100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040Hey, I'm Jake.200:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,080And I'm Jesus.300:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,480And we are the hosts of Spec Tales.400:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040And you're listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast.500:00:07,040 --> 00:00:35,200Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your hosts, Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.600:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920Hello, everyone.700:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,880Welcome to episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, the official podcast of the Fantasy800:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,720Shop in St. Charles, Missouri.900:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,520I am Chris Hacker.1000:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,480I'm one of your co-hosts here.1100:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,640And joining me this week is my BFF and familiar Aaron Knowles.1200:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,280You know, when something crazy happens and someone's like, it's OK, I've seen way worse.1300:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480Everything I saw today is going to be my way worse.1400:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280You know, it's funny is that is from OK, everybody.1500:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,720We're talking about Renfield today.1600:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,600That's from Aquafina.1700:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280And I think if I remember correctly, we talked about Shang-Chi, you have a very particular1800:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,200view on Aquafina.1900:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560You're not really a giant fan.2000:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,040Is that correct?2100:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280Or my did I is that like Mandela effect?2200:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,760Did I just like assume that I think you're just assuming that.2300:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,120But it's also kind of true.2400:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840I was going to say I'm almost positive.2500:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840I've heard you say at some point in our friendship, you don't really like you can't2600:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520stand Aquafina for some reason.2700:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000But actually, I kind of get it after seeing this.2800:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520Like, I kind of get it a little bit.2900:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440We'll get into that here in just a bit, everybody.3000:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,560Welcome to the Aquafina Bar Podcast.3100:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,920He fucking hates you.3200:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,880And I kind of get it.3300:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,640Oh, man.3400:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,320Like we said, we are talking about Renfield.3500:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,480This is a movie that talking about our most anticipated films of 2023.3600:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,240This is a film that we were, I would say, pretty excited about, but one that we're3700:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200probably not going to cover here on the show.3800:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320We were just going to see it individually and just talk about it within our personal3900:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,240lives, maybe on the grid or something.4000:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040But schedules made it to where we were like, you know what, let's cut this one for us.4100:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280You know, sometimes you got to do one for the boys.4200:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120And Renfield is that for us.4300:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,920We wanted to cover this.4400:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120Do it for your balls.4500:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,200I don't know what.4600:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,440What?4700:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,920I don't know.4800:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,320I don't know.4900:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,840Welcome to the Oblivion Bar Podcast.5000:02:14,640 --> 00:02:15,600We're on Patreon.5100:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,560Yeah.5200:02:16,560 --> 00:02:16,960Yeah.5300:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,000You want to talk about your balls?5400:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000Go to patreon.com forward slash Oblivion Bar Podcast.5500:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,240That's where you can hear about our balls is on the grid, which if you don't know,5600:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,800now you know.5700:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,720We save all of our ball talk.5800:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280Yes.5900:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,120Yes. I got a funny story.6000:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,560Can I tell you a funny story real quick?6100:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,760Go ahead.6200:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,240Okay.6300:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640So one time, this is, you know, if you don't know already, if you're new to the show,6400:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,760even if you're not new, you know that Chris and I were both in the army.6500:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,480Okay.6600:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120And things are a little bit different in the army.6700:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,320Okay.6800:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,960You can talk about it when I was in compared.6900:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760You mean just like in general or from when I was in both.7000:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,760Got it.7100:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,960Different, different worlds.7200:02:52,960 --> 00:03:02,320So during my second deployment, which was, I want to say 2006, 2005, no, 2006, like 2007.7300:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000Anyways, so I'm in Iraq.7400:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760We're in the motor pool, which is where we stage all of our vehicles, all of our trucks,7500:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320because Chris and I were both 88 mics, right?7600:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,880No, no, no.7700:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,440You were a golf.7800:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040No, I was a 92 Fox.7900:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600But a Fox.8000:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,240Yeah, he was a fuel.8100:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320So we both dealt with the same thing.8200:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,360They're essentially the same thing.8300:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840Um, you got to drive the truck with the gas on the back of it.8400:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,040He's a fucking idiot, Mike.8500:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,840So don't let him fool you.8600:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,200I'm an 88 Mike that gives out gas.8700:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,440Yes.8800:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,760Sometimes.8900:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,240Yes.9000:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,680So we're in the motor pool and I just remember, I don't know how the discussion,9100:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320I can't tell you anything surrounding this conversation.9200:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800I just remember describing my balls as dog balls because they hang down very low.9300:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120And it was just a funny conversation that I was having with some people in the,9400:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,560in the motor pool.9500:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280And you know that you can like, that's army for you.9600:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,840Armily.9700:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,320Right, Chris?9800:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880You can talk about almost whatever the fuck you want.9900:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800And like people don't really care.10000:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,680The filter is gone.10100:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680The filter is gone because you literally.10200:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,640You suck.10300:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800Everything sucks and you suck together.10400:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,360And so you embrace the suck as they call you embrace the suck.10500:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960And so you just kind of get down to that nitty gritty of life and you can just talk about10600:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,080anything anyways.10700:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,040So I'm just in there talking to him like, oh yeah, I got like dog balls because they10800:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,800hang down so low and out of nowhere from like around the corner, like my platoon sergeant,10900:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,120who's like our main supervisor, he goes, what the fuck are you talking about?11000:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,640You can't be saying shit like that.11100:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480So basically I ended up doing pushups for the entire rest of that day.11200:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,640I don't know why I'm talking about this, but anyways, join us on patreon.com forward slash11300:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,280oblivion bar pot where you can hear more talk like that.11400:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,240You want more ball talk?11500:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,360Go to the oblivion.11600:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,480I get where I was going with that.11700:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,000There's on the grid.11800:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,040There's no filter.11900:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,680It's that's right.12000:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240It's formula free.12100:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600That's just a little taste, a little teaser of all teaser.12200:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,100Okay.12300:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,200So patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar.12400:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,040God, we're going to lose so many viewers over that story.12500:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,920They've already turned it off.12600:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,360They've already turned the episode off.12700:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,320I'm so sorry.12800:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,160You can, you can edit all of that out.12900:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360Now, we're keeping it in for your contribution over at patreon.13000:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560You can have access to the grid, which is basically the last five minutes.13100:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,040Ball talk.13200:04:59,280 --> 00:04:59,840It's our page.13300:05:01,280 --> 00:05:05,040If you're not talking about Aaron's balls, we're talking about my ass, which is colon,13400:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,320colon talk or CGC.13500:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,240Our exclusive weekly podcast strictly Aaron's balls, my ass and CGC comics.13600:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,240That's a weird kink.13700:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,440And true.13800:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,280X you also get access to episode transcripts, early access to these episodes.13900:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,080And you get a special shout out at the end of each oblivion bar episode.14000:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320Like you'll hear later on, which I do.14100:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,200And I love doing, um, once again, patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod.14200:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,560Check us out again.14300:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080Everything that we get through Patreon goes back into the show to make the show even better.14400:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,480And we appreciate your support, honestly, like no, all jokes aside, we very much appreciate14500:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,400everybody's support that we've gotten so far.14600:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,160And it meets the world of us.14700:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,080It means, you know, it just, it really helps us make this show better.14800:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400And it really is from go back and listen.14900:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,560That don't don't go back and listen to episode one, uh, but just know that it's better.15000:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,040Okay.15100:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,840Yeah, absolutely.15200:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,000It has gotten definitely much better since episode one, both of the oblivion bar and of15300:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,680the grid, both we've gotten significantly, we've streamlined this stuff.15400:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,160So, uh, without it, without further ado, and hopefully no more ball talk, let's go15500:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,440ahead and get into our using notes.15600:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,480News and notes.15700:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,720All righty.15800:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,280Our news and notes this week is sponsored by what not what not to buy or sell comics,15900:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,680Funko pops, trading cards, or even shoes.16000:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,960What not has you covered?16100:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,360You can download what not any iOS or Android device, and please use our referral link in16200:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080our show notes to get $15 upon signup.16300:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240That's free money from us to you.16400:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,000If you just go to our show notes here and, uh, click on the link below.16500:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,800Our show notes here and I click that link there for what not and, uh, what not buy,16600:06:42,800 --> 00:06:44,160sell, go live, go check it out.16700:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,040What not is awesome.16800:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,360They are a sponsor of our news and notes segment, but from the bottom of my heart,16900:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,160all jokes aside, what not really is freaking awesome.17000:06:52,160 --> 00:06:52,560They are.17100:06:52,560 --> 00:06:53,040They are.17200:06:53,040 --> 00:06:53,360Yeah.17300:06:53,360 --> 00:06:54,400Um, check it out.17400:06:54,400 --> 00:06:56,320Can I tell you something in German that I learned?17500:06:56,320 --> 00:06:56,960Like I learned.17600:06:56,960 --> 00:06:57,040Yeah.17700:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,320So one of the first things I ever learned when I learned to speak German was, uh, they17800:07:00,320 --> 00:07:03,280have like a TV show, like a children's TV show.17900:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,800So anybody knows the easiest way to learn a language is to watch like a children's TV18000:07:06,800 --> 00:07:07,040show.18100:07:07,040 --> 00:07:09,360And so they had this musical like show.18200:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,080I don't know what it's called cause I'm fucking German, but, um, it was the song and it was18300:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840talking, it was about this soccer.18400:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,480This is this, uh, cow that lost his soccer shoe.18500:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760He can only find one of them and he was a rather small cow.18600:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,600So, uh, decline a coup has I didn't foosball shoe.18700:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,200Okay.18800:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,360And the song declined a coup, declined a coup has I didn't, I didn't foosball shoe.18900:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,320That's how you remember that?19000:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960Yeah.19100:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,520Okay.19200:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,360Everyone at home listening right now, Aaron is going to keep trying his absolute best19300:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,840to just divert every single conversation we have into another topic.19400:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,960So just bear with us.19500:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760I will be your, I'll be your huckleberry.19600:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,520I will keep us on track, but Aaron will keep giving us small lessons in German and19700:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440ball talk throughout the show.19800:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480And I can tell that Chris is being passive aggressive right now.19900:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,880Is it coming through the show?20000:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520Can people hear that on the other, please let us know.20100:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,800Oblivion bar podcast.20200:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320I don't think you know how that is.20300:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,360No, I love