April 17, 2023

MOVIE REVIEW: Renfield

MOVIE REVIEW: Renfield

News and Notes (6:09)

For episode 115, Aaron and Chris discuss a new comic book publisher, DSTLRY, shoots to innovate in the way that comics publishers treat creators and readers, Netflix is reportedly developing an American remake of SQUID GAME, and we got our first trailer for Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.

Main Topic (33:03)

For our main topic, we review the latest horror-comedy from Chris McKay: RENFIELD!

R.M. Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's prey and do his every bidding. However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow of the Prince of Darkness.

Aaron’s Arcade (1:07:32)

Chris’ Corner (1:12:55)

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1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040 Hey, I'm Jake. 2 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,080 And I'm Jesus. 3 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,480 And we are the hosts of Spec Tales. 4 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040 And you're listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast. 5 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:35,200 Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your hosts, Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles. 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920 Hello, everyone. 7 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,880 Welcome to episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, the official podcast of the Fantasy 8 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,720 Shop in St. Charles, Missouri. 9 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,520 I am Chris Hacker. 10 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,480 I'm one of your co-hosts here. 11 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,640 And joining me this week is my BFF and familiar Aaron Knowles. 12 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,280 You know, when something crazy happens and someone's like, it's OK, I've seen way worse. 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480 Everything I saw today is going to be my way worse. 14 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280 You know, it's funny is that is from OK, everybody. 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,720 We're talking about Renfield today. 16 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,600 That's from Aquafina. 17 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280 And I think if I remember correctly, we talked about Shang-Chi, you have a very particular 18 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,200 view on Aquafina. 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560 You're not really a giant fan. 20 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,040 Is that correct? 21 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Or my did I is that like Mandela effect? 22 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,760 Did I just like assume that I think you're just assuming that. 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,120 But it's also kind of true. 24 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840 I was going to say I'm almost positive. 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840 I've heard you say at some point in our friendship, you don't really like you can't 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520 stand Aquafina for some reason. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000 But actually, I kind of get it after seeing this. 28 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520 Like, I kind of get it a little bit. 29 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440 We'll get into that here in just a bit, everybody. 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,560 Welcome to the Aquafina Bar Podcast. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,920 He fucking hates you. 32 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,880 And I kind of get it. 33 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,640 Oh, man. 34 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,320 Like we said, we are talking about Renfield. 35 00:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,480 This is a movie that talking about our most anticipated films of 2023. 36 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,240 This is a film that we were, I would say, pretty excited about, but one that we're 37 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200 probably not going to cover here on the show. 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320 We were just going to see it individually and just talk about it within our personal 39 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,240 lives, maybe on the grid or something. 40 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040 But schedules made it to where we were like, you know what, let's cut this one for us. 41 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280 You know, sometimes you got to do one for the boys. 42 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120 And Renfield is that for us. 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,920 We wanted to cover this. 44 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120 Do it for your balls. 45 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,200 I don't know what. 46 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,440 What? 47 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,920 I don't know. 48 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,320 I don't know. 49 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Welcome to the Oblivion Bar Podcast. 50 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:15,600 We're on Patreon. 51 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,560 Yeah. 52 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:16,960 Yeah. 53 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,000 You want to talk about your balls? 54 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000 Go to patreon.com forward slash Oblivion Bar Podcast. 55 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,240 That's where you can hear about our balls is on the grid, which if you don't know, 56 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,800 now you know. 57 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,720 We save all of our ball talk. 58 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280 Yes. 59 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,120 Yes. I got a funny story. 60 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,560 Can I tell you a funny story real quick? 61 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,760 Go ahead. 62 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,240 Okay. 63 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640 So one time, this is, you know, if you don't know already, if you're new to the show, 64 00:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,760 even if you're not new, you know that Chris and I were both in the army. 65 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,480 Okay. 66 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120 And things are a little bit different in the army. 67 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,320 Okay. 68 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,960 You can talk about it when I was in compared. 69 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760 You mean just like in general or from when I was in both. 70 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,760 Got it. 71 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,960 Different, different worlds. 72 00:02:52,960 --> 00:03:02,320 So during my second deployment, which was, I want to say 2006, 2005, no, 2006, like 2007. 73 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000 Anyways, so I'm in Iraq. 74 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760 We're in the motor pool, which is where we stage all of our vehicles, all of our trucks, 75 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320 because Chris and I were both 88 mics, right? 76 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,880 No, no, no. 77 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,440 You were a golf. 78 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040 No, I was a 92 Fox. 79 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600 But a Fox. 80 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,240 Yeah, he was a fuel. 81 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320 So we both dealt with the same thing. 82 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,360 They're essentially the same thing. 83 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840 Um, you got to drive the truck with the gas on the back of it. 84 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,040 He's a fucking idiot, Mike. 85 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,840 So don't let him fool you. 86 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,200 I'm an 88 Mike that gives out gas. 87 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,440 Yes. 88 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,760 Sometimes. 89 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,240 Yes. 90 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,680 So we're in the motor pool and I just remember, I don't know how the discussion, 91 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320 I can't tell you anything surrounding this conversation. 92 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800 I just remember describing my balls as dog balls because they hang down very low. 93 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120 And it was just a funny conversation that I was having with some people in the, 94 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,560 in the motor pool. 95 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280 And you know that you can like, that's army for you. 96 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Armily. 97 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,320 Right, Chris? 98 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880 You can talk about almost whatever the fuck you want. 99 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800 And like people don't really care. 100 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,680 The filter is gone. 101 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680 The filter is gone because you literally. 102 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,640 You suck. 103 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Everything sucks and you suck together. 104 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,360 And so you embrace the suck as they call you embrace the suck. 105 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960 And so you just kind of get down to that nitty gritty of life and you can just talk about 106 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,080 anything anyways. 107 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,040 So I'm just in there talking to him like, oh yeah, I got like dog balls because they 108 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,800 hang down so low and out of nowhere from like around the corner, like my platoon sergeant, 109 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,120 who's like our main supervisor, he goes, what the fuck are you talking about? 110 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,640 You can't be saying shit like that. 111 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480 So basically I ended up doing pushups for the entire rest of that day. 112 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,640 I don't know why I'm talking about this, but anyways, join us on patreon.com forward slash 113 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,280 oblivion bar pot where you can hear more talk like that. 114 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,240 You want more ball talk? 115 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,360 Go to the oblivion. 116 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,480 I get where I was going with that. 117 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,000 There's on the grid. 118 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,040 There's no filter. 119 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,680 It's that's right. 120 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240 It's formula free. 121 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600 That's just a little taste, a little teaser of all teaser. 122 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,100 Okay. 123 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,200 So patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar. 124 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,040 God, we're going to lose so many viewers over that story. 125 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,920 They've already turned it off. 126 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,360 They've already turned the episode off. 127 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,320 I'm so sorry. 128 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,160 You can, you can edit all of that out. 129 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Now, we're keeping it in for your contribution over at patreon. 130 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560 You can have access to the grid, which is basically the last five minutes. 131 00:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,040 Ball talk. 132 00:04:59,280 --> 00:04:59,840 It's our page. 133 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:05,040 If you're not talking about Aaron's balls, we're talking about my ass, which is colon, 134 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,320 colon talk or CGC. 135 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,240 Our exclusive weekly podcast strictly Aaron's balls, my ass and CGC comics. 136 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,240 That's a weird kink. 137 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,440 And true. 138 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,280 X you also get access to episode transcripts, early access to these episodes. 139 00:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,080 And you get a special shout out at the end of each oblivion bar episode. 140 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320 Like you'll hear later on, which I do. 141 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,200 And I love doing, um, once again, patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod. 142 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Check us out again. 143 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080 Everything that we get through Patreon goes back into the show to make the show even better. 144 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,480 And we appreciate your support, honestly, like no, all jokes aside, we very much appreciate 145 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,400 everybody's support that we've gotten so far. 146 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,160 And it meets the world of us. 147 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,080 It means, you know, it just, it really helps us make this show better. 148 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400 And it really is from go back and listen. 149 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,560 That don't don't go back and listen to episode one, uh, but just know that it's better. 150 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,040 Okay. 151 00:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,840 Yeah, absolutely. 152 00:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,000 It has gotten definitely much better since episode one, both of the oblivion bar and of 153 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,680 the grid, both we've gotten significantly, we've streamlined this stuff. 154 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,160 So, uh, without it, without further ado, and hopefully no more ball talk, let's go 155 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,440 ahead and get into our using notes. 156 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,480 News and notes. 157 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,720 All righty. 158 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,280 Our news and notes this week is sponsored by what not what not to buy or sell comics, 159 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,680 Funko pops, trading cards, or even shoes. 160 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,960 What not has you covered? 161 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,360 You can download what not any iOS or Android device, and please use our referral link in 162 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080 our show notes to get $15 upon signup. 163 00:06:32,080 --> 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first things I ever learned when I learned to speak German was, uh, they 178 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,280 have like a TV show, like a children's TV show. 179 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,800 So anybody knows the easiest way to learn a language is to watch like a children's TV 180 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,040 show. 181 00:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,360 And so they had this musical like show. 182 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,080 I don't know what it's called cause I'm fucking German, but, um, it was the song and it was 183 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840 talking, it was about this soccer. 184 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,480 This is this, uh, cow that lost his soccer shoe. 185 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760 He can only find one of them and he was a rather small cow. 186 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,600 So, uh, decline a coup has I didn't foosball shoe. 187 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,200 Okay. 188 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,360 And the song declined a coup, declined a coup has I didn't, I didn't foosball shoe. 189 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,320 That's how you remember that? 190 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960 Yeah. 191 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,520 Okay. 192 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,360 Everyone at home listening right now, Aaron is going to keep trying his absolute best 193 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,840 to just divert every single conversation we have into another topic. 194 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,960 So just bear with us. 195 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760 I will be your, I'll be your huckleberry. 196 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,520 I will keep us on track, but Aaron will keep giving us small lessons in German and 197 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440 ball talk throughout the show. 198 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480 And I can tell that Chris is being passive aggressive right now. 199 00:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Is it coming through the show? 200 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520 Can people hear that on the other, please let us know. 201 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,800 Oblivion bar podcast. 202 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320 I don't think you know how that is. 203 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,360 No, I love it. 204 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,160 It's so hurtful. 205 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400 Your past is very genuine. 206 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200 I love, I love the ball talk and I love learning German. 207 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600 You're so sarcastic and it's hurtful. 208 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Is the sarcasm not helping the passive aggressive? 