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News and Notes (6:09)

For episode 115, Aaron and Chris discuss a new comic book publisher, DSTLRY, shoots to innovate in the way that comics publishers treat creators and readers, Netflix is reportedly developing an American remake of SQUID GAME, and we got our first trailer for Marvel Studios' THE MARVELS.

Main Topic (33:03)

For our main topic, we review the latest horror-comedy from Chris McKay: RENFIELD!

R.M. Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's prey and do his every bidding. However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow of the Prince of Darkness.

Aaron’s Arcade (1:07:32)

Chris’ Corner (1:12:55)

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100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:01,040Hey, I'm Jake.200:00:01,040 --> 00:00:02,080And I'm Jesus.300:00:02,080 --> 00:00:04,480And we are the hosts of Spec Tales.400:00:04,480 --> 00:00:07,040And you're listening to the Oblivion Bar podcast.500:00:07,040 --> 00:00:35,200Welcome to the Oblivion Bar podcast with your hosts, Chris Hacker and Aaron Knowles.600:00:35,200 --> 00:00:35,920Hello, everyone.700:00:35,920 --> 00:00:40,880Welcome to episode 115 of the Oblivion Bar podcast, the official podcast of the Fantasy800:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,720Shop in St. Charles, Missouri.900:00:42,720 --> 00:00:43,520I am Chris Hacker.1000:00:43,520 --> 00:00:44,480I'm one of your co-hosts here.1100:00:44,480 --> 00:00:48,640And joining me this week is my BFF and familiar Aaron Knowles.1200:00:48,640 --> 00:00:53,280You know, when something crazy happens and someone's like, it's OK, I've seen way worse.1300:00:54,080 --> 00:00:56,480Everything I saw today is going to be my way worse.1400:00:58,560 --> 00:01:01,280You know, it's funny is that is from OK, everybody.1500:01:01,280 --> 00:01:02,720We're talking about Renfield today.1600:01:02,720 --> 00:01:03,600That's from Aquafina.1700:01:03,600 --> 00:01:07,280And I think if I remember correctly, we talked about Shang-Chi, you have a very particular1800:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,200view on Aquafina.1900:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,560You're not really a giant fan.2000:01:10,560 --> 00:01:11,040Is that correct?2100:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,280Or my did I is that like Mandela effect?2200:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,760Did I just like assume that I think you're just assuming that.2300:01:15,760 --> 00:01:17,120But it's also kind of true.2400:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,840I was going to say I'm almost positive.2500:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,840I've heard you say at some point in our friendship, you don't really like you can't2600:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,520stand Aquafina for some reason.2700:01:25,520 --> 00:01:28,000But actually, I kind of get it after seeing this.2800:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,520Like, I kind of get it a little bit.2900:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,440We'll get into that here in just a bit, everybody.3000:01:33,440 --> 00:01:34,560Welcome to the Aquafina Bar Podcast.3100:01:34,560 --> 00:01:35,920He fucking hates you.3200:01:35,920 --> 00:01:36,880And I kind of get it.3300:01:39,840 --> 00:01:40,640Oh, man.3400:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,320Like we said, we are talking about Renfield.3500:01:42,320 --> 00:01:46,480This is a movie that talking about our most anticipated films of 2023.3600:01:46,480 --> 00:01:50,240This is a film that we were, I would say, pretty excited about, but one that we're3700:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,200probably not going to cover here on the show.3800:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,320We were just going to see it individually and just talk about it within our personal3900:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,240lives, maybe on the grid or something.4000:01:58,240 --> 00:02:03,040But schedules made it to where we were like, you know what, let's cut this one for us.4100:02:03,040 --> 00:02:05,280You know, sometimes you got to do one for the boys.4200:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,120And Renfield is that for us.4300:02:07,120 --> 00:02:07,920We wanted to cover this.4400:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,120Do it for your balls.4500:02:10,480 --> 00:02:11,200I don't know what.4600:02:11,200 --> 00:02:11,440What?4700:02:11,440 --> 00:02:11,920I don't know.4800:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,320I don't know.4900:02:12,320 --> 00:02:13,840Welcome to the Oblivion Bar Podcast.5000:02:14,640 --> 00:02:15,600We're on Patreon.5100:02:16,160 --> 00:02:16,560Yeah.5200:02:16,560 --> 00:02:16,960Yeah.5300:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,000You want to talk about your balls?5400:02:18,000 --> 00:02:20,000Go to patreon.com forward slash Oblivion Bar Podcast.5500:02:20,000 --> 00:02:24,240That's where you can hear about our balls is on the grid, which if you don't know,5600:02:24,240 --> 00:02:24,800now you know.5700:02:25,360 --> 00:02:26,720We save all of our ball talk.5800:02:26,720 --> 00:02:27,280Yes.5900:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,120Yes. I got a funny story.6000:02:29,120 --> 00:02:30,560Can I tell you a funny story real quick?6100:02:31,360 --> 00:02:31,760Go ahead.6200:02:31,760 --> 00:02:32,240Okay.6300:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,640So one time, this is, you know, if you don't know already, if you're new to the show,6400:02:36,640 --> 00:02:39,760even if you're not new, you know that Chris and I were both in the army.6500:02:39,760 --> 00:02:40,480Okay.6600:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,120And things are a little bit different in the army.6700:02:43,840 --> 00:02:44,320Okay.6800:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,960You can talk about it when I was in compared.6900:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,760You mean just like in general or from when I was in both.7000:02:51,360 --> 00:02:51,760Got it.7100:02:51,760 --> 00:02:52,960Different, different worlds.7200:02:52,960 --> 00:03:02,320So during my second deployment, which was, I want to say 2006, 2005, no, 2006, like 2007.7300:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,000Anyways, so I'm in Iraq.7400:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760We're in the motor pool, which is where we stage all of our vehicles, all of our trucks,7500:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,320because Chris and I were both 88 mics, right?7600:03:10,320 --> 00:03:10,880No, no, no.7700:03:10,880 --> 00:03:11,440You were a golf.7800:03:11,440 --> 00:03:13,040No, I was a 92 Fox.7900:03:13,040 --> 00:03:13,600But a Fox.8000:03:13,600 --> 00:03:14,240Yeah, he was a fuel.8100:03:14,240 --> 00:03:16,320So we both dealt with the same thing.8200:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,360They're essentially the same thing.8300:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,840Um, you got to drive the truck with the gas on the back of it.8400:03:19,840 --> 00:03:21,040He's a fucking idiot, Mike.8500:03:21,040 --> 00:03:21,840So don't let him fool you.8600:03:21,840 --> 00:03:23,200I'm an 88 Mike that gives out gas.8700:03:23,200 --> 00:03:23,440Yes.8800:03:23,440 --> 00:03:23,760Sometimes.8900:03:23,760 --> 00:03:24,240Yes.9000:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,680So we're in the motor pool and I just remember, I don't know how the discussion,9100:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,320I can't tell you anything surrounding this conversation.9200:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800I just remember describing my balls as dog balls because they hang down very low.9300:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,120And it was just a funny conversation that I was having with some people in the,9400:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,560in the motor pool.9500:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,280And you know that you can like, that's army for you.9600:03:43,280 --> 00:03:43,840Armily.9700:03:43,840 --> 00:03:44,320Right, Chris?9800:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,880You can talk about almost whatever the fuck you want.9900:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800And like people don't really care.10000:03:48,800 --> 00:03:49,680The filter is gone.10100:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,680The filter is gone because you literally.10200:03:51,680 --> 00:03:52,640You suck.10300:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,800Everything sucks and you suck together.10400:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,360And so you embrace the suck as they call you embrace the suck.10500:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960And so you just kind of get down to that nitty gritty of life and you can just talk about10600:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,080anything anyways.10700:04:02,080 --> 00:04:05,040So I'm just in there talking to him like, oh yeah, I got like dog balls because they10800:04:05,040 --> 00:04:10,800hang down so low and out of nowhere from like around the corner, like my platoon sergeant,10900:04:10,800 --> 00:04:15,120who's like our main supervisor, he goes, what the fuck are you talking about?11000:04:15,120 --> 00:04:16,640You can't be saying shit like that.11100:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,480So basically I ended up doing pushups for the entire rest of that day.11200:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,640I don't know why I'm talking about this, but anyways, join us on patreon.com forward slash11300:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,280oblivion bar pot where you can hear more talk like that.11400:04:27,280 --> 00:04:28,240You want more ball talk?11500:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,360Go to the oblivion.11600:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,480I get where I was going with that.11700:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,000There's on the grid.11800:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,040There's no filter.11900:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,680It's that's right.12000:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,240It's formula free.12100:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,600That's just a little taste, a little teaser of all teaser.12200:04:39,600 --> 00:04:40,100Okay.12300:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,200So patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar.12400:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,040God, we're going to lose so many viewers over that story.12500:04:45,040 --> 00:04:45,920They've already turned it off.12600:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,360They've already turned the episode off.12700:04:47,360 --> 00:04:48,320I'm so sorry.12800:04:48,320 --> 00:04:50,160You can, you can edit all of that out.12900:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360Now, we're keeping it in for your contribution over at patreon.13000:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,560You can have access to the grid, which is basically the last five minutes.13100:04:56,560 --> 00:04:57,040Ball talk.13200:04:59,280 --> 00:04:59,840It's our page.13300:05:01,280 --> 00:05:05,040If you're not talking about Aaron's balls, we're talking about my ass, which is colon,13400:05:05,040 --> 00:05:06,320colon talk or CGC.13500:05:07,360 --> 00:05:12,240Our exclusive weekly podcast strictly Aaron's balls, my ass and CGC comics.13600:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,240That's a weird kink.13700:05:14,960 --> 00:05:15,440And true.13800:05:15,440 --> 00:05:21,280X you also get access to episode transcripts, early access to these episodes.13900:05:21,280 --> 00:05:24,080And you get a special shout out at the end of each oblivion bar episode.14000:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,320Like you'll hear later on, which I do.14100:05:26,320 --> 00:05:31,200And I love doing, um, once again, patreon.com forward slash oblivion bar pod.14200:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,560Check us out again.14300:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,080Everything that we get through Patreon goes back into the show to make the show even better.14400:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,480And we appreciate your support, honestly, like no, all jokes aside, we very much appreciate14500:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,400everybody's support that we've gotten so far.14600:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,160And it meets the world of us.14700:05:44,160 --> 00:05:48,080It means, you know, it just, it really helps us make this show better.14800:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,400And it really is from go back and listen.14900:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,560That don't don't go back and listen to episode one, uh, but just know that it's better.15000:05:54,560 --> 00:05:55,040Okay.15100:05:55,040 --> 00:05:55,840Yeah, absolutely.15200:05:55,840 --> 00:06:00,000It has gotten definitely much better since episode one, both of the oblivion bar and of15300:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,680the grid, both we've gotten significantly, we've streamlined this stuff.15400:06:03,680 --> 00:06:08,160So, uh, without it, without further ado, and hopefully no more ball talk, let's go15500:06:08,160 --> 00:06:09,440ahead and get into our using notes.15600:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,480News and notes.15700:06:16,000 --> 00:06:16,720All righty.15800:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,280Our news and notes this week is sponsored by what not what not to buy or sell comics,15900:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,680Funko pops, trading cards, or even shoes.16000:06:23,680 --> 00:06:24,960What not has you covered?16100:06:24,960 --> 00:06:29,360You can download what not any iOS or Android device, and please use our referral link in16200:06:29,360 --> 00:06:32,080our show notes to get $15 upon signup.16300:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,240That's free money from us to you.16400:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,000If you just go to our show notes here and, uh, click on the link below.16500:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,800Our show notes here and I click that link there for what not and, uh, what not buy,16600:06:42,800 --> 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00:07:09,360And so they had this musical like show.18200:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,080I don't know what it's called cause I'm fucking German, but, um, it was the song and it was18300:07:14,080 --> 00:07:15,840talking, it was about this soccer.18400:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,480This is this, uh, cow that lost his soccer shoe.18500:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,760He can only find one of them and he was a rather small cow.18600:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,600So, uh, decline a coup has I didn't foosball shoe.18700:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,200Okay.18800:07:29,200 --> 00:07:33,360And the song declined a coup, declined a coup has I didn't, I didn't foosball shoe.18900:07:33,360 --> 00:07:34,320That's how you remember that?19000:07:34,320 --> 00:07:34,960Yeah.19100:07:34,960 --> 00:07:35,520Okay.19200:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,360Everyone at home listening right now, Aaron is going to keep trying his absolute best19300:07:39,360 --> 00:07:43,840to just divert every single conversation we have into another topic.19400:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,960So just bear with us.19500:07:45,600 --> 00:07:47,760I will be your, I'll be your huckleberry.19600:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,520I will keep us on track, but Aaron will keep giving us small lessons in German and19700:07:51,520 --> 00:07:53,440ball talk throughout the show.19800:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,480And I can tell that Chris is being passive aggressive right now.19900:07:57,440 --> 00:07:58,880Is it coming through the show?20000:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,520Can people hear that on the other, please let us know.20100:08:01,520 --> 00:08:02,800Oblivion bar podcast.20200:08:02,800 --> 00:08:06,320I don't think you know how that is.20300:08:06,320 --> 00:08:07,360No, I love it.20400:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,160It's so hurtful.20500:08:08,160 --> 00:08:10,400Your past is very genuine.20600:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,200I love, I love the ball talk and I love learning German.20700:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,600You're so sarcastic and it's hurtful.20800:08:15,600 --> 00:08:17,520Is the sarcasm not helping the passive aggressive?20900:08:17,520 --> 00:08:18,320It's not.21000:08:18,320 --> 00:08:18,720It's not.21100:08:18,720 --> 00:08:19,200Okay.21200:08:19,200 --> 00:08:24,080Let's get into, we'll talk