incredible Bella Ramsey52000:31:31,880 --> 00:31:35,780as Ellie is spot-on right and when they announced Pedro52100:31:35,780 --> 00:31:36,680Pascal is Joel.52200:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,780I was thinking, okay, you know, this is again before the Pedro52300:31:39,780 --> 00:31:42,580Pascal like craze started happening.52400:31:42,580 --> 00:31:46,080We all liked him still because of Game of Thrones and I was52500:31:46,080 --> 00:31:46,580daddy.52600:31:46,680 --> 00:31:47,380Yeah, he's daddy.52700:31:47,380 --> 00:31:49,480He's I think they call I think the kids call him zaddy.52800:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,480I don't know what that I don't know what the difference is52900:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,380between daddy and zaddy is but he is definitely both of those53000:31:54,380 --> 00:31:56,480things but daddy is a state of mind.53100:31:56,480 --> 00:31:57,280You know what I'm saying?53200:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,080I'm your daddy.53300:31:59,380 --> 00:32:00,680Am I the daddy is daddy.53400:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,080Yep.53500:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,280I am your cool slutty daddy.53600:32:03,380 --> 00:32:04,480I just don't understand.53700:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,980Why do you make sparkly fast romantic montages of me every53800:32:07,980 --> 00:32:08,880single day?53900:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,080I would you like to ride home on a real cowboy.54000:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,780I got a six pack of cold ones all night so my room is out all54100:32:13,780 --> 00:32:14,080night.54200:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,280You can scream my name as loud as you need to sugar.54300:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,580Do you ever look at Instagram accounts devoted to you being54400:32:19,580 --> 00:32:21,080a heartthrob when you're feeling down?54500:32:22,580 --> 00:32:23,480Yes, I do.54600:32:25,380 --> 00:32:26,880Is Pedro Pascal death?54700:32:27,180 --> 00:32:28,180He certainly is.54800:32:29,180 --> 00:32:30,880Oscar would say that I was.54900:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,780Oscar calls you his sweet girlfriend.55000:32:33,380 --> 00:32:34,780Do you have a nickname for him as well?55100:32:35,580 --> 00:32:36,780Yeah, but I can't say it.55200:32:36,880 --> 00:32:38,180I can bring you in warm.55300:32:38,180 --> 00:32:40,580I can bring you in cold.55400:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,180I'm just going to sit here and say I love you and say hi and55500:32:45,180 --> 00:32:47,480slay and yas.55600:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,680Can I go on a quick small tangent before we continue on55700:32:49,680 --> 00:32:50,180with the review?55800:32:50,580 --> 00:32:53,680I really hate when people on the red carpet ask him very55900:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,480inappropriate questions just because he is zaddy.56000:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,480That doesn't mean you can ask him like have you seen the56100:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,880clip like on tick tock on tick tock or Instagram where it's56200:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,580this interviewer showing Pedro Pascal on the red carpet quotes56300:33:07,580 --> 00:33:11,080from people who are like they're saying stuff like I want56400:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,980Pedro Pascal to rail me from behind or crazy shit like that.56500:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,380And he's like he doesn't know how to respond because he's56600:33:16,380 --> 00:33:17,580a fucking awesome, dude.56700:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,380He's not going to be like he's not going to get in an outrage56800:33:19,380 --> 00:33:22,680and throw his arms up and be like you disgusting pig, but56900:33:22,680 --> 00:33:25,880now he like he like just takes it good for him for having57000:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680the fortitude to be able to do that, but it's ridiculous.57100:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,180It's still it really sucks because we need to protect this57200:33:32,180 --> 00:33:33,280man at all costs.57300:33:33,680 --> 00:33:34,880He's a fucking Jim.57400:33:34,880 --> 00:33:39,580Yeah, protect Pedro Pascal at all costs people at all costs.57500:33:39,580 --> 00:33:40,080That's right.57600:33:40,080 --> 00:33:43,980No, I and so for me it was just like, I don't know, man.57700:33:43,980 --> 00:33:46,580I have a particular thing that really stuck out to you for57800:33:46,580 --> 00:33:50,580that just kind of didn't do it for you in the series.57900:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,780I'm curious because I don't have anything that I can really58000:33:53,780 --> 00:33:56,180think honestly, it was just like maybe the pacing like I58100:33:56,180 --> 00:33:59,580feel like they try to do so much in the first like four or58200:33:59,580 --> 00:34:05,280five episodes and the last like four really kind of just like58300:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,780the pace changed so much that it was just kind of like weird58400:34:09,780 --> 00:34:12,480and and and I'll be honest like I just it was almost like58500:34:12,480 --> 00:34:15,880it took a complete u-turn and and I would say that that58600:34:15,880 --> 00:34:20,480was right about right like right after what's her name.58700:34:21,180 --> 00:34:25,980Is it it's not Valerie is it the the the leader in Kansas58800:34:25,980 --> 00:34:28,580City of the Kathleen?58900:34:28,680 --> 00:34:28,980Yeah.59000:34:28,980 --> 00:34:31,480Pretty much after that episode.59100:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,380Listen, you don't have to you don't have to be delicate.59200:34:35,780 --> 00:34:36,880We're here to discuss this.59300:34:36,880 --> 00:34:37,380Yes.59400:34:37,380 --> 00:34:37,780Okay.59500:34:37,780 --> 00:34:40,080I see what you're saying and I there were some moments59600:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,580that that that absolutely crushed me.59700:34:43,680 --> 00:34:44,980Absolutely crushed me.59800:34:45,080 --> 00:34:45,380Huh?59900:34:45,380 --> 00:34:49,980Most notably obviously the the Frank Frank and Bill the60000:34:49,980 --> 00:34:55,380entire episode 3 as in its entirety is one giant kick in60100:34:55,380 --> 00:34:56,080the nuts.60200:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,680It's just I it is beautiful and sad.60300:34:59,880 --> 00:35:01,680It's the best episode of the series, right?60400:35:01,680 --> 00:35:05,580But it is also just like a fucking that episode alone that60500:35:05,580 --> 00:35:08,680episode alone start to finish was one of the most beautiful60600:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,780things I've ever watched.60700:35:09,780 --> 00:35:10,180Mm-hmm.60800:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,980But and and that's one of the problems with it.60900:35:12,980 --> 00:35:17,080It was like that one episode was so good that it just kind61000:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,380of overshadows the rest of the series as well.61100:35:21,580 --> 00:35:21,680Sure.61200:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,980And then you have you know, and again like the entire61300:35:24,980 --> 00:35:27,380episode they handled that relationship.61400:35:27,580 --> 00:35:29,280They handled those two together.61500:35:29,280 --> 00:35:32,480They handled their strife their pain their arguments their61600:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,580love so well and even their death.61700:35:35,980 --> 00:35:36,380Mm-hmm.61800:35:36,580 --> 00:35:42,380Yeah, they handle it so respectfully and well and like61900:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,980I that's that was the most beautiful and then and then62000:35:44,980 --> 00:35:47,080the other I would say another episode is I want to say62100:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,380was episode five endurance.62200:35:50,380 --> 00:35:54,480It's the same one where where we see we meet Henry and62300:35:54,480 --> 00:35:55,180his little brother.62400:35:55,180 --> 00:35:56,180Yes, of course brother.62500:35:56,180 --> 00:35:58,780We also see the we see our very first bloater as well,62600:35:58,780 --> 00:36:01,580which is that yeah, I am clicker the ending of that one.62700:36:01,880 --> 00:36:02,480Oh, yes.62800:36:02,580 --> 00:36:05,680Yeah, was just fucking brutal man.62900:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,380And again, like these I got really emotional at the end63000:36:09,380 --> 00:36:12,680of eight whenever Joel says I got you baby at the end63100:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,480where he we finally recovers and saves her from David63200:36:15,780 --> 00:36:17,780the weirdo fucking whatever.63300:36:17,780 --> 00:36:18,680What would you call it?63400:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,280Like a Christian is what even Christian it was well,63500:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,480I mean what it was religious in nature, but it was mostly63600:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,080a cult that where they are cannibals, but that that63700:36:27,080 --> 00:36:29,780scene really really really got me and also the scene63800:36:29,780 --> 00:36:32,180where we get to meet Riley we get to meet Ellie's,63900:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,480you know friend that she you know, she's in love with64000:36:35,980 --> 00:36:39,080and eventually has to kill has to kill.64100:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,780Yeah, so we're getting a little out of our self there.64200:36:41,980 --> 00:36:42,280I'm sorry.64300:36:42,280 --> 00:36:42,480Go ahead.64400:36:42,480 --> 00:36:42,980What were you gonna say?64500:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,080I was just gonna say but that that also leads into it64600:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,780to where okay, so I don't know again, you'll have to64700:36:49,780 --> 00:36:52,280tell me this if it's from the game or not, but64800:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,480mind you I have not played the game since 2013.64900:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,480So but you don't know the basics like sure like Joel's65000:36:58,980 --> 00:37:02,780character in this game or in this in this in this show65100:37:02,780 --> 00:37:05,780and I'm going to say this Joel as a character is not a65200:37:05,780 --> 00:37:06,480good guy.65300:37:06,780 --> 00:37:10,180No, and he is a he is a hardened jerk.65400:37:10,680 --> 00:37:13,580He is he is a definitively a horrible dude.65500:37:13,880 --> 00:37:19,180Yeah, and we see that and I think that's that might be65600:37:19,180 --> 00:37:22,580one of the lessons that that this like show is I mean65700:37:22,580 --> 00:37:25,280maybe trying to portray or put across the fact that65800:37:25,880 --> 00:37:30,680despite how much you love somebody and despite how good65900:37:30,980 --> 00:37:33,180they think they are when they're trying to take care66000:37:33,180 --> 00:37:35,580of somebody it does not mean that they will do the right66100:37:35,580 --> 00:37:35,880thing.66200:37:36,080 --> 00:37:36,480Right.66300:37:36,980 --> 00:37:39,880We see that in that series and exactly and that's what's66400:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,580fucked up about all of this.66500:37:41,580 --> 00:37:45,080Yeah, it's kind of a an idea of what are you willing to66600:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,080do to protect those that you love right and sometimes66700:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,880as you know, we've all been lied to by our parents at66800:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,180some point in our lives whether it's for our own good66900:37:54,180 --> 00:37:57,880or for theirs, but you know Joel has to make the decision67000:37:57,980 --> 00:38:02,780and you know save humanity or save Ellie right.67100:38:03,380 --> 00:38:04,380Her name was Riley.67200:38:05,580 --> 00:38:09,280She was the first to die and then it was Tess and