209 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320 It's not. 210 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:18,720 It's not. 211 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,200 Okay. 212 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,080 Let's get into, we'll talk more about our toxic relationship later on during our regular 213 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360 review, but before that, let's go ahead and talk about new comic publishers because 214 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000 Go to the comic book couples counseling show and have them help us. 215 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Brad, Lisa help. 216 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,080 We have a brand new comic publisher distillery which shoots to innovate in the way that comics 217 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 in the way that comic publishers treat comic creators and the readers. 218 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,560 So the team behind Comixology Originals, David Sternberger and Chip Mosher are back as 219 00:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,960 co-founders of a brand new comic publisher distillery. 220 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,440 The lineup of creators or quote unquote founders of this new publisher are absolutely stacked. 221 00:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,800 Comic giants like James Tinian the fourth, Scott Snyder, Becky Klumman, Jock, Rom V, 222 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,600 Brian Azzarello, Joelle Jones, good friend of the show, Elsa Chardier, Stephanie Phillips, 223 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280 and Erin, one of your favorites, Mirka and Dolph are all some of the creators involved with this. 224 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880 So you've probably saw this on social media over the last week. 225 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,320 All of these creators posted this. 226 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 It was all very ambiguous initially, but after looking it up and seeing what was actually 227 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600 going on, distillery is essentially offering equity in the company and readers, a marketplace 228 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,160 for digital collectibles, a build as kind of like a stub hub of comics. 229 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,320 The creators will own all their IP and successful careers will even share in the equity of the 230 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,720 company via like a third, I guess like 3% pull set aside for other purposes and whatnot. 231 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040 According to the New York Times launch article, distillery will launch officially at San Diego 232 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,360 Comic-Con 2023 with the Devil's Cut, which is an anthology featuring basically all of those 233 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 founding creators that we were just talking about. 234 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,440 So on their website here also Erin, it says creators will have their own work in a piece 235 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,040 of distillery within itself. 236 00:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,400 So they will bring it premium oversized limited edition, single issues, premium limited edition 237 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720 merch, physical and digital. 238 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,760 And it says here you buy, you own, you can sell any of this stuff also on the aftermarket. 239 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,360 I think they're kind of hoping for that. 240 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Creators get a cut every single time. 241 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520 There's no NFT hustle or crypto hassle. 242 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600 So Erin, we talked about this a little bit before the show here, kind of discussing what 243 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,720 this is because, you know, there's already a company in the comic world that gives creators 244 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,000 100% of their creations. 245 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,280 It's called Image Comics. 246 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,080 A lot of people, a lot of comic fans and people within the medium have said that the next 247 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,240 era of comics, because right now we're currently in what's called the modern age of comics. 248 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440 Yeah, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Silver Age, Modern. 249 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,720 Some people have said the next stage will be the image era, which is basically creators 250 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240 finally getting control of their own IP. 251 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640 That seems to be the idea behind distillery. 252 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,320 But, and we kind of divulged this a little bit, like I said, before the show, we think 253 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,360 distillery is trying to add a type of Mondo spin to this, which is, you know, they'll 254 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160 say Scott Snyder has a brand new series out. 255 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760 It's him and Elsa Chardier. 256 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,680 It's a four issue mini series on Friday at noon Eastern time. 257 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,920 We're going to release the single issues. 258 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,640 We're going to release three variants, 50 of one variant, 25 of one and 10 of another 259 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200 plus t-shirts, pens, whatever other kind of merch they have. 260 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,640 Go get it. 261 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760 And it'll be for an affordable price, but you have to be clicking the same way you do 262 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120 when you buy like a Mondo poster. 263 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,640 So interesting idea. 264 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,280 What are your thoughts here with distillery and kind of again, a Mondo type of business 265 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,880 model in the comic world? 266 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,080 I think that this is a great invention, a great idea to throw into the community. 267 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,400 As long as it continues to be tangible. 268 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,400 One thing I'm just never a fan of is that are things like NFTs. 269 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,900 Okay. 270 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,040 Am I a fan of drops? 271 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120 Am I a fan of very limited supply? 272 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,000 Not necessarily. 273 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920 I think that if there's something available that you want to get, then great. 274 00:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,400 As long as so, so I guess to sum up what I'm, what I'm trying to say, I like the idea as 275 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760 long as there's still accessible, it's still accessible. 276 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,920 Whether it's digital and just the physical portion are, is what distillery drops. 277 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,960 I get that. 278 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:18,000 It's a great maneuver for the creator owned industry to make money, to drive interest 279 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000 into specific, in a specific industry. 280 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240 They do it with shoes, a model did it with posters, whatnot does it on their app with 281 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,880 a lot of things. 282 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,960 You know, I like the idea behind it. 283 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,240 What I just don't like is like, is if I see something that I very much want and I'm forced 284 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000 to go to the aftermarket to get it, that's probably going to happen. 285 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000 Unfortunately, I know, I know it's going to happen and I'm not, that's, that's the port. 286 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400 That's the backside of it that I'm not happy about it. 287 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,440 Do I love the fact that creators are getting their own space, their own ability, their own, 288 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,920 their, their remaining with that ownership of their IPs. 289 00:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,840 I love that for the creators. 290 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,560 What sucks though, is the fact that in order to make this a success, you have to limit 291 00:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,080 what's accessible to everybody. 292 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,360 And I get it, but in a, here's, here's, I guess, I don't mean to drag on too much about this, 293 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,400 but there are too many people out there with access to ways of like scalping these items. 294 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,280 Or bots even. 295 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Bots. 296 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,320 Yeah. 297 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,760 So they use bots. 298 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,280 Nobody gets a chance to buy them. 299 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960 They're sold out, they're gone. 300 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:25,520 And now I have to go pay three times the, the, the MSRP because some asshole is, is able to use, 301 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520 like there's gotta be a different way. 302 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,720 So I think what the main idea, and I agree with you with everything that you just said there 303 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,800 is the, what distillery wants to do here is they want to give fans the option to gain 304 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360 or to buy more exclusive things. 305 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520 And the creator gets that right. 306 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,400 Like a lot of times what happens at cons or say like a single issue comes out and it's 307 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,800 got like our first appearance or a variant comic creators do not see any money from variants. 308 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,200 Right. 309 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400 That is that's Marvel. 310 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,040 That's DC. 311 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,840 That's boom studios. 312 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,560 That's image comics. 313 00:13:56,560 --> 00:13:57,680 They get all that money. 314 00:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,520 I think what distillery is trying to do is they're trying to put the money in the creator's hands. 315 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,760 So if Scott Snyder or Elsa Chardier create a new series, all the money that's made from 316 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400 these exclusives goes right to the creator. 317 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,760 It is going to be a situation where there's going to be a very limited variant or very 318 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,960 limited piece of merch. 319 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,520 That's fine. 320 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,840 As long as it's just the variant, as long as like, because I think the normal series 321 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,280 is going to be available. 322 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,520 Yeah. 323 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,560 Exclusive stuff. 324 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,040 Good. 325 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,920 Because that's what I'm saying. 326 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,880 That's what I was worried about because like I see what not stuff in my comic shop. 327 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:39,600 I see publishers that do limited access of variants in my comic shop, which I'm glad to see. 328 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,560 Those are publishing houses that still cater to the everyday person, to the everyday Joe. 329 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,840 What I don't want is a limitation on the entire supply. 330 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,160 Right. 331 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,040 Like a bad idea. 332 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,160 Have you heard a bad idea? 333 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,440 Yeah, that was a bad idea. 334 00:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,760 Now they're gone. 335 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,560 It was a bad idea. 336 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,440 I think that they are completely poking fun at the comic medium, making everything 337 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,400 extremely exclusive, no digital comics, like having zero access to their work. 338 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,440 Didn't they have like a completely like clear comic book? 339 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120 Yeah, they sold invisible comic. 340 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,600 Yeah. 341 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680 Then CGC created it because it's a gimmick. 342 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120 That's a it's a joke to them. 343 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,760 And I understand the impulse to like poke fun at the industry because it is some parts of it 344 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200 are very silly and like collecting in general is kind of a silly idea. 345 00:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800 As someone who's a giant collector of a lot of things, I tell you that it's just hoarding. 346 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,000 Clear your shoulder. 347 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,280 Exactly. 348 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,440 Everyone behind me, you can't see it, but I've got over 1200 graphic novels behind me, 349 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,280 plus statues and other things. 350 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640 So yeah, the idea is silly and bad ideas making fun of that. 351 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:43,360 I think the story will give fans the option to buy more exclusive things and the creators 352 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,400 will get all of it. 353 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,280 But the worry, as always, like you said, is scalpers, bots, people that are going to buy 354 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760 this stuff strictly to sell it in the aftermarket will have access to this stuff and the real 355 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,960 fans will have none of it. 356 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,200 Again, because like I when I was at Megacon in Orlando, like I got in line, luckily, 357 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,040 with enough time to buy some of the fan expo exclusive variants for Megacon. 358 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,360 Yeah. 359 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:12,320 And when I was in line, all I saw was just guys coming back and grabbing more like just 360 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400 stacks of the exclusives. 361 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640 And like within an hour, they were all gone. 362 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,760 And it's like, I know people that were trying to go for those and it's just, it sucks because, 363 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,560 and then I find out from the guy who was managing the convention that the people selling the comics 364 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040 were only supposed to let people buy one each. 365 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,680 Yeah. 366 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,080 And it's like, you need to make sure that your staff knows this before you put them in charge, 367 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320 because it clearly wasn't happening. 368 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,800 Collecting is a dirty game, especially exclusives like con convention exclusives and things 369 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,200 like that. 370 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400 Like if you know the right people and you're and you're getting a little something, something 371 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920 on the side, you know, being at these conventions, I can tell you, I've seen a lot of gross stuff 372 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600 and it's unfortunately a part of it. 373 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,000 But, you know, you just hopefully as a fan, you were able to just gain access to some of 374 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,400 that stuff. 375 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,320 So, yeah, let's go. 376 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160 Yeah, let's go ahead and get to our next piece of news here. 377 00:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,400 Yeah. 378 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560 So Netflix is reportedly developing. 379 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,560 Fuck this news, man. 380 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,840 An American remake of Squid Game. 381 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:06,800 Yeah. 382 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,000 Why? 383 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,280 I honestly don't even want to read. 384 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,440 Okay. 385 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200 So my reaction was the same thing because it's like why oversaturate something that 386 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,960 is already like extremely popular. 387 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760 But the news does kind of make sense. 388 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080 Let's get into this and let's see how you feel after we talk about a little bit. 389 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,520 So Squid Game was one of the biggest shows that Netflix obviously has ever released. 390 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,240 It was huge. 391 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,600 Mass streamed all time. 392 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,400 Most streamed. 393 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,960 And with season two in the works with creator, 394 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,040 Xiang Ji Hong, the series hasn't really been in the news recently. 