more about our toxic relationship later on during our regular21300:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,360review, but before that, let's go ahead and talk about new comic publishers because21400:08:28,960 --> 00:08:32,000Go to the comic book couples counseling show and have them help us.21500:08:32,000 --> 00:08:32,880Brad, Lisa help.21600:08:34,880 --> 00:08:40,080We have a brand new comic publisher distillery which shoots to innovate in the way that comics21700:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240in the way that comic publishers treat comic creators and the readers.21800:08:44,240 --> 00:08:48,560So the team behind Comixology Originals, David Sternberger and Chip Mosher are back as21900:08:48,560 --> 00:08:50,960co-founders of a brand new comic publisher distillery.22000:08:50,960 --> 00:08:55,440The lineup of creators or quote unquote founders of this new publisher are absolutely stacked.22100:08:55,440 --> 00:09:00,800Comic giants like James Tinian the fourth, Scott Snyder, Becky Klumman, Jock, Rom V,22200:09:00,800 --> 00:09:05,600Brian Azzarello, Joelle Jones, good friend of the show, Elsa Chardier, Stephanie Phillips,22300:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,280and Erin, one of your favorites, Mirka and Dolph are all some of the creators involved with this.22400:09:09,280 --> 00:09:12,880So you've probably saw this on social media over the last week.22500:09:12,880 --> 00:09:14,320All of these creators posted this.22600:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480It was all very ambiguous initially, but after looking it up and seeing what was actually22700:09:18,480 --> 00:09:23,600going on, distillery is essentially offering equity in the company and readers, a marketplace22800:09:23,600 --> 00:09:28,160for digital collectibles, a build as kind of like a stub hub of comics.22900:09:28,160 --> 00:09:32,320The creators will own all their IP and successful careers will even share in the equity of the23000:09:32,320 --> 00:09:38,720company via like a third, I guess like 3% pull set aside for other purposes and whatnot.23100:09:38,720 --> 00:09:43,040According to the New York Times launch article, distillery will launch officially at San Diego23200:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,360Comic-Con 2023 with the Devil's Cut, which is an anthology featuring basically all of those23300:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280founding creators that we were just talking about.23400:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,440So on their website here also Erin, it says creators will have their own work in a piece23500:09:53,440 --> 00:09:55,040of distillery within itself.23600:09:55,040 --> 00:10:00,400So they will bring it premium oversized limited edition, single issues, premium limited edition23700:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,720merch, physical and digital.23800:10:02,720 --> 00:10:07,760And it says here you buy, you own, you can sell any of this stuff also on the aftermarket.23900:10:07,760 --> 00:10:09,360I think they're kind of hoping for that.24000:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,200Creators get a cut every single time.24100:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,520There's no NFT hustle or crypto hassle.24200:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,600So Erin, we talked about this a little bit before the show here, kind of discussing what24300:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,720this is because, you know, there's already a company in the comic world that gives creators24400:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,000100% of their creations.24500:10:24,000 --> 00:10:25,280It's called Image Comics.24600:10:25,280 --> 00:10:30,080A lot of people, a lot of comic fans and people within the medium have said that the next24700:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,240era of comics, because right now we're currently in what's called the modern age of comics.24800:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,440Yeah, Silver Age, Bronze Age, Silver Age, Modern.24900:10:38,000 --> 00:10:42,720Some people have said the next stage will be the image era, which is basically creators25000:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,240finally getting control of their own IP.25100:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,640That seems to be the idea behind distillery.25200:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,320But, and we kind of divulged this a little bit, like I said, before the show, we think25300:10:52,320 --> 00:10:57,360distillery is trying to add a type of Mondo spin to this, which is, you know, they'll25400:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,160say Scott Snyder has a brand new series out.25500:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,760It's him and Elsa Chardier.25600:11:01,760 --> 00:11:07,680It's a four issue mini series on Friday at noon Eastern time.25700:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,920We're going to release the single issues.25800:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,640We're going to release three variants, 50 of one variant, 25 of one and 10 of another25900:11:14,640 --> 00:11:17,200plus t-shirts, pens, whatever other kind of merch they have.26000:11:17,760 --> 00:11:18,640Go get it.26100:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,760And it'll be for an affordable price, but you have to be clicking the same way you do26200:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,120when you buy like a Mondo poster.26300:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,640So interesting idea.26400:11:24,640 --> 00:11:29,280What are your thoughts here with distillery and kind of again, a Mondo type of business26500:11:29,280 --> 00:11:30,880model in the comic world?26600:11:30,880 --> 00:11:36,080I think that this is a great invention, a great idea to throw into the community.26700:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,400As long as it continues to be tangible.26800:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,400One thing I'm just never a fan of is that are things like NFTs.26900:11:42,400 --> 00:11:42,900Okay.27000:11:43,760 --> 00:11:45,040Am I a fan of drops?27100:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,120Am I a fan of very limited supply?27200:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,000Not necessarily.27300:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,920I think that if there's something available that you want to get, then great.27400:11:53,920 --> 00:12:00,400As long as so, so I guess to sum up what I'm, what I'm trying to say, I like the idea as27500:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,760long as there's still accessible, it's still accessible.27600:12:04,720 --> 00:12:09,920Whether it's digital and just the physical portion are, is what distillery drops.27700:12:09,920 --> 00:12:10,960I get that.27800:12:10,960 --> 00:12:18,000It's a great maneuver for the creator owned industry to make money, to drive interest27900:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,000into specific, in a specific industry.28000:12:20,000 --> 00:12:24,240They do it with shoes, a model did it with posters, whatnot does it on their app with28100:12:24,240 --> 00:12:24,880a lot of things.28200:12:24,880 --> 00:12:26,960You know, I like the idea behind it.28300:12:26,960 --> 00:12:32,240What I just don't like is like, is if I see something that I very much want and I'm forced28400:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,000to go to the aftermarket to get it, that's probably going to happen.28500:12:36,000 --> 00:12:40,000Unfortunately, I know, I know it's going to happen and I'm not, that's, that's the port.28600:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,400That's the backside of it that I'm not happy about it.28700:12:42,400 --> 00:12:47,440Do I love the fact that creators are getting their own space, their own ability, their own,28800:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,920their, their remaining with that ownership of their IPs.28900:12:51,920 --> 00:12:53,840I love that for the creators.29000:12:53,840 --> 00:12:58,560What sucks though, is the fact that in order to make this a success, you have to limit29100:12:58,560 --> 00:13:00,080what's accessible to everybody.29200:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,360And I get it, but in a, here's, here's, I guess, I don't mean to drag on too much about this,29300:13:07,360 --> 00:13:12,400but there are too many people out there with access to ways of like scalping these items.29400:13:12,400 --> 00:13:13,280Or bots even.29500:13:13,280 --> 00:13:13,840Bots.29600:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,320Yeah.29700:13:14,320 --> 00:13:15,760So they use bots.29800:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,280Nobody gets a chance to buy them.29900:13:17,280 --> 00:13:18,960They're sold out, they're gone.30000:13:18,960 --> 00:13:25,520And now I have to go pay three times the, the, the MSRP because some asshole is, is able to use,30100:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,520like there's gotta be a different way.30200:13:27,520 --> 00:13:32,720So I think what the main idea, and I agree with you with everything that you just said there30300:13:32,720 --> 00:13:38,800is the, what distillery wants to do here is they want to give fans the option to gain30400:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,360or to buy more exclusive things.30500:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,520And the creator gets that right.30600:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,400Like a lot of times what happens at cons or say like a single issue comes out and it's30700:13:48,400 --> 00:13:52,800got like our first appearance or a variant comic creators do not see any money from variants.30800:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,200Right.30900:13:53,200 --> 00:13:54,400That is that's Marvel.31000:13:54,400 --> 00:13:55,040That's DC.31100:13:55,040 --> 00:13:55,840That's boom studios.31200:13:55,840 --> 00:13:56,560That's image comics.31300:13:56,560 --> 00:13:57,680They get all that money.31400:13:57,680 --> 00:14:01,520I think what distillery is trying to do is they're trying to put the money in the creator's hands.31500:14:01,520 --> 00:14:07,760So if Scott Snyder or Elsa Chardier create a new series, all the money that's made from31600:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,400these exclusives goes right to the creator.31700:14:10,400 --> 00:14:15,760It is going to be a situation where there's going to be a very limited variant or very31800:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,960limited piece of merch.31900:14:16,960 --> 00:14:17,520That's fine.32000:14:17,520 --> 00:14:21,840As long as it's just the variant, as long as like, because I think the normal series32100:14:21,840 --> 00:14:23,280is going to be available.32200:14:23,280 --> 00:14:23,520Yeah.32300:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,560Exclusive stuff.32400:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,040Good.32500:14:25,040 --> 00:14:25,920Because that's what I'm saying.32600:14:25,920 --> 00:14:30,880That's what I was worried about because like I see what not stuff in my comic shop.32700:14:31,440 --> 00:14:39,600I see publishers that do limited access of variants in my comic shop, which I'm glad to see.32800:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,560Those are publishing houses that still cater to the everyday person, to the everyday Joe.32900:14:44,560 --> 00:14:49,840What I don't want is a limitation on the entire supply.33000:14:49,840 --> 00:14:50,160Right.33100:14:50,160 --> 00:14:51,040Like a bad idea.33200:14:51,040 --> 00:14:52,160Have you heard a bad idea?33300:14:52,160 --> 00:14:53,440Yeah, that was a bad idea.33400:14:53,440 --> 00:14:53,760Now they're gone.33500:14:53,760 --> 00:14:54,560It was a bad idea.33600:14:54,560 --> 00:14:59,440I think that they are completely poking fun at the comic medium, making everything33700:14:59,440 --> 00:15:04,400extremely exclusive, no digital comics, like having zero access to their work.33800:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,440Didn't they have like a completely like clear comic book?33900:15:07,440 --> 00:15:09,120Yeah, they sold invisible comic.34000:15:09,120 --> 00:15:09,600Yeah.34100:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,680Then CGC created it because it's a gimmick.34200:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,120That's a it's a joke to them.34300:15:13,120 --> 00:15:17,760And I understand the impulse to like poke fun at the industry because it is some parts of it34400:15:17,760 --> 00:15:21,200are very silly and like collecting in general is kind of a silly idea.34500:15:21,200 --> 00:15:24,800As someone who's a giant collector of a lot of things, I tell you that it's just hoarding.34600:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,000Clear your shoulder.34700:15:26,640 --> 00:15:27,280Exactly.34800:15:27,280 --> 00:15:31,440Everyone behind me, you can't see it, but I've got over 1200 graphic novels behind me,34900:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,280plus statues and other things.35000:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,640So yeah, the idea is silly and bad ideas making fun of that.35100:15:36,640 --> 00:15:43,360I think the story will give fans the option to buy more exclusive things and the creators35200:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,400will get all of it.35300:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,280But the worry, as always, like you said, is scalpers, bots, people that are going to buy35400:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,760this stuff strictly to sell it in the aftermarket will have access to this stuff and the real35500:15:53,760 --> 00:15:54,960fans will have none of it.35600:15:54,960 --> 00:15:59,200Again, because like I when I was at Megacon in Orlando, like I got in line, luckily,35700:15:59,920 --> 00:16:05,040with enough time to buy some of the fan expo exclusive variants for Megacon.35800:16:05,040 --> 00:16:05,360Yeah.35900:16:05,360 --> 00:16:12,320And when I was in line, all I saw was just guys coming back and grabbing more like just36000:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,400stacks of the exclusives.36100:16:14,400 --> 00:16:16,640And like within an hour, they were all gone.36200:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,760And it's like, I know people that were trying to go for those and it's just, it sucks because,36300:16:21,760 --> 00:16:26,560and then I find out from the guy who was managing the convention that the people selling the comics36400:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,040were only supposed to let people buy one each.36500:16:29,040 --> 00:16:29,680Yeah.36600:16:29,680 --> 00:16:34,080And it's like, you need to make sure that your staff knows this before you put them in charge,36700:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,320because it clearly wasn't happening.36800:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,800Collecting is a dirty game, especially exclusives like con convention exclusives and things36900:16:40,800 --> 00:16:41,200like that.37000:16:41,200 --> 00:16:44,400Like if you know the right people and you're and you're getting a little something, something37100:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,920on the side, you know, being at these conventions, I can tell you, I've seen a lot of gross stuff37200:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,600and it's unfortunately a part of it.37300:16:49,600 --> 00:16:54,000But, you know, you just hopefully as a fan, you were able to just gain access to some of37400:16:54,000 --> 00:16:54,400that stuff.37500:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,320So, yeah, let's go.37600:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,160Yeah, let's go ahead and get to our next piece of news here.37700:16:58,160 --> 00:16:58,400Yeah.37800:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,560So Netflix is reportedly developing.37900:17:01,520 --> 00:17:02,560Fuck this news, man.38000:17:02,560 --> 00:17:05,840An American remake of Squid Game.38100:17:06,560 --> 00:17:06,800Yeah.38200:17:07,680 --> 00:17:08,000Why?38300:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,280I honestly don't even want to read.38400:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,440Okay.38500:17:11,440 --> 00:17:15,200So my reaction was the same thing because it's like why oversaturate something that38600:17:15,200 --> 00:17:16,960is already like extremely popular.38700:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,760But the news does kind of make sense.38800:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,080Let's get into this and let's see how you feel after we talk about a little bit.38900:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,520So Squid Game was one of the biggest shows that Netflix obviously has ever released.39000:17:25,520 --> 00:17:26,240It was huge.39100:17:26,240 --> 00:17:27,600Mass streamed all time.39200:17:27,600 --> 00:17:28,400Most streamed.39300:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,960And with season two in the works with creator,39400:17:30,960 --> 