then67300:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,980Sam that's not on you know, look sometimes things don't67400:38:11,980 --> 00:38:16,380work out the way we hope you can feel like like you've67500:38:16,380 --> 00:38:20,280come to an end and you don't know what to do next.67600:38:22,780 --> 00:38:27,780But if you just keep going you find something new to67700:38:27,780 --> 00:38:30,580fight for and maybe that's not what you're going to me.67800:38:33,780 --> 00:38:36,180Swear to me that everything you said about the fireflies67900:38:36,180 --> 00:38:36,680is true.68000:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,580I swear.68100:38:58,480 --> 00:38:58,980Okay.68200:39:00,280 --> 00:39:02,180All of this we've discussed before even talking about68300:39:02,180 --> 00:39:02,880the synopsis.68400:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,880So how about we get into that?68500:39:03,880 --> 00:39:04,980Let's go ahead and get the synopsis.68600:39:04,980 --> 00:39:06,180Let's get into this a little bit here.68700:39:06,180 --> 00:39:08,280Go ahead and tell the people, you know what the series68800:39:08,280 --> 00:39:08,780is about.68900:39:08,980 --> 00:39:09,280Okay.69000:39:09,280 --> 00:39:12,880So in 2003 which obviously was 20 years ago.69100:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,180So hey look topical topical a parasitic fungal infection69200:39:17,180 --> 00:39:19,980ravages the planet turning humans into mutated cordyceps69300:39:19,980 --> 00:39:23,380known as the infected 20 years later hardened survivor.69400:39:23,380 --> 00:39:26,680Joel played by Pedro Pascal is hired to smuggle 14 year69500:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,680old Ellie played by Bella Ramsey to the rebel fireflies69600:39:30,880 --> 00:39:33,480the last of a series premiered on January 15th, 2023.69700:39:33,580 --> 00:39:35,280It received a claim from critics who praised the69800:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,380performance writing production design and score several69900:39:38,380 --> 00:39:41,480called it the best adaptation of a video game across70000:39:41,480 --> 00:39:42,980linear channels and HBO Max.70100:39:42,980 --> 00:39:45,880The series premier was watched by 4.7 million viewers70200:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,080on the first day.70300:39:47,580 --> 00:39:51,680The second biggest HBO are for HBO since 2010 and almost70400:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,68040 million within two months by March.70500:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,480The first six episodes average over 30 million viewers70600:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,880in January 23.70700:39:57,880 --> 00:39:59,880The series was renewed for a second season.70800:39:59,880 --> 00:40:05,980Now the one thing that I wanted to say about the initial70900:40:05,980 --> 00:40:09,580scene in this and it goes kind of hand-in-hand with the71000:40:09,580 --> 00:40:12,880synopsis is this is this is the reason that this show71100:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,980kind of like at the beginning really hit me and was like71200:40:16,980 --> 00:40:17,680I was like, oh shit.71300:40:17,680 --> 00:40:21,280I'm going to watch this and love it was because when71400:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,180they're talking about cordyceps and the parasitic71500:40:24,180 --> 00:40:27,980funguses that thrive in nature and take over about the71600:40:27,980 --> 00:40:29,480flashback of the being the first episode.71700:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,880Yeah, the television show with the two scientists and71800:40:31,880 --> 00:40:33,080they're talking about the 60s.71900:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,580I think yeah, we're talking about the fungus and what72000:40:35,580 --> 00:40:37,180it does it takes over the and it takes, you know,72100:40:37,180 --> 00:40:41,080eats the flesh of the ant and I've been I'm not trying72200:40:41,080 --> 00:40:43,080to say like I've been saying anything and I'm definitely72300:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,880not like a like a prepper or like, you know, you're72400:40:45,880 --> 00:40:46,380no bill.72500:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,680I'm no bill.72600:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,480But that's one thing that I've thought about for a72700:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,580long time was that was ever since I found out that72800:40:51,580 --> 00:40:54,180there is a fungus that does this and I know that somewhere72900:40:54,180 --> 00:40:55,980somewhere on this planet.73000:40:55,980 --> 00:40:57,880There is some scientists who's probably fucking around73100:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,080with something that he shouldn't be messing with and73200:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,180the moment that they go in there with a needle that73300:41:02,180 --> 00:41:05,180they cannot see or some kind of excision and make some73400:41:05,180 --> 00:41:09,080kind of change in one of these things and break that73500:41:09,180 --> 00:41:13,280boundary that stops this from leaping to humans like73600:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,080that's I were fun and then guy lives in everything73700:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,880lives in grass.73800:41:16,880 --> 00:41:17,680It lives in trees.73900:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,480It lives everywhere lives in our air.74000:41:19,580 --> 00:41:21,180Obviously, that's how this transfers.74100:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,780That's how the cordyceps infect.74200:41:22,780 --> 00:41:25,180Everyone is through either the yeast, which we'll talk74300:41:25,180 --> 00:41:25,780about later.74400:41:25,780 --> 00:41:28,780A lot of the the food that people are eating is the74500:41:28,780 --> 00:41:30,080reason why they became infected.74600:41:30,180 --> 00:41:32,480But also a lot of it travels through air as well.74700:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,980Yeah, but it made so much sense this discussion about74800:41:34,980 --> 00:41:39,080what happens if the world warms up and things have to74900:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,080adapt like we're not the only creatures that have to75000:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,080adapt to a warmer climate, right?75100:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,780This and this is so it's like it's so prevalent and75200:41:47,780 --> 00:41:50,080it's so like topical.75300:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,680It's it's it's scary.75400:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,280Yeah, it's terrifying that opening scene with the two75500:41:55,280 --> 00:41:57,780gentlemen talking in the 60s that flashback is not part75600:41:57,780 --> 00:41:59,080of the the the video game.75700:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,580They include that just for the TV series, which a lot75800:42:01,580 --> 00:42:04,080of people were praising it for that and also that that75900:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,580pilot in general is just a really good jumping on point76000:42:06,580 --> 00:42:09,180for the series in terms of you know, oh my God meeting76100:42:09,180 --> 00:42:13,080Joel meeting Tommy meeting Sarah guy almost forgot her76200:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,080name meeting all these characters and obviously we76300:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,980lose Sarah in that first episode, which is a big big76400:42:17,980 --> 00:42:21,580deal in the video game as well that whole scene where76500:42:21,580 --> 00:42:23,780they're in the truck and they're driving through the76600:42:23,780 --> 00:42:26,380city and trying to find a way out that is ripped76700:42:26,380 --> 00:42:28,880straight from the video game everything down to Sarah's76800:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,980death where where he got where the you know, the76900:42:30,980 --> 00:42:34,180Fedra officer goes to shoot Joel and ends up shooting77000:42:34,180 --> 00:42:36,580Sarah on accident that is straight out of the video77100:42:36,580 --> 00:42:36,880game.77200:42:37,280 --> 00:42:39,580I have a question though, and I wanted to ask us like77300:42:39,980 --> 00:42:42,180episode one his watch breaks.77400:42:42,280 --> 00:42:45,680Yes, but we see like I feel like we see flashes of his77500:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,480watch that the show and it's not broken.77600:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,580Well, that's remember that's what Sarah was doing in77700:42:49,580 --> 00:42:49,980that episode.77800:42:49,980 --> 00:42:50,980She went to go get it fixed.77900:42:51,480 --> 00:42:52,080She got it fixed.78000:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,980It was it was I thought it was but it got broken after78100:42:55,980 --> 00:42:59,080like when he got when like the whole chase scene it78200:42:59,080 --> 00:43:00,880was broken at the end of the first episode.78300:43:00,880 --> 00:43:01,780Maybe he got it fixed again.78400:43:01,780 --> 00:43:02,180I don't know.78500:43:02,180 --> 00:43:03,680I know that was like the whole thing was remember78600:43:03,680 --> 00:43:06,480because the the the watch fixer or whatever his78700:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,180name is he was like she just take it stole the money.78800:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,280Yeah, she stole the money and went it for his birthday.78900:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080But anyways, I just like something I got to look79000:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,180back in and see again because something to me that79100:43:16,180 --> 00:43:16,880was sorry.79200:43:16,880 --> 00:43:18,380I was just say something I found really interesting79300:43:18,380 --> 00:43:22,080though was in that scene where Tommy is driving both79400:43:22,180 --> 00:43:26,080Sarah and Joel there's they actually created a car79500:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,880or truck where the stunt driver was actually on top79600:43:28,880 --> 00:43:29,680of the truck.79700:43:29,780 --> 00:43:30,880Yes, I saw that.79800:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,080Yeah, so that was really cool.79900:43:32,080 --> 00:43:33,780So they can just act normally then I have to worry80000:43:33,780 --> 00:43:37,280about like hurting anyone or you know driving in80100:43:37,280 --> 00:43:37,680general.80200:43:37,680 --> 00:43:38,280They're crashing.80300:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,380Yeah, they really just had to act the entire time80400:43:40,380 --> 00:43:42,080while they had somebody on top actually doing it,80500:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,680which is incredible.80600:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,280So the show runners you honestly probably couldn't80700:43:45,280 --> 00:43:47,680have picked a better to to run the show initially got80800:43:47,680 --> 00:43:50,780crazy Craig Mazin and Neil Druckmann Mazin is was a80900:43:50,780 --> 00:43:52,980showrunner on HBO's hit miniseries Chernobyl.81000:43:53,180 --> 00:43:54,880I know as soon as that announcement came through81100:43:54,880 --> 00:43:56,880the wire Aaron everybody was excited because if81200:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,880you've seen Chernobyl it is very last of us vibes81300:43:59,880 --> 00:44:02,680right like a lot of the nuclear waste that got into81400:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,480that town after Chernobyl like I guess Chernobyl81500:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,880was the town but all that to be said like it all81600:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,480feels that opening scene of the last of us feels81700:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,280like that is the entire series of Chernobyl.81800:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,280It's all flashbacks and like it's intense.81900:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,580Yeah, it's really it's really great weirdly enough82000:44:18,580 --> 00:44:19,580Mazin's freshman.82100:44:19,680 --> 00:44:20,880Okay, this