it.20400:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,160It's so hurtful.20500:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400Your past is very genuine.20600:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200I love, I love the ball talk and I love learning German.20700:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600You're so sarcastic and it's hurtful.20800:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520Is the sarcasm not helping the passive aggressive?20900:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320It's not.21000:08:18,320 --> 00:08:18,720It's not.21100:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,200Okay.21200:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,080Let's get into, we'll talk more about our toxic relationship later on during our regular21300:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360review, but before that, let's go ahead and talk about new comic publishers because21400:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000Go to the comic book couples counseling show and have them help us.21500:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,880Brad, Lisa help.21600:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,080We have a brand new comic publisher distillery which shoots to innovate in the way that comics21700:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240in the way that comic publishers treat comic creators and the readers.21800:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,560So the team behind Comixology Originals, David Sternberger and Chip Mosher are back as21900:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,960co-founders of a brand new comic publisher distillery.22000:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,440The lineup of creators or quote unquote founders of this new publisher are absolutely stacked.22100:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,800Comic giants like James Tinian the fourth, Scott Snyder, Becky Klumman, Jock, Rom V,22200:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,600Brian Azzarello, Joelle Jones, good friend of the show, Elsa Chardier, Stephanie Phillips,22300:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280and Erin, one of your favorites, Mirka and Dolph are all some of the creators involved with this.22400:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880So you've probably saw this on social media over the last week.22500:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,320All of these creators posted this.22600:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480It was all very ambiguous initially, but after looking it up and seeing what was actually22700:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600going on, distillery is essentially offering equity in the company and readers, a marketplace22800:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,160for digital collectibles, a build as kind of like a stub hub of comics.22900:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,320The creators will own all their IP and successful careers will even share in the equity of the23000:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,720company via like a third, I guess like 3% pull set aside for other purposes and whatnot.23100:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040According to the New York Times launch article, distillery will launch officially at San Diego23200:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,360Comic-Con 2023 with the Devil's Cut, which is an anthology featuring basically all of those23300:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280founding creators that we were just talking about.23400:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,440So on their website here also Erin, it says creators will have their own work in a piece23500:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,040of distillery within itself.23600:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,400So they will bring it premium oversized limited edition, single issues, premium limited edition23700:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720merch, physical and digital.23800:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,760And it says here you buy, you own, you can sell any of this stuff also on the aftermarket.23900:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,360I think they're kind of hoping for that.24000:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200Creators get a cut every single time.24100:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520There's no NFT hustle or crypto hassle.24200:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600So Erin, we talked about this a little bit before the show here, kind of discussing what24300:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,720this is because, you know, there's already a company in the comic world that gives creators24400:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,000100% of their creations.24500:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,280It's called Image Comics.24600:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,080A lot of people, a lot of comic fans and people within the medium have said that the next24700:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,240era of comics, because right now we're currently in what's called the modern age of comics.24800:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440Yeah, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Silver Age, Modern.24900:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,720Some people have said the next stage will be the image era, which is basically creators25000:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240finally getting control of their own IP.25100:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640That seems to be the idea behind distillery.25200:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,320But, and we kind of divulged this a little bit, like I said, before the show, we think25300:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,360distillery is trying to add a type of Mondo spin to this, which is, you know, they'll25400:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160say Scott Snyder has a brand new series out.25500:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760It's him and Elsa Chardier.25600:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,680It's a four issue mini series on Friday at noon Eastern time.25700:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,920We're going to release the single issues.25800:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,640We're going to release three variants, 50 of one variant, 25 of one and 10 of another25900:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200plus t-shirts, pens, whatever other kind of merch they have.26000:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,640Go get it.26100:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760And it'll be for an affordable price, but you have to be clicking the same way you do26200:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120when you buy like a Mondo poster.26300:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,640So interesting idea.26400:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,280What are your thoughts here with distillery and kind of again, a Mondo type of business26500:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,880model in the comic world?26600:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,080I think that this is a great invention, a great idea to throw into the community.26700:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,400As long as it continues to be tangible.26800:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,400One thing I'm just never a fan of is that are things like NFTs.26900:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,900Okay.27000:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,040Am I a fan of drops?27100:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120Am I a fan of very limited supply?27200:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,000Not necessarily.27300:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920I think that if there's something available that you want to get, then great.27400:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,400As long as so, so I guess to sum up what I'm, what I'm trying to say, I like the idea as27500:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760long as there's still accessible, it's still accessible.27600:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,920Whether it's digital and just the physical portion are, is what distillery drops.27700:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,960I get that.27800:12:10,960 --> 00:12:18,000It's a great maneuver for the creator owned industry to make money, to drive interest27900:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000into specific, in a specific industry.28000:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240They do it with shoes, a model did it with posters, whatnot does it on their app with28100:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,880a lot of things.28200:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,960You know, I like the idea behind it.28300:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,240What I just don't like is like, is if I see something that I very much want and I'm forced28400:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000to go to the aftermarket to get it, that's probably going to happen.28500:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000Unfortunately, I know, I know it's going to happen and I'm not, that's, that's the port.28600:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400That's the backside of it that I'm not happy about it.28700:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,440Do I love the fact that creators are getting their own space, their own ability, their own,28800:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,920their, their remaining with that ownership of their IPs.28900:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,840I love that for the creators.29000:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,560What sucks though, is the fact that in order to make this a success, you have to limit29100:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,080what's accessible to everybody.29200:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,360And I get it, but in a, here's, here's, I guess, I don't mean to drag on too much about this,29300:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,400but there are too many people out there with access to ways of like scalping these items.29400:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,280Or bots even.29500:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,840Bots.29600:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,320Yeah.29700:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,760So they use bots.29800:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,280Nobody gets a chance to buy them.29900:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960They're sold out, they're gone.30000:13:18,960 --> 00:13:25,520And now I have to go pay three times the, the, the MSRP because some asshole is, is able to use,30100:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520like there's gotta be a different way.30200:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,720So I think what the main idea, and I agree with you with everything that you just said there30300:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,800is the, what distillery wants to do here is they want to give fans the option to gain30400:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360or to buy more exclusive things.30500:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520And the creator gets that right.30600:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,400Like a lot of times what happens at cons or say like a single issue comes out and it's30700:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,800got like our first appearance or a variant comic creators do not see any money from variants.30800:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,200Right.30900:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400That is that's Marvel.31000:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,040That's DC.31100:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,840That's boom studios.31200:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,560That's image comics.31300:13:56,560 --> 00:13:57,680They get all that money.31400:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,520I think what distillery is trying to do is they're trying to put the money in the creator's hands.31500:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,760So if Scott Snyder or Elsa Chardier create a new series, all the money that's made from31600:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400these exclusives goes right to the creator.31700:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,760It is going to be a situation where there's going to be a very limited variant or very31800:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,960limited piece of merch.31900:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,520That's fine.32000:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,840As long as it's just the variant, as long as like, because I think the normal series32100:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,280is going to be available.32200:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,520Yeah.32300:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,560Exclusive stuff.32400:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,040Good.32500:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,920Because that's what I'm saying.32600:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,880That's what I was worried about because like I see what not stuff in my comic shop.32700:14:31,440 --> 00:14:39,600I see publishers that do limited access of variants in my comic shop, which I'm glad to see.32800:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,560Those are publishing houses that still cater to the everyday person, to the everyday Joe.32900:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,840What I don't want is a limitation on the entire supply.33000:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,160Right.33100:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,040Like a bad idea.33200:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,160Have you heard a bad idea?33300:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,440Yeah, that was a bad idea.33400:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,760Now they're gone.33500:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,560It was a bad idea.33600:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,440I think that they are completely poking fun at the comic medium, making everything33700:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,400extremely exclusive, no digital comics, like having zero access to their work.33800:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,440Didn't they have like a completely like clear comic book?33900:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120Yeah, they sold invisible comic.34000:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,600Yeah.34100:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680Then CGC created it because it's a gimmick.34200:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120That's a it's a joke to them.34300:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,760And I understand the impulse to like poke fun at the industry because it is some parts of it34400:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200are very silly and like collecting in general is kind of a silly idea.34500:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800As someone who's a giant collector of a lot of things, I tell you that it's just hoarding.34600:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,000Clear your shoulder.34700:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,280Exactly.34800:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,440Everyone behind me, you can't see it, but I've got over 1200 graphic novels behind me,34900:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,280plus statues and other things.35000:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640So yeah, the idea is silly and bad ideas making fun of that.35100:15:36,640 --> 00:15:43,360I think the story will give fans the option to buy more exclusive things and the creators35200:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,400will get all of it.35300:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,280But the worry, as always, like you said, is scalpers, bots, people that are going to buy35400:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760this stuff strictly to sell it in the aftermarket will have access to this stuff and the real35500:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,960fans will have none of it.35600:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,200Again, because like I when I was at Megacon in Orlando, like I got in line, luckily,35700:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,040with enough time to buy some of the fan expo exclusive variants for Megacon.35800:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,360Yeah.35900:16:05,360 --> 00:16:12,320And when I was in line, all I saw was just guys coming back and grabbing more like just36000:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400stacks of the exclusives.36100:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640And like within an hour, they were all gone.36200:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,760And it's like, I know people that were trying to go for those and it's just, it sucks because,36300:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,560and then I find out from the guy who was managing the convention that the people selling the comics36400:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040were only supposed to let people buy one each.36500:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,680Yeah.36600:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,080And it's like, you need to make sure that your staff knows this before you put them in charge,36700:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320because it clearly wasn't happening.36800:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,800Collecting is a dirty game, especially exclusives like con convention exclusives and things36900:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,200like that.37000:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400Like if you know the right people and you're and you're getting a little something, something37100:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920on the side, you know, being at these conventions, I can tell you, I've seen a lot of gross stuff37200:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600and it's unfortunately a part of it.37300:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,000But, you know, you just hopefully as a fan, you were able to just gain access to some of37400:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,400that stuff.37500:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,320So, yeah, let's go.37600:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160Yeah, let's go ahead and get to our next piece of news here.37700:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,400Yeah.37800:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560So Netflix is reportedly developing.37900:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,560Fuck this news, man.38000:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,840An American remake of Squid Game.38100:17:06,560 --> 00:17:06,800Yeah.38200:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,000Why?38300:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,280I honestly don't even want to