395 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,760 Jeff Snyder's The Hot Mic podcast revealed last week that Netflix is in the process 396 00:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,320 of developing a remake of Squid Game and they want David Fincher to produce the series. 397 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480 Rumor has it that the series would not be a direct remake, but instead a new series of 398 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,960 Squid Games, but just set in America in the same universe. 399 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,880 Netflix has not confirmed that this American remake is in the works. 400 00:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,400 I swear to God, like I hope this is a fucking lie because I'm so I think I'm cursing more 401 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,320 this episode and then we've ever done before. 402 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,000 So I apologize if this is offending anybody. 403 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,960 I'll try and stop. 404 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,320 I hope this is not the case only because like I am very tired of them. 405 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360 This is basically them whitewashing a series. 406 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,320 But I mean, let's be honest, they're taking an idea from from somewhere else in the world 407 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,320 and and just basically catering and pandering to white America. 408 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240 And obviously in this case, it didn't matter. 409 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,200 It wasn't. 410 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,240 It's not needed. 411 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,240 It's the most stream show ever. 412 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 That means the original was fine. 413 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760 If it was unknown, like there's a movie. 414 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040 I want to say it's Japanese. 415 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,320 It's called Oldboy and Josh Brolin starred in the American remake. 416 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,920 I never saw the American remake, but I know that there was some insane twists in the 417 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,480 original that I feel like they probably couldn't have done. 418 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,640 And if they did do it in the in the remake, good for them. 419 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200 But again, that was unnecessary. 420 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,880 Like there are certain things that are just so unnecessary. 421 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,920 Isn't that what generally happens to with these remakes is they always dull it down 422 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,400 a little bit. 423 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,120 They temper a lot of what makes it so special. 424 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,400 Like my my reaction, my first thought is always ghosts in a shell. 425 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,280 Why? 426 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,960 Why did we do this? 427 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080 Why did we need a live action American version of that? 428 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,800 So that actually, I mean, to be honest, like that wasn't necessarily an American version. 429 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,240 I mean, it was just OK. 430 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280 Let me let me explain something to a lot of people that were really upset about Ghost 431 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,080 in the Shell. 432 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,680 Ghost in the Shell did not whitewash major Ghost in the Shell, the original anime made 433 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,840 her culturally ambiguous because she was a cyborg. 434 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520 She was not Japanese when she had the robot body. 435 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,280 OK, you're not going to replace a soldier's destroyed body and make them a super secret 436 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,400 robot cyborg agent and give them the same body. 437 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,000 So all the people that were upset about the Ghost in the Shell movie with Scarlett Johansson, 438 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,920 go check your facts. 439 00:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,120 OK, go touch some grass. 440 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,480 I'm just saying. 441 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280 But like I do understand that it's horrible. 442 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,400 I'm just saying they did. 443 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,360 They did dull it down. 444 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,600 I will say like that, but it was still I mean, it was still cool. 445 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,200 But that was one of those that was one of those movies that they completely overshadowed 446 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,520 with a quote unquote racist agenda because they made an American woman star of a Japanese 447 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,240 anime. 448 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,560 Sure. 449 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Like remake or I guess or adaptation. 450 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,320 So well, just to kind of get back to this good games, too, like I'm like when I first like 451 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160 I said, when I saw the headline, I was like, OK, why? 452 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,560 Why? 453 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,000 We haven't even gotten a season two yet. 454 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920 Season one just came out last year. 455 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480 So why are we going back to the well immediately? 456 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,920 Netflix, what are we doing here? 457 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,280 We're not out of ideas yet, right? 458 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,720 We can't be out of ideas. 459 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600 But when it says here that it's not a direct remake, it's instead it's a separate squid 460 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,840 games just set in America in the same universe. 461 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440 That kind of changed things slightly for me. 462 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680 I'm not like excited about it, but it does a little bit. 463 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,520 But I swear to God, if Mr. Beast is in this, I'm going to be fucking upset. 464 00:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,640 Got some tick talkers in there. 465 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880 We got, you know, Haley Bieber. 466 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800 They probably I'm not joking. 467 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,760 They probably will. 468 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,000 They probably will take the contestants and it'll be like influence. 469 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840 So it'll be influencers. 470 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,240 Yeah. 471 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,880 But can you imagine Jack Black playing, you know, red light, green light? 472 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,600 I'm OK. 473 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,880 I would be OK with Jack Black. 474 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920 I'm part of a generation. 475 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000 And so are you of the Jack Black and as many things as you can. 476 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,880 But don't go. 477 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,680 But just don't kill him. 478 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,400 Why would you kill him? 479 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,520 That's silly. 480 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760 But yeah, now, like I said, I'm on the fence about this a little bit, but I'm well. 481 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520 If it ends up becoming true, I'm interested just to kind of see what if it's David Fincher, 482 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320 Aaron, you know that David Fincher is my favorite director of all time. 483 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880 So if David Fincher is involved, I'm in. 484 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080 Like you have my money. 485 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080 I mean, Netflix already has my money every month. 486 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480 But like I'm going to see this if David Fincher is involved. 487 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,960 Yeah. 488 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,520 Yeah. 489 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,640 I'm still going to watch it. 490 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,720 I'm not going to like I'm not going to lie. 491 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,360 I'm not over. 492 00:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,120 Are we going to get a squid games universe? 493 00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,520 The squid squid verse is SGU. 494 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,020 Yeah. 495 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,480 All right. 496 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,840 Let's get into our last bit of news here. 497 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,120 We got our first trailer for Marvel Studios, the Marvels. 498 00:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,960 So it's been a while since we've seen Captain Marvel, 499 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,280 a.k.a. 500 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,880 Carol Danvers on the big screen. 501 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Her last cinematic experience was at the end credit scenes of Shang 502 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, although we did also see her in the 503 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200 final episode of Disney Plus's Miss Marvel. 504 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160 Since then, Captain Marvel's the Captain Marvel story has gotten a lot bigger 505 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120 outside of the main films with one division introducing us to a grown up 506 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,560 version of Monica Rambeau getting her powers, getting her own powers. 507 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,880 We also recently met Captain Marvel super fan Kamala Khan, who also became a 508 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160 hero herself in the Miss Marvel Disney Plus series. 509 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,400 Now, all three of these beloved characters will be uniting for the Marvels, 510 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,880 the official sequel to 2019's Captain Marvel, 511 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,920 which will see these three heroes team up to stop a new cosmic threat. 512 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,640 Are we a team? 513 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Come on, like I'm in Volanias, come on, like on is still I love her. 514 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320 Like I don't think we ever reviewed Miss Marvel here on the show. 515 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,800 I don't think so. 516 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,480 I think it's probably top one or two favorite Disney Plus shows thus far. 517 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,280 Like it's it's probably Loki, She-Hulk, then Miss Marvel for me in terms of my 518 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,160 favorite Disney pluses. 519 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440 I know that's kind of a hot take ish kind of, you know, take right there. 520 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,880 But I love all three of those shows so much. 521 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160 So yeah, I'm going to go. 522 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,360 I'm going to go Loki, She-Hulk, Hawkeye. 523 00:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,320 OK, yeah. 524 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520 So if everyone goes back and listens to our episode with Sal from Comic Pop 525 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960 talking about phase four of the MCU, he actually had Hawkeye quite pretty high 526 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520 on his list, too. 527 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280 I want to say it was like number two or three on his list. 528 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,160 So I get it. 529 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960 You know, I'm just not really like I liked it, but I didn't love it as much as 530 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,440 most people. 531 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480 So I just can't stand a like I can't give Miss Marvel like a higher rating 532 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,160 in my in my level of greatness because I cannot stand a series that does not 533 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,200 have a villain. 534 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,840 Yeah. 535 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,880 And this one did not. 536 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680 Well, quickly, what would you give Miss Marvel out of five David A. 537 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,160 Winers? 538 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,840 Just since we didn't cover it here on the show. 539 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,560 A three. 540 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,120 You give it a three. 541 00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,720 Yeah, I was going to give it a three point five. 542 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,160 Like it's pretty good. 543 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760 It's like Loki is probably a four. 544 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,320 She-Hulk's probably like a three point five. 545 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080 Miss Marvel's probably like a three point five for me. 546 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,880 Well, if you go back and listen to our she-hulk for you, because we did 547 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280 review that here on the show, I think I actually did give it a three point five. 548 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,480 So I should have given it a five. 549 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,040 But I'm kidding for different reasons. 550 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080 So in the trailer here, we keep seeing the three heroes power swapping. 551 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,280 You know what's going on here. 552 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,680 We actually saw that in the Miss Marvel series as well. 553 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,360 When Kamala uses her powers, all of a sudden, Carol Danvers burst into her 554 00:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,320 closet and wakes up. 555 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,520 It's like, what the hell is going on? 556 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,440 Which I think we actually see in this trailer as well. 557 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440 So we also see the return of Nick Fury, who will be fresh off the events of the 558 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280 Disney Plus series Secret Invasion and the events that go into the events of 559 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,760 this movie. 560 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,280 So Parasite Star. 561 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,320 I'm going to say this wrong here. 562 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Park Seo Jung. 563 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,880 Is that right? 564 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,160 June. 565 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,960 June. 566 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120 Yeah, I love Parasite, but I don't know if I said that correctly. 567 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,360 Whose mysterious character still remains just that can be seen leading a group of 568 00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,120 warriors into a potentially big battle, followed by a followed by a hoard of 569 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,040 what could be dozens of flirtkins, which is what Goose is in the show. 570 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080 Excuse me, in the movie, in the first movie, we do have a bit more info 571 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600 regarding the film's potential big bad being played by a velvet bussoles. 572 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880 I'm going to say this wrong again, too. 573 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,160 Zowie Ashton. 574 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000 That's not about right. 575 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Okay, we've known that Ashton could be playing a villain in the film following 576 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000 her casting announcement, but her appearance in the trailer indicates that 577 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320 she has connection with a classic MCU big bad. 578 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840 In the first brief scene, we see Ashton still unnamed character wielding a 579 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,840 hammer, which, as we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, is called the Cosmo Rod. 580 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200 It looks remarkably close to the same hammer that's wielded by Ronan the 581 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720 Accuser, played by Lee Pace, who also showed up in the first Captain Marvel 582 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680 movie briefly and, you know, of course, is the main villain of the first 583 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000 Guardians of the Galaxy film with the Power Stone. 584 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,320 So the Marvels, of course, will be releasing in theaters on November 10th, 2023. 585 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,600 Aaron, when this late again, when you excuse me, when this was first 586 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240 premiered, you actually texted me and said you thought this looked pretty good. 587 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,960 Do you stand by this? 588 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,160 Do you still think it looks pretty good? 589 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,800 Yeah, I do. 590 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,440 I'm I'm fairly excited for this, which I did not expect. 