is sorry everybody.82200:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,580We're gonna get a little political.82300:44:21,580 --> 00:44:24,080I just thought this is really funny Mazin's freshman82400:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,680year roommate was at Princeton was Ted Cruz now82500:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,380the junior US Senator from Texas.82600:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,780He openly despises Cruz on a personal level and82700:44:30,780 --> 00:44:32,780frequently disparages him on Twitter.82800:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,480I just thought that was hilarious that they were82900:44:34,580 --> 00:44:37,480they were roommates and Ted Cruz is a piece of83000:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,580shit moving on both Mazin and Druckmann are creators83100:44:40,580 --> 00:44:42,580writers and executive producers of the television83200:44:42,580 --> 00:44:45,380series Druckmann has been creative director designer83300:44:45,380 --> 00:44:47,980programmer and co-president along with Evan Wells of83400:44:47,980 --> 00:44:49,380Naughty Dog since 2020.83500:44:49,780 --> 00:44:52,180He is best known for his work on the game franchise's83600:44:52,180 --> 00:44:54,680Uncharted and of course the last of us having co-created83700:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,180the ladder with Bruce Stratley.83800:44:56,680 --> 00:45:01,180So why not just get the creator co-creator of the83900:45:01,180 --> 00:45:03,980series the video game and bring him on to basically84000:45:03,980 --> 00:45:06,080do everything on the TV series and I think the84100:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,680adaptation is so perfect for me Aaron.84200:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,680I think that the way they didn't just verbatim take84300:45:12,680 --> 00:45:13,680what was in the video game.84400:45:13,680 --> 00:45:15,080Okay, but they done it.84500:45:15,080 --> 00:45:15,780They kind of did though.84600:45:15,780 --> 00:45:17,180That's the that's the crazy part is that there are84700:45:17,180 --> 00:45:20,080certain parts of this series that is ripped directly84800:45:20,380 --> 00:45:22,180like dialogue and everything from the video game84900:45:22,180 --> 00:45:23,880and put into live action.85000:45:24,280 --> 00:45:26,480But then there's other weird aspects not weird85100:45:26,780 --> 00:45:30,280interesting aspects of the of the series that make85200:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,680it its own thing.85300:45:31,980 --> 00:45:33,380You know, again as someone who's played the first85400:45:33,380 --> 00:45:33,580game.85500:45:33,580 --> 00:45:34,980I again, I haven't played the second one.85600:45:34,980 --> 00:45:36,080I haven't played in the DLC.85700:45:36,280 --> 00:45:37,080So don't come at me.85800:45:37,080 --> 00:45:38,380Everybody's listening right now.85900:45:38,580 --> 00:45:40,880I will I want to at some point and I know maybe86000:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,980maybe I shouldn't honestly Aaron.86100:45:41,980 --> 00:45:43,780I want maybe I should just like go in with everybody86200:45:43,780 --> 00:45:46,080else and just not play a video game and then be86300:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,780surprised on what happens later on in the you know,86400:45:48,780 --> 00:45:50,180and maybe we'll switch roles.86500:45:50,180 --> 00:45:52,480I'll play it now and then I'll play the DLC and86600:45:52,480 --> 00:45:53,880everything and we'll go forward.86700:45:54,080 --> 00:45:54,880There you go.86800:45:54,880 --> 00:45:56,480That way you'll be the subject matter expert on86900:45:56,480 --> 00:45:56,780this.87000:45:56,780 --> 00:45:59,280We're gonna have one at least on the show, but it87100:45:59,280 --> 00:46:00,580just it does such a great job.87200:46:00,580 --> 00:46:03,380I think in terms of balancing what what was great87300:46:03,380 --> 00:46:06,280about the video game and and and trying of transplanting87400:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,880it to the series and then everything that wasn't87500:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,080part or anything that they wanted to change from87600:46:11,080 --> 00:46:11,880the video games.87700:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,280They did a great job of kind of pivoting in the87800:46:14,280 --> 00:46:14,680series.87900:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,980I feel like they should be standard.88000:46:15,980 --> 00:46:18,080You know, you pull if somebody somebody was done88100:46:18,080 --> 00:46:21,480so well, you bring on the team and fucking made it88200:46:21,480 --> 00:46:22,980right exactly.88300:46:22,980 --> 00:46:23,680Yeah, it's not broke.88400:46:23,680 --> 00:46:25,080Don't fix it, you know, yeah.88500:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,680So the the score was composed by Gustavo Santa88600:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,980Olala and David Fleming who also composed the video88700:46:32,980 --> 00:46:34,980games soundtrack as well.88800:46:35,680 --> 00:46:36,780Chris I'm going to go to your kid.88900:46:36,880 --> 00:46:37,880Why was going to ask you really quick?89000:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,880What are your thoughts on the soundtrack?89100:46:38,880 --> 00:46:39,580What do you like?89200:46:39,580 --> 00:46:43,780Kind of like banjo like I rushed through this thing89300:46:43,780 --> 00:46:46,580so fast that I have thoughts that are going to pop89400:46:46,580 --> 00:46:48,580back into my head once you like trigger them.89500:46:49,080 --> 00:46:49,580Okay.89600:46:49,680 --> 00:46:49,880Okay.89700:46:49,880 --> 00:46:53,680So as soon as I as soon as the show came on and I89800:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,580got probably one and a half maybe even just one89900:46:56,580 --> 00:46:58,580episode in one and a half to two episodes.90000:46:58,580 --> 00:47:00,580I was like I need this this on vinyl.90100:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,780Yeah, the the soundtrack for this show is phenomenal.90200:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,680Yeah, it's great and it's almost exactly like the90300:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,380soundtrack from the video game again, like they90400:47:09,380 --> 00:47:10,880took something that worked really well in the video90500:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,280game and just supplanted it into the series and it90600:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,180works like there's no reason to fix it because90700:47:15,180 --> 00:47:16,080it's already really good.90800:47:16,380 --> 00:47:16,780Yeah.90900:47:16,880 --> 00:47:18,580So let's go to the cast real quick.91000:47:18,580 --> 00:47:20,380I'm just going to run through these real quick.91100:47:20,580 --> 00:47:23,980Pedro Pascal, Joel Miller, Bella Ramsey as Ellie91200:47:23,980 --> 00:47:27,480Williams, Merle Dandridge as Marlene, Anna Torv as91300:47:27,480 --> 00:47:31,180Tess Servopoulos, Nico Parker as Sarah Miller,91400:47:31,180 --> 00:47:35,080Gabriel Luna as Tommy Miller, Nick Offerman as91500:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,880Bill, love that guy, Murray Bartlett as Frank,91600:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,180loved him to Lamar Johnson as Henry Burrell, Kavon91700:47:41,180 --> 00:47:44,580Montreal Woodard as Sam, Melanie Linsky as Kathleen91800:47:44,580 --> 00:47:45,180Koglut.91900:47:45,280 --> 00:47:50,180She was just like she's on the level of like the92000:47:50,180 --> 00:47:52,280truncheable and what is that?92100:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,880Madeline.92200:47:54,080 --> 00:47:54,580No, not Madeline.92300:47:54,580 --> 00:47:55,780I'm sorry, Matilda.92400:47:55,780 --> 00:47:56,180There it is.92500:47:56,180 --> 00:47:56,780Yeah, I don't know.92600:47:56,780 --> 00:47:57,380I'm gonna do that.92700:47:57,380 --> 00:48:00,080She just like Umbridge in Order of the Phoenix.92800:48:00,080 --> 00:48:03,680Like she's just that type of you hate her so much,92900:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,080right?93000:48:04,080 --> 00:48:08,180Yeah, but she's like she reminds me of wallowitz93100:48:08,180 --> 00:48:11,080his wife in the Big Bang Theory because she's got93200:48:11,080 --> 00:48:12,480like that sweet voice.93300:48:12,480 --> 00:48:14,280Yes, that's the worst, you know, whenever they come93400:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,880in real soft and they're just like completely93500:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,580evil deranged and evil.93600:48:18,580 --> 00:48:18,880Yeah.93700:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,280Yeah.93800:48:19,980 --> 00:48:22,880And then you got Jeffrey Pierce as Perry, Scott93900:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,080Shepherd as David, Troy Baker as James and Ashley94000:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080Johnson as Anna Ellie's mother.94100:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,080There are many voice actors from the game who94200:48:30,080 --> 00:48:32,080return to play different characters in the show.94300:48:32,080 --> 00:48:35,080Troy Baker who voiced Joel in the game is James,94400:48:35,380 --> 00:48:37,680one of the disciples and implied second in command94500:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,480of cannibalistic group led by David as Chris was94600:48:40,480 --> 00:48:41,580talking about in episode 8.94700:48:41,880 --> 00:48:43,980Ashley Johnson who voiced Ellie in the game is94800:48:43,980 --> 00:48:46,980actually Ellie's mom in episode 9, but I'm pretty94900:48:46,980 --> 00:48:48,480sure she also played.95000:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,980I want to say she played like a like a teen mother95100:48:51,980 --> 00:48:53,180in some movie.95200:48:53,180 --> 00:48:55,780Oh, you're thinking of Juno, which okay, so here's95300:48:55,780 --> 00:48:56,380no, not Juno.95400:48:56,380 --> 00:48:56,780No, no, no.95500:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,180Okay, is she is Ashley Johnson not the girl from95600:49:00,180 --> 00:49:01,880like Divergent?95700:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,480So she played no, I'm thinking sorry.95800:49:04,480 --> 00:49:05,580That's Shailene Woodley.95900:49:05,580 --> 00:49:07,380So no, it's completely wrong person.96000:49:07,380 --> 00:49:11,780So yeah, Ashley Johnson voiced Ellie in the game.96100:49:11,780 --> 00:49:14,180And then you got Jeffrey Pierce who voiced Tommy96200:49:14,180 --> 00:49:17,480in the game and that was Kathleen's anti-federa96300:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,980second in command Perry who is just like that dude.96400:49:21,980 --> 00:49:23,880I don't know if he was in love with her or what.96500:49:23,880 --> 00:49:24,780I don't know what the deal was.96600:49:24,780 --> 00:49:25,080Yeah.96700:49:25,080 --> 00:49:25,480Yeah.96800:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,180He's like we will follow you everywhere, you know,96900:49:28,180 --> 00:49:31,480got a cool beard and some some black gloves.97000:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,080The only person to reprise both roles in the game97100:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,880and on the show is Merle Dandridge as Marlene.97200:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,180Is it Merle or like something else?97300:49:41,180 --> 00:49:42,380Merle Marley.97400:49:42,380 --> 00:49:43,080I don't know.97500:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,880We don't know Merle sounds so masculine and you97600:49:45,880 --> 00:49:46,380don't know.97700:49:46,380 --> 00:49:47,380I definitely don't know.97800:49:47,380 --> 00:49:49,580You know, I can't pronounce it.97900:49:49,580 --> 00:49:50,880Oh, yeah.98000:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,880No, it's I think everybody across the board is a great98100:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,180job Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey's chemistry is off98200:49:56,180 --> 00:49:57,080the charts in this series.98300:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,480What their relationship is at the beginning of the