read.38400:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,440Okay.38500:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200So my reaction was the same thing because it's like why oversaturate something that38600:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,960is already like extremely popular.38700:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760But the news does kind of make sense.38800:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080Let's get into this and let's see how you feel after we talk about a little bit.38900:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,520So Squid Game was one of the biggest shows that Netflix obviously has ever released.39000:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,240It was huge.39100:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,600Mass streamed all time.39200:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,400Most streamed.39300:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,960And with season two in the works with creator,39400:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,040Xiang Ji Hong, the series hasn't really been in the news recently.39500:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,760Jeff Snyder's The Hot Mic podcast revealed last week that Netflix is in the process39600:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,320of developing a remake of Squid Game and they want David Fincher to produce the series.39700:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480Rumor has it that the series would not be a direct remake, but instead a new series of39800:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,960Squid Games, but just set in America in the same universe.39900:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,880Netflix has not confirmed that this American remake is in the works.40000:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,400I swear to God, like I hope this is a fucking lie because I'm so I think I'm cursing more40100:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,320this episode and then we've ever done before.40200:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,000So I apologize if this is offending anybody.40300:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,960I'll try and stop.40400:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,320I hope this is not the case only because like I am very tired of them.40500:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360This is basically them whitewashing a series.40600:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,320But I mean, let's be honest, they're taking an idea from from somewhere else in the world40700:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,320and and just basically catering and pandering to white America.40800:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240And obviously in this case, it didn't matter.40900:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,200It wasn't.41000:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,240It's not needed.41100:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,240It's the most stream show ever.41200:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800That means the original was fine.41300:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760If it was unknown, like there's a movie.41400:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040I want to say it's Japanese.41500:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,320It's called Oldboy and Josh Brolin starred in the American remake.41600:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,920I never saw the American remake, but I know that there was some insane twists in the41700:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,480original that I feel like they probably couldn't have done.41800:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,640And if they did do it in the in the remake, good for them.41900:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200But again, that was unnecessary.42000:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,880Like there are certain things that are just so unnecessary.42100:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,920Isn't that what generally happens to with these remakes is they always dull it down42200:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,400a little bit.42300:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,120They temper a lot of what makes it so special.42400:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,400Like my my reaction, my first thought is always ghosts in a shell.42500:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,280Why?42600:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,960Why did we do this?42700:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080Why did we need a live action American version of that?42800:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,800So that actually, I mean, to be honest, like that wasn't necessarily an American version.42900:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,240I mean, it was just OK.43000:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280Let me let me explain something to a lot of people that were really upset about Ghost43100:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,080in the Shell.43200:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,680Ghost in the Shell did not whitewash major Ghost in the Shell, the original anime made43300:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,840her culturally ambiguous because she was a cyborg.43400:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520She was not Japanese when she had the robot body.43500:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,280OK, you're not going to replace a soldier's destroyed body and make them a super secret43600:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,400robot cyborg agent and give them the same body.43700:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,000So all the people that were upset about the Ghost in the Shell movie with Scarlett Johansson,43800:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,920go check your facts.43900:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,120OK, go touch some grass.44000:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,480I'm just saying.44100:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280But like I do understand that it's horrible.44200:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,400I'm just saying they did.44300:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,360They did dull it down.44400:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,600I will say like that, but it was still I mean, it was still cool.44500:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,200But that was one of those that was one of those movies that they completely overshadowed44600:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,520with a quote unquote racist agenda because they made an American woman star of a Japanese44700:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,240anime.44800:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,560Sure.44900:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760Like remake or I guess or adaptation.45000:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,320So well, just to kind of get back to this good games, too, like I'm like when I first like45100:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160I said, when I saw the headline, I was like, OK, why?45200:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,560Why?45300:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,000We haven't even gotten a season two yet.45400:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920Season one just came out last year.45500:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480So why are we going back to the well immediately?45600:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,920Netflix, what are we doing here?45700:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,280We're not out of ideas yet, right?45800:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,720We can't be out of ideas.45900:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600But when it says here that it's not a direct remake, it's instead it's a separate squid46000:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,840games just set in America in the same universe.46100:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440That kind of changed things slightly for me.46200:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680I'm not like excited about it, but it does a little bit.46300:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,520But I swear to God, if Mr. Beast is in this, I'm going to be fucking upset.46400:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,640Got some tick talkers in there.46500:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880We got, you know, Haley Bieber.46600:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800They probably I'm not joking.46700:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,760They probably will.46800:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,000They probably will take the contestants and it'll be like influence.46900:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840So it'll be influencers.47000:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,240Yeah.47100:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,880But can you imagine Jack Black playing, you know, red light, green light?47200:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,600I'm OK.47300:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,880I would be OK with Jack Black.47400:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920I'm part of a generation.47500:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000And so are you of the Jack Black and as many things as you can.47600:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,880But don't go.47700:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,680But just don't kill him.47800:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,400Why would you kill him?47900:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,520That's silly.48000:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760But yeah, now, like I said, I'm on the fence about this a little bit, but I'm well.48100:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520If it ends up becoming true, I'm interested just to kind of see what if it's David Fincher,48200:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320Aaron, you know that David Fincher is my favorite director of all time.48300:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880So if David Fincher is involved, I'm in.48400:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080Like you have my money.48500:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080I mean, Netflix already has my money every month.48600:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480But like I'm going to see this if David Fincher is involved.48700:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,960Yeah.48800:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,520Yeah.48900:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,640I'm still going to watch it.49000:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,720I'm not going to like I'm not going to lie.49100:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,360I'm not over.49200:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,120Are we going to get a squid games universe?49300:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,520The squid squid verse is SGU.49400:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,020Yeah.49500:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,480All right.49600:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,840Let's get into our last bit of news here.49700:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,120We got our first trailer for Marvel Studios, the Marvels.49800:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,960So it's been a while since we've seen Captain Marvel,49900:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,280a.k.a.50000:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,880Carol Danvers on the big screen.50100:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600Her last cinematic experience was at the end credit scenes of Shang50200:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, although we did also see her in the50300:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200final episode of Disney Plus's Miss Marvel.50400:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160Since then, Captain Marvel's the Captain Marvel story has gotten a lot bigger50500:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120outside of the main films with one division introducing us to a grown up50600:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,560version of Monica Rambeau getting her powers, getting her own powers.50700:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,880We also recently met Captain Marvel super fan Kamala Khan, who also became a50800:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160hero herself in the Miss Marvel Disney Plus series.50900:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,400Now, all three of these beloved characters will be uniting for the Marvels,51000:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,880the official sequel to 2019's Captain Marvel,51100:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,920which will see these three heroes team up to stop a new cosmic threat.51200:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,640Are we a team?51300:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680Come on, like I'm in Volanias, come on, like on is still I love her.51400:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320Like I don't think we ever reviewed Miss Marvel here on the show.51500:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,800I don't think so.51600:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,480I think it's probably top one or two favorite Disney Plus shows thus far.51700:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,280Like it's it's probably Loki, She-Hulk, then Miss Marvel for me in terms of my51800:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,160favorite Disney pluses.51900:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440I know that's kind of a hot take ish kind of, you know, take right there.52000:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,880But I love all three of those shows so much.52100:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160So yeah, I'm going to go.52200:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,360I'm going to go Loki, She-Hulk, Hawkeye.52300:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,320OK, yeah.52400:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520So if everyone goes back and listens to our episode with Sal from Comic Pop52500:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960talking about phase four of the MCU, he actually had Hawkeye quite pretty high52600:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520on his list, too.52700:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280I want to say it was like number two or three on his list.52800:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,160So I get it.52900:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960You know, I'm just not really like I liked it, but I didn't love it as much as53000:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,440most people.53100:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480So I just can't stand a like I can't give Miss Marvel like a higher rating53200:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,160in my in my level of greatness because I cannot stand a series that does not53300:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,200have a villain.53400:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,840Yeah.53500:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,880And this one did not.53600:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680Well, quickly, what would you give Miss Marvel out of five David A.53700:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,160Winers?53800:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,840Just since we didn't cover it here on the show.53900:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,560A three.54000:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,120You give it a three.54100:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,720Yeah, I was going to give it a three point five.54200:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,160Like it's pretty good.54300:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760It's like Loki is probably a four.54400:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,320She-Hulk's probably like a three point five.54500:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080Miss Marvel's probably like a three point five for me.54600:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,880Well, if you go back and listen to our she-hulk for you, because we did54700:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280review that here on the show, I think I actually did give it a three point five.54800:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,480So I should have given it a five.54900:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,040But I'm kidding for different reasons.55000:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080So in the trailer here, we keep seeing the three heroes power swapping.55100:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,280You know what's going on here.55200:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,680We actually saw that in the Miss Marvel series as well.55300:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,360When Kamala uses her powers, all of a sudden, Carol Danvers burst into her55400:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,320closet and wakes up.55500:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,520It's like, what the hell is going on?55600:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,440Which I think we actually see in this trailer as well.55700:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440So we also see the return of Nick Fury, who will be fresh off the events of the55800:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280Disney Plus series Secret Invasion and the events that go into the events of55900:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,760this movie.56000:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,280So Parasite Star.56100:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,320I'm going to say this wrong here.56200:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,680Park Seo Jung.56300:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,880Is that right?56400:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,160June.56500:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,960June.56600:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120Yeah, I love Parasite, but I don't know if I said that correctly.56700:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,360Whose mysterious character still remains just that can be seen leading a group of56800:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,120warriors into a potentially big battle, followed by a followed by a hoard of56900:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,040what could be dozens of flirtkins, which is what Goose is in the show.57000:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080Excuse me, in the movie, in the first movie, we do have a bit more info57100:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600regarding the film's potential big bad being played by a velvet bussoles.57200:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880I'm going to say this wrong again, too.57300:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,160Zowie Ashton.57400:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000That's not about