591 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240 Yeah, you're a notorious hater of the first movie. 592 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,280 I'm not saying you're a hater. 593 00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,440 I'm just saying you don't like the first movie, right? 594 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,640 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 595 00:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,440 I'll go with that. 596 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640 He is not a hater, everybody. 597 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160 He likes powerful women. 598 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,680 Okay. He is not an incel. 599 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,040 He just didn't like the movie. 600 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680 All right. 601 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,240 I gave very specific reasons for not liking Captain Marvel. 602 00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,200 Okay. It was it felt like, again, Captain Marvel felt like it was an 603 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760 afterthought when it came to the MCU. 604 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,000 Yeah. 605 00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080 Smushed between Infinity War and Endgame. 606 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,240 Yeah. 607 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,480 Yeah. 608 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280 It's like we had to figure out who Captain Marvel was before she showed up. 609 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040 Oh, shit, we forgot to do a Captain Marvel movie. 610 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480 Yeah, this was definitely like a phase two movie that came out in phase. 611 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,880 Yeah. 612 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,600 So had it been released earlier, probably would have enjoyed it a bit more, but we didn't get it. 613 00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200 So yeah, I'm excited for this. 614 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,160 A, I love Kamala Khan. 615 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,400 I love I love Milani. 616 00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,360 Is there what I'm in? 617 00:26:41,360 --> 00:26:41,760 Milani. 618 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Yeah, I am in. 619 00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:50,480 I love what she's she for some reason like her her genuineness when it comes to being a super fan 620 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,040 of Captain Marvel and then the seriousness of Monica Rambeau. 621 00:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,200 I'm just I'm excited for the how they all kind of like interact and that they do need to team up. 622 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880 So there's like there is a lot to this. 623 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,960 The movie looks really cool, looks really action packed again with a with a return of Nick Fury 624 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600 after the Secret Wars like I just. 625 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,400 Invasion. 626 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760 So excuse me, Secret Invasion. 627 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,440 Secret Wars was who? 628 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,560 The Secret Wars is a lot. 629 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,760 We got a couple of years for Secret Wars. 630 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,800 Remember, that's the first. 631 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,400 That's the second movie. 632 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320 That's the second Avengers movie between after we get the King Dynasty, then it's Secret Wars. 633 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,720 Right. 634 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,760 So Secret Invasion. 635 00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800 I'm just excited to see how this plays out. 636 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,480 I really I want them to give more to Captain Marvel. 637 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,400 I want them to redeem what her character has already been put through 638 00:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,840 as far as the her reception into the MCU. 639 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600 So I am excited for that to go. 640 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,480 And Monica Rambeau, just I'm excited because of after seeing her on WandaVision. 641 00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,680 I think that she is and then also they had somebody else play 642 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,600 photon or Captain Marvel, like Captain Marvel, the black version, Captain Marvel in in. 643 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000 Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange. 644 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,720 Yeah, that's her mother. 645 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,960 Yeah. 646 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,920 So that's her Maria. 647 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160 Maria Rambeau is Captain Marvel in a separate universe. 648 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,480 Yeah. 649 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,800 Yeah. 650 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920 So like I just I'm excited for her to get her time as well. 651 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,640 It's I think it's going to be exciting. 652 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,400 So I am excited for this movie. 653 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040 So the thing that I'm most excited about with this movie is the 654 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080 the kind of the relationships between these three characters. 655 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,240 On one hand, you have Carol Danvers, who her relationship to Earth has not really 656 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480 been the same since the 90s when she left. 657 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,120 Right. 658 00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,160 She was from Earth. 659 00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280 But then the moment she got these powers, she essentially has been 660 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680 shipping around from planet to planet, helping wherever she can 661 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560 with not really a moment to breathe in between that and in game. 662 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,280 And even after that sense, then you have Monica Rambeau, who, of course, 663 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760 was very close to Carol when she was still on Earth. 664 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,240 But since Carol left and it's shown in one division that Monica is very jaded 665 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,120 towards Carol. 666 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880 She thinks that she abandoned her mother because Maria eventually passes away. 667 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,080 And where was Carol? 668 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,520 Carol, that's her best friend. 669 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600 That was, you know, her basically her surrogate mother or like her surrogate aunt, 670 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,800 whatever you want to call her. 671 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240 Carol met so much to Monica and Carol just left and never came back. 672 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640 And Monica is clearly upset with that. 673 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240 Again, it shows in one division. 674 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200 We're going to have some some dealings with that for sure. 675 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,240 Absolutely. 676 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,800 Then you have Kamala Khan, who reveres Captain Marvel so much like she thinks 677 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,720 she is just beyond everything. 678 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240 Like she's a she's a mega fan. 679 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080 She's a fanatic of Captain Marvel. 680 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,920 And what happens when you meet your your your hero sometimes, Aaron, you get let down. 681 00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320 Yeah, I mean, you're going to have and that's the thing is you have this almost 682 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,760 almost like I want to say, like no no Irish, like dark personality that like again, 683 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960 she is a hero for so many reasons. 684 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,040 But Captain Marvel has a chip on her shoulder, you know, and she's and I think smile. 685 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,520 Yeah. 686 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,160 All of that is all of the weight that she's been bearing with her powers and what she's 687 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,400 been responsible for out in the universe is going to show up in this. 688 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,080 And she is going to have to realize that she does have a little bit of a responsibility 689 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,160 for the Earth and her and her friends and family and what she is and who she represents 690 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,200 or what she represents. 691 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840 So there's going to be again, there's going to be what they say, you know, 692 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,360 some comeuppance when it comes to how she is received by these two counterparts. 693 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880 Yeah, I mean, we've all been there, right? 694 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600 We've all been lost in the sauce when it comes to life. 695 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,560 Things take precedence. 696 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,840 We have priorities in our heads. 697 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840 And right now, Earth is such a small priority to Carol. 698 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880 I mean, since but she needs to ground her. 699 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640 She needs to be grounded in that humanity. 700 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,520 And I think that's going to be a huge pivotal portion of this story is that she has lost 701 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080 her her her kind of like like like Dr. Manhattan. 702 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,680 Yeah, like his his like his tether to Earth and to humanity is gone. 703 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,080 And the only thing that's holding him there is still expect her. 704 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,400 And the moment that she eventually leaves, he's like, well, I'm going to Mars, bitch. 705 00:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,960 I'm out of here. 706 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440 I'm done. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting. 707 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520 I'm very excited for the Marvels. 708 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880 I'm glad that we're only getting is it two movies this year or three? 709 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720 We've got Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three. 710 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240 We've got the Marvels. 711 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480 And then is there anything else this year? 712 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,560 I don't think anything else. 713 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,120 No, I don't think so. 714 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280 I don't think there's any other movies, which is great. 715 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240 I'm very happy with that because yeah, because there's only three because we had 716 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum media earlier this year. 717 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240 So yeah, I think it's only three. 718 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,120 I'm very excited. 719 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,720 So that'll do it for our News and Notes. 720 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000 Once again, thank you to what not for sponsoring that News and Notes segment. 721 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,880 Truly appreciate it. 722 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120 Check out the show notes for that fifteen dollars. 723 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120 We're going to go and get into our review of Renfield before we do, though. 724 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200 We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back. 725 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Hey there, I'm Chris from the Geek Peek podcast here with my two co-hosts, Trent. 726 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,240 What up? 727 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,760 And Brandon. 728 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,640 Yo, yo, here at the Geek Peek, we strive to provide you the best content from all across 729 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,160 the pop culture multiverse. 730 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,200 Think of us as your content concierge seeking out all the best movies, TV, 731 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840 games and music to save your valuable time. 732 00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,440 We have a different adult beverage every week and we like to keep things light and fresh. 733 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,640 So coming out with us. 734 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,520 So check us out on all your favorite podcasting platforms. 735 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,480 That's Geek Peek. 736 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,920 Like a mountain. 737 00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:12,480 And check out our site at geekpeekpod.com. 738 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,000 Hey, everybody. 739 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,600 Our sponsor for today's episode is G Fuel, the official energy drink of e-sports. 740 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:30,960 Whether you're a casual gamer, a content creator, an everyday Joe or an e-sports pro, 741 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:34,960 G Fuel's sugar-free antioxidant and vitamin fortified focus enhancing 742 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,600 and high performance energy products will give you the edge you need to fuel your grind. 743 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:45,840 No sugar, no gluten, no crash, just natural clean vitamin energy that's available in over 40 744 00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,080 lip smacking flavors. 745 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:55,200 While stocking up at G Fuel.com use our code OBP at checkout for 10% off your entire order. 746 00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,320 That's OBP at checkout G Fuel performance energized. 747 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Main topic. 748 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,280 For episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, we're talking about Renfield. 749 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,800 Why don't you start by telling us what brought you here? 750 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,400 My boss, he's different. 751 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,080 You can't get him out of your head. 752 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:30,880 No. 753 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,320 I need your assistance. 754 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:33,440 I'm coming, master. 755 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:36,160 Oh, you feel like he could destroy you with the snap of his fingers. 756 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:38,320 Wouldn't even need to snap. 757 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,720 Okay. 758 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640 Oh, that sounds familiar. 759 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,120 Yeah, what? 760 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120 Renfield, bringing innocent victims. 761 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,960 I want a handful of nuns, a busload of cheerleaders. 762 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,520 And I just want a normal life again. 763 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:23,200 That this modern world is a dangerous place. 764 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,840 Thank you. 765 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,880 You saved my life. 766 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920 Did I watch you cut a guy with a decorative serving platter? 767 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,720 It's all in the wrist. 768 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,520 Let me explain. 769 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,760 My boss gave me this power. 770 00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320 In return, I tend to his needs, including care, feeding. 771 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,760 You bring in people to eat. 772 00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680 You're like the guy that gets the villains postmates. 773 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240 But if you were to stop focusing on his needs, what would happen? 774 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960 He won't grow to full power. 775 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Exactly. 776 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,520 He won't grow to full power. 777 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,400 What? 778 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,520 That's so weird. 779 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040 Why would you frame him as a villain? 780 00:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200 That's so weird. Why would you phrase it like that? 781 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,680 But yes. 782 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,920 Hi. 783 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,040 Are you here for the meeting? 784 00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,000 Well, come on. 785 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640 No! 786 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,140 No! 787 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,240 Some call me the Dark One. 788 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,560 Others, the Lord of Death. 