00:17:35,040Xiang Ji Hong, the series hasn't really been in the news recently.39500:17:35,040 --> 00:17:39,760Jeff Snyder's The Hot Mic podcast revealed last week that Netflix is in the process39600:17:39,760 --> 00:17:44,320of developing a remake of Squid Game and they want David Fincher to produce the series.39700:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,480Rumor has it that the series would not be a direct remake, but instead a new series of39800:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,960Squid Games, but just set in America in the same universe.39900:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,880Netflix has not confirmed that this American remake is in the works.40000:17:56,880 --> 00:18:02,400I swear to God, like I hope this is a fucking lie because I'm so I think I'm cursing more40100:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,320this episode and then we've ever done before.40200:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,000So I apologize if this is offending anybody.40300:18:06,000 --> 00:18:06,960I'll try and stop.40400:18:06,960 --> 00:18:12,320I hope this is not the case only because like I am very tired of them.40500:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,360This is basically them whitewashing a series.40600:18:15,360 --> 00:18:20,320But I mean, let's be honest, they're taking an idea from from somewhere else in the world40700:18:20,320 --> 00:18:24,320and and just basically catering and pandering to white America.40800:18:24,320 --> 00:18:28,240And obviously in this case, it didn't matter.40900:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,200It wasn't.41000:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,240It's not needed.41100:18:30,240 --> 00:18:32,240It's the most stream show ever.41200:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800That means the original was fine.41300:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,760If it was unknown, like there's a movie.41400:18:37,760 --> 00:18:41,040I want to say it's Japanese.41500:18:41,040 --> 00:18:46,320It's called Oldboy and Josh Brolin starred in the American remake.41600:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,920I never saw the American remake, but I know that there was some insane twists in the41700:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,480original that I feel like they probably couldn't have done.41800:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,640And if they did do it in the in the remake, good for them.41900:18:58,640 --> 00:19:01,200But again, that was unnecessary.42000:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,880Like there are certain things that are just so unnecessary.42100:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,920Isn't that what generally happens to with these remakes is they always dull it down42200:19:07,920 --> 00:19:08,400a little bit.42300:19:08,400 --> 00:19:11,120They temper a lot of what makes it so special.42400:19:11,120 --> 00:19:14,400Like my my reaction, my first thought is always ghosts in a shell.42500:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,280Why?42600:19:15,920 --> 00:19:16,960Why did we do this?42700:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,080Why did we need a live action American version of that?42800:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,800So that actually, I mean, to be honest, like that wasn't necessarily an American version.42900:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,240I mean, it was just OK.43000:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,280Let me let me explain something to a lot of people that were really upset about Ghost43100:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,080in the Shell.43200:19:30,080 --> 00:19:35,680Ghost in the Shell did not whitewash major Ghost in the Shell, the original anime made43300:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,840her culturally ambiguous because she was a cyborg.43400:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,520She was not Japanese when she had the robot body.43500:19:43,520 --> 00:19:49,280OK, you're not going to replace a soldier's destroyed body and make them a super secret43600:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,400robot cyborg agent and give them the same body.43700:19:52,400 --> 00:19:58,000So all the people that were upset about the Ghost in the Shell movie with Scarlett Johansson,43800:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,920go check your facts.43900:19:59,920 --> 00:20:01,120OK, go touch some grass.44000:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,480I'm just saying.44100:20:02,480 --> 00:20:05,280But like I do understand that it's horrible.44200:20:05,280 --> 00:20:06,400I'm just saying they did.44300:20:06,400 --> 00:20:07,360They did dull it down.44400:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,600I will say like that, but it was still I mean, it was still cool.44500:20:09,600 --> 00:20:15,200But that was one of those that was one of those movies that they completely overshadowed44600:20:15,200 --> 00:20:21,520with a quote unquote racist agenda because they made an American woman star of a Japanese44700:20:21,520 --> 00:20:22,240anime.44800:20:22,240 --> 00:20:22,560Sure.44900:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,760Like remake or I guess or adaptation.45000:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,320So well, just to kind of get back to this good games, too, like I'm like when I first like45100:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,160I said, when I saw the headline, I was like, OK, why?45200:20:32,160 --> 00:20:32,560Why?45300:20:32,560 --> 00:20:34,000We haven't even gotten a season two yet.45400:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,920Season one just came out last year.45500:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,480So why are we going back to the well immediately?45600:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,920Netflix, what are we doing here?45700:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,280We're not out of ideas yet, right?45800:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,720We can't be out of ideas.45900:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,600But when it says here that it's not a direct remake, it's instead it's a separate squid46000:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,840games just set in America in the same universe.46100:20:49,840 --> 00:20:51,440That kind of changed things slightly for me.46200:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,680I'm not like excited about it, but it does a little bit.46300:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,520But I swear to God, if Mr. Beast is in this, I'm going to be fucking upset.46400:20:57,520 --> 00:20:58,640Got some tick talkers in there.46500:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,880We got, you know, Haley Bieber.46600:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,800They probably I'm not joking.46700:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,760They probably will.46800:21:03,760 --> 00:21:08,000They probably will take the contestants and it'll be like influence.46900:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,840So it'll be influencers.47000:21:09,840 --> 00:21:10,240Yeah.47100:21:10,240 --> 00:21:14,880But can you imagine Jack Black playing, you know, red light, green light?47200:21:14,880 --> 00:21:15,600I'm OK.47300:21:15,600 --> 00:21:16,880I would be OK with Jack Black.47400:21:16,880 --> 00:21:17,920I'm part of a generation.47500:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,000And so are you of the Jack Black and as many things as you can.47600:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,880But don't go.47700:21:22,880 --> 00:21:23,680But just don't kill him.47800:21:23,680 --> 00:21:24,400Why would you kill him?47900:21:24,400 --> 00:21:25,520That's silly.48000:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,760But yeah, now, like I said, I'm on the fence about this a little bit, but I'm well.48100:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,520If it ends up becoming true, I'm interested just to kind of see what if it's David Fincher,48200:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,320Aaron, you know that David Fincher is my favorite director of all time.48300:21:36,320 --> 00:21:38,880So if David Fincher is involved, I'm in.48400:21:38,880 --> 00:21:40,080Like you have my money.48500:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,080I mean, Netflix already has my money every month.48600:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,480But like I'm going to see this if David Fincher is involved.48700:21:44,480 --> 00:21:44,960Yeah.48800:21:44,960 --> 00:21:45,520Yeah.48900:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,640I'm still going to watch it.49000:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,720I'm not going to like I'm not going to lie.49100:21:48,720 --> 00:21:49,360I'm not over.49200:21:49,360 --> 00:21:51,120Are we going to get a squid games universe?49300:21:51,120 --> 00:21:53,520The squid squid verse is SGU.49400:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,020Yeah.49500:21:56,080 --> 00:21:56,480All right.49600:21:56,480 --> 00:21:57,840Let's get into our last bit of news here.49700:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,120We got our first trailer for Marvel Studios, the Marvels.49800:22:01,120 --> 00:22:02,960So it's been a while since we've seen Captain Marvel,49900:22:02,960 --> 00:22:03,280a.k.a.50000:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,880Carol Danvers on the big screen.50100:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,600Her last cinematic experience was at the end credit scenes of Shang50200:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings, although we did also see her in the50300:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,200final episode of Disney Plus's Miss Marvel.50400:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,160Since then, Captain Marvel's the Captain Marvel story has gotten a lot bigger50500:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120outside of the main films with one division introducing us to a grown up50600:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,560version of Monica Rambeau getting her powers, getting her own powers.50700:22:22,560 --> 00:22:26,880We also recently met Captain Marvel super fan Kamala Khan, who also became a50800:22:26,880 --> 00:22:30,160hero herself in the Miss Marvel Disney Plus series.50900:22:30,160 --> 00:22:34,400Now, all three of these beloved characters will be uniting for the Marvels,51000:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,880the official sequel to 2019's Captain Marvel,51100:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,920which will see these three heroes team up to stop a new cosmic threat.51200:22:39,920 --> 00:22:40,640Are we a team?51300:22:42,320 --> 00:22:45,680Come on, like I'm in Volanias, come on, like on is still I love her.51400:22:45,680 --> 00:22:48,320Like I don't think we ever reviewed Miss Marvel here on the show.51500:22:48,320 --> 00:22:48,800I don't think so.51600:22:49,520 --> 00:22:54,480I think it's probably top one or two favorite Disney Plus shows thus far.51700:22:54,480 --> 00:22:59,280Like it's it's probably Loki, She-Hulk, then Miss Marvel for me in terms of my51800:22:59,280 --> 00:23:00,160favorite Disney pluses.51900:23:00,160 --> 00:23:03,440I know that's kind of a hot take ish kind of, you know, take right there.52000:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,880But I love all three of those shows so much.52100:23:06,880 --> 00:23:08,160So yeah, I'm going to go.52200:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,360I'm going to go Loki, She-Hulk, Hawkeye.52300:23:11,360 --> 00:23:12,320OK, yeah.52400:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,520So if everyone goes back and listens to our episode with Sal from Comic Pop52500:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,960talking about phase four of the MCU, he actually had Hawkeye quite pretty high52600:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520on his list, too.52700:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,280I want to say it was like number two or three on his list.52800:23:21,280 --> 00:23:22,160So I get it.52900:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,960You know, I'm just not really like I liked it, but I didn't love it as much as53000:23:24,960 --> 00:23:25,440most people.53100:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,480So I just can't stand a like I can't give Miss Marvel like a higher rating53200:23:30,480 --> 00:23:36,160in my in my level of greatness because I cannot stand a series that does not53300:23:36,160 --> 00:23:37,200have a villain.53400:23:37,200 --> 00:23:37,840Yeah.53500:23:37,840 --> 00:23:38,880And this one did not.53600:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,680Well, quickly, what would you give Miss Marvel out of five David A.53700:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,160Winers?53800:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,840Just since we didn't cover it here on the show.53900:23:43,840 --> 00:23:44,560A three.54000:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,120You give it a three.54100:23:45,120 --> 00:23:46,720Yeah, I was going to give it a three point five.54200:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,160Like it's pretty good.54300:23:48,160 --> 00:23:49,760It's like Loki is probably a four.54400:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,320She-Hulk's probably like a three point five.54500:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,080Miss Marvel's probably like a three point five for me.54600:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,880Well, if you go back and listen to our she-hulk for you, because we did54700:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,280review that here on the show, I think I actually did give it a three point five.54800:23:59,280 --> 00:24:00,480So I should have given it a five.54900:24:01,600 --> 00:24:03,040But I'm kidding for different reasons.55000:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080So in the trailer here, we keep seeing the three heroes power swapping.55100:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,280You know what's going on here.55200:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,680We actually saw that in the Miss Marvel series as well.55300:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,360When Kamala uses her powers, all of a sudden, Carol Danvers burst into her55400:24:15,360 --> 00:24:16,320closet and wakes up.55500:24:16,320 --> 00:24:17,520It's like, what the hell is going on?55600:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,440Which I think we actually see in this trailer as well.55700:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440So we also see the return of Nick Fury, who will be fresh off the events of the55800:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,280Disney Plus series Secret Invasion and the events that go into the events of55900:24:27,280 --> 00:24:27,760this movie.56000:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,280So Parasite Star.56100:24:29,280 --> 00:24:30,320I'm going to say this wrong here.56200:24:30,320 --> 00:24:31,680Park Seo Jung.56300:24:32,320 --> 00:24:32,880Is that right?56400:24:33,520 --> 00:24:34,160June.56500:24:34,160 --> 00:24:34,960June.56600:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,120Yeah, I love Parasite, but I don't know if I said that correctly.56700:24:37,120 --> 00:24:41,360Whose mysterious character still remains just that can be seen leading a group of56800:24:41,360 --> 00:24:45,120warriors into a potentially big battle, followed by a followed by a hoard of56900:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,040what could be dozens of flirtkins, which is what Goose is in the show.57000:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,080Excuse me, in the movie, in the first movie, we do have a bit more info57100:24:52,080 --> 00:24:55,600regarding the film's potential big bad being played by a velvet bussoles.57200:24:55,600 --> 00:24:56,880I'm going to say this wrong again, too.57300:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,160Zowie Ashton.57400:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,000That's not about right.57500:25:00,000 --> 00:25:04,800Okay, we've known that Ashton could be playing a villain in the film following57600:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000her casting announcement, but her appearance in the trailer indicates that57700:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,320she has connection with a classic MCU big bad.57800:25:10,320 --> 00:25:13,840In the first brief scene, we see Ashton still unnamed character wielding a57900:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,840hammer, which, as we know from Guardians of the Galaxy, is called the Cosmo Rod.58000:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,200It looks remarkably close to the same hammer that's wielded by Ronan the58100:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,720Accuser, played by Lee Pace, who also showed up in the first Captain Marvel58200:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,680movie