right.57500:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,800Okay, we've known that Ashton could be playing a villain in the film following57600:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000her casting announcement, but her appearance in the trailer indicates that57700:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320she has connection with a classic MCU big bad.57800:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840In the first brief scene, we see Ashton still unnamed character wielding a57900:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,840hammer, which, as we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, is called the Cosmo Rod.58000:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200It looks remarkably close to the same hammer that's wielded by Ronan the58100:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720Accuser, played by Lee Pace, who also showed up in the first Captain Marvel58200:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680movie briefly and, you know, of course, is the main villain of the first58300:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000Guardians of the Galaxy film with the Power Stone.58400:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,320So the Marvels, of course, will be releasing in theaters on November 10th, 2023.58500:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,600Aaron, when this late again, when you excuse me, when this was first58600:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240premiered, you actually texted me and said you thought this looked pretty good.58700:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,960Do you stand by this?58800:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,160Do you still think it looks pretty good?58900:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,800Yeah, I do.59000:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,440I'm I'm fairly excited for this, which I did not expect.59100:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240Yeah, you're a notorious hater of the first movie.59200:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,280I'm not saying you're a hater.59300:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,440I'm just saying you don't like the first movie, right?59400:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,640Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.59500:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,440I'll go with that.59600:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640He is not a hater, everybody.59700:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160He likes powerful women.59800:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,680Okay. He is not an incel.59900:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,040He just didn't like the movie.60000:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680All right.60100:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,240I gave very specific reasons for not liking Captain Marvel.60200:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,200Okay. It was it felt like, again, Captain Marvel felt like it was an60300:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760afterthought when it came to the MCU.60400:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,000Yeah.60500:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080Smushed between Infinity War and Endgame.60600:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,240Yeah.60700:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,480Yeah.60800:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280It's like we had to figure out who Captain Marvel was before she showed up.60900:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040Oh, shit, we forgot to do a Captain Marvel movie.61000:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480Yeah, this was definitely like a phase two movie that came out in phase.61100:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,880Yeah.61200:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,600So had it been released earlier, probably would have enjoyed it a bit more, but we didn't get it.61300:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200So yeah, I'm excited for this.61400:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,160A, I love Kamala Khan.61500:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,400I love I love Milani.61600:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,360Is there what I'm in?61700:26:41,360 --> 00:26:41,760Milani.61800:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,320Yeah, I am in.61900:26:42,320 --> 00:26:50,480I love what she's she for some reason like her her genuineness when it comes to being a super fan62000:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,040of Captain Marvel and then the seriousness of Monica Rambeau.62100:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,200I'm just I'm excited for the how they all kind of like interact and that they do need to team up.62200:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880So there's like there is a lot to this.62300:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,960The movie looks really cool, looks really action packed again with a with a return of Nick Fury62400:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600after the Secret Wars like I just.62500:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,400Invasion.62600:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760So excuse me, Secret Invasion.62700:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,440Secret Wars was who?62800:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,560The Secret Wars is a lot.62900:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,760We got a couple of years for Secret Wars.63000:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,800Remember, that's the first.63100:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,400That's the second movie.63200:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320That's the second Avengers movie between after we get the King Dynasty, then it's Secret Wars.63300:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,720Right.63400:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,760So Secret Invasion.63500:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800I'm just excited to see how this plays out.63600:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,480I really I want them to give more to Captain Marvel.63700:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,400I want them to redeem what her character has already been put through63800:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,840as far as the her reception into the MCU.63900:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600So I am excited for that to go.64000:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,480And Monica Rambeau, just I'm excited because of after seeing her on WandaVision.64100:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,680I think that she is and then also they had somebody else play64200:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,600photon or Captain Marvel, like Captain Marvel, the black version, Captain Marvel in in.64300:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange.64400:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,720Yeah, that's her mother.64500:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,960Yeah.64600:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,920So that's her Maria.64700:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160Maria Rambeau is Captain Marvel in a separate universe.64800:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,480Yeah.64900:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,800Yeah.65000:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920So like I just I'm excited for her to get her time as well.65100:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,640It's I think it's going to be exciting.65200:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,400So I am excited for this movie.65300:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040So the thing that I'm most excited about with this movie is the65400:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080the kind of the relationships between these three characters.65500:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,240On one hand, you have Carol Danvers, who her relationship to Earth has not really65600:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480been the same since the 90s when she left.65700:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,120Right.65800:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,160She was from Earth.65900:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280But then the moment she got these powers, she essentially has been66000:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680shipping around from planet to planet, helping wherever she can66100:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560with not really a moment to breathe in between that and in game.66200:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,280And even after that sense, then you have Monica Rambeau, who, of course,66300:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760was very close to Carol when she was still on Earth.66400:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,240But since Carol left and it's shown in one division that Monica is very jaded66500:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,120towards Carol.66600:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880She thinks that she abandoned her mother because Maria eventually passes away.66700:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,080And where was Carol?66800:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,520Carol, that's her best friend.66900:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600That was, you know, her basically her surrogate mother or like her surrogate aunt,67000:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,800whatever you want to call her.67100:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240Carol met so much to Monica and Carol just left and never came back.67200:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640And Monica is clearly upset with that.67300:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240Again, it shows in one division.67400:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200We're going to have some some dealings with that for sure.67500:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,240Absolutely.67600:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,800Then you have Kamala Khan, who reveres Captain Marvel so much like she thinks67700:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,720she is just beyond everything.67800:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240Like she's a she's a mega fan.67900:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080She's a fanatic of Captain Marvel.68000:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,920And what happens when you meet your your your hero sometimes, Aaron, you get let down.68100:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320Yeah, I mean, you're going to have and that's the thing is you have this almost68200:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,760almost like I want to say, like no no Irish, like dark personality that like again,68300:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960she is a hero for so many reasons.68400:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,040But Captain Marvel has a chip on her shoulder, you know, and she's and I think smile.68500:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,520Yeah.68600:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,160All of that is all of the weight that she's been bearing with her powers and what she's68700:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,400been responsible for out in the universe is going to show up in this.68800:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,080And she is going to have to realize that she does have a little bit of a responsibility68900:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,160for the Earth and her and her friends and family and what she is and who she represents69000:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,200or what she represents.69100:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840So there's going to be again, there's going to be what they say, you know,69200:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,360some comeuppance when it comes to how she is received by these two counterparts.69300:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880Yeah, I mean, we've all been there, right?69400:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600We've all been lost in the sauce when it comes to life.69500:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,560Things take precedence.69600:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,840We have priorities in our heads.69700:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840And right now, Earth is such a small priority to Carol.69800:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880I mean, since but she needs to ground her.69900:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640She needs to be grounded in that humanity.70000:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,520And I think that's going to be a huge pivotal portion of this story is that she has lost70100:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080her her her kind of like like like Dr. Manhattan.70200:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,680Yeah, like his his like his tether to Earth and to humanity is gone.70300:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,080And the only thing that's holding him there is still expect her.70400:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,400And the moment that she eventually leaves, he's like, well, I'm going to Mars, bitch.70500:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,960I'm out of here.70600:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440I'm done. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting.70700:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520I'm very excited for the Marvels.70800:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880I'm glad that we're only getting is it two movies this year or three?70900:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720We've got Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three.71000:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240We've got the Marvels.71100:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480And then is there anything else this year?71200:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,560I don't think anything else.71300:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,120No, I don't think so.71400:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280I don't think there's any other movies, which is great.71500:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240I'm very happy with that because yeah, because there's only three because we had71600:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum media earlier this year.71700:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240So yeah, I think it's only three.71800:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,120I'm very excited.71900:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,720So that'll do it for our News and 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snap.75700:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,720Okay.75800:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640Oh, that sounds familiar.75900:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,120Yeah, what?76000:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120Renfield, bringing innocent victims.76100:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,960I want a handful of nuns, a busload of cheerleaders.76200:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,520And I just want a normal life again.76300:34:01,520 --> 00:34:23,200That this modern world is a dangerous place.76400:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,840Thank you.76500:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,880You saved my life.76600:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920Did I watch you cut a guy with a decorative serving platter?76700:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,720It's all in the wrist.76800:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,520Let me explain.76900:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,760My boss gave me this power.77000:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320In return, I tend to his needs, including care, feeding.77100:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,760You bring in people to eat.77200:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680You're like the guy that gets the villains postmates.77300:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240But if you were to stop focusing on his needs, what would happen?77400:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960He won't grow to full power.77500:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,080Exactly.77600:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,520He won't grow to full power.77700:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,400What?77800:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,520That's so weird.77900:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040Why would you frame him as a villain?78000:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200That's so weird. Why would you phrase it like that?78100:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,680But yes.78200:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,920Hi.78300:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,040Are you here for the meeting?78400:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,000Well, come on.78500:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640No!78600:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,140No!78700:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,240Some call me the Dark One.78800:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,560Others, the Lord of Death.78900:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,200To most, I am Barak Yuna.79000:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,640OK, obviously we're dealing with a little bit more than just narcissism here.79100:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600Now, let's eat.79200:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120All righty, here we are talking about Renfield Aaron.79300:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160Spoilers ahead.79400:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,040If you have not seen this brand new comedy, horror action, whatever this is,79500:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,480please take a second.79600:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960Pause this.79700:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,800Yeah, go go watch the film and then come back.79800:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360Wow, this is this is definitely this is an interesting movie.79900:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,880And Aaron, we have not talked about this at all.80000:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560We've pretty much saved everything until we've gotten to this review here.80100:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,680You actually saw it yesterday.80200:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960I saw it on Thursday night.80300:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360Initial thoughts, initial thoughts on Renfield.80400:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,480It was long.80500:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,320OK, all right.80600:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,600So you thought it was actually really