789 00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,200 To most, I am Barak Yuna. 790 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,640 OK, obviously we're dealing with a little bit more than just narcissism here. 791 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600 Now, let's eat. 792 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120 All righty, here we are talking about Renfield Aaron. 793 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160 Spoilers ahead. 794 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,040 If you have not seen this brand new comedy, horror action, whatever this is, 795 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,480 please take a second. 796 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960 Pause this. 797 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,800 Yeah, go go watch the film and then come back. 798 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360 Wow, this is this is definitely this is an interesting movie. 799 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,880 And Aaron, we have not talked about this at all. 800 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560 We've pretty much saved everything until we've gotten to this review here. 801 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,680 You actually saw it yesterday. 802 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960 I saw it on Thursday night. 803 00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360 Initial thoughts, initial thoughts on Renfield. 804 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,480 It was long. 805 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,320 OK, all right. 806 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,600 So you thought it was actually really long. 807 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,080 Interesting. 808 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720 OK, so it just felt long to you or? 809 00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,000 It felt long to me. 810 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720 OK, you kind of dragged along a little bit. 811 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,880 I just think that there was like there were relationships that didn't need to be in it. 812 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,360 OK. 813 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,680 And those relationships trying to give give weight to some of the antics 814 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920 and some of the villains. 815 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400 Just it was to me, it really wasn't necessary. 816 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,040 So interesting. 817 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080 Are you think are you talking about Awkwafina and Nicholas Holt? 818 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,840 Yes. 819 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680 OK, because this movie is only 93 minutes long. 820 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,480 It's only an hour and a half. 821 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,760 It's not really it's actually. 822 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,560 Is it really? 823 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560 Yeah, it's about as long as most horror films. 824 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,200 Oh, my God. 825 00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480 That felt like, oh, my God, I was I'm not going to lie. 826 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080 OK, I do. 827 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,880 I fell asleep. 828 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,000 You did. 829 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,320 Wow. 830 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,960 Yeah. 831 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,600 Yeah. 832 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,400 How was your theater? 833 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,080 Was it was it packed or not really? 834 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,880 No, there's OK. 835 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,840 Six people in it. 836 00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440 We're going to talk about that here. 837 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400 Mine was actually not like completely empty. 838 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400 There was about 20 people in my in my showing, 839 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,560 but it was notoriously bomb worthy for Thursday. 840 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560 It only made nine hundred thousand dollars on Thursday. 841 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880 Oh, not great. 842 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,240 But not not good. 843 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080 But my initial thoughts is that I had fun with it. 844 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,320 I think it gave me kind of exactly what I wanted from this movie in a certain aspect. 845 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,520 There are issues, but this movie, I think almost from the opening scene, 846 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000 showed me that it did not take itself seriously. 847 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680 Therefore, I should either. 848 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,000 Right. 849 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,560 Like it is this is a this is a really fun just like we're in the spring, 850 00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840 but this kind of like feels like kind of like a fun summer movie that you just kind of 851 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080 will turn on when it's on streaming or something that you put on while you're cleaning. 852 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120 I know this is not a good endorsement for going to see the theater, everybody, 853 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200 but it is like I had a good time with it. 854 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,320 I will say that it's it is a bipolar film. 855 00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,800 Yes. 856 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,120 Yeah. 857 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200 It's there were moments where I was like, what? 858 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,600 And there's moments where I literally was asleep. 859 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760 You know, were you getting laughs in your theater? 860 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440 Were people laughing at the jokes? 861 00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,800 I laughed at some of them. 862 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,440 Yeah, I did, too. 863 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520 That's why I was curious because my crowd was actually kind of animated at certain parts. 864 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400 Like they were laughing, they were gasping, and there's like there's only 20 people. 865 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,440 But like, yeah, it was kind of like it was kind of a refreshing movie going experience 866 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520 with all these people who are like kind of into it. 867 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120 And I thought it was really fun. 868 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,200 OK, so I'm going to mention I'm going to talk about something like that in a few minutes 869 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640 because and I'll try and remember, I'll probably forget, but I won't. 870 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560 But let's go into the summary real quick. 871 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,960 All right. 872 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120 So Renfield, should I do it? 873 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000 Can you do it in like a vampiric voice? 874 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200 Like a oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 875 00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,880 Transylvanian voice. 876 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,280 You got to add in like some Transylvania music in the background. 877 00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,480 Yeah, some bad in the background. 878 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,980 Right. 879 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,400 Here we go. 880 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:46,000 Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's 881 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000 prey and do is every bidding. 882 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,800 However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow 883 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,320 of the Prince of Darkness. 884 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120 Aaron just tried to give an evil laugh and just kind of right in the throat. 885 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,640 Wow. 886 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,120 Yeah. 887 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640 I'm probably talking like this for the rest of the show. 888 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,840 So here's something interesting, Aaron, is that the screenplay was actually co-written 889 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,360 by Robert Kirkman, right? 890 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,080 Like, right. 891 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,320 Yeah. 892 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,480 Why? 893 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,080 I saw that at the end. 894 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,400 Why? 895 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,720 Yeah. 896 00:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,440 Watching the credits. 897 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,640 Did you see Robert Kirkman as well? 898 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,440 Robert Kirkman. 899 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,440 I was like, I was like looking around like anybody else see that? 900 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,680 No. 901 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,160 Yeah. 902 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,120 Does anyone else care? 903 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600 It's probably invincible guys walking dead. 904 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,720 That's going on here. 905 00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,120 But also Ryan Ridley as well, who was a writer on Rick and Morty. 906 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,720 Rick and Morty writers is like the new community college. 907 00:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,760 Like these writers for Rick and Morty, they do two years and they're off doing their real job. 908 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,720 Like all of them. 909 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,320 You've got them all over the internship as a writer at Rick and Morty. 910 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,440 Seriously, you get hired at like the Washington Post. 911 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Exactly. 912 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000 Like they literally graduate from Rick and Morty to whatever their actual aspirations are. 913 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,520 But the movie, the screenplay itself is very linear. 914 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,200 It's very simple, toxic relationships, how to deal with them, how to get out of them, 915 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,160 how to be okay. 916 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Enough. 917 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,280 Yeah, like I think it's worth saying that and we'll get into the cast here that Nicholas 918 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,640 Holt as Renfield plays a very like this is a very low hanging comparison, but like I zombie, 919 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680 kind of pathetic. 920 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640 You mean warm bodies? 921 00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,120 Maybe it was warm bodies. 922 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360 Yeah, just the zombie that's alive kind of. 923 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,560 That's what I was going to say. 924 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,720 Like Nicholas, like this to me, this movie was a lot like it was almost a spiritual sequel. 925 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,600 A spiritual sequel. 926 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,000 Thank you. 927 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360 Yes, to warm bodies. 928 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,840 And I'm just like, like I enjoyed that one more than this one. 929 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,480 Sure. 930 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,120 Okay. 931 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:45,040 Yeah, it just, it kind of felt like Renfield got over his toxic relationship with Count 932 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,640 Dracula because he had to. 933 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080 I don't think he really made the progressive steps that he really needed to, to eventually 934 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440 get out of relationships like that, like completely cutting someone off the way you're supposed 935 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,640 to in those relationships. 936 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,600 We've all been in those relationships where we are being taken advantage of, where the 937 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120 relationship is not benefiting us at all. It's only benefiting the person. 938 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,280 Why are you clearing your throat over there? 939 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680 What are you implying, Aaron? 940 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,400 I don't have a soundboard. 941 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Oh man. 942 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,840 Okay. 943 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400 If you want to say, is that going to cure our relationship? 944 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,720 I'm kidding. 945 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000 I gave you one for like an episode and a half. 946 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,800 What else do you want? 947 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,600 But, you know, that being said, clearly Nicholas Cage is far and away the best part of this 948 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,280 movie, whatever Nick Cage is generally selling, I'm buying and he each use up every single 949 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,360 scene he's in. He's the best part of this movie. Do you agree? 950 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560 Yes. And I'm going to give Ben Schwartz an easy second place to that. 951 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,360 Yeah. He's, it's John Ralphio meets like Scarface. 952 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:54,080 Like Ben Schwartz is literally, he's a walking embodiment of John Ralphio. 953 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,720 Yeah. 954 00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,680 And he plays it so well. 955 00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,400 I love it. 956 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,240 He's the doofus, the lovable doofus. 957 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,360 You know, it's like he threw some cocaine at the cops. 958 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,960 Okay. Actually that was the real scene whenever. 959 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,640 So they had the traffic stop with Awkwafina and Chris is the co-worker for. 960 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,080 Adrian Martinez. 961 00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,400 Yeah. 962 00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Yeah. And all of a sudden you see Ben Schwartz. 963 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,920 Anytime you see a movie in 2023 where cars have neon underneath their car, 964 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,200 that's a so a 2005 like Fast and Furious type of aesthetic. It's like they're not really, 965 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,640 it's like black, it's black SUVs and orange chargers with neon lights underneath their car. 966 00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,880 I immediately am like, they didn't even try. They are going straight to the well when it 967 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880 comes to cliches of gangsters. Right? 968 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920 Yeah. Honestly, like this was like a comic book, literally like a comic book turned into a movie 969 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560 because it was so stupid. Because like, if you looked at the side of the car, 970 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,880 did you look at the vinyl wrap that was on the car? 971 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600 No, I did not. 972 00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:57,280 It was a lion snorting a line of cocaine. Like, it's like a racing stripe that turns into a powder 973 00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,360 like dots. And then it's the lion is snorting it. Like that shit was funny. 974 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,960 Yeah. That aligns. Right. Like that tracks. And even at one point you have. 975 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080 I have a prescription. 976 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400 Yeah. Again, the best part about this movie, everyone, if you're listening, 977 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,640 before you watch the movie, we will say that the actors are doing all that they can. 978 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,680 I think everyone outside of Aquafina for me really like makes this worth it, even down to 979 00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,440 some of the really small supporting characters. Like again, I keep saying it, but we're going to 980 00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600 get into the cast here in a moment. Mark, the support group leader, he is surprisingly very 981 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240 refreshing in this. Yes. Yes. Mark and Bob. 982 00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,080 Yeah. And Bob as well. Yeah. 983 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,240 So director Chris McKay, director of seasons three through five of Robot Chicken and the Lego 984 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680 Batman movie, which I don't know if you've seen Chris is pretty good. Yeah, it's awesome. 