briefly and, you know, of course, is the main villain of the first58300:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,000Guardians of the Galaxy film with the Power Stone.58400:25:30,560 --> 00:25:36,320So the Marvels, of course, will be releasing in theaters on November 10th, 2023.58500:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,600Aaron, when this late again, when you excuse me, when this was first58600:25:41,600 --> 00:25:44,240premiered, you actually texted me and said you thought this looked pretty good.58700:25:44,240 --> 00:25:44,960Do you stand by this?58800:25:44,960 --> 00:25:46,160Do you still think it looks pretty good?58900:25:46,160 --> 00:25:46,800Yeah, I do.59000:25:46,800 --> 00:25:51,440I'm I'm fairly excited for this, which I did not expect.59100:25:51,440 --> 00:25:54,240Yeah, you're a notorious hater of the first movie.59200:25:54,240 --> 00:25:55,280I'm not saying you're a hater.59300:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,440I'm just saying you don't like the first movie, right?59400:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,640Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.59500:25:58,640 --> 00:25:59,440I'll go with that.59600:25:59,440 --> 00:26:00,640He is not a hater, everybody.59700:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,160He likes powerful women.59800:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,680Okay. He is not an incel.59900:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,040He just didn't like the movie.60000:26:05,040 --> 00:26:05,680All right.60100:26:05,680 --> 00:26:10,240I gave very specific reasons for not liking Captain Marvel.60200:26:10,240 --> 00:26:15,200Okay. It was it felt like, again, Captain Marvel felt like it was an60300:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,760afterthought when it came to the MCU.60400:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,000Yeah.60500:26:18,000 --> 00:26:20,080Smushed between Infinity War and Endgame.60600:26:20,080 --> 00:26:20,240Yeah.60700:26:20,240 --> 00:26:20,480Yeah.60800:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,280It's like we had to figure out who Captain Marvel was before she showed up.60900:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,040Oh, shit, we forgot to do a Captain Marvel movie.61000:26:26,000 --> 00:26:28,480Yeah, this was definitely like a phase two movie that came out in phase.61100:26:28,480 --> 00:26:28,880Yeah.61200:26:28,880 --> 00:26:33,600So had it been released earlier, probably would have enjoyed it a bit more, but we didn't get it.61300:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200So yeah, I'm excited for this.61400:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,160A, I love Kamala Khan.61500:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,400I love I love Milani.61600:26:40,400 --> 00:26:41,360Is there what I'm in?61700:26:41,360 --> 00:26:41,760Milani.61800:26:41,760 --> 00:26:42,320Yeah, I am in.61900:26:42,320 --> 00:26:50,480I love what she's she for some reason like her her genuineness when it comes to being a super fan62000:26:50,480 --> 00:26:55,040of Captain Marvel and then the seriousness of Monica Rambeau.62100:26:55,600 --> 00:27:01,200I'm just I'm excited for the how they all kind of like interact and that they do need to team up.62200:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,880So there's like there is a lot to this.62300:27:02,880 --> 00:27:08,960The movie looks really cool, looks really action packed again with a with a return of Nick Fury62400:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,600after the Secret Wars like I just.62500:27:11,600 --> 00:27:12,400Invasion.62600:27:12,400 --> 00:27:13,760So excuse me, Secret Invasion.62700:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,440Secret Wars was who?62800:27:15,440 --> 00:27:16,560The Secret Wars is a lot.62900:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,760We got a couple of years for Secret Wars.63000:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,800Remember, that's the first.63100:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,400That's the second movie.63200:27:20,400 --> 00:27:24,320That's the second Avengers movie between after we get the King Dynasty, then it's Secret Wars.63300:27:24,320 --> 00:27:24,720Right.63400:27:24,720 --> 00:27:25,760So Secret Invasion.63500:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,800I'm just excited to see how this plays out.63600:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,480I really I want them to give more to Captain Marvel.63700:27:34,480 --> 00:27:38,400I want them to redeem what her character has already been put through63800:27:39,120 --> 00:27:41,840as far as the her reception into the MCU.63900:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,600So I am excited for that to go.64000:27:43,600 --> 00:27:48,480And Monica Rambeau, just I'm excited because of after seeing her on WandaVision.64100:27:48,480 --> 00:27:53,680I think that she is and then also they had somebody else play64200:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,600photon or Captain Marvel, like Captain Marvel, the black version, Captain Marvel in in.64300:28:00,720 --> 00:28:02,000Dr. Strange, Dr. Strange.64400:28:02,000 --> 00:28:02,720Yeah, that's her mother.64500:28:02,720 --> 00:28:02,960Yeah.64600:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,920So that's her Maria.64700:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,160Maria Rambeau is Captain Marvel in a separate universe.64800:28:06,160 --> 00:28:06,480Yeah.64900:28:06,480 --> 00:28:06,800Yeah.65000:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,920So like I just I'm excited for her to get her time as well.65100:28:11,280 --> 00:28:12,640It's I think it's going to be exciting.65200:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,400So I am excited for this movie.65300:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040So the thing that I'm most excited about with this movie is the65400:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,080the kind of the relationships between these three characters.65500:28:20,640 --> 00:28:26,240On one hand, you have Carol Danvers, who her relationship to Earth has not really65600:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,480been the same since the 90s when she left.65700:28:28,480 --> 00:28:29,120Right.65800:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,160She was from Earth.65900:28:30,160 --> 00:28:33,280But then the moment she got these powers, she essentially has been66000:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,680shipping around from planet to planet, helping wherever she can66100:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,560with not really a moment to breathe in between that and in game.66200:28:40,560 --> 00:28:45,280And even after that sense, then you have Monica Rambeau, who, of course,66300:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,760was very close to Carol when she was still on Earth.66400:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,240But since Carol left and it's shown in one division that Monica is very jaded66500:28:52,240 --> 00:28:53,120towards Carol.66600:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,880She thinks that she abandoned her mother because Maria eventually passes away.66700:28:56,880 --> 00:28:58,080And where was Carol?66800:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,520Carol, that's her best friend.66900:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,600That was, you know, her basically her surrogate mother or like her surrogate aunt,67000:29:03,600 --> 00:29:04,800whatever you want to call her.67100:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,240Carol met so much to Monica and Carol just left and never came back.67200:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,640And Monica is clearly upset with that.67300:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240Again, it shows in one division.67400:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,200We're going to have some some dealings with that for sure.67500:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,240Absolutely.67600:29:16,240 --> 00:29:20,800Then you have Kamala Khan, who reveres Captain Marvel so much like she thinks67700:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,720she is just beyond everything.67800:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,240Like she's a she's a mega fan.67900:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,080She's a fanatic of Captain Marvel.68000:29:26,080 --> 00:29:31,920And what happens when you meet your your your hero sometimes, Aaron, you get let down.68100:29:32,800 --> 00:29:36,320Yeah, I mean, you're going to have and that's the thing is you have this almost68200:29:36,320 --> 00:29:43,760almost like I want to say, like no no Irish, like dark personality that like again,68300:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960she is a hero for so many reasons.68400:29:46,960 --> 00:29:53,040But Captain Marvel has a chip on her shoulder, you know, and she's and I think smile.68500:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,520Yeah.68600:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,160All of that is all of the weight that she's been bearing with her powers and what she's68700:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,400been responsible for out in the universe is going to show up in this.68800:30:02,400 --> 00:30:08,080And she is going to have to realize that she does have a little bit of a responsibility68900:30:08,080 --> 00:30:14,160for the Earth and her and her friends and family and what she is and who she represents69000:30:14,160 --> 00:30:15,200or what she represents.69100:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,840So there's going to be again, there's going to be what they say, you know,69200:30:17,840 --> 00:30:23,360some comeuppance when it comes to how she is received by these two counterparts.69300:30:23,360 --> 00:30:24,880Yeah, I mean, we've all been there, right?69400:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,600We've all been lost in the sauce when it comes to life.69500:30:27,600 --> 00:30:28,560Things take precedence.69600:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,840We have priorities in our heads.69700:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,840And right now, Earth is such a small priority to Carol.69800:30:34,560 --> 00:30:36,880I mean, since but she needs to ground her.69900:30:36,880 --> 00:30:38,640She needs to be grounded in that humanity.70000:30:38,640 --> 00:30:43,520And I think that's going to be a huge pivotal portion of this story is that she has lost70100:30:43,520 --> 00:30:48,080her her her kind of like like like Dr. Manhattan.70200:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,680Yeah, like his his like his tether to Earth and to humanity is gone.70300:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,080And the only thing that's holding him there is still expect her.70400:30:54,080 --> 00:30:58,400And the moment that she eventually leaves, he's like, well, I'm going to Mars, bitch.70500:30:58,400 --> 00:30:58,960I'm out of here.70600:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,440I'm done. So yeah, it's going to be very interesting.70700:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,520I'm very excited for the Marvels.70800:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,880I'm glad that we're only getting is it two movies this year or three?70900:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,720We've got Guardians of the Galaxy, volume three.71000:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,240We've got the Marvels.71100:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,480And then is there anything else this year?71200:31:13,200 --> 00:31:14,560I don't think anything else.71300:31:14,560 --> 00:31:15,120No, I don't think so.71400:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,280I don't think there's any other movies, which is great.71500:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,240I'm very happy with that because yeah, because there's only three because we had71600:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480Ant-Man and the Wasp quantum media earlier this year.71700:31:22,480 --> 00:31:24,240So yeah, I think it's only three.71800:31:24,240 --> 00:31:25,120I'm very excited.71900:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,720So that'll do it for our News and Notes.72000:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,000Once again, thank you to what not for sponsoring that News and Notes segment.72100:31:30,000 --> 00:31:30,880Truly appreciate it.72200:31:30,880 --> 00:31:33,120Check out the show notes for that fifteen dollars.72300:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,120We're going to go and get into our review of Renfield before we do, though.72400:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,200We're going to take a quick break and we will be right back.72500:31:39,200 --> 00:31:43,760Hey there, I'm Chris from the Geek Peek podcast here with my two co-hosts, Trent.72600:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,240What up?72700:31:44,880 --> 00:31:45,760And Brandon.72800:31:45,760 --> 00:31:50,640Yo, yo, here at the Geek Peek, we strive to provide you the best content from all across72900:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,160the pop culture multiverse.73000:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,200Think of us as your content concierge seeking out all the best movies, TV,73100:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,840games and music to save your valuable 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snap.75700:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,720Okay.75800:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,640Oh, that sounds familiar.75900:33:44,640 --> 00:33:45,120Yeah, what?76000:33:49,200 --> 00:33:53,120Renfield, bringing innocent victims.76100:33:53,120 --> 00:33:58,960I want a handful of nuns, a busload of cheerleaders.76200:34:00,000 --> 00:34:01,520And I just want a normal life again.76300:34:01,520 --> 00:34:23,200That this modern world is a dangerous place.76400:34:23,200 --> 00:34:23,840Thank you.76500:34:23,840 --> 00:34:24,880You saved my life.76600:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,920Did I watch you cut a guy with a decorative serving platter?76700:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,720It's all in the wrist.76800:34:28,720 --> 00:34:29,520Let me explain.76900:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,760My boss gave me this power.77000:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,320In return, I tend to his needs, including care, feeding.77100:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,760You bring in people to eat.77200:34:43,120 --> 00:34:45,680You're like the guy that gets the villains postmates.77300:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,240But if you were to stop focusing on his needs, what would happen?77400:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,960He won't grow to full power.77500:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,080Exactly.77600:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,520He won't grow to full power.77700:34:53,520 --> 00:34:54,400What?77800:34:54,400 --> 00:34:55,520That's so weird.77900:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,040Why would you frame him as a villain?78000:34:57,040 --> 00:34:59,200That's so weird. Why would you phrase it like that?78100:34:59,200 --> 00:34:59,680But yes.78200:35:01,360 --> 00:35:01,920Hi.78300:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,040Are you here for the meeting?78400:35:03,040 --> 00:35:04,000Well, come on.78500:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,640No!78600:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,140No!78700:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,240Some call me the Dark One.78800:35:08,240 --> 00:35:10,560Others, the Lord of Death.78900:35:10,560 --> 00:35:17,200To most, I am Barak Yuna.79000:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,640OK, obviously we're dealing with a little bit more than just narcissism here.79100:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,600Now, let's eat.79200:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120All righty, here we are talking about Renfield Aaron.79300:35:31,120 --> 00:35:32,160Spoilers ahead.79400:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,040If you have not seen this brand new comedy, horror action, whatever this is,79500:35:37,040 --> 00:35:38,480please take a second.79600:35:38,480 --> 00:35:38,960Pause this.79700:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,800Yeah, go go watch the film and then come back.79800:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,360Wow, this is this is definitely this is an interesting movie.79900:35:47,360 --> 00:35:48,880And Aaron, we have not talked about this at all.80000:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560We've pretty much saved everything until we've gotten to this review here.80100:35:52,560 --> 00:35:53,680You actually saw it yesterday.80200:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,960I saw it on Thursday night.80300:35:55,520 --> 