long.80700:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,080Interesting.80800:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720OK, so it just felt long to you or?80900:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,000It felt long to me.81000:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720OK, you kind of dragged along a little bit.81100:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,880I just think that there was like there were relationships that didn't need to be in it.81200:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,360OK.81300:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,680And those relationships trying to give give weight to some of the antics81400:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920and some of the villains.81500:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400Just it was to me, it really wasn't necessary.81600:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,040So interesting.81700:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080Are you think are you talking about Awkwafina and Nicholas Holt?81800:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,840Yes.81900:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680OK, because this movie is only 93 minutes long.82000:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,480It's only an hour and a half.82100:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,760It's not really it's actually.82200:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,560Is it really?82300:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560Yeah, it's about as long as most horror films.82400:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,200Oh, my God.82500:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480That felt like, oh, my God, I was I'm not going to lie.82600:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080OK, I do.82700:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,880I fell asleep.82800:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,000You did.82900:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,320Wow.83000:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,960Yeah.83100:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,600Yeah.83200:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,400How was your theater?83300:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,080Was it was it packed or not really?83400:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,880No, there's OK.83500:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,840Six people in it.83600:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440We're going to talk about that here.83700:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400Mine was actually not like completely empty.83800:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400There was about 20 people in my in my showing,83900:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,560but it was notoriously bomb worthy for Thursday.84000:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560It only made nine hundred thousand dollars on Thursday.84100:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880Oh, not great.84200:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,240But not not good.84300:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080But my initial thoughts is that I had fun with it.84400:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,320I think it gave me kind of exactly what I wanted from this movie in a certain aspect.84500:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,520There are issues, but this movie, I think almost from the opening scene,84600:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000showed me that it did not take itself seriously.84700:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680Therefore, I should either.84800:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,000Right.84900:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,560Like it is this is a this is a really fun just like we're in the spring,85000:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840but this kind of like feels like kind of like a fun summer movie that you just kind of85100:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080will turn on when it's on streaming or something that you put on while you're cleaning.85200:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120I know this is not a good endorsement for going to see the theater, everybody,85300:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200but it is like I had a good time with it.85400:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,320I will say that it's it is a bipolar film.85500:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,800Yes.85600:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,120Yeah.85700:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200It's there were moments where I was like, what?85800:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,600And there's moments where I literally was asleep.85900:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760You know, were you getting laughs in your theater?86000:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440Were people laughing at the jokes?86100:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,800I laughed at some of them.86200:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,440Yeah, I did, too.86300:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520That's why I was curious because my crowd was actually kind of animated at certain parts.86400:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400Like they were laughing, they were gasping, and there's like there's only 20 people.86500:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,440But like, yeah, it was kind of like it was kind of a refreshing movie going experience86600:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520with all these people who are like kind of into it.86700:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120And I thought it was really fun.86800:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,200OK, so I'm going to mention I'm going to talk about something like that in a few minutes86900:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640because and I'll try and remember, I'll probably forget, but I won't.87000:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560But let's go into the summary real quick.87100:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,960All right.87200:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120So Renfield, should I do it?87300:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000Can you do it in like a vampiric voice?87400:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200Like a oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.87500:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,880Transylvanian voice.87600:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,280You got to add in like some Transylvania music in the background.87700:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,480Yeah, some bad in the background.87800:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,980Right.87900:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,400Here we go.88000:38:38,400 --> 00:38:46,000Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's88100:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000prey and do is every bidding.88200:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,800However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow88300:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,320of the Prince of Darkness.88400:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120Aaron just tried to give an evil laugh and just kind of right in the throat.88500:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,640Wow.88600:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,120Yeah.88700:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640I'm probably talking like this for the rest of the show.88800:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,840So here's something interesting, Aaron, is that the screenplay was actually co-written88900:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,360by Robert Kirkman, right?89000:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,080Like, right.89100:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,320Yeah.89200:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,480Why?89300:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,080I saw that at the end.89400:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,400Why?89500:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,720Yeah.89600:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,440Watching the credits.89700:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,640Did you see Robert Kirkman as well?89800:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,440Robert Kirkman.89900:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,440I was like, I was like looking around like anybody else see that?90000:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,680No.90100:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,160Yeah.90200:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,120Does anyone else care?90300:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600It's probably invincible guys walking dead.90400:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,720That's going on here.90500:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,120But also Ryan Ridley as well, who was a writer on Rick and Morty.90600:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,720Rick and Morty writers is like the new community college.90700:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,760Like these writers for Rick and Morty, they do two years and they're off doing their real job.90800:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,720Like all of them.90900:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,320You've got them all over the internship as a writer at Rick and Morty.91000:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,440Seriously, you get hired at like the Washington Post.91100:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920Exactly.91200:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000Like they literally graduate from Rick and Morty to whatever their actual aspirations are.91300:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,520But the movie, the screenplay itself is very linear.91400:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,200It's very simple, toxic relationships, how to deal with them, how to get out of them,91500:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,160how to be okay.91600:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,040Enough.91700:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,280Yeah, like I think it's worth saying that and we'll get into the cast here that Nicholas91800:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,640Holt as Renfield plays a very like this is a very low hanging comparison, but like I zombie,91900:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680kind of pathetic.92000:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640You mean warm bodies?92100:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,120Maybe it was warm bodies.92200:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360Yeah, just the zombie that's alive kind of.92300:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,560That's what I was going to say.92400:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,720Like Nicholas, like this to me, this movie was a lot like it was almost a spiritual sequel.92500:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,600A spiritual sequel.92600:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,000Thank you.92700:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360Yes, to warm bodies.92800:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,840And I'm just like, like I enjoyed that one more than this one.92900:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,480Sure.93000:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,120Okay.93100:40:39,120 --> 00:40:45,040Yeah, it just, it kind of felt like Renfield got over his toxic relationship with Count93200:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,640Dracula because he had to.93300:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080I don't think he really made the progressive steps that he really needed to, to eventually93400:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440get out of relationships like that, like completely cutting someone off the way you're supposed93500:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,640to in those relationships.93600:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,600We've all been in those relationships where we are being taken advantage of, where the93700:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120relationship is not benefiting us at all. It's only benefiting the person.93800:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,280Why are you clearing your throat over there?93900:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680What are you implying, Aaron?94000:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,400I don't have a soundboard.94100:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600Oh man.94200:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,840Okay.94300:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400If you want to say, is that going to cure our relationship?94400:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,720I'm kidding.94500:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000I gave you one for like an episode and a half.94600:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,800What else do you want?94700:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,600But, you know, that being said, clearly Nicholas Cage is far and away the best part of this94800:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,280movie, whatever Nick Cage is generally selling, I'm buying and he each use up every single94900:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,360scene he's in. He's the best part of this movie. Do you agree?95000:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560Yes. And I'm going to give Ben Schwartz an easy second place to that.95100:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,360Yeah. He's, it's John Ralphio meets like Scarface.95200:41:48,720 --> 00:41:54,080Like Ben Schwartz is literally, he's a walking embodiment of John Ralphio.95300:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,720Yeah.95400:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,680And he plays it so well.95500:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,400I love it.95600:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,240He's the doofus, the lovable doofus.95700:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,360You know, it's like he threw some cocaine at the cops.95800:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,960Okay. Actually that was the real scene whenever.95900:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,640So they had the traffic stop with Awkwafina and Chris is the co-worker for.96000:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,080Adrian Martinez.96100:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,400Yeah.96200:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200Yeah. And all of a sudden you see Ben Schwartz.96300:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,920Anytime you see a movie in 2023 where cars have neon underneath their car,96400:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,200that's a so a 2005 like Fast and Furious type of aesthetic. It's like they're not really,96500:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,640it's like black, it's black SUVs and orange chargers with neon lights underneath their car.96600:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,880I immediately am like, they didn't even try. They are going straight to the well when it96700:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880comes to cliches of gangsters. Right?96800:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920Yeah. Honestly, like this was like a comic book, literally like a comic book turned into a movie96900:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560because it was so stupid. Because like, if you looked at the side of the car,97000:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,880did you look at the vinyl wrap that was on the car?97100:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600No, I did not.97200:42:49,600 --> 00:42:57,280It was a lion snorting a line of cocaine. Like, it's like a racing stripe that turns into a powder97300:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,360like dots. And then it's the lion is snorting it. Like that shit was funny.97400:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,960Yeah. That aligns. Right. Like that tracks. And even at one point you have.97500:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080I have a prescription.97600:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400Yeah. Again, the best part about this movie, everyone, if you're listening,97700:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,640before you watch the movie, we will say that the actors are doing all that they can.97800:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,680I think everyone outside of Aquafina for me really like makes this worth it, even down to97900:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,440some of the really small supporting characters. Like again, I keep saying it, but we're going to98000:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600get into the cast here in a moment. Mark, the support group leader, he is surprisingly very98100:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240refreshing in this. Yes. Yes. Mark and Bob.98200:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,080Yeah. And Bob as well. Yeah.98300:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,240So director Chris McKay, director of seasons three through five of Robot Chicken and the Lego98400:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680Batman movie, which I don't know if you've seen Chris is pretty good. Yeah, it's awesome.98500:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,560McKay also wrote the recent Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves, which has been doing98600:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,320surprisingly well in theaters. Also, you remember before the year we were talking about98700:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,960honor among thieves is like, why are they doing this? This looks terrible. What's going on?98800:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,240And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, like we never even thought that it could do this is that98900:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,960it's like it's kind of the surprise hit of the year. It's like this and Megan are the two movies99000:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560that we were like kind of completely writing off and now they're doing extremely well.99100:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,400And I've seen neither of those. So Megan's good. I want to see. I'm going to eventually99200:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,360see honor among thieves. But yeah, Megan is good. I would recommend it. So Chris McKay claimed that99300:44:23,360 --> 00:44:31,040this film is a direct sequel to Dracula in 1931. Yeah. Yeah. Which is funny because again, this99400:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200movie opens up into like a straight up like black and white. I'm not open. It has like a like a mini99500:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480opening and then it has its true opening where it's kind of like it's delve into its own history,99600:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,880where it's like this black and white real like footage of Renfield and Dracula kind of through99700:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,680the ages. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting the way that necessary. Funny. But like a funny bit.99800:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,360It was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit. Yeah. No. And I think those were actually scenes from that99900:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,000movie from the 1931 Dracula. So they just basically CGI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to do the100000:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,440cast or do you want to go and get into the cast? We've already talked about quite a few of these100100:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,960majority of just for the layman. Yeah. All right. So obviously Nicholas Cage is Count Dracula. He100200:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,320and he did amazing. Nicholas Holt as R.M. Renfield, Robert Montague, Renfield, Awkwafina as Officer100300:45:24,320 --> 00:45:34,240Rebecca Quincy, Ben Schwartz as Tedward, Tedward, Choro Agdachalu as Bella Francesca, Adrian100400:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,040Martinez as Chris, Officer Quincy's coworker and Brandon Scott Jones as Mark, who is the support100500:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760group leader. An enormous fan of Dracula in the original source material, Nick Cage prepared for100600:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,040this role by observing the distinctive ways Dracula was portrayed on screen by Bella Lugosi,100700:45:49,040 --> 00:45:55,920Frank Langalla. So Bella Lugosi was 1931's Dracula, Frank Langalla, 1979's John Bradham's Dracula,100800:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400excuse me. And then Gary Oldman from 92's Bram Stoker's Dracula, which everybody hails as, you100900:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,480know, the ultimate. Cage also mentioned an American werewolf in London from 1981, The Ring in 98 and101000:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,800Malignant, which we all have seen in 2021 as inspirations for this role. So Nick Cage being101100:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,280the the the just straight up weirdo and amazing man that he is really chose the greatest source101200:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,680materials. And I'll say it, I loved it, but I know it wasn't well received. But Dracula Untold was101300:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,520another, in my opinion, a great Dracula movie. If you've seen it, Chris, let me know. I actually101400:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,360have not seen it now. I actually. So Dracula Untold was kind of the origin of Dracula, but not saying101500:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,480that he was the original vampire. Sure. But but a very cool movie. And yeah, I mean, so like but he101600:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,960didn't include that as one of his source materials. I thought that was kind of interesting. Have you101700:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,840seen Vampire's Kiss from 1988? No. Have you ever seen Vampire's Vampire in Brooklyn? No, I have not.101800:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,320But the reason why I asked about Vampire's Kiss is because see, there's another divert right there101900:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,520and just try to do everybody. Do you see that everybody listening? Guilty. Guilty as charged.102000:47:09,520 --> 00:47:16,080Yeah, got me. Vampire's Kiss is a movie from 88 that was that stars Nicolas Cage, and he essentially102100:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,600believes that he is turning into a vampire. And it's really interesting because it was kind of it's102200:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,320one of those movies that like it's kind of like a dark comedy, like there's horror elements to it,102300:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,520but it's also mostly a comedy. It's gained quite a cult following here recently because it was102400:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,080completely trashed back in the day. Like people were not taking it seriously. But as most things102500:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720with Nicolas Cage, it has gained a cult following as time has gone on and have kind of viewed it102600:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,800in a different lens because it is Nick Cage turned up to 11. You've probably even seen a lot of memes102700:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,280and gifs from that movie and didn't even realize it. Like there's one where he like lowers his head102800:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,560and points to the sky in a desk chair. That's Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss. Oh, interesting.102900:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200Every other secretary who's been here has been here longer than you, Elva.103000:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,720Everyone. And even if there was someone here who was here just one day longer than you,103100:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,160I still wouldn't ask that person to partake in such a miserable job as long as you were around.103200:48:13,520 --> 00:48:21,520That's right, Elva. It's a horrible, horrible job sifting through old contract after old contract.103300:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,960I couldn't think of a more horrible job if I wanted to. And you have to do it. You have to,103400:48:28,960 --> 00:48:36,320you have to or I'll fire you. Do you understand? Do you? I'll tell you, the thing that I really103500:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,720love about Nick Cage's interpretation of Dracula in this movie, again, while extremely campy and103600:48:42,720 --> 00:48:49,200while very, very like turned up to 11, his movement and the way that like his body acting103700:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160is very, very good. I think that adds a lot to it. And you went over some of the inspirations103800:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,880of like the ring or Malignant. Those movies are very, very kind of like the central idea of them is103900:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200kind of like a horrific kind of movement. Like think of the girl in the ring that is like her104000:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,280leg that comes over her shoulder as she's climbing out of the TV, like that kind of thing. With this104100:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,240movie, you have a lot of like the way Nick Cage when he's approaching someone, he always walks up104200:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,480really slowly. But the things he does with his hands and the way he turns his shoulders and the104300:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,840way he moves around you in circles is almost like he's stalking you. They're very predator to prey.104400:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,360Yes, absolutely. And everyone knows the age old like Dracula can't go anywhere without being104500:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,560invited. They even talk about that. Like he has to you have to physically invite him to go to go to104600:49:32,560 --> 00:49:39,120places. And I think what this movie does is it gives Nicolas Cage the charisma for people to like104700:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,240almost weirdly inherently trust him. Yeah, but they shouldn't because he doesn't he doesn't hide his104800:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,360extremely sharp teeth in this movie or his pale skin or his giant top hat and cape. Like he is104900:49:51,360 --> 00:49:58,880very, very much like the prototypical vampire. But like he preys on the fact that we are that humans105000:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,680are idiots. Yes. And that we do everything to like to like we're we're pleasers. OK, and we would105100:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,440rather die than like then judge someone to the point where we know that they're a danger to us.105200:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,240But we're like, yeah, we don't want to be rude. Was the Renfields, you know, welcome, come in105300:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,520mad. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, there was. And so like that allowed that was an invitation105400:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,160because he put it out there. And then and then the group leader who's just like, oh, come on into105500:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,800the group. You know, that I love those subtle, subtle ways that they included the lore into the105600:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,920screenplay. Exactly, exactly. So there I was going to say because like there's a couple of movies105700:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,880that are just really fucking terrible that are funny, though, because of how terrible they are.105800:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,920But Jim Carrey did a vampire movie quite a few years ago called Once Bitten. And it's105900:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,880actually one of my favorite vampire movies ever. And it's basically he is trying to get laid.106000:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,320And and he's basically he's like he's like a teenage guy. You know, he's trying to get laid106100:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,560and he ends up like dating semi kind of dating this vampire and she bites him once, but she has106200:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,800to bite him like one more time before like some like full moon or something before he becomes106300:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,480like a full vampire. And so it's him like going through the process, but still trying to like106400:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,320maintain being like human, like having to maintain his humanity, but also trying to like get his106500:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,600girlfriend back. So it's like one of those teenage like dating, like angsty, but like 80s,106600:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,320like funny comedies. Yeah. Nineteen five. I'm looking at right now. Yeah. That's another one.106700:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,280And so I highly recommend that one if you like just funny comedy like vampire films. Another one106800:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,840is Vampire in Brooklyn, which is Eddie Murphy is Dracula. OK, yeah.106900:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,640So vampires are such an easy like you can use and Robert Kirkwood is known for this. A lot of107000:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,440times what he does is he tells stories through vehicles of a not a cliche. What's the word I'm107100:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680looking for? Like The Walking Dead is a zombie story. But in reality, what makes The Walking107200:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,960Dead scary is not the zombies. It's the people. Right. Yeah. Invincible is a superhero story,107300:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,000but it's a story about relationships. It's a story about parents. They're metaphorical.107400:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,360Yeah. A lot of he uses like stereotypes, I guess, as a way of putting it as a vehicle. And this is107500:52:13,360 --> 00:52:19,920a vampire story. Yes. But it's more about codependency and toxic, toxic relationships107600:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,120more than anything else. But I think that's also it's like, you know, what do you call it? So107700:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,360Dracula also. So Nick Cage's character is also kind of I can't think of that. I'm having trouble107800:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,560thinking of the word, but he's almost I'm not sure what the word is, but he's he has his own like107900:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,240these these blinders on. He almost has this like filter over his eyes where he doesn't see himself108000:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,640as the problem. He's a narcissist. Yeah. Yeah. He's a narcissist, but he also has this like the108100:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,320the lenses that he's looking at the world and that he's looking at his relationship is is more than108200:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,520just narcissism because he's blinded. I mean, he is blinded by his narcissism. Yes. But there's108300:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,720like more to it than that. But I just I think that when they're talking about what you said earlier108400:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,280when we first started talking about this and how they didn't really address his his healing, his108500:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,400arc as far as character development, I mean, Renfield, I appreciate that they made the movie108600:53:14,400 --> 00:53:22,240about toxic relationships and it being a hindrance on humanity. But I also would have liked them to108700:53:22,240 --> 00:53:29,280maybe do do a little bit more with, yes, his kind of healing because they have the moment where108800:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,640they're in the apartment together. But the next time that we see Dracula and Renfield together108900:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000is at the end when they're fighting each other. And I guess that's kind of his moment to kind of109000:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,880overcome all this. But it all felt felt more like he was trying to save Aquafina and less about him109100:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,320trying to overcome this relationship and finally get out from underneath Dracula. Exactly. So to109200:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,800me, it felt like he was going from one relationship of codependency to almost another. Yeah. And109300:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,840that's what happens in relationships is that exactly these people do not get over codependency.109400:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,720They just shift that codependency onto someone else. Yes. That's not good either. So let's move109500:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,720on here to the budget. Sixty five million dollars. And I will say this movie obviously didn't cost109600:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,480very much money. I mean, last week we talked about Super Mario Bros and that cost one hundred million109700:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,960dollars to make. So, you know, on one hand, I think, yes, thirty of that went to Nicolas Cage.109800:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,800Right. Exactly. Like there are parts of this movie that look really good. Like when Dracula is healing,109900:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,080I love all that practical stuff with the way he looks at the beginning of the film compared to110000:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,240what he looks like as he slowly starts to regain some of his powers. But the CGI blood is absolutely110100:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,680horrific to the point where it's like it almost looks like an anime where like you cut someone's110200:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,440head off or you rip someone's arm off and it like spews out like a geyser. Like, but nobody's bloody.110300:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,000But no one's bloody. Yeah. Like even like at one point there's a there's a scene where you have110400:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,720Aquafina and Renfield basically going up against both the police force of New Orleans and Ted Word110500:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,800and Bella Francisca's crew, whatever. And you've got people getting their arms ripped off and like110600:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,880heads blown off and like all these things. And at the end of it, you've got Aquafina and Renfield110700:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,560who are completely clean. They don't have any blood on them at all. Where he like drop kicks110800:55:12,560 --> 00:55:19,840some dude in half over a railing and like blood is just like and he's like, OK, let's go get coffee.110900:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,720Yeah. Anyway, we'll get some coffee while we will be game plan. But so in the United and this is what111000:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,400we're kind of talking about earlier, Aaron, in terms of like I wanted to ask you how big111100:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,480like the showing was for your for this for this movie in the United States and Canada.111200:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,080Renfield was projected to only earn about eight to ten million dollars around in around three111300:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080thousand three hundred seventy five theaters in its opening weekend. Eight to ten million is not a111400:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,880lot of money. That's still probably finishing third or fourth at the box office. That's like a very111500:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,320you know, it's a very modest projection. Right. As of this recording, which is April 15th, Saturday.111600:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,280So we don't have the complete weekend projection. Renfield has only earned one point four million111700:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,920dollars at the box office. So in three days, it's only earned a million dollars. That is not great.111800:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,840Not great. Meanwhile, the Super Mario Bros. leads the pack with one hundred and forty six point111900:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,160four million dollars in the second weekend. So and it's surpassed around five hundred million112000:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,120dollars already. So it'll probably be around six hundred and fifty million. So basically what we're112100:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,800saying is that Super Mario Bros, John Wick four and the exorcist, the exorcist pope or something,112200:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,960whatever that that horror film that it's going up against, these movies are all destroying112300:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,760Renfield right now. That was kind of our internal debate here. This little peek behind the curtain,112400:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,240little inside baseball for everybody at home. Aaron and I were like, yeah, I mean, we're excited112500:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,080about this movie, but do we really want to cover on the show? Because who else is excited about112600:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,080this movie? Are we talking about a movie that no one else is seeing? And the answer is yes,112700:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880no one else has