series98400:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,380and what it eventually becomes at the end is something98500:50:03,380 --> 00:50:06,880that I knew was coming and yet I still fell for like is98600:50:06,880 --> 00:50:08,780this what happens in the game is a relationship.98700:50:08,780 --> 00:50:09,780What kind of thing?98800:50:09,780 --> 00:50:11,780Yes, they absolutely cannot stand each other in the98900:50:11,780 --> 00:50:13,980beginning of the series or in the video game and then99000:50:13,980 --> 00:50:16,380throughout the video game as things happen to them and99100:50:16,380 --> 00:50:18,580they have to trust each other and they proved to each99200:50:18,580 --> 00:50:19,780other that they're there for each other.99300:50:19,780 --> 00:50:22,580They slowly start to, you know, earn each other's affection99400:50:22,580 --> 00:50:24,280and it's beautiful.99500:50:24,280 --> 00:50:28,980It's like it's such like like as as as the third party99600:50:28,980 --> 00:50:32,680in the relationship as the outside view on this.99700:50:32,680 --> 00:50:37,680It's like it's it's there's such a like dichotomy.99800:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,980I want to say it's like dichotomy inside of me where99900:50:39,980 --> 00:50:43,580it's like part of me loves the fact that that he's100000:50:43,580 --> 00:50:46,180like healed from Sarah and some wounds he's had in100100:50:46,180 --> 00:50:46,980the past.100200:50:46,980 --> 00:50:52,380But at the same time, I know that he is crazy as fuck100300:50:52,380 --> 00:50:55,280like because he's doing some he's like he's you know,100400:50:55,280 --> 00:50:59,180he's doing he's in that end-all be-all protector of her.100500:50:59,180 --> 00:51:02,580Well, the thing is, yes, he is a product of what the100600:51:02,580 --> 00:51:03,480world has become.100700:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,480But think about Ellie.100800:51:05,480 --> 00:51:07,980She was born into this world and we see very early on100900:51:07,980 --> 00:51:11,080in the series that she's okay doing some crazy shit101000:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,280because that's all she's ever known.101100:51:12,280 --> 00:51:14,580Innocence is no longer a thing for these young young101200:51:14,580 --> 00:51:14,980people.101300:51:14,980 --> 00:51:17,680True kids are these kids are born into violence and101400:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,980mayhem and clickers and Fedra and all this shit.101500:51:20,980 --> 00:51:22,580So Ellie we see it at one point.101600:51:22,580 --> 00:51:24,380I think it's at the beginning of episode 3 where she101700:51:24,380 --> 00:51:26,680just goes downstairs and she's like messing with the101800:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,280clicker like opening it up and like, you know, cuts it101900:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,380open to see what will happen.102000:51:31,380 --> 00:51:34,080Like she's she's got a little fuckery in her too.102100:51:34,080 --> 00:51:37,880And Joel is not helping that if nothing else Joel is102200:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,080showing her that that type of behavior is how you102300:51:40,080 --> 00:51:41,080survive in this world.102400:51:41,080 --> 00:51:44,180And I think again as someone who's not played part 2,102500:51:44,180 --> 00:51:46,880I think that is explored much heavily in the second102600:51:46,880 --> 00:51:47,180game.102700:51:47,180 --> 00:51:49,480I think the second game very much leans into the idea102800:51:49,480 --> 00:51:51,580of how far is too far for Ellie, right?102900:51:51,780 --> 00:51:55,180Especially when someone again, no spoilers is not103000:51:55,180 --> 00:51:56,080around to help her.103100:51:56,180 --> 00:51:58,980So yeah, I want to and I want to talk about shooting103200:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,880during COVID-19 because again, this show was shot103300:52:01,880 --> 00:52:04,480during COVID-19 and a lot of shows and movies have103400:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,180not well, let's say they haven't gone super well outside103500:52:08,180 --> 00:52:10,580of like a Top Gun Maverick and Avatar the way of103600:52:10,580 --> 00:52:13,280water, you know, a lot of a lot of these movies and103700:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,580television series have we've seen the downfall of103800:52:16,580 --> 00:52:18,780trying to work in these, you know, during a pandemic.103900:52:18,780 --> 00:52:21,580So for decades HBO has set countless standards for104000:52:21,580 --> 00:52:22,680the rest of the TV world.104100:52:22,680 --> 00:52:24,680The Last of Us is reportedly one of the most expensive104200:52:24,680 --> 00:52:27,680series ever costing HBO about 10 million dollars per104300:52:27,680 --> 00:52:29,980episode while shooting most of the series in person104400:52:29,980 --> 00:52:30,680in Calgary.104500:52:30,680 --> 00:52:33,080They also utilize the same Industrial Light and Magic104600:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,880I L M virtual production that the Mandalorian used104700:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,980actors performed in immersive and massive 20 foot104800:52:39,980 --> 00:52:44,880high and to sub 270 degree semi-circular LED video104900:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,080wall and ceiling with a 75 foot diameter performance105000:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,580space where the practical set pieces were combined105100:52:50,580 --> 00:52:53,480with the digital extensions of the screen the clickers105200:52:53,580 --> 00:52:55,880and even the giraffe and episode 9 are all practical105300:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,180though, which I thought was really incredible.105400:52:57,280 --> 00:52:58,680It was a real giraffe wasn't it?105500:52:58,680 --> 00:52:59,580It was a real giraffe.105600:52:59,580 --> 00:52:59,880Yeah.105700:52:59,880 --> 00:53:02,480And I think for anyone who's interested, please go105800:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,180watch the making of of this series on HBO.105900:53:05,180 --> 00:53:07,680It's currently they they basically premiered it right106000:53:07,680 --> 00:53:10,680after episode 9 premiered and it is a really really106100:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,980cool in-depth look at how they made this series look106200:53:13,080 --> 00:53:14,080as great as it looks.106300:53:14,580 --> 00:53:17,380Industrial Light and Magic is the same like that's106400:53:17,380 --> 00:53:18,880that's like a studio, isn't it?106500:53:19,180 --> 00:53:21,880So it is a studio but it's also it creates technology106600:53:21,880 --> 00:53:22,580for film now.106700:53:22,580 --> 00:53:24,480So it's not yeah, you know, of course it was created106800:53:24,480 --> 00:53:28,180by George Lucas and was Lucas Lucas art Lucas Films106900:53:28,180 --> 00:53:28,580or whatever.107000:53:29,080 --> 00:53:31,380Yeah, a lot of it was sold to Disney of course, but107100:53:31,480 --> 00:53:33,680for the most part it's like the MacGyver's of the107200:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,380of Hollywood now they are they're often changing how107300:53:36,380 --> 00:53:40,080we film and how we create, you know film and television107400:53:40,080 --> 00:53:41,780they are just pioneers in that sense.107500:53:41,780 --> 00:53:44,780So Aaron I'd love to have you talk about kind of the107600:53:44,780 --> 00:53:47,280accolades of the video game and what the series had107700:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,380to eventually try to shoot for in terms of a claim.107800:53:50,680 --> 00:53:54,880So the Last of Us received a universal acclaim meaning107900:53:55,580 --> 00:53:58,480everyone in the universe acclaimed it every everyone108000:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,680loved even Aaron who didn't play it upon its initial108100:54:02,680 --> 00:54:07,080release exclusively on the PlayStation 3 in 2013.108200:54:07,580 --> 00:54:08,780Hey, we were still in the army together.108300:54:08,780 --> 00:54:10,380We were still hanging out in Savannah, Georgia108400:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,080within seven days of its release Last of Us sold over108500:54:14,080 --> 00:54:17,5801.3 million units becoming the biggest video game108600:54:17,580 --> 00:54:20,480launch of 2013 at the time three weeks after its108700:54:20,480 --> 00:54:24,180release the game sold over 3.4 million units and was108800:54:24,180 --> 00:54:26,280deemed the biggest launch of an original game since108900:54:26,280 --> 00:54:30,5802011's LA Noire, which was boring as hell and the109000:54:30,580 --> 00:54:33,280fastest selling PlayStation 3 game of 2013 at the109100:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,680time, which I think we already said the Last of Us109200:54:35,680 --> 00:54:37,980won over 200 game of the year awards.109300:54:38,880 --> 00:54:39,680Holy shit.109400:54:39,980 --> 00:54:42,680Why are there 200 like more than 200 game of the is109500:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,880that every single award?109600:54:43,880 --> 00:54:44,580I think it's every day.109700:54:44,580 --> 00:54:45,680I think it's every single game award.109800:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,280Yeah, just Last of Us Last of Us just cut the show.109900:54:48,280 --> 00:54:48,780Everything goes.110000:54:48,780 --> 00:54:51,280It was like it's like it was like everything ever110100:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,380wrote once at the Oscars this year is like pretty110200:54:53,380 --> 00:54:54,180much everything.110300:54:54,180 --> 00:54:54,680It doesn't matter.110400:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,580We all know it's great.110500:54:55,880 --> 00:55:00,580Yeah, over 200 Jesus making one of the most acclaimed110600:55:00,580 --> 00:55:03,980and successful games of all time time time its110700:55:03,980 --> 00:55:04,480sequel.110800:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,980The Last of Us part two would go on to beat that110900:55:06,980 --> 00:55:13,180record. Exactly would go on to beat that record in 2020.111000:55:14,880 --> 00:55:15,380Wow.111100:55:15,480 --> 00:55:18,880I didn't even gave it a 10 out of 10 score called111200:55:18,880 --> 00:55:22,880it a masterpiece that evolves the gameplay cinematic111300:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,080storytelling and rich world design of the original in111400:55:26,080 --> 00:55:27,780nearly every way.111500:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,480I'm sorry for that Kermit ask voice that Kermit or111600:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,180was that kind of sound like the frog from WB at the111700:55:34,180 --> 00:55:37,480time burger burger? No, that's a racist racist frog.111800:55:38,280 --> 00:55:39,380Hello, my baby.111900:55:41,880 --> 00:55:42,680I think it's racist.112000:55:42,680 --> 00:55:44,180Okay, that is racist.112100:55:44,180 --> 00:55:46,580How dare you bring up that goddamn frog.112200:55:47,780 --> 00:55:49,980So like I mean you could go to Wikipedia you go to112300:55:49,980 --> 00:55:51,680wherever you can go to the video games award.112400:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,780You can look all this stuff, but it's all of it.112500:55:55,080 --> 00:55:57,780It's all of it New York Game Awards Big Apple Award112600:55:57,780 --> 00:55:58,380for for me.112700:55:58,380 --> 00:55:59,180I'm just going to name a few.112800:55:59,180 --> 00:56:01,180Okay, so outstanding innovation and gaming at the112900:56:01,180 --> 00:56:04,180dice Awards February 7 2014 and there's like113000:56:04,180 --> 00:56:06,580eight more that say outstanding achievement and113100:56:06,580 --> 00:56:12,180sound game of the year writing performance innovation113200:56:12,180 --> 00:56:17,180and gaming narrative audio sound design here game of113300:56:17,180 --> 00:56:19,580the year best game.113400:56:20,180 --> 00:56:27,280It's sweat 2014 and 2020 best narrative audio mix game113500:56:27,280 --> 00:56:27,880of the year.113600:56:28,580 --> 00:56:30,580It's everything audio the year you guys get it.113700:56:30,580 --> 00:56:31,080I'm sorry.113800:56:31,180 --> 00:56:31,580You get it.113900:56:31,580 --> 00:56:32,180You get it.114000:56:32,380 --> 00:56:33,280It's it's