00:35:57,360Initial thoughts, initial thoughts on Renfield.80400:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,480It was long.80500:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,320OK, all right.80600:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,600So you thought it was actually really long.80700:36:05,600 --> 00:36:06,080Interesting.80800:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,720OK, so it just felt long to you or?80900:36:08,720 --> 00:36:10,000It felt long to me.81000:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,720OK, you kind of dragged along a little bit.81100:36:12,720 --> 00:36:16,880I just think that there was like there were relationships that didn't need to be in it.81200:36:16,880 --> 00:36:17,360OK.81300:36:17,360 --> 00:36:21,680And those relationships trying to give give weight to some of the antics81400:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920and some of the villains.81500:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,400Just it was to me, it really wasn't necessary.81600:36:26,400 --> 00:36:27,040So interesting.81700:36:27,040 --> 00:36:30,080Are you think are you talking about Awkwafina and Nicholas Holt?81800:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,840Yes.81900:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,680OK, because this movie is only 93 minutes long.82000:36:33,680 --> 00:36:34,480It's only an hour and a half.82100:36:34,480 --> 00:36:35,760It's not really it's actually.82200:36:35,760 --> 00:36:36,560Is it really?82300:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,560Yeah, it's about as long as most horror films.82400:36:38,560 --> 00:36:39,200Oh, my God.82500:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,480That felt like, oh, my God, I was I'm not going to lie.82600:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080OK, I do.82700:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,880I fell asleep.82800:36:45,600 --> 00:36:46,000You did.82900:36:46,000 --> 00:36:46,320Wow.83000:36:46,320 --> 00:36:46,960Yeah.83100:36:46,960 --> 00:36:47,600Yeah.83200:36:47,600 --> 00:36:48,400How was your theater?83300:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,080Was it was it packed or not really?83400:36:50,080 --> 00:36:50,880No, there's OK.83500:36:50,880 --> 00:36:51,840Six people in it.83600:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,440We're going to talk about that here.83700:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,400Mine was actually not like completely empty.83800:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,400There was about 20 people in my in my showing,83900:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,560but it was notoriously bomb worthy for Thursday.84000:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560It only made nine hundred thousand dollars on Thursday.84100:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,880Oh, not great.84200:37:06,880 --> 00:37:08,240But not not good.84300:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,080But my initial thoughts is that I had fun with it.84400:37:12,080 --> 00:37:16,320I think it gave me kind of exactly what I wanted from this movie in a certain aspect.84500:37:16,320 --> 00:37:21,520There are issues, but this movie, I think almost from the opening scene,84600:37:21,520 --> 00:37:24,000showed me that it did not take itself seriously.84700:37:24,000 --> 00:37:25,680Therefore, I should either.84800:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,000Right.84900:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,560Like it is this is a this is a really fun just like we're in the spring,85000:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,840but this kind of like feels like kind of like a fun summer movie that you just kind of85100:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,080will turn on when it's on streaming or something that you put on while you're cleaning.85200:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,120I know this is not a good endorsement for going to see the theater, everybody,85300:37:41,120 --> 00:37:43,200but it is like I had a good time with it.85400:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,320I will say that it's it is a bipolar film.85500:37:46,320 --> 00:37:46,800Yes.85600:37:46,800 --> 00:37:47,120Yeah.85700:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,200It's there were moments where I was like, what?85800:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,600And there's moments where I literally was asleep.85900:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,760You know, were you getting laughs in your theater?86000:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,440Were people laughing at the jokes?86100:37:55,440 --> 00:37:56,800I laughed at some of them.86200:37:56,800 --> 00:37:57,440Yeah, I did, too.86300:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,520That's why I was curious because my crowd was actually kind of animated at certain parts.86400:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,400Like they were laughing, they were gasping, and there's like there's only 20 people.86500:38:04,400 --> 00:38:09,440But like, yeah, it was kind of like it was kind of a refreshing movie going experience86600:38:09,440 --> 00:38:11,520with all these people who are like kind of into it.86700:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,120And I thought it was really fun.86800:38:13,120 --> 00:38:17,200OK, so I'm going to mention I'm going to talk about something like that in a few minutes86900:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,640because and I'll try and remember, I'll probably forget, but I won't.87000:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,560But let's go into the summary real quick.87100:38:22,560 --> 00:38:22,960All right.87200:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120So Renfield, should I do it?87300:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,000Can you do it in like a vampiric voice?87400:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,200Like a oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.87500:38:29,200 --> 00:38:30,880Transylvanian voice.87600:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,280You got to add in like some Transylvania music in the background.87700:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,480Yeah, some bad in the background.87800:38:36,480 --> 00:38:36,980Right.87900:38:37,840 --> 00:38:38,400Here we go.88000:38:38,400 --> 00:38:46,000Renfield, the tortured aide to his narcissistic boss, Dracula, is forced to procure his master's88100:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,000prey and do is every bidding.88200:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,800However, after centuries of servitude, he's ready to see if there's a life outside the shadow88300:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,320of the Prince of Darkness.88400:39:00,320 --> 00:39:03,120Aaron just tried to give an evil laugh and just kind of right in the throat.88500:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,640Wow.88600:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,120Yeah.88700:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,640I'm probably talking like this for the rest of the show.88800:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,840So here's something interesting, Aaron, is that the screenplay was actually co-written88900:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,360by Robert Kirkman, right?89000:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,080Like, right.89100:39:14,080 --> 00:39:14,320Yeah.89200:39:14,320 --> 00:39:14,480Why?89300:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,080I saw that at the end.89400:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,400Why?89500:39:16,400 --> 00:39:16,720Yeah.89600:39:16,720 --> 00:39:17,440Watching the credits.89700:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,640Did you see Robert Kirkman as well?89800:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,440Robert Kirkman.89900:39:19,440 --> 00:39:23,440I was like, I was like looking around like anybody else see that?90000:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,680No.90100:39:23,680 --> 00:39:24,160Yeah.90200:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,120Does anyone else care?90300:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,600It's probably invincible guys walking dead.90400:39:27,600 --> 00:39:28,720That's going on here.90500:39:28,720 --> 00:39:31,120But also Ryan Ridley as well, who was a writer on Rick and Morty.90600:39:31,120 --> 00:39:34,720Rick and Morty writers is like the new community college.90700:39:34,720 --> 00:39:39,760Like these writers for Rick and Morty, they do two years and they're off doing their real job.90800:39:39,760 --> 00:39:40,720Like all of them.90900:39:40,720 --> 00:39:44,320You've got them all over the internship as a writer at Rick and Morty.91000:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,440Seriously, you get hired at like the Washington Post.91100:39:47,440 --> 00:39:47,920Exactly.91200:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,000Like they literally graduate from Rick and Morty to whatever their actual aspirations are.91300:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,520But the movie, the screenplay itself is very linear.91400:39:55,520 --> 00:40:01,200It's very simple, toxic relationships, how to deal with them, how to get out of them,91500:40:01,200 --> 00:40:02,160how to be okay.91600:40:02,160 --> 00:40:03,040Enough.91700:40:03,040 --> 00:40:09,280Yeah, like I think it's worth saying that and we'll get into the cast here that Nicholas91800:40:09,280 --> 00:40:16,640Holt as Renfield plays a very like this is a very low hanging comparison, but like I zombie,91900:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680kind of pathetic.92000:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,640You mean warm bodies?92100:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,120Maybe it was warm bodies.92200:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,360Yeah, just the zombie that's alive kind of.92300:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,560That's what I was going to say.92400:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,720Like Nicholas, like this to me, this movie was a lot like it was almost a spiritual sequel.92500:40:30,720 --> 00:40:31,600A spiritual sequel.92600:40:31,600 --> 00:40:32,000Thank you.92700:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,360Yes, to warm bodies.92800:40:33,360 --> 00:40:37,840And I'm just like, like I enjoyed that one more than this one.92900:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,480Sure.93000:40:38,480 --> 00:40:39,120Okay.93100:40:39,120 --> 00:40:45,040Yeah, it just, it kind of felt like Renfield got over his toxic relationship with Count93200:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,640Dracula because he had to.93300:40:46,640 --> 00:40:50,080I don't think he really made the progressive steps that he really needed to, to eventually93400:40:50,080 --> 00:40:53,440get out of relationships like that, like completely cutting someone off the way you're supposed93500:40:53,440 --> 00:40:54,640to in those relationships.93600:40:54,640 --> 00:40:59,600We've all been in those relationships where we are being taken advantage of, where the93700:40:59,600 --> 00:41:03,120relationship is not benefiting us at all. It's only benefiting the person.93800:41:03,920 --> 00:41:05,280Why are you clearing your throat over there?93900:41:06,400 --> 00:41:07,680What are you implying, Aaron?94000:41:09,360 --> 00:41:10,400I don't have a soundboard.94100:41:13,040 --> 00:41:13,600Oh man.94200:41:13,600 --> 00:41:13,840Okay.94300:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,400If you want to say, is that going to cure our relationship?94400:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,720I'm kidding.94500:41:16,720 --> 00:41:20,000I gave you one for like an episode and a half.94600:41:20,000 --> 00:41:20,800What else do you want?94700:41:22,560 --> 00:41:27,600But, you know, that being said, clearly Nicholas Cage is far and away the best part of this94800:41:27,600 --> 00:41:33,280movie, whatever Nick Cage is generally selling, I'm buying and he each use up every single94900:41:33,280 --> 00:41:35,360scene he's in. He's the best part of this movie. Do you agree?95000:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,560Yes. And I'm going to give Ben Schwartz an easy second place to that.95100:41:41,120 --> 00:41:45,360Yeah. He's, it's John Ralphio meets like Scarface.95200:41:48,720 --> 00:41:54,080Like Ben Schwartz is literally, he's a walking embodiment of John Ralphio.95300:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,720Yeah.95400:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,680And he plays it so well.95500:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,400I love it.95600:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,240He's the doofus, the lovable doofus.95700:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,360You know, it's like he threw some cocaine at the cops.95800:42:04,480 --> 00:42:06,960Okay. Actually that was the real scene whenever.95900:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,640So they had the traffic stop with Awkwafina and Chris is the co-worker for.96000:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,080Adrian Martinez.96100:42:14,080 --> 00:42:14,400Yeah.96200:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,200Yeah. And all of a sudden you see Ben Schwartz.96300:42:17,200 --> 00:42:21,920Anytime you see a movie in 2023 where cars have neon underneath their car,96400:42:21,920 --> 00:42:27,200that's a so a 2005 like Fast and Furious type of aesthetic. It's like they're not really,96500:42:27,200 --> 00:42:32,640it's like black, it's black SUVs and orange chargers with neon lights underneath their car.96600:42:32,640 --> 00:42:36,880I immediately am like, they didn't even try. They are going straight to the well when it96700:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,880comes to cliches of gangsters. Right?96800:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,920Yeah. Honestly, like this was like a comic book, literally like a comic book turned into a movie96900:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,560because it was so stupid. Because like, if you looked at the side of the car,97000:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,880did you look at the vinyl wrap that was on the car?97100:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,600No, I did not.97200:42:49,600 --> 00:42:57,280It was a lion snorting a line of cocaine. Like, it's like a racing stripe that turns into a powder97300:42:57,280 --> 00:43:01,360like dots. And then it's the lion is snorting it. Like that shit was funny.97400:43:01,360 --> 00:43:06,960Yeah. That aligns. Right. Like that tracks. And even at one point you have.97500:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080I have a prescription.97600:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,400Yeah. Again, the best part about this movie, everyone, if you're listening,97700:43:14,400 --> 00:43:20,640before you watch the movie, we will say that the actors are doing all that they can.97800:43:20,640 --> 00:43:25,680I think everyone outside of Aquafina for me really like makes this worth it, even down to97900:43:25,680 --> 00:43:29,440some of the really small supporting characters. Like again, I keep saying it, but we're going to98000:43:29,440 --> 00:43:33,600get into the cast here in a moment. Mark, the support group leader, he is surprisingly very98100:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,240refreshing in this. Yes. Yes. Mark and Bob.98200:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,080Yeah. And Bob as well. Yeah.98300:43:38,640 --> 00:43:44,240So director Chris McKay, director of seasons three through five of Robot Chicken and the Lego98400:43:44,240 --> 00:43:47,680Batman movie, which I don't know if you've seen Chris is pretty good. Yeah, it's awesome.98500:43:47,680 --> 00:43:52,560McKay also wrote the recent Dungeons and Dragons honor among thieves, which has been doing98600:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,320surprisingly well in theaters. Also, you remember before the year we were talking about98700:43:56,320 --> 00:44:00,960honor among thieves is like, why are they doing this? This looks terrible. What's going on?98800:44:00,960 --> 00:44:06,240And then all of a sudden out of nowhere, like we never even thought that it could do this is that98900:44:06,240 --> 00:44:10,960it's like it's kind of the surprise hit of the year. It's like this and Megan are the two movies99000:44:10,960 --> 00:44:14,560that we were like kind of completely writing off and now they're doing extremely well.99100:44:14,560 --> 00:44:18,400And I've seen neither of those. So Megan's good. I want to see. I'm going to eventually99200:44:18,400 --> 00:44:23,360see honor among thieves. But yeah, Megan is good. I would recommend it. So Chris McKay claimed that99300:44:23,360 --> 00:44:31,040this film is a direct sequel to Dracula in 1931. Yeah. Yeah. Which is funny because again, this99400:44:31,040 --> 00:44:37,200movie opens up into like a straight up like black and white. I'm not open. It has like a like a mini99500:44:37,200 --> 00:44:42,480opening and then it has its true opening where it's kind of like it's delve into its own history,99600:44:42,480 --> 00:44:48,880where it's like this black and white real like footage of Renfield and Dracula kind of through99700:44:48,880 --> 00:44:55,680the ages. It's pretty, it's pretty interesting the way that necessary. Funny. But like a funny bit.99800:44:55,680 --> 00:45:01,360It was. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was a bit. Yeah. No. And I think those were actually scenes from that99900:45:01,360 --> 00:45:08,000movie from the 1931 Dracula. So they just basically CGI. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you want me to do the100000:45:08,000 --> 00:45:11,440cast or do you want to go and get into the cast? We've already talked about quite a few of these100100:45:11,440 --> 00:45:16,960majority of just for the layman. Yeah. All right. So obviously Nicholas Cage is Count Dracula. He100200:45:16,960 --> 00:45:24,320and he did amazing. Nicholas Holt as R.M. Renfield, Robert Montague, Renfield, Awkwafina as Officer100300:45:24,320 --> 00:45:34,240Rebecca Quincy, Ben Schwartz as Tedward, Tedward, Choro Agdachalu as Bella Francesca, Adrian100400:45:34,240 --> 00:45:39,040Martinez as Chris, Officer Quincy's coworker and Brandon Scott Jones as Mark, who is the support100500:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,760group leader. An enormous fan of Dracula in the original source material, Nick Cage prepared for100600:45:43,760 --> 00:45:49,040this role by observing the distinctive ways Dracula was portrayed on screen by Bella Lugosi,100700:45:49,040 --> 00:45:55,920Frank Langalla. So Bella Lugosi was 1931's Dracula, Frank Langalla, 1979's John Bradham's Dracula,100800:45:55,920 --> 00:46:00,400excuse me. And then Gary Oldman from 92's Bram Stoker's Dracula, which everybody hails as, you100900:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,480know, the ultimate. Cage also mentioned an American werewolf in London from 1981, The Ring in 98 and101000:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,800Malignant, which we all have seen in 2021 as inspirations for this role. So Nick Cage being101100:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,280the the the just straight up weirdo and amazing man that he is really chose the greatest source101200:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,680materials. And I'll say it, I loved it, but I know it wasn't well received. But Dracula Untold was101300:46:27,680 --> 00:46:33,520another, in my opinion, a great Dracula movie. If you've seen it, Chris, let me know. I actually101400:46:33,520 --> 00:46:41,360have not seen it now. I actually. So Dracula Untold was kind of the origin of Dracula, but not saying101500:46:41,360 --> 00:46:48,480that he was the original vampire. Sure. But but a very cool movie. And yeah, I mean, so like but he101600:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,960didn't include that as one of his source materials. I thought that was kind of interesting. Have you101700:46:52,960 --> 00:46:59,840seen Vampire's Kiss from 1988? No. Have you ever seen Vampire's Vampire in Brooklyn? No, I have not.101800:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,320But the reason why I asked about Vampire's Kiss is because see, there's another divert right there101900:47:04,320 --> 00:47:09,520and just try to do everybody. Do you see that everybody listening? Guilty. Guilty as charged.102000:47:09,520 --> 00:47:16,080Yeah, got me. Vampire's Kiss is a movie from 88 that was that stars Nicolas Cage, and he essentially102100:47:16,080 --> 00:47:21,600believes that he is turning into a vampire. And it's really interesting because it was kind of it's102200:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,320one of those movies that like it's kind of like a dark comedy, like there's horror elements to it,102300:47:26,320 --> 00:47:31,520but it's also mostly a comedy. It's gained quite a cult following here recently because it was102400:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,080completely trashed back in the day. Like people were not taking it seriously. But as most things102500:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,720with Nicolas Cage, it has gained a cult following as time has gone on and have kind of viewed it102600:47:40,720 --> 00:47:46,800in a different lens because it is Nick Cage turned up to 11. You've probably even seen a lot of memes102700:47:46,800 --> 00:47:51,280and gifs from that movie and didn't even realize it. Like there's one where he like lowers his head102800:47:51,280 --> 00:47:56,560and points to the sky in a desk chair. That's Nicolas Cage in Vampire's Kiss. Oh, interesting.102900:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,200Every other secretary who's been here has been here longer than you, Elva.103000:48:01,200 --> 00:48:06,720Everyone. And even if there was someone here who was here just one day longer than you,103100:48:07,200 --> 00:48:12,160I still wouldn't ask that person to partake in such a miserable job as long as you were around.103200:48:13,520 --> 00:48:21,520That's right, Elva. It's a horrible, horrible job sifting through old contract after old contract.103300:48:22,800 --> 00:48:28,960I couldn't think of a more horrible job if I wanted to. And you have to do it. You have to,103400:48:28,960 --> 00:48:36,320you have to or I'll fire you. Do you understand? Do you? I'll tell you, the thing that I really103500:48:36,320 --> 00:48:42,720love about Nick Cage's interpretation of Dracula in this movie, again, while extremely campy and103600:48:42,720 --> 00:48:49,200while very, very like turned up to 11, his movement and the way that like his body acting103700:48:49,200 --> 00:48:54,160is very, very good. I think that adds a lot to it. And you went over some of the inspirations103800:48:54,160 --> 00:48:58,880of like the ring or Malignant. Those movies are very, very kind of like the central idea of them is103900:48:58,880 --> 00:49:03,200kind of like a horrific kind of movement. Like think of the girl in the ring that is like her104000:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,280leg that comes over her shoulder as she's climbing out of the TV, like that kind of thing. With this104100:49:07,280 --> 00:49:12,240movie, you have a lot of like the way Nick Cage when he's approaching someone, he always walks up104200:49:12,240 --> 00:49:16,480really slowly. But the things he does with his hands and the way he turns his shoulders and the104300:49:16,480 --> 00:49:21,840way he moves around you in circles is almost like he's stalking you. They're very predator to prey.104400:49:21,840 --> 00:49:27,360Yes, absolutely. And everyone knows the age old like Dracula can't go anywhere without being104500:49:27,360 --> 00:49:32,560invited. They even talk about that. Like he has to you have to physically invite him to go to go to104600:49:32,560 --> 00:49:39,120places. And I think what this movie does is it gives Nicolas Cage the charisma for people to like104700:49:39,120 --> 00:49:46,240almost weirdly inherently trust him. Yeah, but they shouldn't because he doesn't he doesn't hide his104800:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,360extremely sharp teeth in this movie or his pale skin or his giant top hat and cape. Like he is104900:49:51,360 --> 00:49:58,880very, very much like the prototypical vampire. But like he preys on the fact that we are that humans105000:49:58,880 --> 00:50:05,680are idiots. Yes. And that we do everything to like to like we're we're pleasers. OK, and we would105100:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,440rather die than like then judge someone to the point where we know that they're a danger to us.105200:50:11,440 --> 00:50:16,240But we're like, yeah, we don't want to be rude. Was the Renfields, you know, welcome, come in105300:50:16,240 --> 00:50:21,520mad. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, there was. And so like that allowed that was an invitation105400:50:21,520 --> 00:50:26,160because he put it out there. And then and then the group leader who's just like, oh, come on into105500:50:26,160 --> 00:50:30,800the group. You know, that I love those subtle, subtle ways that they included the lore into the105600:50:30,800 --> 00:50:35,920screenplay. Exactly, exactly. So there I was going to say because like there's a couple of movies105700:50:35,920 --> 00:50:40,880that are just really fucking terrible that are funny, though, because of how terrible they are.105800:50:40,880 --> 00:50:45,920But Jim Carrey did a vampire movie quite a few years ago called Once Bitten. And it's105900:50:45,920 --> 00:50:52,880actually one of my favorite vampire movies ever. And it's basically he is trying to get laid.106000:50:53,440 --> 00:50:58,320And and he's basically he's like he's like a teenage guy. You know, he's trying to get laid106100:50:58,320 --> 00:51:04,560and he ends up like dating semi kind of dating this vampire and she bites him once, but she has106200:51:04,560 --> 00:51:08,800to bite him like one more time before like some like full moon or something before he becomes106300:51:08,800 --> 00:51:16,480like a full vampire. And so it's him like going through the process, but still trying to like106400:51:16,480 --> 00:51:20,320maintain being like human, like having to maintain his humanity, but also trying to like get his106500:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,600girlfriend back. So it's like one of those teenage like dating, like angsty, but like 80s,106600:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,320like funny comedies. Yeah. Nineteen five. I'm looking at right now. Yeah. That's another one.106700:51:30,320 --> 00:51:35,280And so I highly recommend that one if you like just funny comedy like vampire films. Another one106800:51:35,280 --> 00:51:39,840is Vampire in Brooklyn, which is Eddie Murphy is Dracula. OK, yeah.106900:51:41,200 --> 00:51:46,640So vampires are such an easy like you can use and Robert Kirkwood is known for this. A lot of107000:51:46,640 --> 00:51:51,440times what he does is he tells stories through vehicles of a not a cliche. What's the word I'm107100:51:51,440 --> 00:51:57,680looking for? Like The Walking Dead is a zombie story. But in reality, what makes The Walking107200:51:57,680 --> 00:52:02,960Dead scary is not the zombies. It's the people. Right. Yeah. Invincible is a superhero story,107300:52:02,960 --> 00:52:08,000but it's a story about relationships. It's a story about parents. They're metaphorical.107400:52:08,000 --> 00:52:13,360Yeah. A lot of he uses like stereotypes, I guess, as a way of putting it as a vehicle. And this is107500:52:13,360 --> 00:52:19,920a vampire story. Yes. But it's more about codependency and toxic, toxic relationships107600:52:19,920 --> 00:52:25,120more than anything else. But I think that's also it's like, you know, what do you call it? So107700:52:25,120 --> 00:52:31,360Dracula also. So Nick Cage's character is also kind of I can't think of that. I'm having trouble107800:52:31,360 --> 00:52:36,560thinking of the word, but he's almost I'm not sure what the word is, but he's he has his own like107900:52:36,560 --> 00:52:42,240these these blinders on. He almost has this like filter over his eyes where he doesn't see himself108000:52:42,240 --> 00:52:48,640as the problem. He's a narcissist. Yeah. Yeah. He's a narcissist, but he also has this like the108100:52:48,640 --> 00:52:54,320the lenses that he's looking at the world and that he's looking at his relationship is is more than108200:52:54,320 --> 00:52:59,520just narcissism because he's blinded. I mean, he is blinded by his narcissism. Yes. But there's108300:52:59,520 --> 00:53:04,720like more to it than that. But I just I think that when they're talking about what you said earlier108400:53:04,720 --> 00:53:09,280when we first started talking about this and how they didn't really address his his healing, his108500:53:09,280 --> 00:53:14,400arc as far as character development, I mean, Renfield, I appreciate that they made the movie108600:53:14,400 --> 00:53:22,240about toxic relationships and it being a hindrance on humanity. But I also would have liked them to108700:53:22,240 --> 00:53:29,280maybe do do a little bit more with, yes, his kind of healing because they have the moment where108800:53:29,280 --> 00:53:34,640they're in the apartment together. But the next time that we see Dracula and Renfield together108900:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,000is at the end when they're fighting each other. And I guess that's kind of his moment to kind of109000:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,880overcome all this. But it all felt felt more like he was trying to save Aquafina and less about him109100:53:42,880 --> 00:53:48,320trying to overcome this relationship and finally get out from underneath Dracula. Exactly. So to109200:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,800me, it felt like he was going from one relationship of codependency to almost another. Yeah. And109300:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,840that's what happens in relationships is that exactly these people do not get over codependency.109400:53:57,840 --> 00:54:02,720They just shift that codependency onto someone else. Yes. That's not good either. So let's move109500:54:02,720 --> 00:54:06,720on here to the budget. Sixty five million dollars. And I will say this movie obviously didn't cost109600:54:06,720 --> 00:54:10,480very much money. I mean, last week we talked about Super Mario Bros and that cost one hundred million109700:54:10,480 --> 00:54:16,960dollars to make. So, you know, on one hand, I think, yes, thirty of that went to Nicolas Cage.109800:54:16,960 --> 00:54:22,800Right. Exactly. Like there are parts of this movie that look really good. Like when Dracula is healing,109900:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,080I love all that practical stuff with the way he looks at the beginning of the film compared to110000:54:26,080 --> 00:54:32,240what he looks like as he slowly starts to regain some of his powers. But the CGI blood is absolutely110100:54:32,240 --> 00:54:37,680horrific to the point where it's like it almost looks like an anime where like you cut someone's110200:54:37,680 --> 00:54:43,440head off or you rip someone's arm off and it like spews out like a geyser. Like, but nobody's bloody.110300:54:43,440 --> 00:54:48,000But no one's bloody. Yeah. Like even like at one point there's a there's a scene where you have110400:54:48,000 --> 00:54:54,720Aquafina and Renfield basically going up against both the police force of New Orleans and Ted Word110500:54:54,720 --> 00:55:00,800and Bella Francisca's crew, whatever. And you've got people getting their arms ripped off and like110600:55:00,800 --> 00:55:06,880heads blown off and like all these things. And at the end of it, you've got Aquafina and Renfield110700:55:06,880 --> 00:55:12,560who are completely clean. They don't have any blood on them at all. Where he like drop kicks110800:55:12,560 --> 00:55:19,840some dude in half over a railing and like blood is just like and he's like, OK, let's go get coffee.110900:55:19,840 --> 00:55:24,720Yeah. Anyway, we'll get some coffee while we will be game plan. But so in the United and this is what111000:55:24,720 --> 00:55:28,400we're kind of talking about earlier, Aaron, in terms of like I wanted to ask you how big111100:55:28,400 --> 00:55:32,480like the showing was for your for this for this movie in the United States and Canada.111200:55:32,480 --> 00:55:38,080Renfield was projected to only earn about eight to ten million dollars around in around three111300:55:38,080 --> 00:55:42,080thousand three hundred seventy five theaters in its opening weekend. Eight to ten million is not a111400:55:42,080 --> 00:55:46,880lot of money. That's still probably finishing third or fourth at the box office. That's like a very111500:55:46,880 --> 00:55:52,320you know, it's a very modest projection. Right. As of this recording, which is April 15th, Saturday.111600:55:52,320 --> 00:55:57,280So we don't have the complete weekend projection. Renfield has only earned one point four million111700:55:57,280 --> 00:56:01,920dollars at the box office. So in three days, it's only earned a million dollars. That is not great.111800:56:02,720 --> 00:56:07,840Not great. Meanwhile, the Super Mario Bros. leads the pack with one hundred and forty six point111900:56:07,840 --> 00:56:12,160four million dollars in the second weekend. So and it's surpassed around five hundred million112000:56:12,160 --> 00:56:17,120dollars already. So it'll probably be around six hundred and fifty million. So basically what we're112100:56:17,120 --> 00:56:22,800saying is that Super Mario Bros, John Wick four and the exorcist, the exorcist pope or something,112200:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,960whatever that that horror film that it's going up against, these movies are all destroying112300:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,760Renfield right now. That was kind of our internal debate here. This little peek behind the curtain,112400:56:31,760 --> 00:56:36,240little inside baseball for everybody at home. Aaron and I were like, yeah, I mean, we're excited112500:56:36,240 --> 00:56:40,080about this movie, but do we really want to cover on the show? Because who else is excited about112600:56:40,080 --> 00:56:44,080this movie? Are we talking about a movie that no one else is seeing? And the answer is