seen this movie. So if you're listening this right now and you haven't seen112800:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,360Renfield, that's OK. I guess you're not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. The majority of people112900:56:51,360 --> 00:56:57,840in the world also have not seen Renfield. Yeah, we're the one percent here. Seriously. So I think113000:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,960we've covered this movie pretty in depth. I mean, at the end of the day, we have, you know, Renfield113100:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,120and Awkwafina, who I got to talk about Awkwafina's characters a little. Yeah, let's you talk about it113200:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,600I think I kind of align with you as well. I didn't I didn't really love this movie. So it was a113300:57:13,600 --> 00:57:20,160completely unnecessary portion of the storyline to have to add in the whole like, well, they think113400:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,760about the hump. Will they won't they? Well, they will. They won't. They the mob killing her father,113500:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,000her sister being in the FBI, like they could have done it without so much of this. And it just felt113600:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,920like it was like they had to give her like an important storyline. I don't know. It just felt113700:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,880so stupid and shoehorned in there and also like it dragged the story. And that's what like really113800:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,640would be to a screeching halt every time you went back to. Yeah. Like you said, her sister,113900:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,280her dad or anything with Awkwafina at all. I would be like, God, come on. Whenever she is on screen,114000:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,160she walks around like she has scoliosis. Like, do you ever notice like she's like,114100:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920she has like kind of like a humpback a little bit. Yeah. It's like a critique on her. Yeah.114200:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,360But like Awkwafina is Awkwafina in every movie. That's who she is. Exactly. She's Will Smith.114300:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,400She's the rock. There are certain people when they go in, when they're in a movie, they Jamie Foxx,114400:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,600like, well, that feels kind of gross right now because Jamie Foxx actually just had a stroke.114500:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,360I don't know if you heard that, but generally when when these people are in a movie, they are114600:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,760just playing a version of themselves. Right. So that's Awkwafina in this movie. Yeah. And114700:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,360that's what was bothering me about it was because I just could not take her seriously. Like I can't114800:58:29,360 --> 00:58:35,360take her serious. I can't take her as a this is not a hit on her being a female actress or anything.114900:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,720I think that she has moments where she is a very powerful actress. And that's when she is115000:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,720playing a confident role. Shang-Chi was a perfect example when she got into her own and she was in115100:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,640that that, you know, the alternate dimension in that in that city, like she was walking around,115200:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800she was confident, she was shooting bows and arrows. She was proud of herself. That was awesome. But115300:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,320then they put her in a role like this, where she is like, I don't know, she just feels like she's115400:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,880like a beat down character. And she just walk around with her like, you know, bad posture. And115500:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,880she's like trying to be like her aggro character. And to me, it just doesn't fit into what she115600:59:09,600 --> 00:59:17,440could be. Right. And so that's that is my, my, my critique for her character is that I feel like115700:59:17,440 --> 00:59:24,240she could have been a more mature, better, like she could have been the the badass cop. They should115800:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,400have just given her a smaller role. But at this time, when this movie was initially coming out,115900:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,600I think this was announced and kind of just started to peak and going to production was around COVID.116000:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,360So Awkwafina was she had just got cast in Shang-Chi. Nora from Queens was very big. So like116100:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,520Awkwafina was starting to rise and they wanted to give her something to do in this movie. But116200:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960honestly, they should have just lessened her role and put Nicholas Cage should have been on screen116300:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,360more. He has a lot to do in this movie, as does Nicholas Holt. But more of those two would have116400:59:51,360 --> 00:59:59,760been fine with me. And then Shura Agdachlu as Bella Francesca, I was just completely like thrown off116500:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,720every time she spoke. I mean, I understand that she has to be like this very overbearing, like116601:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,920evil woman, but she has like this, I am the mother. Bring them to me. Bring them to me.116701:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280Can't do that voice very much often. Yeah. But just like she has that deep grumbling voice. And116801:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,520like, to be honest, it would have been kind of cool if we would have found out when they saw each116901:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040other that they were like long lost lovers or something. Yeah. Like she was a vampire this117001:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,200whole time as well. Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like, like that's something that I kind of expected117101:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,280when they first saw each other. Like she had that, they had this like interesting like look that they117201:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,760shared when they first met. So I was like, I was kind of excited about that. And what if Dracula was117301:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,640the father of Ted? Oh my God, how that would have been fucking awesome. Yeah, that would have been117401:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160great. Like there was so much that could put us in Hollywood guys. We can come up with good ideas.117501:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680There were so many good things that could have been done with this. And I just feel like a lot of117601:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,200it fell flat because they were trying to add in that route that like you said, like that, that117701:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,280Aquafina that will they won't they type situation. So yeah, that's, that's my critique. Yeah. Let's117801:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,720go and get some fun facts here. So Captain Nemo, Superman and Dracula are three roles that Nicholas117901:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,040Cage has dreamt about playing since he started his acting career. He actually got to voice Superman118001:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,400and Teen Titans go that goes to the movies in 2018. Obviously he plays Dracula here. We also know118101:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,280that Nicholas Cage was going to play Superman at one point in the Justice League movie that didn't118201:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,720end up happening, but that's okay. We have Renfield syndrome, which is also known as clinical118301:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,000vampirism, a rare psychiatric disorder where an individual has an intense fascination with drinking118401:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,560blood and believing themselves to be a vampire. This syndrome is of course named after the character118501:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,240R.M. Renfield from Brandon Stoker's novel Dracula, who consumed live insects to obtain their life118601:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,360force. We see that in this movie where in order for Renfield to get his powers, he has to consume118701:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,120life. And instead of consuming a human, which I kind of would have, I thought it would have been118801:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,080really cool. At one point he just consumed like a bad guy and it just turned him into a super saiyan.118901:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,800Like he eats these little insects like spiders and ants, and it gives them ultimate power. What119001:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,440if he sucked the blood of a human one time and it just turned him into like as strong, if not119101:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,560stronger than Dracula? Well, that's what I would have liked to have actually seen. Because I was119201:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,840thinking about that because he was so much more powerful than those brand new familiars that first119301:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680of all, I didn't realize that a vampire could create like multiple familiars, but I thought it119401:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,840would have been really cool if there was like some kind of discovery because there hadn't, there had119501:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,720never been like a familiar that had lived that long. Or maybe after a certain amount of time,119601:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,640like he could figure out like he draws his power from Dracula. Maybe he was able to break down119701:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,120some barrier and take more power from him than he was giving him. Like there was so many like119801:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,240directions that they could have gone that I thought would have been cool other than just him maybe,119901:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,680I don't know, eating more bugs than the other guys. You know, I thought it was funny when120001:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720Schwartz, when he, when he like sniffed that centipede and got the power.120101:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,400Nicholas Holt played Nicolas Cage's son in 2005 as the weatherman. Holt has named Cage an inspiration120201:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,680for many different roles. Nicholas Holt and Nicolas Cage are inserted into footage from Dracula120301:03:07,680 --> 01:03:15,200in 1931 to serve as flashbacks. We gave him the Kung Fury treatment. William, some snacks.120401:03:15,200 --> 01:03:23,360Would you like an icy carbonated soda? My nipples look like milk duds.120501:03:23,360 --> 01:03:30,560Yes. William Ragsdale. Everybody, that's, those are quotes from Kung Fury. All right.120601:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,240I'm coming. Who plays the elderly? William Ragsdale who plays the elderly priest is best120701:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,960known for playing Charlie Brewster in the Fright Night films. Nicholas Cage actually owns two120801:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,400European castles. He bought one for 10.2 million and the other for 2.3 million. Who knew that120901:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,920castles were that inexpensive? Right. And also, you know, Nicholas Cage is very notorious for121001:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,680buying just the weirdest off the wall. Like he has put himself in debt, I think a couple of times,121101:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,920because he just, I mean, at one point he had the highest graded version of action comics. Number121201:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840one, I'm wearing a Superman shirt right now. Everybody I'm wearing the, the Fleischer 1930121301:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,200Superman logo shirt. At one point, Nicholas Cage owned, I think it was a 9.0 CGC action comics.121401:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,200Number one. And I think he eventually sold it, but yeah, that's the kind of shit that he buys.121501:04:19,200 --> 01:04:25,040Yeah, he sold it to buy a castle. He bought a castle with it. So that'll do it for our review121601:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,120of Renfield. I think we pretty much got our, our views out there and let's go and give our final121701:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,520thoughts here. And what are your final thoughts on Renfield? I wouldn't watch it again. No? Would you121801:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,760recommend it? Would you recommend people go out to see it themselves? Not go out and see it. Wait121901:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,080till it, wait till it's streaming. Yeah. Did you have fun with it though? When you, when you went122001:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400to go see it? I tell, I'm telling you, I fell, I fell asleep. I did. So there were moments where I122101:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,240laughed and I enjoyed it. And I, again, I, my, my view has not changed on it since talking to you122201:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,560because a lot of the stuff that you, it's not like I realize anything is what I'm saying from this122301:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,080discussion, which sometimes I do. Yeah, that happens sometimes. But all the stuff that we talked122401:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,560about is how I felt in the, in the, in the theater. There were times where I laughed. I fell asleep at122501:05:04,560 --> 01:05:12,720one time. I cried. I didn't cry at all. I wept like a little boy. I wept, but no, like I just, I,122601:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,120I think that there was a lot of potential. I thought there was a lot of missed opportunities.122701:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,920I thought there were some very entertaining and fun times. I just wish for more from this movie.122801:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,880Agreed. Yeah. I kind of feel a very similar way. I think it had the skeleton of a really122901:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,720interesting idea. I think Robert Kirkman and Ryan Reilly had something really interesting. They,123001:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,280they picked correctly with Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt. I think there's a, some missed123101:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,440opportunities. We already talked about the Aquafina of it all. Like there you bench sports is great in123201:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,680this movie. There are, there are elements of a really good movie in this, in this, like not a123301:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,240great movie, but a really, really good movie. And I just think they missed the mark on a couple places.123401:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,160And we talked about those during this review. So I agree. I think it's something that had we had123501:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,080literally anything else going on this week, this is fine. This is fine to admit now at the end of123601:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,640the review, if we had anything else to do this week, we probably wouldn't have covered Renfield.123701:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760I think it's something that I would have seen eventually, but I probably wouldn't have went123801:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,720to the theater to see it. But that being said, I had fun with it. I think it is, I think it is a123901:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,080fun time at the theater. If you're, if you have already seen Super Mario Bros and you don't care124001:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,720about John Wick, go see Renfield. Honestly, that's my, that's my honest suggestion. I think if you124101:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,080just want to go see a fun kind of throw away comedy with Nicholas Cage turned up to 11,124201:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,280go see it. If you're a Nicholas Cage fan, absolutely go see it because I think you will get your money's124301:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,320worth just from him. Right. So let's go and write this thing out of five David A. Weiner's, which124401:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,280of course David A. Weiner is our director, producer, creator of In Search of Tomorrow,124501:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,840In Search of Darkness, the documentaries, those five hour long documentaries that we love so much.124601:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,600So Aaron out of five David A. Weiner's, what are you going to give Renfield?124701:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,760I'm going to give it a 2.5. I feel like here recently, anytime that you have a rating,124801:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,520I always give it like a 0.5 higher, but I already had 3.0 stuck in my head. So I'm going to,124901:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,000because I think again, like I just said, I will recommend this movie to Nicholas Cage fans125001:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,440and people that have not seen Super Mario Bros yet. So I'm going to give it a three. And I think125101:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,160it's right there. It's like barely recommendable for me. And I, and then we've always said that125201:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,640like three is recommendable. Like that is, that's the cutoff. So yeah, I'm going to give it a three125301:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,200out of three out of five David A. Weiner's. So that'll do it for our review of Renfield. Let's125401:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,920go ahead and get into my favorite segment of the show every single week. Aaron's arcade.125501:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,880It's time for Aaron's arcade.125601:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,440Welcome back to Aaron's arcade.125701:07:46,480 --> 01:07:54,720Excuse me. I'm still reading Invincible. Hey everyone. Spoilers. I'm still reading this 130125801:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,720issue series by Robert Kirkman and I still can't put it down. It's good. I still can't put it down.125901:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,560Like I am, I'm in it. I, and I've