incredible.114100:56:33,280 --> 00:56:34,380And like I said, Aaron, I'm excited.114200:56:34,380 --> 00:56:35,080Go go.114300:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,380No, so the everyone for everyone at home the transcript114400:56:38,380 --> 00:56:40,480I have all the awards for both the first and second114500:56:40,680 --> 00:56:43,280the second like I like we just said beat the first114600:56:43,280 --> 00:56:46,080game in terms of like and I think it's only because114700:56:46,180 --> 00:56:48,480there were more video game Awards in 2020 than there114800:56:48,480 --> 00:56:50,680were in 2013 or 2014.114900:56:50,980 --> 00:56:53,480Never that you know that award season came around.115000:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,580So yeah, it's it's incredible.115100:56:56,580 --> 00:56:58,380Like I said, the first one is probably one of my115200:56:58,380 --> 00:56:59,380favorite games of all time.115300:56:59,580 --> 00:57:01,780I haven't played it in years and I feel like I still115400:57:01,780 --> 00:57:04,580think about how immersive and how amazing the115500:57:04,580 --> 00:57:07,280gameplay is like not only are the cutscenes amazing115600:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,880and not only did it look amazing for 2013 but the115700:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,580storyline really draws you in it really honestly.115800:57:12,580 --> 00:57:14,880I think the era that we're in right now in terms of115900:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,580cinematic video gaming is because of the last of us116000:57:17,580 --> 00:57:20,380and because of uncharted like video games like that116100:57:20,380 --> 00:57:22,380are the reason that we're in the era that we're in116200:57:22,380 --> 00:57:22,780right now.116300:57:23,180 --> 00:57:25,580So I definitely like I said, I do want to play the116400:57:25,580 --> 00:57:26,580second one at some point.116500:57:26,580 --> 00:57:28,380I'm kind of I'm kind of divided now because I kind116600:57:28,380 --> 00:57:29,880of want to I don't know if I want to be surprised for116700:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,780the video game or if I want to be surprised for the116800:57:31,980 --> 00:57:32,580the series.116900:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,580So Aaron is there a particular episode you want to117000:57:34,580 --> 00:57:36,880talk about because I think again kind of in relation117100:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,380to a lot of our series reviews.117200:57:38,380 --> 00:57:39,880We don't really go through every single episode117300:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,980anymore, but outside of episode 3 which everyone117400:57:42,980 --> 00:57:43,680knows is amazing.117500:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,480That's of course the Bill and Frank episode.117600:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,080Is there another episode that really you know kind117700:57:47,080 --> 00:57:48,680of sticks out in your brain in terms of really you117800:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,580really loving I mean honestly like I think I want117900:57:51,580 --> 00:57:53,880to say that number 3 was obviously the standout.118000:57:53,880 --> 00:57:58,180I loved number one number one was just a very from118100:57:58,180 --> 00:58:02,580God that just the beginning wasn't slow.118200:58:02,580 --> 00:58:03,780I was kind of worried.118300:58:03,780 --> 00:58:07,380It would kind of like slowly creep in but it was118400:58:07,380 --> 00:58:09,080just it was phenomenal acting.118500:58:09,080 --> 00:58:10,680It was phenomenal effects.118600:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,980I remember the moment that I you see the plane like118700:58:14,980 --> 00:58:16,180kind of falling out of the sky.118800:58:16,180 --> 00:58:19,080You see it before the characters on screen, right?118900:58:19,080 --> 00:58:22,380And so like you're like you're like is nobody119000:58:22,380 --> 00:58:24,380seeing this plane coming out of the sky like look119100:58:24,380 --> 00:58:24,780hello.119200:58:24,780 --> 00:58:28,480Hello McFly, you know, and I'm just like and then119300:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,780she sees it and they start screaming.119400:58:29,780 --> 00:58:31,480They're driving and it's just like I'm just like119500:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,080Jesus like it literally had me and I'll say it119600:58:35,080 --> 00:58:36,580for the second episode as well.119700:58:36,980 --> 00:58:37,680Chris, you know me.119800:58:37,680 --> 00:58:38,880I'm not a horror movie.119900:58:38,880 --> 00:58:40,080Like I don't love horror.120000:58:40,280 --> 00:58:44,680Sure, but from any time I say like I like obviously120100:58:44,880 --> 00:58:46,980fungus thrives on moisture.120200:58:47,380 --> 00:58:48,580We see that I think what was it?120300:58:48,580 --> 00:58:49,580I think it was episode 5.120400:58:49,580 --> 00:58:51,380Also, we see the ground just like kind of like120500:58:51,380 --> 00:58:53,880breathing from the moisture dripping into it.120600:58:53,880 --> 00:58:58,280It's like we literally have weaponized fungus in120700:58:58,280 --> 00:59:00,380this and I'm just like wondering what the next120800:59:00,380 --> 00:59:01,580creature is going to look like.120900:59:01,580 --> 00:59:03,180What's the next thing going to look like?121000:59:03,380 --> 00:59:06,880And so like I really I would say that episode 2121100:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,880really cemented in the fact that wherever you're121200:59:09,880 --> 00:59:12,680going like there's something in that corner possibly121300:59:12,780 --> 00:59:15,180like yeah, and those clickers look amazing by the121400:59:15,180 --> 00:59:15,480way.121500:59:15,480 --> 00:59:16,980Oh, yeah, the first time seeing the clickers for121600:59:16,980 --> 00:59:17,680the first time.121700:59:17,880 --> 00:59:19,280I'm surprised they showed us an episode 2.121800:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,580I was I was thinking they weren't going to show121900:59:20,580 --> 00:59:23,080us until later down, you know into the series,122000:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,480but that whole scene with with Tess and with Ellie122100:59:25,480 --> 00:59:53,480and Joel is it's nail biting.122200:59:55,480 --> 01:00:22,880Oh and like the you know that scene with Tess122301:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,580when when she sacrifices herself.122401:00:26,180 --> 01:00:29,880Yeah, and also RIP RIP to the the actor who played122501:00:29,880 --> 01:00:30,180Tess.122601:00:30,180 --> 01:00:31,280She also passed away.122701:00:31,380 --> 01:00:33,380She passed away the same week that episode premiered122801:00:33,380 --> 01:00:35,980to there's a lot of that really yeah, I know that122901:00:35,980 --> 01:00:39,080she she passed away the week of that episode 2123001:00:39,080 --> 01:00:39,580coming out.123101:00:39,580 --> 01:00:41,580So kind of a weird parallel in terms of her123201:00:41,580 --> 01:00:43,380character dying the same week that she passes away123301:00:43,380 --> 01:00:47,180but and she also she had died from an undisclosed123401:00:47,180 --> 01:00:48,980form of cancer, which I think we'll talk about here123501:00:48,980 --> 01:00:50,780in just a bit during our fun facts, which is not123601:00:50,780 --> 01:00:51,480really a fun fact.123701:00:51,480 --> 01:00:52,980They were both from fringe.123801:00:53,280 --> 01:00:53,380Yeah.123901:00:53,380 --> 01:00:53,780Oh, yeah.124001:00:53,780 --> 01:00:54,180Yeah.124101:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,880Yep.124201:00:55,280 --> 01:00:56,580I loved her in fringe.124301:00:56,580 --> 01:00:57,380That's so wild.124401:00:57,380 --> 01:01:00,380I didn't I honestly had no idea that she she had124501:01:00,380 --> 01:01:00,980passed.124601:01:01,080 --> 01:01:01,480Yep.124701:01:01,580 --> 01:01:02,180Yeah, it's crazy.124801:01:02,180 --> 01:01:05,280I'll say though episode 5 and Durn Survive was124901:01:05,280 --> 01:01:07,180probably my second favorite episode of the series.125001:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,280I love the pilot as well, but just for the sake125101:01:09,280 --> 01:01:10,580of talking about another episode.125201:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,780Yeah, when everybody's kind of bum rushing our125301:01:12,780 --> 01:01:14,980leads in that cul-de-sac and we of course see the125401:01:14,980 --> 01:01:17,880bloat the the bloater for the first time and all125501:01:17,880 --> 01:01:20,280of those practical clickers and everything.125601:01:20,280 --> 01:01:21,180It's awesome.125701:01:21,180 --> 01:01:22,980And obviously we get to see Kathleen and Perry both125801:01:22,980 --> 01:01:23,880die, which is incredible.125901:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,180So yeah, I'd say that's probably my my either my126001:01:26,180 --> 01:01:27,880favorite or my second favorite episode of the series.126101:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,380So and let's go and get into fun facts here.126201:01:30,580 --> 01:01:33,480Some fun facts about the last of us in the games.126301:01:33,480 --> 01:01:36,280The this is one thing that I definitely knew that126401:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,780they had changed was because I remember seeing126501:01:38,980 --> 01:01:40,280why I think when I played like the first couple126601:01:40,280 --> 01:01:42,680minutes of the game, they talked about the fungus126701:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,480spreading through spores in the air the show.126801:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,480They they deliberately and and wanted to replace126901:01:49,480 --> 01:01:50,680them with tendrils.127001:01:51,080 --> 01:01:52,680Neil Druckmann explained that this was deliberate127101:01:52,680 --> 01:01:54,880decision he made early on during the show's development127201:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,780as he wanted to make the world more believable and127301:01:56,780 --> 01:01:58,080the fungus more frightening.127401:01:58,380 --> 01:02:01,380I'm going to be honest for me spores in the air is127501:02:01,380 --> 01:02:02,380way more frightening.127601:02:04,180 --> 01:02:05,680Yeah, little mouth tendrils.127701:02:05,680 --> 01:02:06,080Okay.127801:02:06,080 --> 01:02:09,680So Pedro Pascal was working on this and the Maloran127901:02:10,180 --> 01:02:12,880and the Malorian and the Mandalorian season 3 at128001:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,580the same time.128101:02:13,580 --> 01:02:16,880He is reportedly earning $600,000 per episode on128201:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,580the last of us and $720,000 per Mandalorian episode128301:02:23,580 --> 01:02:26,380making one of the highest paid American television128401:02:26,380 --> 01:02:27,580stars working today.128501:02:27,880 --> 01:02:32,480That's nearly a million dollars a million dollars128601:02:32,780 --> 01:02:33,280a week.128701:02:33,780 --> 01:02:36,080Bella Ramsey vowed not to look at social media128801:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,880comments when her casting was announced saying it128901:02:38,880 --> 01:02:40,780was her first experience with a lot of negative129001:02:40,780 --> 01:02:43,680reactions that she was aware of all of it.129101:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,180So while not part of the episode itself, Naughty129201:02:46,180 --> 01:02:48,080Dog dedicated the release of the third episode to129301:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,080Annie Wershing Tess's voice and motion capture129401:02:51,080 --> 01:02:55,280actor who sadly passed away from the from unspecified129501:02:55,280 --> 01:02:58,480form of cancer on the eve of airing of the eve of129601:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,980the airing of season one episode 3.129701:02:59,980 --> 01:03:01,180She was just 45.129801:03:01,380 --> 01:03:03,780So the clicker sound that is made by is actually129901:03:03,780 --> 01:03:06,680made by the same two actors Misty Lee and Philip130001:03:06,980 --> 01:03:10,080Kovacs that performed the male and female clicker130101:03:10,080 --> 01:03:10,980voices in the video game.130201:03:10,980 --> 01:03:12,280So basically the same people who made those130301:03:12,280 --> 01:03:13,780noises in the video game make them awesome.130401:03:13,780 --> 01:03:15,680I could do that job.130501:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,780So we got Matthew Conahay Mahershala Lee Hugh130601:03:20,780 --> 01:03:23,680Jackman Michael Fassbender John Bernthal Gerard Butler130701:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,180Josh Brolin John Ham David Harbour Keanu Reeves130801:03:26,180 --> 01:03:28,980Chris Hemsworth Harrison Ford Tom Hardy and Joel130901:03:28,980 --> 01:03:31,480Edgerton were all considered an audition for the131001:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,680role of Joel Miller before Pedro Pascal was cast.131101:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,780Wow, that's that's kind of incredible.131201:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,180Both Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey appeared in the131301:03:38,180 --> 01:03:41,380HBO series Game of Thrones Pascal obviously131401:03:41,380 --> 01:03:44,280portrayed Oberon Martell and Ramsey appeared as131501:03:44,580 --> 01:03:48,080Leanna Mormont who gets crushed by a giant in131601:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,680the battle for Winterfell and obviously Oberon131701:03:50,680 --> 01:03:53,080gets his skull crushed by the mountain which is131801:03:53,180 --> 01:03:53,980Jesus.131901:03:53,980 --> 01:03:56,080Yeah, but at least Mormont she like went out with132001:03:56,080 --> 01:03:59,080a bang, you know, yeah, so she was such a badass132101:03:59,080 --> 01:04:00,080in that show too.132201:04:00,180 --> 01:04:00,580Yep.132301:04:00,680 --> 01:04:00,980Yep.132401:04:00,980 --> 01:04:02,780So speaking of Game of Thrones, both Maisie132501:04:02,780 --> 01:04:05,280Williams and Caitlin Dever were both up for the132601:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,580role of Ellie before the two aged out of the long132701:04:07,580 --> 01:04:10,980gestating project the titles of the first and132801:04:10,980 --> 01:04:12,580last episodes of the first season complete the132901:04:12,580 --> 01:04:14,980message when you're lost in the darkness look for133001:04:14,980 --> 01:04:16,280the light, which is really cool.133101:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,480Eagle-eyed viewers spotted that in the first133201:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,780episode the Miller family unconsciously or133301:04:20,780 --> 01:04:23,080somewhat consciously in Joel's case as he has133401:04:23,080 --> 01:04:25,380been on a high protein low carb Atkins diet133501:04:25,680 --> 01:04:27,680avoided food with flour in it for the day of the133601:04:27,680 --> 01:04:29,880outbreak and in later years adopted the theory133701:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,880that a fungus spreading via invested flour.133801:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,980This theory was furthered by the beginning of the133901:04:34,980 --> 01:04:37,880second episode as one of the first people to fall134001:04:37,880 --> 01:04:40,180victim to the fungus worked at a flour and grain134101:04:40,180 --> 01:04:42,280factory the third episode all but confirmed this134201:04:42,280 --> 01:04:45,080theory as Joel says the best guess about how the134301:04:45,080 --> 01:04:45,680outbreak spread.134401:04:45,680 --> 01:04:48,280It was that the fungus got into key food ingredients134501:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,880that hit the shelves at around the same time all134601:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,480over the world and finally Pedro Pascal and Bella134701:04:53,480 --> 01:04:55,480Ramsey formed a friendship so strong that the duo134801:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,880and their fans refer to them as a real life Joel134901:04:57,880 --> 01:04:59,080and Ellie, which is really nice.135001:04:59,380 --> 01:05:01,480You see the lot on social media a lot on Instagram135101:05:02,080 --> 01:05:03,880where they are posting behind the scenes stuff and135201:05:03,880 --> 01:05:06,180it seems like Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey have135301:05:06,180 --> 01:05:08,480really honestly formed a really great friendship.135401:05:08,480 --> 01:05:11,180So I had this city and everyone in it.135501:05:11,580 --> 01:05:13,480Let's go ahead and round this thing out Aaron.135601:05:13,480 --> 01:05:17,180So final thoughts on the last of us overall did us135701:05:17,180 --> 01:05:19,180talking about the series change anything for you?135801:05:19,380 --> 01:05:20,080Not really.135901:05:20,080 --> 01:05:23,280I mean, I think I still very much enjoyed it again.136001:05:23,280 --> 01:05:24,280I think it was just for me.136101:05:24,280 --> 01:05:27,680It was a it was a pacing issue from the first four136201:05:27,680 --> 01:05:30,880to five episodes and the last four for sure.136301:05:31,180 --> 01:05:33,780Yeah, so but I did I really enjoyed it.136401:05:34,180 --> 01:05:35,380I will say this.136501:05:35,380 --> 01:05:39,380I did not expect to cry at all and as much as I136601:05:39,380 --> 01:05:41,680did on some of these episodes and just the sheer136701:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,480like amount of times where I was like, oh shit,136801:05:43,580 --> 01:05:45,580like, you know, jump scares and stuff.136901:05:45,880 --> 01:05:48,780Is it the greatest video game adaptation to be put137001:05:48,780 --> 01:05:49,280on film?137101:05:50,080 --> 01:05:51,780I would have to play the video game to give you137201:05:51,780 --> 01:05:52,580that answer.137301:05:52,580 --> 01:05:52,980Sure.137401:05:53,280 --> 01:05:53,580Is it?137501:05:53,580 --> 01:05:55,680They said not Tech of Pikachu answer the question137601:05:55,680 --> 01:05:58,280Aaron stop dodging Super Mario Brothers the original137701:05:58,280 --> 01:06:01,080one Bob Hoskins Mario Mario and Luigi Mario.137801:06:01,380 --> 01:06:01,780Yes.137901:06:01,780 --> 01:06:03,280Yeah, you know your final thoughts, sir.138001:06:03,480 --> 01:06:04,080I loved it.138101:06:04,180 --> 01:06:05,980I really really loved it.138201:06:06,080 --> 01:06:08,580I think it's exactly what I wanted from the series138301:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,080again as someone who was a fan of the first game138401:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,480and someone who has not played the rest of it.138501:06:12,480 --> 01:06:15,580I'm glad that they only went up to not even not138601:06:15,580 --> 01:06:17,080even to the end of the first game, which is really138701:06:17,080 --> 01:06:17,480awesome.138801:06:17,480 --> 01:06:19,680There's a lot of material there and I'm really happy138901:06:19,680 --> 01:06:20,980with the the cast.139001:06:20,980 --> 01:06:22,780I'm happy with the people who are show running the139101:06:22,780 --> 01:06:23,380series.139201:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,080I think that this is if we can get five similar139301:06:27,080 --> 01:06:28,780seasons to what we got here or better.139401:06:28,780 --> 01:06:31,580I'll be it'll be you'll be hard-pressed to find a139501:06:31,580 --> 01:06:34,080better adaptation of any medium whether it be video139601:06:34,080 --> 01:06:34,980games or otherwise.139701:06:35,480 --> 01:06:36,980I have one more question for you though.139801:06:37,080 --> 01:06:37,380Okay.139901:06:38,980 --> 01:06:42,380Are you not getting tired of post post-apocalyptic140001:06:42,380 --> 01:06:44,180zombie type shows?140101:06:44,480 --> 01:06:45,980No, not really.140201:06:45,980 --> 01:06:49,380Not yet only because a lot of times what we have140301:06:49,380 --> 01:06:51,580are zombies, you know the undead.140401:06:51,780 --> 01:06:53,580This is a slightly different.140501:06:53,580 --> 01:06:56,980I like a I like a slight you know, a little bit140601:06:56,980 --> 01:07:00,180of I like a slight, you know pivot from whatever140701:07:00,380 --> 01:07:02,580whatever the mainstream is or whatever, you know,140801:07:02,580 --> 01:07:04,980people are starting to get a little sick of like a140901:07:04,980 --> 01:07:07,180slight deconstruction of what that genre is and I141001:07:07,180 --> 01:07:09,180think the last of us offer something really interesting141101:07:09,180 --> 01:07:12,580that a lot of the zombie stuff doesn't good answer.141201:07:12,580 --> 01:07:13,380You see a lot of people.141301:07:13,380 --> 01:07:15,480Yeah, you people who have like compared this to141401:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,280the walking dead.141501:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,480I don't think this is even close like the walking141601:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,180does not even close to this the walking dead season141701:07:22,180 --> 01:07:24,880one is pretty good and then the rest of it is a141801:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,480hard hard nosedive into average or bad and this is141901:07:29,980 --> 01:07:33,380fucking top-tier television as somebody who who142001:07:33,480 --> 01:07:35,380thrives in resolution.142101:07:35,780 --> 01:07:38,080I cannot stand the walking dead because there is142201:07:38,080 --> 01:07:38,780no resolution.142301:07:38,780 --> 01:07:40,880There's no exactly at no point.142401:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,580They say, oh, this is what started it and I know142501:07:43,580 --> 01:07:46,180that the discussion between you know, Ellie and142601:07:46,180 --> 01:07:50,280and Joel is is purely speculation, but it's speculation142701:07:50,280 --> 01:07:51,080that makes sense.142801:07:51,080 --> 01:07:55,980It's it's you know, why like you don't know how it142901:07:55,980 --> 01:07:59,080necessarily started but you know why it did and they143001:07:59,080 --> 01:08:00,980explain that almost right at the beginning and143101:08:00,980 --> 01:08:02,180that's what I Indonesia.143201:08:02,380 --> 01:08:04,580Yeah, that's that whole beginning that oh yeah,143301:08:04,580 --> 01:08:05,780cold opening of episode 2.143401:08:05,780 --> 01:08:08,180I think is kind of explains a lot of that exactly143501:08:08,180 --> 01:08:10,480that and the discussion between the scientists like143601:08:10,480 --> 01:08:12,380there's there's so many things that build upon a143701:08:12,380 --> 01:08:14,980little bit of a little bit of it a foundational,143801:08:15,280 --> 01:08:18,480you know world building that you don't get in other143901:08:18,480 --> 01:08:22,680series. That's that's what will definitely put this144001:08:22,680 --> 01:08:25,680above what the walking dead ever was for me because144101:08:25,780 --> 01:08:27,980I can't watch a show when I know that they're never144201:08:27,980 --> 01:08:29,980going to reveal the answer of what started it.144301:08:30,180 --> 01:08:32,280I don't think I don't even like there's not even a144401:08:32,280 --> 01:08:34,680comparison my brain when I think of the show the144501:08:34,680 --> 01:08:36,680walking dead doesn't even creep into my mind because144601:08:36,780 --> 01:08:38,080it's not even close to my opinion.144701:08:38,480 --> 01:08:41,180Cary Cora Cora.144801:08:43,280 --> 01:08:46,380Okay, spoilers for the end of episode of the first144901:08:46,380 --> 01:08:48,380video game everybody remember we were going to145001:08:48,380 --> 01:08:49,280talk about at the beginning.145101:08:49,380 --> 01:08:51,780Yeah, so if you don't want to know skip to Aaron's145201:08:51,780 --> 01:08:53,180arcade before we rate this thing.145301:08:53,180 --> 01:08:55,380I'm gonna tell everybody that and I've already kind145401:08:55,380 --> 01:08:57,480of basically told everybody Joel dies fucking dies145501:08:57,480 --> 01:08:58,380Joel fucking dies.145601:08:58,380 --> 01:09:01,380All right, and Ellie has to die.145701:09:02,580 --> 01:09:04,480He is in a fight with someone at the end of the145801:09:04,480 --> 01:09:04,880first one.145901:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,080I can't remember who he fights, but he ends up kind146001:09:07,080 --> 01:09:08,880of semi-sacrificing himself for Ellie.146101:09:09,280 --> 01:09:10,780So it's the last final.146201:09:10,980 --> 01:09:13,280It's the it's the final boss or whatever of the146301:09:13,380 --> 01:09:14,480of the first game.146401:09:14,980 --> 01:09:17,180So Aaron out of five day by day winers, we're going146501:09:17,180 --> 01:09:18,580to rate this thing.146601:09:18,580 --> 01:09:20,480Of course David I want to being