985 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,560 McKay also wrote the recent Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves, which has been doing 986 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,320 surprisingly well in theaters. Also, you remember before the year we were talking about 987 00:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,960 honor among thieves is like, why are they doing this? This looks terrible. What's going on? 988 00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,240 And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, like we never even thought that it could do this is that 989 00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,960 it's like it's kind of the surprise hit of the year. It's like this and Megan are the two movies 990 00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560 that we were like kind of completely writing off and now they're doing extremely well. 991 00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,400 And I've seen neither of those. So Megan's good. I want to see. I'm going to eventually 992 00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,360 see honor among thieves. But yeah, Megan is good. I would recommend it. So Chris McKay claimed that 993 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:31,040 this film is a direct sequel to Dracula in 1931. Yeah. Yeah. Which is funny because again, this 994 00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200 movie opens up into like a straight up like black and white. I'm not open. It has like a like a mini 995 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480 opening and then it has its true opening where it's kind of like it's delve into its own history, 996 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,880 where it's like this black and white real like footage of Renfield and Dracula kind of through 997 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,680 the ages. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting the way that necessary. Funny. But like a funny bit. 998 00:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,360 It was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit. Yeah. No. And I think those were actually scenes from that 999 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,000 movie from the 1931 Dracula. So they just basically CGI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to do the 1000 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,440 cast or do you want to go and get into the cast? We've already talked about quite a few of these 1001 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,960 majority of just for the layman. Yeah. All right. So obviously Nicholas Cage is Count Dracula. He 1002 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,320 and he did amazing. Nicholas Holt as R.M. Renfield, Robert Montague, Renfield, Awkwafina as Officer 1003 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:34,240 Rebecca Quincy, Ben Schwartz as Tedward, Tedward, Choro Agdachalu as Bella Francesca, Adrian 1004 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,040 Martinez as Chris, Officer Quincy's coworker and Brandon Scott Jones as Mark, who is the support 1005 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760 group leader. An enormous fan of Dracula in the original source material, Nick Cage prepared for 1006 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,040 this role by observing the distinctive ways Dracula was portrayed on screen by Bella Lugosi, 1007 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:55,920 Frank Langalla. So Bella Lugosi was 1931's Dracula, Frank Langalla, 1979's John Bradham's Dracula, 1008 00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400 excuse me. And then Gary Oldman from 92's Bram Stoker's Dracula, which everybody hails as, you 1009 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,480 know, the ultimate. Cage also mentioned an American werewolf in London from 1981, The Ring in 98 and 1010 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,800 Malignant, which we all have seen in 2021 as inspirations for this role. So Nick Cage being 1011 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,280 the the the just straight up weirdo and amazing man that he is really chose the greatest source 1012 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,680 materials. And I'll say it, I loved it, but I know it wasn't well received. But Dracula Untold was 1013 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,520 another, in my opinion, a great Dracula movie. If you've seen it, Chris, let me know. I actually 1014 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,360 have not seen it now. I actually. So Dracula Untold was kind of the origin of Dracula, but not saying 1015 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,480 that he was the original vampire. Sure. But but a very cool movie. And yeah, I mean, so like but he 1016 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,960 didn't include that as one of his source materials. I thought that was kind of interesting. Have you 1017 00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,840 seen Vampire's Kiss from 1988? No. Have you ever seen Vampire's Vampire in Brooklyn? No, I have not. 1018 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,320 But the reason why I asked about Vampire's Kiss is because see, there's another divert right there 1019 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,520 and just try to do everybody. Do you see that everybody listening? Guilty. Guilty as charged. 1020 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:16,080 Yeah, got me. Vampire's Kiss is a movie from 88 that was that stars Nicolas Cage, and he essentially 1021 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,600 believes that he is turning into a vampire. And it's really interesting because it was kind of it's 1022 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,320 one of those movies that like it's kind of like a dark comedy, like there's horror elements to it, 1023 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,520 but it's also mostly a comedy. It's gained quite a cult following here recently because it was 1024 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,080 completely trashed back in the day. Like people were not taking it seriously. But as most things 1025 00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720 with Nicolas Cage, it has gained a cult following as time has gone on and have kind of viewed it 1026 00:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,800 in a different lens because it is Nick Cage turned up to 11. You've probably even seen a lot of memes 1027 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,280 and gifs from that movie and didn't even realize it. Like there's one where he like lowers his head 1028 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,560 and points to the sky in a desk chair. That's Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss. Oh, interesting. 1029 00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200 Every other secretary who's been here has been here longer than you, Elva. 1030 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,720 Everyone. And even if there was someone here who was here just one day longer than you, 1031 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,160 I still wouldn't ask that person to partake in such a miserable job as long as you were around. 1032 00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:21,520 That's right, Elva. It's a horrible, horrible job sifting through old contract after old contract. 1033 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,960 I couldn't think of a more horrible job if I wanted to. And you have to do it. You have to, 1034 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:36,320 you have to or I'll fire you. Do you understand? Do you? I'll tell you, the thing that I really 1035 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,720 love about Nick Cage's interpretation of Dracula in this movie, again, while extremely campy and 1036 00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:49,200 while very, very like turned up to 11, his movement and the way that like his body acting 1037 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160 is very, very good. I think that adds a lot to it. And you went over some of the inspirations 1038 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,880 of like the ring or Malignant. Those movies are very, very kind of like the central idea of them is 1039 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200 kind of like a horrific kind of movement. Like think of the girl in the ring that is like her 1040 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,280 leg that comes over her shoulder as she's climbing out of the TV, like that kind of thing. With this 1041 00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,240 movie, you have a lot of like the way Nick Cage when he's approaching someone, he always walks up 1042 00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,480 really slowly. But the things he does with his hands and the way he turns his shoulders and the 1043 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,840 way he moves around you in circles is almost like he's stalking you. They're very predator to prey. 1044 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,360 Yes, absolutely. And everyone knows the age old like Dracula can't go anywhere without being 1045 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,560 invited. They even talk about that. Like he has to you have to physically invite him to go to go to 1046 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:39,120 places. And I think what this movie does is it gives Nicolas Cage the charisma for people to like 1047 00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,240 almost weirdly inherently trust him. Yeah, but they shouldn't because he doesn't he doesn't hide his 1048 00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,360 extremely sharp teeth in this movie or his pale skin or his giant top hat and cape. Like he is 1049 00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:58,880 very, very much like the prototypical vampire. But like he preys on the fact that we are that humans 1050 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,680 are idiots. Yes. And that we do everything to like to like we're we're pleasers. OK, and we would 1051 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,440 rather die than like then judge someone to the point where we know that they're a danger to us. 1052 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,240 But we're like, yeah, we don't want to be rude. Was the Renfields, you know, welcome, come in 1053 00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,520 mad. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, there was. And so like that allowed that was an invitation 1054 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,160 because he put it out there. And then and then the group leader who's just like, oh, come on into 1055 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,800 the group. You know, that I love those subtle, subtle ways that they included the lore into the 1056 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,920 screenplay. Exactly, exactly. So there I was going to say because like there's a couple of movies 1057 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,880 that are just really fucking terrible that are funny, though, because of how terrible they are. 1058 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,920 But Jim Carrey did a vampire movie quite a few years ago called Once Bitten. And it's 1059 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,880 actually one of my favorite vampire movies ever. And it's basically he is trying to get laid. 1060 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,320 And and he's basically he's like he's like a teenage guy. You know, he's trying to get laid 1061 00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,560 and he ends up like dating semi kind of dating this vampire and she bites him once, but she has 1062 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,800 to bite him like one more time before like some like full moon or something before he becomes 1063 00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,480 like a full vampire. And so it's him like going through the process, but still trying to like 1064 00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,320 maintain being like human, like having to maintain his humanity, but also trying to like get his 1065 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,600 girlfriend back. So it's like one of those teenage like dating, like angsty, but like 80s, 1066 00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,320 like funny comedies. Yeah. Nineteen five. I'm looking at right now. Yeah. That's another one. 1067 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,280 And so I highly recommend that one if you like just funny comedy like vampire films. Another one 1068 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,840 is Vampire in Brooklyn, which is Eddie Murphy is Dracula. OK, yeah. 1069 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,640 So vampires are such an easy like you can use and Robert Kirkwood is known for this. A lot of 1070 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,440 times what he does is he tells stories through vehicles of a not a cliche. What's the word I'm 1071 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680 looking for? Like The Walking Dead is a zombie story. But in reality, what makes The Walking 1072 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,960 Dead scary is not the zombies. It's the people. Right. Yeah. Invincible is a superhero story, 1073 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,000 but it's a story about relationships. It's a story about parents. They're metaphorical. 1074 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,360 Yeah. A lot of he uses like stereotypes, I guess, as a way of putting it as a vehicle. And this is 1075 00:52:13,360 --> 00:52:19,920 a vampire story. Yes. But it's more about codependency and toxic, toxic relationships 1076 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,120 more than anything else. But I think that's also it's like, you know, what do you call it? So 1077 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,360 Dracula also. So Nick Cage's character is also kind of I can't think of that. I'm having trouble 1078 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,560 thinking of the word, but he's almost I'm not sure what the word is, but he's he has his own like 1079 00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,240 these these blinders on. He almost has this like filter over his eyes where he doesn't see himself 1080 00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,640 as the problem. He's a narcissist. Yeah. Yeah. He's a narcissist, but he also has this like the 1081 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,320 the lenses that he's looking at the world and that he's looking at his relationship is is more than 1082 00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,520 just narcissism because he's blinded. I mean, he is blinded by his narcissism. Yes. But there's 1083 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,720 like more to it than that. But I just I think that when they're talking about what you said earlier 1084 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,280 when we first started talking about this and how they didn't really address his his healing, his 1085 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,400 arc as far as character development, I mean, Renfield, I appreciate that they made the movie 1086 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:22,240 about toxic relationships and it being a hindrance on humanity. But I also would have liked them to 1087 00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:29,280 maybe do do a little bit more with, yes, his kind of healing because they have the moment where 1088 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,640 they're in the apartment together. But the next time that we see Dracula and Renfield together 1089 00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000 is at the end when they're fighting each other. And I guess that's kind of his moment to kind of 1090 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,880 overcome all this. But it all felt felt more like he was trying to save Aquafina and less about him 1091 00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,320 trying to overcome this relationship and finally get out from underneath Dracula. Exactly. So to 1092 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,800 me, it felt like he was going from one relationship of codependency to almost another. Yeah. And 1093 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,840 that's what happens in relationships is that exactly these people do not get over codependency. 1094 00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,720 They just shift that codependency onto someone else. Yes. That's not good either. So let's move 1095 00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,720 on here to the budget. Sixty five million dollars. And I will say this movie obviously didn't cost 1096 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,480 very much money. I mean, last week we talked about Super Mario Bros and that cost one hundred million 1097 00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,960 dollars to make. So, you know, on one hand, I think, yes, thirty of that went to Nicolas Cage. 1098 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,800 Right. Exactly. Like there are parts of this movie that look really good. Like when Dracula is healing, 1099 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,080 I love all that practical stuff with the way he looks at the beginning of the film compared to 1100 00:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,240 what he looks like as he slowly starts to regain some of his powers. But the CGI blood is absolutely 1101 00:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,680 horrific to the point where it's like it almost looks like an anime where like you cut someone's 1102 00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,440 head off or you rip someone's arm off and it like spews out like a geyser. Like, but nobody's bloody. 1103 00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,000 But no one's bloody. Yeah. Like even like at one point there's a there's a scene where you have 1104 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,720 Aquafina and Renfield basically going up against both the police force of New Orleans and Ted Word 1105 00:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,800 and Bella Francisca's crew, whatever. And you've got people getting their arms ripped off and like 1106 00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,880 heads blown off and like all these things. And at the end of it, you've got Aquafina and Renfield 1107 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,560 who are completely clean. They don't have any blood on them at all. Where he like drop kicks 1108 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:19,840 some dude in half over a railing and like blood is just like and he's like, OK, let's go get coffee. 1109 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,720 Yeah. Anyway, we'll get some coffee while we will be game plan. But so in the United and this is what 1110 00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,400 we're kind of talking about earlier, Aaron, in terms of like I wanted to ask you how big 1111 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,480 like the showing was for your for this for this movie in the United States and Canada. 1112 00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,080 Renfield was projected to only earn about eight to ten million dollars around in around three 1113 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080 thousand three hundred seventy five theaters in its opening weekend. Eight to ten million is not a 1114 00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,880 lot of money. That's still probably finishing third or fourth at the box office. That's like a very 1115 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,320 you know, it's a very modest projection. Right. As of this recording, which is April 15th, Saturday. 1116 00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,280 So we don't have the complete weekend projection. Renfield has only earned one point four million 1117 00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,920 dollars at the box office. So in three days, it's only earned a million dollars. That is not great. 