yes,112700:56:44,080 --> 00:56:46,880no one else has seen this movie. So if you're listening this right now and you haven't seen112800:56:46,880 --> 00:56:51,360Renfield, that's OK. I guess you're not alone. Yeah, you're not alone. The majority of people112900:56:51,360 --> 00:56:57,840in the world also have not seen Renfield. Yeah, we're the one percent here. Seriously. So I think113000:56:57,840 --> 00:57:02,960we've covered this movie pretty in depth. I mean, at the end of the day, we have, you know, Renfield113100:57:02,960 --> 00:57:09,120and Awkwafina, who I got to talk about Awkwafina's characters a little. Yeah, let's you talk about it113200:57:09,120 --> 00:57:13,600I think I kind of align with you as well. I didn't I didn't really love this movie. So it was a113300:57:13,600 --> 00:57:20,160completely unnecessary portion of the storyline to have to add in the whole like, well, they think113400:57:20,160 --> 00:57:25,760about the hump. Will they won't they? Well, they will. They won't. They the mob killing her father,113500:57:26,320 --> 00:57:32,000her sister being in the FBI, like they could have done it without so much of this. And it just felt113600:57:32,000 --> 00:57:35,920like it was like they had to give her like an important storyline. I don't know. It just felt113700:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,880so stupid and shoehorned in there and also like it dragged the story. And that's what like really113800:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,640would be to a screeching halt every time you went back to. Yeah. Like you said, her sister,113900:57:45,280 --> 00:57:51,280her dad or anything with Awkwafina at all. I would be like, God, come on. Whenever she is on screen,114000:57:51,280 --> 00:57:56,160she walks around like she has scoliosis. Like, do you ever notice like she's like,114100:57:57,760 --> 00:58:01,920she has like kind of like a humpback a little bit. Yeah. It's like a critique on her. Yeah.114200:58:01,920 --> 00:58:07,360But like Awkwafina is Awkwafina in every movie. That's who she is. Exactly. She's Will Smith.114300:58:07,360 --> 00:58:12,400She's the rock. There are certain people when they go in, when they're in a movie, they Jamie Foxx,114400:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,600like, well, that feels kind of gross right now because Jamie Foxx actually just had a stroke.114500:58:15,600 --> 00:58:19,360I don't know if you heard that, but generally when when these people are in a movie, they are114600:58:19,360 --> 00:58:23,760just playing a version of themselves. Right. So that's Awkwafina in this movie. Yeah. And114700:58:23,760 --> 00:58:29,360that's what was bothering me about it was because I just could not take her seriously. Like I can't114800:58:29,360 --> 00:58:35,360take her serious. I can't take her as a this is not a hit on her being a female actress or anything.114900:58:35,360 --> 00:58:40,720I think that she has moments where she is a very powerful actress. And that's when she is115000:58:41,360 --> 00:58:46,720playing a confident role. Shang-Chi was a perfect example when she got into her own and she was in115100:58:46,720 --> 00:58:50,640that that, you know, the alternate dimension in that in that city, like she was walking around,115200:58:50,640 --> 00:58:54,800she was confident, she was shooting bows and arrows. She was proud of herself. That was awesome. But115300:58:54,800 --> 00:58:58,320then they put her in a role like this, where she is like, I don't know, she just feels like she's115400:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,880like a beat down character. And she just walk around with her like, you know, bad posture. And115500:59:02,880 --> 00:59:08,880she's like trying to be like her aggro character. And to me, it just doesn't fit into what she115600:59:09,600 --> 00:59:17,440could be. Right. And so that's that is my, my, my critique for her character is that I feel like115700:59:17,440 --> 00:59:24,240she could have been a more mature, better, like she could have been the the badass cop. They should115800:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,400have just given her a smaller role. But at this time, when this movie was initially coming out,115900:59:28,400 --> 00:59:33,600I think this was announced and kind of just started to peak and going to production was around COVID.116000:59:33,600 --> 00:59:39,360So Awkwafina was she had just got cast in Shang-Chi. Nora from Queens was very big. So like116100:59:39,360 --> 00:59:43,520Awkwafina was starting to rise and they wanted to give her something to do in this movie. But116200:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,960honestly, they should have just lessened her role and put Nicholas Cage should have been on screen116300:59:46,960 --> 00:59:51,360more. He has a lot to do in this movie, as does Nicholas Holt. But more of those two would have116400:59:51,360 --> 00:59:59,760been fine with me. And then Shura Agdachlu as Bella Francesca, I was just completely like thrown off116500:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,720every time she spoke. I mean, I understand that she has to be like this very overbearing, like116601:00:04,720 --> 01:00:09,920evil woman, but she has like this, I am the mother. Bring them to me. Bring them to me.116701:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,280Can't do that voice very much often. Yeah. But just like she has that deep grumbling voice. And116801:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,520like, to be honest, it would have been kind of cool if we would have found out when they saw each116901:00:21,520 --> 01:00:25,040other that they were like long lost lovers or something. Yeah. Like she was a vampire this117001:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,200whole time as well. Yeah. Yeah. I would have been like, like that's something that I kind of expected117101:00:29,200 --> 01:00:33,280when they first saw each other. Like she had that, they had this like interesting like look that they117201:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,760shared when they first met. So I was like, I was kind of excited about that. And what if Dracula was117301:00:37,760 --> 01:00:42,640the father of Ted? Oh my God, how that would have been fucking awesome. Yeah, that would have been117401:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,160great. Like there was so much that could put us in Hollywood guys. We can come up with good ideas.117501:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,680There were so many good things that could have been done with this. And I just feel like a lot of117601:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,200it fell flat because they were trying to add in that route that like you said, like that, that117701:00:55,200 --> 01:01:01,280Aquafina that will they won't they type situation. So yeah, that's, that's my critique. Yeah. Let's117801:01:01,280 --> 01:01:06,720go and get some fun facts here. So Captain Nemo, Superman and Dracula are three roles that Nicholas117901:01:06,720 --> 01:01:11,040Cage has dreamt about playing since he started his acting career. He actually got to voice Superman118001:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,400and Teen Titans go that goes to the movies in 2018. Obviously he plays Dracula here. We also know118101:01:16,400 --> 01:01:21,280that Nicholas Cage was going to play Superman at one point in the Justice League movie that didn't118201:01:21,280 --> 01:01:26,720end up happening, but that's okay. We have Renfield syndrome, which is also known as clinical118301:01:26,720 --> 01:01:32,000vampirism, a rare psychiatric disorder where an individual has an intense fascination with drinking118401:01:32,000 --> 01:01:36,560blood and believing themselves to be a vampire. This syndrome is of course named after the character118501:01:36,560 --> 01:01:42,240R.M. Renfield from Brandon Stoker's novel Dracula, who consumed live insects to obtain their life118601:01:42,240 --> 01:01:47,360force. We see that in this movie where in order for Renfield to get his powers, he has to consume118701:01:47,360 --> 01:01:51,120life. And instead of consuming a human, which I kind of would have, I thought it would have been118801:01:51,120 --> 01:01:56,080really cool. At one point he just consumed like a bad guy and it just turned him into a super saiyan.118901:01:56,080 --> 01:02:00,800Like he eats these little insects like spiders and ants, and it gives them ultimate power. What119001:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,440if he sucked the blood of a human one time and it just turned him into like as strong, if not119101:02:05,440 --> 01:02:10,560stronger than Dracula? Well, that's what I would have liked to have actually seen. Because I was119201:02:10,560 --> 01:02:15,840thinking about that because he was so much more powerful than those brand new familiars that first119301:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,680of all, I didn't realize that a vampire could create like multiple familiars, but I thought it119401:02:19,680 --> 01:02:23,840would have been really cool if there was like some kind of discovery because there hadn't, there had119501:02:23,840 --> 01:02:28,720never been like a familiar that had lived that long. Or maybe after a certain amount of time,119601:02:28,720 --> 01:02:34,640like he could figure out like he draws his power from Dracula. Maybe he was able to break down119701:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,120some barrier and take more power from him than he was giving him. Like there was so many like119801:02:39,120 --> 01:02:44,240directions that they could have gone that I thought would have been cool other than just him maybe,119901:02:44,240 --> 01:02:49,680I don't know, eating more bugs than the other guys. You know, I thought it was funny when120001:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,720Schwartz, when he, when he like sniffed that centipede and got the power.120101:02:57,200 --> 01:03:02,400Nicholas Holt played Nicolas Cage's son in 2005 as the weatherman. Holt has named Cage an inspiration120201:03:02,400 --> 01:03:07,680for many different roles. Nicholas Holt and Nicolas Cage are inserted into footage from Dracula120301:03:07,680 --> 01:03:15,200in 1931 to serve as flashbacks. We gave him the Kung Fury treatment. William, some snacks.120401:03:15,200 --> 01:03:23,360Would you like an icy carbonated soda? My nipples look like milk duds.120501:03:23,360 --> 01:03:30,560Yes. William Ragsdale. Everybody, that's, those are quotes from Kung Fury. All right.120601:03:33,680 --> 01:03:38,240I'm coming. Who plays the elderly? William Ragsdale who plays the elderly priest is best120701:03:38,240 --> 01:03:44,960known for playing Charlie Brewster in the Fright Night films. Nicholas Cage actually owns two120801:03:44,960 --> 01:03:50,400European castles. He bought one for 10.2 million and the other for 2.3 million. Who knew that120901:03:50,400 --> 01:03:55,920castles were that inexpensive? Right. And also, you know, Nicholas Cage is very notorious for121001:03:55,920 --> 01:04:01,680buying just the weirdest off the wall. Like he has put himself in debt, I think a couple of times,121101:04:01,680 --> 01:04:05,920because he just, I mean, at one point he had the highest graded version of action comics. Number121201:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,840one, I'm wearing a Superman shirt right now. Everybody I'm wearing the, the Fleischer 1930121301:04:09,840 --> 01:04:15,200Superman logo shirt. At one point, Nicholas Cage owned, I think it was a 9.0 CGC action comics.121401:04:15,200 --> 01:04:19,200Number one. And I think he eventually sold it, but yeah, that's the kind of shit that he buys.121501:04:19,200 --> 01:04:25,040Yeah, he sold it to buy a castle. He bought a castle with it. So that'll do it for our review121601:04:25,040 --> 01:04:29,120of Renfield. I think we pretty much got our, our views out there and let's go and give our final121701:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,520thoughts here. And what are your final thoughts on Renfield? I wouldn't watch it again. No? Would you121801:04:33,520 --> 01:04:37,760recommend it? Would you recommend people go out to see it themselves? Not go out and see it. Wait121901:04:37,760 --> 01:04:42,080till it, wait till it's streaming. Yeah. Did you have fun with it though? When you, when you went122001:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,400to go see it? I tell, I'm telling you, I fell, I fell asleep. I did. So there were moments where I122101:04:46,400 --> 01:04:52,240laughed and I enjoyed it. And I, again, I, my, my view has not changed on it since talking to you122201:04:52,240 --> 01:04:56,560because a lot of the stuff that you, it's not like I realize anything is what I'm saying from this122301:04:56,560 --> 01:05:00,080discussion, which sometimes I do. Yeah, that happens sometimes. But all the stuff that we talked122401:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,560about is how I felt in the, in the, in the theater. There were times where I laughed. I fell asleep at122501:05:04,560 --> 01:05:12,720one time. I cried. I didn't cry at all. I wept like a little boy. I wept, but no, like I just, I,122601:05:12,720 --> 01:05:17,120I think that there was a lot of potential. I thought there was a lot of missed opportunities.122701:05:17,120 --> 01:05:23,920I thought there were some very entertaining and fun times. I just wish for more from this movie.122801:05:23,920 --> 01:05:28,880Agreed. Yeah. I kind of feel a very similar way. I think it had the skeleton of a really122901:05:29,680 --> 01:05:34,720interesting idea. I think Robert Kirkman and Ryan Reilly had something really interesting. They,123001:05:34,720 --> 01:05:39,280they picked correctly with Nicholas Cage and Nicholas Holt. I think there's a, some missed123101:05:39,280 --> 01:05:43,440opportunities. We already talked about the Aquafina of it all. Like there you bench sports is great in123201:05:43,440 --> 01:05:47,680this movie. There are, there are elements of a really good movie in this, in this, like not a123301:05:47,680 --> 01:05:52,240great movie, but a really, really good movie. And I just think they missed the mark on a couple places.123401:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,160And we talked about those during this review. So I agree. I think it's something that had we had123501:05:58,160 --> 01:06:02,080literally anything else going on this week, this is fine. This is fine to admit now at the end of123601:06:02,080 --> 01:06:06,640the review, if we had anything else to do this week, we probably wouldn't have covered Renfield.123701:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,760I think it's something that I would have seen eventually, but I probably wouldn't have went123801:06:09,760 --> 01:06:14,720to the theater to see it. But that being said, I had fun with it. I think it is, I think it is a123901:06:14,720 --> 01:06:18,080fun time at the theater. If you're, if you have already seen Super Mario Bros and you don't care124001:06:18,080 --> 01:06:22,720about John Wick, go see Renfield. Honestly, that's my, that's my honest suggestion. I think if you124101:06:22,720 --> 01:06:28,080just want to go see a fun kind of throw away comedy with Nicholas Cage turned up to 11,124201:06:28,080 --> 01:06:33,280go see it. If you're a Nicholas Cage fan, absolutely go see it because I think you will get your money's124301:06:33,280 --> 01:06:38,320worth just from him. Right. So let's go and write this thing out of five David A. Weiner's, which124401:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,280of course David A. Weiner is our director, producer, creator of In Search of Tomorrow,124501:06:43,280 --> 01:06:47,840In Search of Darkness, the documentaries, those five hour long documentaries that we love so much.124601:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,600So Aaron out of five David A. Weiner's, what are you going to give Renfield?124701:06:52,240 --> 01:06:57,760I'm going to give it a 2.5. I feel like here recently, anytime that you have a rating,124801:06:57,760 --> 01:07:03,520I always give it like a 0.5 higher, but I already had 3.0 stuck in my head. So I'm going to,124901:07:03,520 --> 01:07:08,000because I think again, like I just said, I will recommend this movie to Nicholas Cage fans125001:07:08,000 --> 01:07:13,440and people that have not seen Super Mario Bros yet. So I'm going to give it a three. And I think125101:07:13,440 --> 01:07:18,160it's right there. It's like barely recommendable for me. And I, and then we've always said that125201:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,640like three is recommendable. Like that is, that's the cutoff. So yeah, I'm going to give it a three125301:07:22,640 --> 01:07:27,200out of three out of five David A. Weiner's. So that'll do it for our review of Renfield. Let's125401:07:27,200 --> 01:07:31,920go ahead and get into my favorite segment of the show every single week. Aaron's arcade.125501:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,880It's time for Aaron's arcade.125601:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,440Welcome back to Aaron's arcade.125701:07:46,480 --> 01:07:54,720Excuse me. I'm still reading Invincible. Hey everyone. Spoilers. I'm still reading this 130125801:07:54,720 --> 01:08:00,720issue series by Robert Kirkman and I still can't put it down. It's good. I still can't put it down.125901:08:00,720 --> 01:08:06,560Like I am, I'm in