our documentarian146701:09:20,480 --> 01:09:25,280of the universe are Lord and Savior director writer146801:09:25,680 --> 01:09:27,880search of tomorrow and search of darkness out of146901:09:27,880 --> 01:09:29,080five David a winers Aaron.147001:09:29,080 --> 01:09:30,280What are you going to give the last of us?147101:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,080I'm going to give it a three and that's because147201:09:34,080 --> 01:09:36,380again, I thought it was amazing.147301:09:36,480 --> 01:09:38,980I almost wanted to give it a 2.5.147401:09:38,980 --> 01:09:39,680I'm going to be honest.147501:09:40,580 --> 01:09:42,180I almost wanted to get out of my side.147601:09:42,680 --> 01:09:43,280No, sir.147701:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,980I decided I decided don't don't tell me how to rate147801:09:45,980 --> 01:09:47,480my show my good man.147901:09:47,780 --> 01:09:52,880I gave it a three simply because again, and I guess148001:09:52,880 --> 01:09:54,480you know, you asked me a few minutes ago.148101:09:54,780 --> 01:09:57,980Did any of our discussion adjust how I looked at148201:09:57,980 --> 01:10:00,780this show and and just the few minutes alone the148301:10:00,780 --> 01:10:02,680last few minutes it did so I'm going to give it a148401:10:02,680 --> 01:10:07,080three because yes world building resolution to the148501:10:07,080 --> 01:10:11,080cause the the scenery the the the practical effects148601:10:11,080 --> 01:10:14,580all that stuff really did did such a good job for148701:10:14,580 --> 01:10:17,380me and I will say that again, the only thing that148801:10:17,380 --> 01:10:21,280really kind of didn't give me a 3.5 was mainly148901:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,180because of like pacing in those last four episodes.149001:10:24,480 --> 01:10:28,280But yeah, so I mean again, I didn't I did enjoy I149101:10:28,280 --> 01:10:30,980really I would recommend it totally but I'm going149201:10:30,980 --> 01:10:31,980to leave it at a three.149301:10:32,180 --> 01:10:35,780Okay, I'm going to give it a 4.5 out of five.149401:10:35,780 --> 01:10:36,680Holy shit.149501:10:36,680 --> 01:10:37,480I really love this.149601:10:37,480 --> 01:10:38,380I told you I loved it.149701:10:38,780 --> 01:10:39,880You are such a giver.149801:10:40,480 --> 01:10:42,180No, I just I think it's that good.149901:10:42,180 --> 01:10:45,480It's it is going to be I think going into our last150001:10:45,480 --> 01:10:47,580call awards at the end of the year as probably my150101:10:47,580 --> 01:10:48,880favorite TV series of the year.150201:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,580And again, we're just now getting into Mandalorian.150301:10:51,580 --> 01:10:52,780We've got some Marvel shows.150401:10:52,780 --> 01:10:55,280We've got just the bear season to like there's a150501:10:55,280 --> 01:10:57,380bunch of shit coming out this year that could easily150601:10:57,380 --> 01:10:57,980compete with this.150701:10:57,980 --> 01:10:59,980But I think as of right now it is definitely the150801:10:59,980 --> 01:11:03,580best show of 2023 and I just I love everything150901:11:03,680 --> 01:11:04,080about it.151001:11:04,080 --> 01:11:06,680I think if there's one shortcoming is there's like151101:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,980a couple episodes were a little slow for me.151201:11:09,380 --> 01:11:10,980There are certain bits of episodes that were a151301:11:10,980 --> 01:11:11,780little slow for me.151401:11:11,780 --> 01:11:14,180But I understand the reasoning for that.151501:11:14,180 --> 01:11:15,980That's that I don't really even consider that a151601:11:15,980 --> 01:11:17,680hampering of the the show itself.151701:11:17,680 --> 01:11:19,880I think it's just that they had to do the leg work151801:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,280for you to care about these characters.151901:11:21,280 --> 01:11:22,980So you had to like sit down and talk to these152001:11:22,980 --> 01:11:23,580characters.152101:11:23,580 --> 01:11:25,180You had to sit down with them for a minute to care152201:11:25,180 --> 01:11:25,980about them, right?152301:11:26,580 --> 01:11:28,480So yeah, I'm going to give it a 4.5.152401:11:28,480 --> 01:11:29,580I think it's worthy of that.152501:11:29,580 --> 01:11:30,880I told you the beginning it wasn't going to be a152601:11:30,880 --> 01:11:31,780five there.152701:11:31,780 --> 01:11:34,780There are some small things but overall really152801:11:34,780 --> 01:11:37,280really solid really love it one of my favorite152901:11:37,280 --> 01:12:06,280video game adaptations of all time.153001:12:07,280 --> 01:12:13,980All righty.153101:12:13,980 --> 01:12:15,680Well, that'll do it for our review of the last153201:12:15,680 --> 01:12:15,980of us.153301:12:15,980 --> 01:12:18,280Let's go ahead and get into a segment of the show153401:12:18,280 --> 01:12:20,780that we have not done in a hot minute and I'm153501:12:20,780 --> 01:12:22,680very very excited to see what's going on in153601:12:22,680 --> 01:12:23,680errands arcade.153701:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,080It's time for errands arcade.153801:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,780Welcome to errands arcade pull up a chair or153901:12:35,780 --> 01:12:38,980stool put that quarter right next to that player154001:12:38,980 --> 01:12:41,680to challenge button today.154101:12:41,680 --> 01:12:43,980I'm going to be talking about Clark'sville con154201:12:43,980 --> 01:12:46,380which just happened recently here in where I154301:12:46,380 --> 01:12:48,180live right outside of Fort Campbell Clark'sville154401:12:48,180 --> 01:12:52,680con is a local convention amazing turnout.154501:12:52,680 --> 01:12:55,980It's only a one day convention and I actually154601:12:55,980 --> 01:12:59,880have the the luck of knowing the the coordinator154701:12:59,880 --> 01:13:02,480for the for the convention my good buddy car154801:13:02,480 --> 01:13:02,780mine.154901:13:02,780 --> 01:13:06,580So he lets me volunteer and help my dog.155001:13:06,580 --> 01:13:09,780No, not that car mine, but he lets me help out.155101:13:09,780 --> 01:13:12,180I will sometimes, you know, you know take cash155201:13:12,180 --> 01:13:15,380at the door for tickets this time actually had155301:13:15,380 --> 01:13:18,480the really amazing pleasure of hanging out with155401:13:18,480 --> 01:13:21,080some of the guest celebrities.155501:13:21,080 --> 01:13:22,280I thought it would be a good idea to kind of155601:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,380get some practice for some CSA stuff that I155701:13:24,380 --> 01:13:24,980might be doing.155801:13:24,980 --> 01:13:26,580Yeah, comic sketch art.155901:13:26,580 --> 01:13:29,480So I actually got to kind of be a gofer slash156001:13:29,480 --> 01:13:33,180helper for Catherine Sutherland who is actually156101:13:33,180 --> 01:13:35,180one of the Pink Rangers.156201:13:35,180 --> 01:13:39,480I want to say Dino Thunder Linda Young who is156301:13:39,480 --> 01:13:42,880the American voice actress or actor for Frieza156401:13:42,880 --> 01:13:45,280from the Dragon Ball Z series.156501:13:45,280 --> 01:13:47,980Free that you're going to die dirty.156601:13:47,980 --> 01:13:50,280A carotid.156701:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,980Cynthia Kranz who actually did the voice for156801:13:52,980 --> 01:13:56,680she's the American voice actress for Chi Chi156901:13:56,680 --> 01:13:58,680from Dragon Ball as well.157001:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,980And so and then there was I want to say his157101:14:00,980 --> 01:14:02,280last name was Nemo.157201:14:02,280 --> 01:14:03,580I didn't really talk to him very much.157301:14:03,580 --> 01:14:04,780He was much further down the road.157401:14:04,780 --> 01:14:08,980He was very self self-sustaining.157501:14:08,980 --> 01:14:10,180He was like the Silver Ranger.157601:14:10,180 --> 01:14:14,680I want to say from from something from Power Rangers157701:14:14,680 --> 01:14:15,980one of the generations of Power Rangers.157801:14:15,980 --> 01:14:18,280Yes, one of them one of the 1889 generations157901:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,580of Power Rangers, but I will say this Catherine158001:14:20,580 --> 01:14:27,480Sutherland amazing super nice Cynthia Kranz just158101:14:27,480 --> 01:14:29,580Linda Young amazing people.158201:14:29,580 --> 01:14:31,180I actually got to take Linda Young and Cynthia158301:14:31,180 --> 01:14:34,480Kranz to the airport this morning and and and158401:14:34,480 --> 01:14:37,180yeah, so it's just kind of cool to have two very158501:14:37,180 --> 01:14:41,180very prominent voice legends in the anime158601:14:41,180 --> 01:14:44,380industry in the back of my Hyundai Kona.158701:14:44,380 --> 01:14:47,680So so it's very and they got they hug me when158801:14:47,680 --> 01:14:48,780I when I dropped off the airport.158901:14:48,780 --> 01:14:49,880I wasn't sure I was getting my brain.159001:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,980I was like I'm going to help to get their bags159101:14:51,980 --> 01:14:53,480out and they're like, oh, thank you so much for159201:14:53,480 --> 01:14:53,880the ride.159301:14:53,880 --> 01:14:54,680And then they gave me a hug.159401:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,280They were so sweet loved them.159501:14:57,280 --> 01:14:58,680You didn't even get a stinger.159601:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,980I didn't I didn't they were so like honestly,159701:15:02,380 --> 01:15:07,080I've never seen somebody work so hard for so long159801:15:07,080 --> 01:15:07,980throughout the day.159901:15:07,980 --> 01:15:09,680Yeah, just to please and it's like, you know,160001:15:09,680 --> 01:15:11,680getting up and sitting down and taking selfies160101:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,980and photos and signing just about everything160201:15:13,980 --> 01:15:15,880that people brought like they were so loving160301:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,480and considerate to their fans.160401:15:17,580 --> 01:15:19,180It was amazing to talk to them and I honestly160501:15:19,180 --> 01:15:22,380just didn't want to ask for too much of them.160601:15:22,380 --> 01:15:23,680Sure, you know, it makes sense.160701:15:23,680 --> 01:15:27,280But and so but I did give them each a set of160801:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,080our of our trading cards to have our characters160901:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,380on ourselves on them and our contact info.161001:15:32,380 --> 01:15:33,580And I asked them, hey, if you're ever interested161101:15:33,580 --> 01:15:35,180in doing a podcast, feel free, you know,161201:15:35,180 --> 01:15:36,080I'll reach out to you.161301:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,880Maybe you want to come on and talk and you know,161401:15:38,880 --> 01:15:40,280so they're they seemed interested.161501:15:40,680 --> 01:15:41,480I know they're very tired.161601:15:41,480 --> 01:15:43,480So we'll see what happens going forward.161701:15:43,480 --> 01:15:45,280I tagged them on some stuff on social media.161801:15:46,380 --> 01:15:47,980But yeah, it was just again, it was just a really161901:15:47,980 --> 01:15:48,780good experience.162001:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,180Now, if you guys want to hear me talk about video162101:15:50,180 --> 01:15:51,480games, I will talk about the fact that I've been162201:15:51,480 --> 01:15:53,880playing Returnal via Steam.162301:15:54,580 --> 01:15:56,680And I'll say this as much as I love that game.162401:15:56,780 --> 01:15:57,880I really do love the game.162501:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,580Fuck that game.162601:16:00,080 --> 01:16:00,680I love it.162701:16:00,780 --> 01:16:01,780I really love it guys.162801:16:01,780 --> 01:16:02,680I love fuck it.162901:16:02,780 --> 01:16:05,580So it's so frustrating.163001:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,180I love like that's my whole new thing now is163101:16:08,580 --> 01:16:10,680rogue light games where basically you you know,163201:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,480you just do the almost the same stuff.163301:16:12,580 --> 01:16:14,580And it's weird because I normally I would never163401:16:14,580 --> 01:16:17,880think that oh, I love very, you know, repetitive163501:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,580games, but it's