1118 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,840 Not great. Meanwhile, the Super Mario Bros. leads the pack with one hundred and forty six point 1119 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,160 four million dollars in the second weekend. So and it's surpassed around five hundred million 1120 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,120 dollars already. So it'll probably be around six hundred and fifty million. So basically what we're 1121 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,800 saying is that Super Mario Bros, John Wick four and the exorcist, the exorcist pope or something, 1122 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,960 whatever that that horror film that it's going up against, these movies are all destroying 1123 00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,760 Renfield right now. That was kind of our internal debate here. This little peek behind the curtain, 1124 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,240 little inside baseball for everybody at home. Aaron and I were like, yeah, I mean, we're excited 1125 00:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,080 about this movie, but do we really want to cover on the show? Because who else is excited about 1126 00:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,080 this movie? Are we talking about a movie that no one else is seeing? And the answer is yes, 1127 00:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880 no one else has seen this movie. So if you're listening this right now and you haven't seen 1128 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,360 Renfield, that's OK. I guess you're not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. The majority of people 1129 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:57,840 in the world also have not seen Renfield. Yeah, we're the one percent here. Seriously. So I think 1130 00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,960 we've covered this movie pretty in depth. I mean, at the end of the day, we have, you know, Renfield 1131 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,120 and Awkwafina, who I got to talk about Awkwafina's characters a little. Yeah, let's you talk about it 1132 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,600 I think I kind of align with you as well. I didn't I didn't really love this movie. So it was a 1133 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:20,160 completely unnecessary portion of the storyline to have to add in the whole like, well, they think 1134 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,760 about the hump. Will they won't they? Well, they will. They won't. They the mob killing her father, 1135 00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,000 her sister being in the FBI, like they could have done it without so much of this. And it just felt 1136 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,920 like it was like they had to give her like an important storyline. I don't know. It just felt 1137 00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,880 so stupid and shoehorned in there and also like it dragged the story. And that's what like really 1138 00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,640 would be to a screeching halt every time you went back to. Yeah. Like you said, her sister, 1139 00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,280 her dad or anything with Awkwafina at all. I would be like, God, come on. Whenever she is on screen, 1140 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,160 she walks around like she has scoliosis. Like, do you ever notice like she's like, 1141 00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920 she has like kind of like a humpback a little bit. Yeah. It's like a critique on her. Yeah. 1142 00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,360 But like Awkwafina is Awkwafina in every movie. That's who she is. Exactly. She's Will Smith. 1143 00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,400 She's the rock. There are certain people when they go in, when they're in a movie, they Jamie Foxx, 1144 00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,600 like, well, that feels kind of gross right now because Jamie Foxx actually just had a stroke. 1145 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,360 I don't know if you heard that, but generally when when these people are in a movie, they are 1146 00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,760 just playing a version of themselves. Right. So that's Awkwafina in this movie. Yeah. And 1147 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,360 that's what was bothering me about it was because I just could not take her seriously. Like I can't 1148 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:35,360 take her serious. I can't take her as a this is not a hit on her being a female actress or anything. 1149 00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,720 I think that she has moments where she is a very powerful actress. And that's when she is 1150 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,720 playing a confident role. Shang-Chi was a perfect example when she got into her own and she was in 1151 00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,640 that that, you know, the alternate dimension in that in that city, like she was walking around, 1152 00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800 she was confident, she was shooting bows and arrows. She was proud of herself. That was awesome. But 1153 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,320 then they put her in a role like this, where she is like, I don't know, she just feels like she's 1154 00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,880 like a beat down character. And she just walk around with her like, you know, bad posture. And 1155 00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,880 she's like trying to be like her aggro character. And to me, it just doesn't fit into what she 1156 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:17,440 could be. Right. And so that's that is my, my, my critique for her character is that I feel like 1157 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:24,240 she could have been a more mature, better, like she could have been the the badass cop. They should 1158 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,400 have just given her a smaller role. But at this time, when this movie was initially coming out, 1159 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,600 I think this was announced and kind of just started to peak and going to production was around COVID. 1160 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,360 So Awkwafina was she had just got cast in Shang-Chi. Nora from Queens was very big. So like 1161 00:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,520 Awkwafina was starting to rise and they wanted to give her something to do in this movie. But 1162 00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960 honestly, they should have just lessened her role and put Nicholas Cage should have been on screen 1163 00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,360 more. He has a lot to do in this movie, as does Nicholas Holt. But more of those two would have 1164 00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:59,760 been fine with me. And then Shura Agdachlu as Bella Francesca, I was just completely like thrown off 1165 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,720 every time she spoke. I mean, I understand that she has to be like this very overbearing, like 1166 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,920 evil woman, but she has like this, I am the mother. Bring them to me. Bring them to me. 1167 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280 Can't do that voice very much often. Yeah. But just like she has that deep grumbling voice. And 1168 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,520 like, to be honest, it would have been kind of cool if we would have found out when they saw each 1169 01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040 other that they were like long lost lovers or something. Yeah. Like she was a vampire this 1170 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,200 whole time as well. Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like, like that's something that I kind of expected 1171 01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,280 when they first saw each other. Like she had that, they had this like interesting like look that they 1172 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,760 shared when they first met. So I was like, I was kind of excited about that. And what if Dracula was 1173 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,640 the father of Ted? Oh my God, how that would have been fucking awesome. Yeah, that would have been 1174 01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160 great. Like there was so much that could put us in Hollywood guys. We can come up with good ideas. 1175 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680 There were so many good things that could have been done with this. And I just feel like a lot of 1176 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,200 it fell flat because they were trying to add in that route that like you said, like that, that 1177 01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,280 Aquafina that will they won't they type situation. So yeah, that's, that's my critique. Yeah. Let's 1178 01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,720 go and get some fun facts here. So Captain Nemo, Superman and Dracula are three roles that Nicholas 1179 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,040 Cage has dreamt about playing since he started his acting career. He actually got to voice Superman 1180 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,400 and Teen Titans go that goes to the movies in 2018. Obviously he plays Dracula here. We also know 1181 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,280 that Nicholas Cage was going to play Superman at one point in the Justice League movie that didn't 1182 01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,720 end up happening, but that's okay. We have Renfield syndrome, which is also known as clinical 1183 01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,000 vampirism, a rare psychiatric disorder where an individual has an intense fascination with drinking 1184 01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,560 blood and believing themselves to be a vampire. This syndrome is of course named after the character 1185 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,240 R.M. Renfield from Brandon Stoker's novel Dracula, who consumed live insects to obtain their life 1186 01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,360 force. We see that in this movie where in order for Renfield to get his powers, he has to consume 1187 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,120 life. And instead of consuming a human, which I kind of would have, I thought it would have been 1188 01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,080 really cool. At one point he just consumed like a bad guy and it just turned him into a super saiyan. 1189 01:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,800 Like he eats these little insects like spiders and ants, and it gives them ultimate power. What 1190 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,440 if he sucked the blood of a human one time and it just turned him into like as strong, if not 1191 01:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,560 stronger than Dracula? Well, that's what I would have liked to have actually seen. Because I was 1192 01:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,840 thinking about that because he was so much more powerful than those brand new familiars that first 1193 01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680 of all, I didn't realize that a vampire could create like multiple familiars, but I thought it 1194 01:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,840 would have been really cool if there was like some kind of discovery because there hadn't, there had 1195 01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,720 never been like a familiar that had lived that long. Or maybe after a certain amount of time, 1196 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,640 like he could figure out like he draws his power from Dracula. Maybe he was able to break down 1197 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,120 some barrier and take more power from him than he was giving him. Like there was so many like 1198 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,240 directions that they could have gone that I thought would have been cool other than just him maybe, 1199 01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,680 I don't know, eating more bugs than the other guys. You know, I thought it was funny when 1200 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720 Schwartz, when he, when he like sniffed that centipede and got the power. 1201 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,400 Nicholas Holt played Nicolas Cage's son in 2005 as the weatherman. Holt has named Cage an inspiration 1202 01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,680 for many different roles. Nicholas Holt and Nicolas Cage are inserted into footage from Dracula 1203 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:15,200 in 1931 to serve as flashbacks. We gave him the Kung Fury treatment. William, some snacks. 1204 01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:23,360 Would you like an icy carbonated soda? My nipples look like milk duds. 1205 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:30,560 Yes. William Ragsdale. Everybody, that's, those are quotes from Kung Fury. All right. 1206 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,240 I'm coming. Who plays the elderly? William Ragsdale who plays the elderly priest is best 1207 01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,960 known for playing Charlie Brewster in the Fright Night films. Nicholas Cage actually owns two 1208 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,400 European castles. He bought one for 10.2 million and the other for 2.3 million. Who knew that 1209 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,920 castles were that inexpensive? Right. And also, you know, Nicholas Cage is very notorious for 1210 01:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,680 buying just the weirdest off the wall. Like he has put himself in debt, I think a couple of times, 1211 01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,920 because he just, I mean, at one point he had the highest graded version of action comics. Number 1212 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840 one, I'm wearing a Superman shirt right now. Everybody I'm wearing the, the Fleischer 1930 1213 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,200 Superman logo shirt. At one point, Nicholas Cage owned, I think it was a 9.0 CGC action comics. 1214 01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,200 Number one. And I think he eventually sold it, but yeah, that's the kind of shit that he buys. 1215 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:25,040 Yeah, he sold it to buy a castle. He bought a castle with it. So that'll do it for our review 1216 01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,120 of Renfield. I think we pretty much got our, our views out there and let's go and give our final 1217 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,520 thoughts here. And what are your final thoughts on Renfield? I wouldn't watch it again. No? Would you 1218 01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,760 recommend it? Would you recommend people go out to see it themselves? Not go out and see it. Wait 1219 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,080 till it, wait till it's streaming. Yeah. Did you have fun with it though? When you, when you went 1220 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400 to go see it? I tell, I'm telling you, I fell, I fell asleep. I did. So there were moments where I 1221 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,240 laughed and I enjoyed it. And I, again, I, my, my view has not changed on it since talking to you 1222 01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,560 because a lot of the stuff that you, it's not like I realize anything is what I'm saying from this 1223 01:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,080 discussion, which sometimes I do. Yeah, that happens sometimes. But all the stuff that we talked 1224 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,560 about is how I felt in the, in the, in the theater. There were times where I laughed. I fell asleep at 1225 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:12,720 one time. I cried. I didn't cry at all. I wept like a little boy. I wept, but no, like I just, I, 1226 01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,120 I think that there was a lot of potential. I thought there was a lot of missed opportunities. 1227 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,920 I thought there were some very entertaining and fun times. I just wish for more from this movie. 1228 01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,880 Agreed. Yeah. I kind of feel a very similar way. I think it had the skeleton of a really 1229 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,720 interesting idea. I think Robert Kirkman and Ryan Reilly had something really interesting. They, 1230 01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,280 they picked correctly with Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt. I think there's a, some missed 1231 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,440 opportunities. We already talked about the Aquafina of it all. Like there you bench sports is great in 1232 01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,680 this movie. There are, there are elements of a really good movie in this, in this, like not a 1233 01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,240 great movie, but a really, really good movie. And I just think they missed the mark on a couple places. 1234 01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,160 And we talked about those during this review. So I agree. I think it's something that had we had 1235 01:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,080 literally anything else going on this week, this is fine. This is fine to admit now at the end of 1236 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,640 the review, if we had anything else to do this week, we probably wouldn't have covered Renfield. 1237 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760 I think it's something that I would have seen eventually, but I probably wouldn't have went 1238 01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,720 to the theater to see it. But that being said, I had fun with it. I think it is, I think it is a 1239 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,080 fun time at the theater. If you're, if you have already seen Super Mario Bros and you don't care 1240 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,720 about John Wick, go see Renfield. Honestly, that's my, that's my honest suggestion. I think if you 1241 01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,080 just want to go see a fun kind of throw away comedy with Nicholas Cage turned up to 11, 1242 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,280 go see it. If you're a Nicholas Cage fan, absolutely go see it because I think you will get your money's 1243 01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,320 worth just from him. Right. So let's go and write this thing out of five David A. Weiner's, which 1244 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,280 of course David A. Weiner is our director, producer, creator of In Search of Tomorrow, 1245 01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,840 In Search of Darkness, the documentaries, those five hour long documentaries that we love so much. 1246 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,600 So Aaron out of five David A. Weiner's, what are you going to give Renfield? 1247 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,760 I'm going to give it a 2.5. I feel like here recently, anytime that you have a rating, 1248 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,520 I always give it like a 0.5 higher, but I already had 3.0 stuck in my head. So I'm going to, 1249 01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,000 because I think again, like I just said, I will recommend this movie to Nicholas Cage fans 1250 01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,440 and people that have not seen Super Mario Bros yet. So I'm going to give it a three. And I think 1251 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,160 it's right there. It's like barely recommendable for me. And I, and then we've always said that 1252 01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,640 like three is recommendable. Like that is, that's the cutoff. So yeah, I'm going to give it a three 1253 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,200 out of three out of five David A. Weiner's. So that'll do it for our review of Renfield. Let's 1254 01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,920 go ahead and get into my favorite segment of the show every single week. Aaron's arcade. 