even like at what, like I'm obsessed. I think I'm obsessed.126001:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,040I might have a problem. I'm so happy that you're doing this too, because this is a good,126101:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,800I remember when you first started reading this, I was like, whoa, you know, I don't know.126201:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760I don't know if I wish you guys could see his face.126301:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,960Invincible is a tall glass, right? Like it's again, 130 issues of a story and you,126401:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,960yeah, like it reads faster than 130 issues. I think it reads closer to like a hundred issues126501:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,120because there are some that are like, but I think so. But when you said that, I was like, man,126601:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240it's, it's a lot, but I'm so happy that you're enjoying this because if you can get through126701:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,240Invincible, there's a lot of stories that you can get through. Yeah. That's a benchmark.126801:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,280I'm excited to see what's next, but I am also like, I made a video about this. I'm excited to126901:08:45,280 --> 01:08:51,840see what's next, but I am also like, man, there's so much going on in this, in this story.127001:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640You remember what happened in the last issue? Do you remember what issue you're on?127101:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,560Yes. So right now, Invincible has teamed up with Dinosaurus.127201:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,520Yes. It's so good. Cause Dinosaurus is like a total bad guy up to this point, right?127301:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,840Yeah. Yeah. We've met Throg, the Viltrumites, what are, what are left? I think he said 34,127401:09:11,840 --> 01:09:19,840them are on earth. Now, Alan just came to earth and tried to release a, a, a, was it virus?127501:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,360A new virus. And, and I guess, uh, what's his name? Mark Invincible. He got, he was exposed to it.127601:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,680I think that's the last thing I saw was the last frame was him starting to bleed from the ears.127701:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,880Yeah. And so if you're, you haven't met Conquest then yet, right? Right. Oh, no,127801:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,680we're way past Conquest. Conquest is dead. Okay. I was gonna say Conquest, that, that part of the127901:09:41,680 --> 01:09:47,280story is my favorite. Yeah. Conquest, holy shit. And then he came back. Yes. But I do like the,128001:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,040the Dinosaurus arc is also really good. And, um, I really like what happens with Alan and Mark128101:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,200going forward as well. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious to see how this, how this occurs. Cause right now,128201:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,720and then you got, you got Oliver's grown up, man, he got his ass beat by, by Throg. Yep. Jesus.128301:10:04,720 --> 01:10:11,200That was so fucked up, but like there's, there's, there's so, we're spoiling season four of Invincible128401:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,880right now. There's so much, by the time season four comes out, you'll forget this. Um, there's so much128501:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,560shit, like there's that one scene where like Throg just puts his hand like through, uh, no, was it128601:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,520Conquest just put his hand through, through Adam Eve at one point. I'm just like, that just keeps128701:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,880happening to people. Yeah. It literally keeps happening to you. They're just like, like hand128801:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,920through the fucking like torso. And they keep living somehow. They keep living. And then, and128901:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,200then Adam Eve was pregnant, which is crazy. And I know like, you know, I don't know, there's just,129001:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,920there's so much to it. And I'm like, I, I feel like there's, I, I feel like I'm not far at all129101:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,040in this story, but like, I also am excited to see what's next. Yeah. But it also doesn't feel like129201:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,280there's very much left. Oh, trust me. There's a lot left to go, man. Yeah. So am I a terrible person?129301:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040Cause I haven't done anything else besides read Invincible. No, I think that's totally fine. Like129401:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920that's okay. We talked about a little bit before the show here. I think it's totally, when you get129501:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,520into Invincible, you kind of have you like, you just dive into it. And it is one of those,129601:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,880it's one of those stories that rewards upon just can like, once that issue ends, you go right into129701:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,440the next one. Like it's so easy. It's just like saga the same way. Is Invincible done? It's done.129801:11:15,440 --> 01:11:19,840Yeah. They've, they've, they shut it down like 2012, I think is when the last issue came out.129901:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,040Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Last thing that I want to say real quick is, do you remember how130001:11:25,040 --> 01:11:32,160long ago Megacon was? Like three weeks ago, like three weeks ago, I submitted some stuff to CGC130101:11:32,160 --> 01:11:39,520and they tried to get it back. They tried to deliver it yesterday. Holy crap. CGC, man. That's130201:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,680awesome. They tried. So you got to go to the post office and pick it up because you got to get a130301:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,160signature. I have to wait till fucking Monday. Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cause we're recording130401:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,040this on Saturday, April 15th, everybody. So yeah. Well, that's awesome though. Three weeks. That130501:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,600turnaround is awesome. I'm so mad. Dude, you got your comics back in three weeks. Go to the post130601:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,560office. Not a big deal. I'm so it's not, it's in Nashville. It's at the FedEx place. Oh, no130701:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,720kidding. That does kind of, I can't go get it. Like I know. And that's the thing is like, there are130801:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,520some amazing things that I just want to look at. And I have to wait two, like three, two and a half130901:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,360more days now. That's what you have to everyone at home. If you've never gotten to CGC comic,131001:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,040that's what you do to them. You just get it and look at it. Yeah. Display it somewhere.131101:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,200I'm literally going to just like, I'm going to, I'm just going to look at it real hard.131201:12:23,200 --> 01:12:31,200I'm going to sleep with them in my bed. Man, I'm so excited. So like I'll stay tuned for a lot of131301:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,200social media. Join the grid because we'll probably talk about it. Yes. I'm so I like I'm so excited,131401:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,640yet so angry that I didn't get them yesterday that like I want to break something. Don't break131501:12:42,640 --> 01:12:49,040your CGC comics. You're going to have. I won't. OK. Saying that I feel better. Let's talk. Let's131601:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,800talk about my favorite part of the show. Do you know what that is, Chris? No, what is it?131701:12:54,800 --> 01:13:01,040It's Chris's Corner. It's time for. For this is quarter.131801:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,440How good was that transition? Oh, man, it was spot on. It's almost like we could finish each other's131901:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,200semi colons. That's what I was going to say this week for Chris's Corner. We're going to be talking132001:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,600about Arcade Kings number one, and I actually have a co-host for this segment. Arcade Kings132101:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,520number one is written and illustrated by Dylan Burnett. This is a new prestige comic coming out132201:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,440from Skybound, and it actually does not come out until May 17th. And so we got to see it a month132301:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,800early. Thank you, Skybound for giving us an early preview of this book. And this is a story that132401:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,320introduces us to a character named Joe, who is this mysterious new face in Infinity City, who has132501:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,360suddenly become the hottest new player at Roundhouse Arcade. Anyone can challenge him, but no one can132601:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,120win. Joe's secret pass is about to catch up to him when his most formidable challenge rolls yet into132701:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,200town, forcing Joe to combo his powers with his joystick, his fist and is fighting for his family's132801:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,920legacy. So this comic, I feel like was curated for people like you and I who love just who really132901:14:05,920 --> 01:14:12,000enjoyed the era of arcades. And Dylan Burnett is the artist from the Cosmic Ghost Rider,133001:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,240destroys the Marvel Universe storyline. And I remember seeing his art and that was like,133101:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,720man, this is awesome. So when this story, when we eventually got a preview for this, I was like,133201:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,480yeah, I'm in and really, really enjoyed this first issue. It is again, it's prestige. It's a, I think133301:14:26,480 --> 01:14:32,800it's 45 pages instead of the normal, like 28. So it's a lot of comic 799 when it eventually comes133401:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,880out. So it's a little pricier than normal, but this is worth it. In my opinion, it's awesome.133501:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,840Really enjoyed very much Scott Pilgrim vibes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's a lot of like about133601:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,520like there is fighting in this story, but it's like, meet me at the arcades, meet me at that arcade.133701:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,600And this we're really going to throw down type of deal. Like you're even wearing a street fighter133801:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,920number two shirt right now. And back in the day, that's how you handled arguments. If you want to133901:14:55,920 --> 01:15:02,480settle a thing, Hey, TMNT, let's do it right now versus Capcom, bitch. Yeah, let's do the Capcom too.134001:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,280Yeah. Shot shotgun Wolverine, Dr. Doom and Mega Man. Let's do this thing. Right. So arcade kings,134101:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,400Aaron, I'll let you, I'll hand it off to you if you want to say something, but I really enjoyed134201:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,680it and I highly recommend it. Once again, it comes out May 17th, so go check it out at your134301:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,720local comic book shop when it comes out. Yeah. So I really enjoyed this one from, from, I remember134401:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,840seeing the email about this upcoming title a while ago and I'm like, man, yeah, add that to my list.134501:15:25,840 --> 01:15:31,040I'm super excited for it. And I'm glad that I did. And I'm glad that it's going to stay on my list,134601:15:31,040 --> 01:15:39,440even though I've already read it because the art in this is so exciting and like colorful and, and134701:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,680I want to call it like gritty. Yeah. But it's just, it's, it's, it's dynamic. It's gritty. It's,134801:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,800and it's just, if you like, Animes like kill a kill, if you like Animes where they literally134901:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,840get into like street fights and it's just insane, like action. If you like fighting games, if you're,135001:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,640if you're a smash brothers fan, if you anything like that, this is the comic for you. And this is135101:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,240a great way to start because again, two, I think it's two issues in their prestige. So, so again,135201:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,600longer, basically you're, you're looking at like a two volume. It's like four issues normally. Yeah.135301:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,520Yeah. Yeah. And so it's not a long read, but it's going to be a fun read. And I think that it's going135401:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,560to, you're going to get a lot of entertainment value out of it. And you're going to like the135501:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,800details and kind of the references of it. So, and this comic kind of reads very similar, like we135601:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,960were saying earlier with like invincible, like it reads quickly because it's a lot of art. It's not135701:16:26,960 --> 01:16:32,480super wordy. Dylan does a lot with his art. He says a lot with like his act with his panels.135801:16:32,480 --> 01:16:37,440And I think that's really cool. So that's what I was going to say. Pan, like the panels are not your,135901:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,320your general like same, like six panel pages where you're going to get like, like you're getting like136001:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,000pages with like 19 panels. And it's just like a combo move, you know, it's so much fun. It's all136101:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,240very kinetic and just very high energy. It's awesome. So once again, arcade Kings, number one,136201:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,320go check it out when it eventually comes out in May. And that'll do it for Chris's corner, Aaron,136301:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,120that'll do it for the oblivion bar episode one 15. We've done it once again. And people at home,136401:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,840if you're listening right now, let me tell you, we have no idea what we're doing for episode one 16,136501:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,160because as you, if you remember at the end of episode one 14, we were supposed to have136601:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,920the one and only Kevin Smith on the show. He unfortunately had to reschedule and we're trying136701:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,840to stay water. We're trying to stay flexible. We're trying to figure out if we can get him on136801:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,080the show for this next week. If we can, he will be one, he will be episode one 16. If he cannot136901:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,000Aaron and I will find something else to do for episode one 16 and we will keep you up to date.137001:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,520Once we figure that out. So here's hoping that we can get Kevin on the show. This is no ill will137101:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,760towards him. Obviously we know he's a very busy man. He's, we actually talk about it. A lot of137201:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,000our questions that we have for him deal with him just being all over the place all the time.137301:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,160All the time. He's always doing something. So if we can get him on the show, of course we will,137401:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,560but we'll let everyone know as soon as we know, but that'll do it for episode one 15, Aaron,137501:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,280go ahead and go ahead and take us out of here. Okay, honey. Subscribe to our podcast app,137601:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,400Apple podcast, Amazon music, and I heart radio. 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Thank you, DJ sky back for our grid theme. And thank you fantasy shop138501:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,120for sponsoring the show. Don't forget to tip your bar in tears, 20% or more. And I'm just going to138601:18:51,120 --> 01:18:56,160plug this real quick. If you're looking for any kind of way to support a good nonprofit, make sure138701:18:56,160 --> 01:19:02,320you check out shred the stress.org. That's my nonprofit. That's a nonprofit to support veterans,138801:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,800service members and their families. Uh, we're going to have a new, uh, shred the stress commercial138901:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,840coming out soon just cause we had to update some things on it. But, uh, yeah, if you're looking for139001:19:11,840 --> 01:19:19,280a good one to support, it's a certified 501 C three. Uh, it's your, your, your support is tax139101:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,640deductible and it just goes, it means the world to the veterans and everybody that, that we help.139201:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,440So thank you. Yeah. I go support shred the stress. And also Aaron, I didn't mention this earlier. I139301:19:29,440 --> 01:19:35,600just, I just reminded myself happy birthday to the oblivion bar. Third birthday is tomorrow. So yes,139401:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,680yes. April 16th. So I have it on my calendar. Yep. It's our third birthday, our third birthday.139501:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,920We'll, we'll post about it tomorrow on Thursday, the third day. Yep. Yeah. So dog years we're 21139601:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,160or no, is it, is it, we'll be 21 years old tomorrow, right? Dog years. Yep. Every seven139701:19:52,160 --> 01:19:59,520years. Yeah. So happy birthday to us. One, you know, 115 episodes later, uh, 80 episodes of the139801:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,320grid where to keep chugging along, keep it going. We're going to keep on keeping on. That's right.139901:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,720Thank you guys so much for listening to the oblivion bar podcast. We, we really do appreciate140001:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,520it. And we will see you next week for episode one 16.