it. I, and I've even like at what, like I'm obsessed. I think I'm obsessed.126001:08:06,560 --> 01:08:11,040I might have a problem. I'm so happy that you're doing this too, because this is a good,126101:08:11,040 --> 01:08:14,800I remember when you first started reading this, I was like, whoa, you know, I don't know.126201:08:15,840 --> 01:08:17,760I don't know if I wish you guys could see his face.126301:08:17,760 --> 01:08:22,960Invincible is a tall glass, right? Like it's again, 130 issues of a story and you,126401:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,960yeah, like it reads faster than 130 issues. I think it reads closer to like a hundred issues126501:08:26,960 --> 01:08:33,120because there are some that are like, but I think so. But when you said that, I was like, man,126601:08:33,120 --> 01:08:36,240it's, it's a lot, but I'm so happy that you're enjoying this because if you can get through126701:08:36,240 --> 01:08:40,240Invincible, there's a lot of stories that you can get through. Yeah. That's a benchmark.126801:08:40,240 --> 01:08:45,280I'm excited to see what's next, but I am also like, I made a video about this. I'm excited to126901:08:45,280 --> 01:08:51,840see what's next, but I am also like, man, there's so much going on in this, in this story.127001:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,640You remember what happened in the last issue? Do you remember what issue you're on?127101:08:54,640 --> 01:09:00,560Yes. So right now, Invincible has teamed up with Dinosaurus.127201:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,520Yes. It's so good. Cause Dinosaurus is like a total bad guy up to this point, right?127301:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,840Yeah. Yeah. We've met Throg, the Viltrumites, what are, what are left? I think he said 34,127401:09:11,840 --> 01:09:19,840them are on earth. Now, Alan just came to earth and tried to release a, a, a, was it virus?127501:09:20,720 --> 01:09:27,360A new virus. And, and I guess, uh, what's his name? Mark Invincible. He got, he was exposed to it.127601:09:27,360 --> 01:09:31,680I think that's the last thing I saw was the last frame was him starting to bleed from the ears.127701:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,880Yeah. And so if you're, you haven't met Conquest then yet, right? Right. Oh, no,127801:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,680we're way past Conquest. Conquest is dead. Okay. I was gonna say Conquest, that, that part of the127901:09:41,680 --> 01:09:47,280story is my favorite. Yeah. Conquest, holy shit. And then he came back. Yes. But I do like the,128001:09:47,280 --> 01:09:53,040the Dinosaurus arc is also really good. And, um, I really like what happens with Alan and Mark128101:09:53,040 --> 01:09:57,200going forward as well. Yeah. I'm, I'm curious to see how this, how this occurs. Cause right now,128201:09:57,760 --> 01:10:04,720and then you got, you got Oliver's grown up, man, he got his ass beat by, by Throg. Yep. Jesus.128301:10:04,720 --> 01:10:11,200That was so fucked up, but like there's, there's, there's so, we're spoiling season four of Invincible128401:10:11,200 --> 01:10:14,880right now. There's so much, by the time season four comes out, you'll forget this. Um, there's so much128501:10:14,880 --> 01:10:20,560shit, like there's that one scene where like Throg just puts his hand like through, uh, no, was it128601:10:20,560 --> 01:10:25,520Conquest just put his hand through, through Adam Eve at one point. I'm just like, that just keeps128701:10:25,520 --> 01:10:28,880happening to people. Yeah. It literally keeps happening to you. They're just like, like hand128801:10:28,880 --> 01:10:33,920through the fucking like torso. And they keep living somehow. They keep living. And then, and128901:10:33,920 --> 01:10:39,200then Adam Eve was pregnant, which is crazy. And I know like, you know, I don't know, there's just,129001:10:39,200 --> 01:10:43,920there's so much to it. And I'm like, I, I feel like there's, I, I feel like I'm not far at all129101:10:43,920 --> 01:10:49,040in this story, but like, I also am excited to see what's next. Yeah. But it also doesn't feel like129201:10:49,040 --> 01:10:55,280there's very much left. Oh, trust me. There's a lot left to go, man. Yeah. So am I a terrible person?129301:10:55,280 --> 01:10:59,040Cause I haven't done anything else besides read Invincible. No, I think that's totally fine. Like129401:10:59,040 --> 01:11:01,920that's okay. We talked about a little bit before the show here. I think it's totally, when you get129501:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,520into Invincible, you kind of have you like, you just dive into it. And it is one of those,129601:11:05,520 --> 01:11:10,880it's one of those stories that rewards upon just can like, once that issue ends, you go right into129701:11:10,880 --> 01:11:15,440the next one. Like it's so easy. It's just like saga the same way. Is Invincible done? It's done.129801:11:15,440 --> 01:11:19,840Yeah. They've, they've, they shut it down like 2012, I think is when the last issue came out.129901:11:19,840 --> 01:11:25,040Okay. Okay. That's good to know. Last thing that I want to say real quick is, do you remember how130001:11:25,040 --> 01:11:32,160long ago Megacon was? Like three weeks ago, like three weeks ago, I submitted some stuff to CGC130101:11:32,160 --> 01:11:39,520and they tried to get it back. They tried to deliver it yesterday. Holy crap. CGC, man. That's130201:11:39,520 --> 01:11:43,680awesome. They tried. So you got to go to the post office and pick it up because you got to get a130301:11:43,680 --> 01:11:48,160signature. I have to wait till fucking Monday. Well, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Cause we're recording130401:11:48,160 --> 01:11:53,040this on Saturday, April 15th, everybody. So yeah. Well, that's awesome though. Three weeks. That130501:11:53,040 --> 01:11:57,600turnaround is awesome. I'm so mad. Dude, you got your comics back in three weeks. Go to the post130601:11:57,600 --> 01:12:02,560office. Not a big deal. I'm so it's not, it's in Nashville. It's at the FedEx place. Oh, no130701:12:02,560 --> 01:12:06,720kidding. That does kind of, I can't go get it. Like I know. And that's the thing is like, there are130801:12:06,720 --> 01:12:11,520some amazing things that I just want to look at. And I have to wait two, like three, two and a half130901:12:11,520 --> 01:12:15,360more days now. That's what you have to everyone at home. If you've never gotten to CGC comic,131001:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,040that's what you do to them. You just get it and look at it. Yeah. Display it somewhere.131101:12:19,040 --> 01:12:23,200I'm literally going to just like, I'm going to, I'm just going to look at it real hard.131201:12:23,200 --> 01:12:31,200I'm going to sleep with them in my bed. Man, I'm so excited. So like I'll stay tuned for a lot of131301:12:31,200 --> 01:12:37,200social media. Join the grid because we'll probably talk about it. Yes. I'm so I like I'm so excited,131401:12:37,200 --> 01:12:42,640yet so angry that I didn't get them yesterday that like I want to break something. Don't break131501:12:42,640 --> 01:12:49,040your CGC comics. You're going to have. I won't. OK. Saying that I feel better. Let's talk. Let's131601:12:49,040 --> 01:12:54,800talk about my favorite part of the show. Do you know what that is, Chris? No, what is it?131701:12:54,800 --> 01:13:01,040It's Chris's Corner. It's time for. For this is quarter.131801:13:06,880 --> 01:13:11,440How good was that transition? Oh, man, it was spot on. It's almost like we could finish each other's131901:13:12,320 --> 01:13:17,200semi colons. That's what I was going to say this week for Chris's Corner. We're going to be talking132001:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,600about Arcade Kings number one, and I actually have a co-host for this segment. Arcade Kings132101:13:21,600 --> 01:13:25,520number one is written and illustrated by Dylan Burnett. This is a new prestige comic coming out132201:13:25,520 --> 01:13:31,440from Skybound, and it actually does not come out until May 17th. And so we got to see it a month132301:13:31,440 --> 01:13:36,800early. Thank you, Skybound for giving us an early preview of this book. And this is a story that132401:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,320introduces us to a character named Joe, who is this mysterious new face in Infinity City, who has132501:13:42,320 --> 01:13:47,360suddenly become the hottest new player at Roundhouse Arcade. Anyone can challenge him, but no one can132601:13:47,360 --> 01:13:53,120win. Joe's secret pass is about to catch up to him when his most formidable challenge rolls yet into132701:13:53,120 --> 01:13:59,200town, forcing Joe to combo his powers with his joystick, his fist and is fighting for his family's132801:13:59,200 --> 01:14:05,920legacy. So this comic, I feel like was curated for people like you and I who love just who really132901:14:05,920 --> 01:14:12,000enjoyed the era of arcades. And Dylan Burnett is the artist from the Cosmic Ghost Rider,133001:14:12,000 --> 01:14:16,240destroys the Marvel Universe storyline. And I remember seeing his art and that was like,133101:14:16,240 --> 01:14:20,720man, this is awesome. So when this story, when we eventually got a preview for this, I was like,133201:14:20,720 --> 01:14:26,480yeah, I'm in and really, really enjoyed this first issue. It is again, it's prestige. It's a, I think133301:14:26,480 --> 01:14:32,800it's 45 pages instead of the normal, like 28. So it's a lot of comic 799 when it eventually comes133401:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,880out. So it's a little pricier than normal, but this is worth it. In my opinion, it's awesome.133501:14:36,880 --> 01:14:41,840Really enjoyed very much Scott Pilgrim vibes. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. It's a lot of like about133601:14:41,840 --> 01:14:47,520like there is fighting in this story, but it's like, meet me at the arcades, meet me at that arcade.133701:14:47,520 --> 01:14:51,600And this we're really going to throw down type of deal. Like you're even wearing a street fighter133801:14:51,600 --> 01:14:55,920number two shirt right now. And back in the day, that's how you handled arguments. If you want to133901:14:55,920 --> 01:15:02,480settle a thing, Hey, TMNT, let's do it right now versus Capcom, bitch. Yeah, let's do the Capcom too.134001:15:02,480 --> 01:15:09,280Yeah. Shot shotgun Wolverine, Dr. Doom and Mega Man. Let's do this thing. Right. So arcade kings,134101:15:09,280 --> 01:15:12,400Aaron, I'll let you, I'll hand it off to you if you want to say something, but I really enjoyed134201:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,680it and I highly recommend it. Once again, it comes out May 17th, so go check it out at your134301:15:15,680 --> 01:15:20,720local comic book shop when it comes out. Yeah. So I really enjoyed this one from, from, I remember134401:15:20,720 --> 01:15:25,840seeing the email about this upcoming title a while ago and I'm like, man, yeah, add that to my list.134501:15:25,840 --> 01:15:31,040I'm super excited for it. And I'm glad that I did. And I'm glad that it's going to stay on my list,134601:15:31,040 --> 01:15:39,440even though I've already read it because the art in this is so exciting and like colorful and, and134701:15:40,160 --> 01:15:45,680I want to call it like gritty. Yeah. But it's just, it's, it's, it's dynamic. It's gritty. It's,134801:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,800and it's just, if you like, Animes like kill a kill, if you like Animes where they literally134901:15:50,800 --> 01:15:55,840get into like street fights and it's just insane, like action. If you like fighting games, if you're,135001:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,640if you're a smash brothers fan, if you anything like that, this is the comic for you. And this is135101:16:00,640 --> 01:16:06,240a great way to start because again, two, I think it's two issues in their prestige. So, so again,135201:16:06,240 --> 01:16:11,600longer, basically you're, you're looking at like a two volume. It's like four issues normally. Yeah.135301:16:11,600 --> 01:16:15,520Yeah. Yeah. And so it's not a long read, but it's going to be a fun read. And I think that it's going135401:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,560to, you're going to get a lot of entertainment value out of it. And you're going to like the135501:16:18,560 --> 01:16:22,800details and kind of the references of it. So, and this comic kind of reads very similar, like we135601:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,960were saying earlier with like invincible, like it reads quickly because it's a lot of art. It's not135701:16:26,960 --> 01:16:32,480super wordy. Dylan does a lot with his art. He says a lot with like his act with his panels.135801:16:32,480 --> 01:16:37,440And I think that's really cool. So that's what I was going to say. Pan, like the panels are not your,135901:16:37,440 --> 01:16:42,320your general like same, like six panel pages where you're going to get like, like you're getting like136001:16:42,320 --> 01:16:48,000pages with like 19 panels. And it's just like a combo move, you know, it's so much fun. It's all136101:16:48,000 --> 01:16:52,240very kinetic and just very high energy. It's awesome. So once again, arcade Kings, number one,136201:16:52,240 --> 01:16:56,320go check it out when it eventually comes out in May. And that'll do it for Chris's corner, Aaron,136301:16:56,320 --> 01:17:01,120that'll do it for the oblivion bar episode one 15. We've done it once again. And people at home,136401:17:01,120 --> 01:17:05,840if you're listening right now, let me tell you, we have no idea what we're doing for episode one 16,136501:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,160because as you, if you remember at the end of episode one 14, we were supposed to have136601:17:10,160 --> 01:17:15,920the one and only Kevin Smith on the show. He unfortunately had to reschedule and we're trying136701:17:15,920 --> 01:17:19,840to stay water. We're trying to stay flexible. We're trying to figure out if we can get him on136801:17:19,840 --> 01:17:26,080the show for this next week. If we can, he will be one, he will be episode one 16. If he cannot136901:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,000Aaron and I will find something else to do for episode one 16 and we will keep you up to date.137001:17:30,000 --> 01:17:35,520Once we figure that out. So here's hoping that we can get Kevin on the show. This is no ill will137101:17:35,520 --> 01:17:39,760towards him. Obviously we know he's a very busy man. He's, we actually talk about it. A lot of137201:17:39,760 --> 01:17:44,000our questions that we have for him deal with him just being all over the place all the time.137301:17:44,000 --> 01:17:50,160All the time. He's always doing something. So if we can get him on the show, of course we will,137401:17:50,160 --> 01:17:54,560but we'll let everyone know as soon as we know, but that'll do it for episode one 15, Aaron,137501:17:54,560 --> 01:17:59,280go ahead and go ahead and take us out of here. Okay, honey. Subscribe to our podcast app,137601:18:00,240 --> 01:18:06,400Apple podcast, Amazon music, and I heart radio. 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Thank you, DJ sky back for our grid theme. And thank you fantasy shop138501:18:46,800 --> 01:18:51,120for sponsoring the show. Don't forget to tip your bar in tears, 20% or more. And I'm just going to138601:18:51,120 --> 01:18:56,160plug this real quick. If you're looking for any kind of way to support a good nonprofit, make sure138701:18:56,160 --> 01:19:02,320you check out shred the stress.org. That's my nonprofit. That's a nonprofit to support veterans,138801:19:02,320 --> 01:19:06,800service members and their families. Uh, we're going to have a new, uh, shred the stress commercial138901:19:06,800 --> 01:19:11,840coming out soon just cause we had to update some things on it. But, uh, yeah, if you're looking for139001:19:11,840 --> 01:19:19,280a good one to support, it's a certified 501 C three. Uh, it's your, your, your support is tax139101:19:19,280 --> 01:19:24,640deductible and it just goes, it means the world to the veterans and everybody that, that we help.139201:19:24,640 --> 01:19:29,440So thank you. Yeah. I go support shred the stress. And also Aaron, I didn't mention this earlier. I139301:19:29,440 --> 01:19:35,600just, I just reminded myself happy birthday to the oblivion bar. Third birthday is tomorrow. So yes,139401:19:35,600 --> 01:19:41,680yes. April 16th. So I have it on my calendar. Yep. It's our third birthday, our third birthday.139501:19:41,680 --> 01:19:47,920We'll, we'll post about it tomorrow on Thursday, the third day. Yep. Yeah. So dog years we're 21139601:19:47,920 --> 01:19:52,160or no, is it, is it, we'll be 21 years old tomorrow, right? Dog years. Yep. Every seven139701:19:52,160 --> 01:19:59,520years. Yeah. So happy birthday to us. One, you know, 115 episodes later, uh, 80 episodes of the139801:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,320grid where to keep chugging along, keep it going. We're going to keep on keeping on. That's right.139901:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,720Thank you guys so much for listening to the oblivion bar podcast. We, we really do appreciate140001:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,520it. And we will see you next week for episode one 16.