1255 01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,880 It's time for Aaron's arcade. 1256 01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,440 Welcome back to Aaron's arcade. 1257 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:54,720 Excuse me. I'm still reading Invincible. Hey everyone. Spoilers. I'm still reading this 130 1258 01:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,720 issue series by Robert Kirkman and I still can't put it down. It's good. I still can't put it down. 1259 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,560 Like I am, I'm in it. I, and I've even like at what, like I'm obsessed. I think I'm obsessed. 1260 01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,040 I might have a problem. I'm so happy that you're doing this too, because this is a good, 1261 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,800 I remember when you first started reading this, I was like, whoa, you know, I don't know. 1262 01:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760 I don't know if I wish you guys could see his face. 1263 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,960 Invincible is a tall glass, right? Like it's again, 130 issues of a story and you, 1264 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,960 yeah, like it reads faster than 130 issues. I think it reads closer to like a hundred issues 1265 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,120 because there are some that are like, but I think so. But when you said that, I was like, man, 1266 01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240 it's, it's a lot, but I'm so happy that you're enjoying this because if you can get through 1267 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,240 Invincible, there's a lot of stories that you can get through. Yeah. That's a benchmark. 1268 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,280 I'm excited to see what's next, but I am also like, I made a video about this. I'm excited to 1269 01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:51,840 see what's next, but I am also like, man, there's so much going on in this, in this story. 1270 01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640 You remember what happened in the last issue? Do you remember what issue you're on? 1271 01:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,560 Yes. So right now, Invincible has teamed up with Dinosaurus. 1272 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,520 Yes. It's so good. Cause Dinosaurus is like a total bad guy up to this point, right? 1273 01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,840 Yeah. Yeah. We've met Throg, the Viltrumites, what are, what are left? I think he said 34, 1274 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:19,840 them are on earth. Now, Alan just came to earth and tried to release a, a, a, was it virus? 1275 01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,360 A new virus. And, and I guess, uh, what's his name? Mark Invincible. He got, he was exposed to it. 1276 01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,680 I think that's the last thing I saw was the last frame was him starting to bleed from the ears. 1277 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,880 Yeah. And so if you're, you haven't met Conquest then yet, right? Right. Oh, no, 1278 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,680 we're way past Conquest. Conquest is dead. Okay. I was gonna say Conquest, that, that part of the 1279 01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:47,280 story is my favorite. Yeah. Conquest, holy shit. And then he came back. Yes. But I do like the, 1280 01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,040 the Dinosaurus arc is also really good. And, um, I really like what happens with Alan and Mark 1281 01:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,200 going forward as well. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious to see how this, how this occurs. Cause right now, 1282 01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,720 and then you got, you got Oliver's grown up, man, he got his ass beat by, by Throg. Yep. Jesus. 1283 01:10:04,720 --> 01:10:11,200 That was so fucked up, but like there's, there's, there's so, we're spoiling season four of Invincible 1284 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,880 right now. There's so much, by the time season four comes out, you'll forget this. Um, there's so much 1285 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,560 shit, like there's that one scene where like Throg just puts his hand like through, uh, no, was it 1286 01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,520 Conquest just put his hand through, through Adam Eve at one point. I'm just like, that just keeps 1287 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,880 happening to people. Yeah. It literally keeps happening to you. They're just like, like hand 1288 01:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,920 through the fucking like torso. And they keep living somehow. They keep living. And then, and 1289 01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,200 then Adam Eve was pregnant, which is crazy. And I know like, you know, I don't know, there's just, 1290 01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,920 there's so much to it. And I'm like, I, I feel like there's, I, I feel like I'm not far at all 1291 01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,040 in this story, but like, I also am excited to see what's next. Yeah. But it also doesn't feel like 1292 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,280 there's very much left. Oh, trust me. There's a lot left to go, man. Yeah. So am I a terrible person? 1293 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040 Cause I haven't done anything else besides read Invincible. No, I think that's totally fine. Like 1294 01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920 that's okay. We talked about a little bit before the show here. I think it's totally, when you get 1295 01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,520 into Invincible, you kind of have you like, you just dive into it. And it is one of those, 1296 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,880 it's one of those stories that rewards upon just can like, once that issue ends, you go right into 1297 01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,440 the next one. Like it's so easy. It's just like saga the same way. Is Invincible done? It's done. 1298 01:11:15,440 --> 01:11:19,840 Yeah. They've, they've, they shut it down like 2012, I think is when the last issue came out. 1299 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,040 Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Last thing that I want to say real quick is, do you remember how 1300 01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:32,160 long ago Megacon was? Like three weeks ago, like three weeks ago, I submitted some stuff to CGC 1301 01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:39,520 and they tried to get it back. They tried to deliver it yesterday. Holy crap. CGC, man. That's 1302 01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,680 awesome. They tried. So you got to go to the post office and pick it up because you got to get a 1303 01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,160 signature. I have to wait till fucking Monday. Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cause we're recording 1304 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,040 this on Saturday, April 15th, everybody. So yeah. Well, that's awesome though. Three weeks. That 1305 01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,600 turnaround is awesome. I'm so mad. Dude, you got your comics back in three weeks. Go to the post 1306 01:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,560 office. Not a big deal. I'm so it's not, it's in Nashville. It's at the FedEx place. Oh, no 1307 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,720 kidding. That does kind of, I can't go get it. Like I know. And that's the thing is like, there are 1308 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,520 some amazing things that I just want to look at. And I have to wait two, like three, two and a half 1309 01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,360 more days now. That's what you have to everyone at home. If you've never gotten to CGC comic, 1310 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,040 that's what you do to them. You just get it and look at it. Yeah. Display it somewhere. 1311 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,200 I'm literally going to just like, I'm going to, I'm just going to look at it real hard. 1312 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:31,200 I'm going to sleep with them in my bed. Man, I'm so excited. So like I'll stay tuned for a lot of 1313 01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,200 social media. Join the grid because we'll probably talk about it. Yes. I'm so I like I'm so excited, 1314 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,640 yet so angry that I didn't get them yesterday that like I want to break something. Don't break 1315 01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:49,040 your CGC comics. You're going to have. I won't. OK. Saying that I feel better. Let's talk. Let's 1316 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,800 talk about my favorite part of the show. Do you know what that is, Chris? No, what is it? 1317 01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:01,040 It's Chris's Corner. It's time for. For this is quarter. 1318 01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,440 How good was that transition? Oh, man, it was spot on. It's almost like we could finish each other's 1319 01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,200 semi colons. That's what I was going to say this week for Chris's Corner. We're going to be talking 1320 01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,600 about Arcade Kings number one, and I actually have a co-host for this segment. Arcade Kings 1321 01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,520 number one is written and illustrated by Dylan Burnett. This is a new prestige comic coming out 1322 01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,440 from Skybound, and it actually does not come out until May 17th. And so we got to see it a month 1323 01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,800 early. Thank you, Skybound for giving us an early preview of this book. And this is a story that 1324 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,320 introduces us to a character named Joe, who is this mysterious new face in Infinity City, who has 1325 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,360 suddenly become the hottest new player at Roundhouse Arcade. Anyone can challenge him, but no one can 1326 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,120 win. Joe's secret pass is about to catch up to him when his most formidable challenge rolls yet into 1327 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,200 town, forcing Joe to combo his powers with his joystick, his fist and is fighting for his family's 1328 01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,920 legacy. So this comic, I feel like was curated for people like you and I who love just who really 1329 01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:12,000 enjoyed the era of arcades. And Dylan Burnett is the artist from the Cosmic Ghost Rider, 1330 01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,240 destroys the Marvel Universe storyline. And I remember seeing his art and that was like, 1331 01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,720 man, this is awesome. So when this story, when we eventually got a preview for this, I was like, 1332 01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,480 yeah, I'm in and really, really enjoyed this first issue. It is again, it's prestige. It's a, I think 1333 01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:32,800 it's 45 pages instead of the normal, like 28. So it's a lot of comic 799 when it eventually comes 1334 01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,880 out. So it's a little pricier than normal, but this is worth it. In my opinion, it's awesome. 1335 01:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,840 Really enjoyed very much Scott Pilgrim vibes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's a lot of like about 1336 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,520 like there is fighting in this story, but it's like, meet me at the arcades, meet me at that arcade. 1337 01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,600 And this we're really going to throw down type of deal. Like you're even wearing a street fighter 1338 01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,920 number two shirt right now. And back in the day, that's how you handled arguments. If you want to 1339 01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:02,480 settle a thing, Hey, TMNT, let's do it right now versus Capcom, bitch. Yeah, let's do the Capcom too. 1340 01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,280 Yeah. Shot shotgun Wolverine, Dr. Doom and Mega Man. Let's do this thing. Right. So arcade kings, 1341 01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,400 Aaron, I'll let you, I'll hand it off to you if you want to say something, but I really enjoyed 1342 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,680 it and I highly recommend it. Once again, it comes out May 17th, so go check it out at your 1343 01:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,720 local comic book shop when it comes out. Yeah. So I really enjoyed this one from, from, I remember 1344 01:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,840 seeing the email about this upcoming title a while ago and I'm like, man, yeah, add that to my list. 1345 01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:31,040 I'm super excited for it. And I'm glad that I did. And I'm glad that it's going to stay on my list, 1346 01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:39,440 even though I've already read it because the art in this is so exciting and like colorful and, and 1347 01:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,680 I want to call it like gritty. Yeah. But it's just, it's, it's, it's dynamic. It's gritty. It's, 1348 01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,800 and it's just, if you like, Animes like kill a kill, if you like Animes where they literally 1349 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,840 get into like street fights and it's just insane, like action. If you like fighting games, if you're, 1350 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,640 if you're a smash brothers fan, if you anything like that, this is the comic for you. And this is 1351 01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,240 a great way to start because again, two, I think it's two issues in their prestige. So, so again, 1352 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,600 longer, basically you're, you're looking at like a two volume. It's like four issues normally. Yeah. 1353 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,520 Yeah. Yeah. And so it's not a long read, but it's going to be a fun read. And I think that it's going 1354 01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,560 to, you're going to get a lot of entertainment value out of it. And you're going to like the 1355 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,800 details and kind of the references of it. So, and this comic kind of reads very similar, like we 1356 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,960 were saying earlier with like invincible, like it reads quickly because it's a lot of art. It's not 1357 01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:32,480 super wordy. Dylan does a lot with his art. He says a lot with like his act with his panels. 1358 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:37,440 And I think that's really cool. So that's what I was going to say. Pan, like the panels are not your, 1359 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,320 your general like same, like six panel pages where you're going to get like, like you're getting like 1360 01:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,000 pages with like 19 panels. And it's just like a combo move, you know, it's so much fun. It's all 1361 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,240 very kinetic and just very high energy. It's awesome. So once again, arcade Kings, number one, 1362 01:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,320 go check it out when it eventually comes out in May. And that'll do it for Chris's corner, Aaron, 1363 01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,120 that'll do it for the oblivion bar episode one 15. We've done it once again. And people at home, 1364 01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,840 if you're listening right now, let me tell you, we have no idea what we're doing for episode one 16, 1365 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,160 because as you, if you remember at the end of episode one 14, we were supposed to have 1366 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,920 the one and only Kevin Smith on the show. He unfortunately had to reschedule and we're trying 1367 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,840 to stay water. We're trying to stay flexible. We're trying to figure out if we can get him on 1368 01:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,080 the show for this next week. If we can, he will be one, he will be episode one 16. If he cannot 1369 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,000 Aaron and I will find something else to do for episode one 16 and we will keep you up to date. 1370 01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,520 Once we figure that out. So here's hoping that we can get Kevin on the show. This is no ill will 1371 01:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,760 towards him. Obviously we know he's a very busy man. He's, we actually talk about it. A lot of 1372 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,000 our questions that we have for him deal with him just being all over the place all the time. 1373 01:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,160 All the time. He's always doing something. So if we can get him on the show, of course we will, 1374 01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,560 but we'll let everyone know as soon as we know, but that'll do it for episode one 15, Aaron, 1375 01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,280 go ahead and go ahead and take us out of here. Okay, honey. Subscribe to our podcast app, 1376 01:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,400 Apple podcast, Amazon music, and I heart radio. 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Uh, it's your, your, your support is tax 1391 01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,640 deductible and it just goes, it means the world to the veterans and everybody that, that we help. 1392 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,440 So thank you. Yeah. I go support shred the stress. And also Aaron, I didn't mention this earlier. I 1393 01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:35,600 just, I just reminded myself happy birthday to the oblivion bar. Third birthday is tomorrow. So yes, 1394 01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,680 yes. April 16th. So I have it on my calendar. Yep. It's our third birthday, our third birthday. 1395 01:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,920 We'll, we'll post about it tomorrow on Thursday, the third day. Yep. Yeah. So dog years we're 21 1396 01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,160 or no, is it, is it, we'll be 21 years old tomorrow, right? Dog years. Yep. Every seven 1397 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:59,520 years. Yeah. So happy birthday to us. One, you know, 115 episodes later, uh, 80 episodes of the 1398 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,320 grid where to keep chugging along, keep it going. We're going to keep on keeping on. That's right. 1399 01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,720 Thank you guys so much for listening to the oblivion bar podcast. We, we really do appreciate 1400 01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,520 it. And we will see you next week for episode one 16.