never the same.163601:16:19,580 --> 01:16:20,480It's never the same.163701:16:20,480 --> 01:16:21,580And that's what's amazing about it.163801:16:21,580 --> 01:16:23,980So if you have any tips, feel free to hit me up163901:16:23,980 --> 01:16:25,780on social media at better actions.164001:16:26,080 --> 01:16:27,880That's on Instagram or on Twitter.164101:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,880And that way hopefully one day I can win.164201:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,680I can beat the game because right now I'm just164301:16:33,080 --> 01:16:34,780literally doing the same like shit over and over164401:16:34,780 --> 01:16:36,880again and get my but I'm a anyways.164501:16:36,880 --> 01:16:37,380I love it.164601:16:37,380 --> 01:16:38,480It's so much fun.164701:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,580So saying that appreciate guys listening.164801:16:41,580 --> 01:16:43,280Let's get into my favorite part of the show,164901:16:43,280 --> 01:16:44,680which is Chris's Corner.165001:16:44,680 --> 01:16:47,980It's time for Chris's Corner.165101:16:52,780 --> 01:16:54,280All righty for Chris's Corner.165201:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,180We're going to be talking about uncanny X-Force,165301:16:56,180 --> 01:16:59,180which is the run from 2010 to 2012 is written by165401:16:59,180 --> 01:17:01,480Rick Bremender and illustrated by Jerome Opinia.165501:17:01,980 --> 01:17:05,680And this is a very notorious run of the X-Force.165601:17:05,680 --> 01:17:07,780People love this series mostly because of the team,165701:17:08,180 --> 01:17:10,080which I will go over here in just a moment.165801:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,380But this is my first time reading Chris's Corner.165901:17:12,380 --> 01:17:14,880Just a moment, but this is my first time reading through166001:17:14,880 --> 01:17:16,280and I really liked it.166101:17:16,380 --> 01:17:16,580Aaron.166201:17:16,580 --> 01:17:19,180I think the first two series are the first two arcs.166301:17:19,180 --> 01:17:19,580Excuse me.166401:17:19,580 --> 01:17:22,580We're like really what we're like really totally my my166501:17:22,580 --> 01:17:23,080jam.166601:17:23,380 --> 01:17:25,880But after that it gets once you get into like the166701:17:25,880 --> 01:17:27,880Dark Angel Saga, which is the third arc.166801:17:28,080 --> 01:17:29,180I kind of fell off a little bit.166901:17:29,180 --> 01:17:30,780Maybe someone can out there listening.167001:17:30,780 --> 01:17:34,180If you've read the uncanny X-Force run, maybe you167101:17:34,180 --> 01:17:36,180can help me kind of reattach myself to it, but I167201:17:36,180 --> 01:17:37,480just haven't really loved it as much.167301:17:37,480 --> 01:17:38,280So I kind of hopped off.167401:17:38,280 --> 01:17:40,980But here's the synopsis for the series killing to167501:17:40,980 --> 01:17:42,680save a world that hates and fears them.167601:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,480This is this is not the X-Men.167701:17:44,580 --> 01:17:46,080This is the uncanny X-Force.167801:17:46,380 --> 01:17:49,580Psylocke, Archangel, Deadpool, Phantom X sign up167901:17:49,580 --> 01:17:52,080for Wolverine's secret squad of assassins, but their168001:17:52,080 --> 01:17:54,880first mission to find and deal with the reborn child168101:17:54,880 --> 01:17:56,380version of Apocalypse.168201:17:56,880 --> 01:17:58,680As the members of the X-Force struggle to come to168301:17:58,680 --> 01:18:01,480terms with their actions, one among them unravels168401:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,280in what could be called only as the Dark Angel Saga.168501:18:05,480 --> 01:18:08,180Familiar faces like Deathlock, a return to the168601:18:08,180 --> 01:18:11,280age of Apocalypse, a warring other world and an all168701:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,480new all deadly Brotherhood of evil mutants await168801:18:13,580 --> 01:18:16,580and reminders extraordinary exploration of the ethics168901:18:16,580 --> 01:18:17,680of execution.169001:18:18,280 --> 01:18:20,080So Aaron, we were kind of talking about it briefly169101:18:20,080 --> 01:18:21,080before the show here.169201:18:21,280 --> 01:18:23,380This is essentially the X-Men's death squad.169301:18:23,380 --> 01:18:24,580Like this is their hit squad.169401:18:24,680 --> 01:18:25,680They do the dirty work.169501:18:25,680 --> 01:18:27,880So the X-Men don't have to and they can keep their169601:18:28,180 --> 01:18:30,580you know, their brand nice and clean and shiny.169701:18:30,680 --> 01:18:33,380I really really enjoy the art here by opinion and169801:18:33,380 --> 01:18:35,280the writing by recommender, especially in the first169901:18:35,280 --> 01:18:36,680arc is really incredible.170001:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,580He gets every voice really really well.170101:18:39,580 --> 01:18:42,780Like I'm not super familiar with Phantom X before170201:18:42,780 --> 01:18:43,380the series.170301:18:43,380 --> 01:18:45,980I was going to say that Phantom X is kind of the170401:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,480the highlight in this series.170501:18:47,480 --> 01:18:49,980I especially in the first two arcs like who he is170601:18:49,980 --> 01:18:53,080and his role on the on the team is really compelling.170701:18:53,480 --> 01:18:56,580I feel like he kind of represents what the X-Force170801:18:56,580 --> 01:18:59,380should be and what the other four characters kind170901:18:59,380 --> 01:19:01,980of are afraid to become in a way.171001:19:02,280 --> 01:19:04,380And I just I highly recommend it.171101:19:04,380 --> 01:19:06,380If you for some reason not read uncanny X-Force171201:19:06,380 --> 01:19:09,080like me up until last week, I highly recommend it.171301:19:09,080 --> 01:19:10,180Something you should definitely check out.171401:19:10,180 --> 01:19:11,580They have collected editions.171501:19:11,580 --> 01:19:14,780I think one and two and it's really good, especially171601:19:14,780 --> 01:19:16,380if you love any one of these characters.171701:19:16,580 --> 01:19:19,480It's a fun recommender does something really special171801:19:19,480 --> 01:19:20,580with the back and forth.171901:19:20,580 --> 01:19:22,380You really get to know these characters really well.172001:19:22,580 --> 01:19:26,180And although they are all pretty terrible people you172101:19:26,180 --> 01:19:28,480get to love each one of them because of because you172201:19:28,480 --> 01:19:31,180see who they really are like each of them have had172301:19:31,180 --> 01:19:33,480something very terrible happen to them at some point172401:19:33,480 --> 01:19:35,980in their lives and they do this.172501:19:35,980 --> 01:19:38,980They join the uncanny X-Force because they are characters172601:19:38,980 --> 01:19:41,580that have seen the terrible in the world and are not172701:19:41,580 --> 01:19:43,880afraid to look in its face when it's time to do what172801:19:43,880 --> 01:19:46,280needs to be done and a lot of the other X-Men can't172901:19:46,280 --> 01:19:46,680say that.173001:19:46,680 --> 01:19:50,080So once again uncanny X-Force the recommender run.173101:19:50,180 --> 01:19:50,980Definitely check it out.173201:19:50,980 --> 01:19:51,780Aaron has a question here.173301:19:51,780 --> 01:19:52,380He's raising his hand.173401:19:52,380 --> 01:19:52,880What do you got?173501:19:53,480 --> 01:19:54,980I got two questions for you, sir.173601:19:54,980 --> 01:19:56,980Okay, what are Phantom X's powers?173701:19:58,180 --> 01:20:02,480Phantom X is a clone of some sort and he has like an173801:20:02,480 --> 01:20:05,280alien ship that he speaks to like he puts like this173901:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,080gel thing on his head that he likes.174001:20:07,380 --> 01:20:09,580I think it's called Eve and I'm not mistaken and he174101:20:09,580 --> 01:20:10,880can control it with his mind.174201:20:11,780 --> 01:20:14,480He's basically just like a super badass assassin who174301:20:14,480 --> 01:20:16,880is like, yeah, that's essentially his deal.174401:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,080I think he has some other oh he can like regenerate174501:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,880like he has like regenerative powers as well.174601:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,080So I think he might have been a failed weapon X thing174701:20:25,080 --> 01:20:25,480as well.174801:20:25,480 --> 01:20:27,680There's a lot of a lot of a lot of the coolest174901:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,680characters in the Marvel Universe are all failed175001:20:29,780 --> 01:20:32,780weapon X including Deadpool including Wolverine like175101:20:32,780 --> 01:20:35,580I think it just failed weapons because weapon X is175201:20:35,580 --> 01:20:36,480yeah, what an X is right.175301:20:36,480 --> 01:20:36,880You're right.175401:20:36,880 --> 01:20:37,080Yeah.175501:20:37,080 --> 01:20:38,780So it's the weapon program.175601:20:38,880 --> 01:20:39,180Yeah.175701:20:39,180 --> 01:20:39,580Yeah.175801:20:39,780 --> 01:20:40,080Hold on.175901:20:40,080 --> 01:20:41,180Is it ready for another ding?176001:20:41,380 --> 01:20:44,280Here's another Aaron was right ding right here.176101:20:45,980 --> 01:20:48,880Next question is Deadpool an asshole in this in this176201:20:48,880 --> 01:20:49,780comic series too.176301:20:49,880 --> 01:20:51,480Yeah, he's a he's a dick for sure.176401:20:51,680 --> 01:20:54,180He's mostly he's kind of a lovable one on the on176501:20:54,180 --> 01:20:54,680the team though.176601:20:54,680 --> 01:20:57,180Like he he if anything, it's kind of crazy that he's176701:20:57,180 --> 01:20:59,180the one who has most heart like he's the one who176801:20:59,380 --> 01:21:01,180like when certain things happen in the series.176901:21:01,180 --> 01:21:03,980He's the one that's like yo, this is not what I177001:21:03,980 --> 01:21:06,680signed up for like this is definitely not what I177101:21:06,680 --> 01:21:08,880was hoping to do which is kind of interesting177201:21:08,880 --> 01:21:10,480because again Deadpool is usually the one to just177301:21:10,480 --> 01:21:11,980do whatever he's hired to do.177401:21:12,480 --> 01:21:15,480So Wolverine ironically enough is the one who's177501:21:15,480 --> 01:21:18,480like pretty level-headed about doing the terrible177601:21:18,480 --> 01:21:18,880shit.177701:21:18,980 --> 01:21:21,880So yeah, I know I really love it and I highly177801:21:21,880 --> 01:21:22,280recommend it.177901:21:22,280 --> 01:21:24,480So Aaron that'll do it for episode 111.178001:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,280I think we are out of here episode 112 coming in178101:21:27,280 --> 01:21:27,680next week.178201:21:27,680 --> 01:21:29,980We're going to be speaking to Christian Ward and178301:21:29,980 --> 01:21:31,480Patrick Reynolds like we had talked about earlier178401:21:31,480 --> 01:21:31,780today.178501:21:31,780 --> 01:21:34,180We sat down with the creative team behind Blood178601:21:34,180 --> 01:21:35,880Stained Teeth excited to bring that conversation178701:21:35,880 --> 01:21:39,580you guys Aaron is officially a die-hard fan of178801:21:39,580 --> 01:21:42,080Patrick Reynolds now and Christian Ward there.178901:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,380They they won him over during that conversation.179001:21:44,580 --> 01:21:46,680We're all best friends now, especially Patrick179101:21:46,680 --> 01:21:47,980Reynolds because he likes the same games.179201:21:47,980 --> 01:21:50,080I do we have a really funny video of us dancing179301:21:50,080 --> 01:21:52,380to our intro music and I I hope that I can post179401:21:52,380 --> 01:21:54,880that and it'd be okay, but it's really is very179501:21:54,880 --> 01:21:55,280wholesome.179601:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,880So but yeah, that'll do it for episode 111.179701:21:57,880 --> 01:21:58,080Aaron.179801:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,080Why don't you go and take us out of here?179901:21:59,080 --> 01:22:01,480All right, subscribe to our podcast Apple podcast180001:22:01,480 --> 01:22:03,480stitchers, Spotify, Google podcast, Amazon music180101:22:03,480 --> 01:22:06,480Amazon music and I heart radio pretty much anywhere180201:22:06,480 --> 01:22:08,480you can find your podcasts.180301:22:08,480 --> 01:22:09,480That's where we are.180401:22:09,480 --> 01:22:12,080Join 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